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"S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Keep the spoiling here until the West Coasters have a chance to see the episode!

Thanks!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Loree 10-02-03 1
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... djandy 10-02-03 2
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... djandy 10-02-03 3
 Key Confessional!!! clemsonbeav 10-02-03 4
   RE: Key Confessional!!! Loree 10-02-03 6
   RE: Key Confessional!!! SurvivorBlows 10-02-03 7
       same thing cqvenus 10-02-03 10
       Ding ding anotherkim 10-02-03 13
           RE: Ding ding clemsonbeav 10-02-03 19
   Not so sure I_AM_HE 10-02-03 56
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... djandy 10-02-03 5
   After running away, Osten sinks hin... SurvivorBlows 10-02-03 14
 Osten cqvenus 10-02-03 8
   RE: Osten Loree 10-02-03 20
       rationalization cqvenus 10-02-03 25
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... clemsonbeav 10-02-03 9
 Man anotherkim 10-02-03 11
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Loree 10-02-03 12
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... volsfan 10-02-03 24
 need to be a team cqvenus 10-02-03 15
   lost hook cqvenus 10-02-03 16
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... djandy 10-02-03 17
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... anotherkim 10-02-03 23
       RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... bebekid 10-02-03 59
           RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... dabo 10-02-03 79
           RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Witless 10-02-03 82
               RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Loree 10-03-03 93
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... djandy 10-02-03 18
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... volsfan 10-02-03 21
       RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Loree 10-02-03 26
   morgans sore losers cqvenus 10-02-03 22
       RE: morgans sore losers volsfan 10-02-03 31
 IC cqvenus 10-02-03 27
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... djandy 10-02-03 28
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... SurvivorBlows 10-02-03 30
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... I_AM_HE 10-02-03 49
 Drake wins IC cqvenus 10-02-03 29
   RE: Drake wins IC Loree 10-02-03 32
       RE: Drake wins IC SurvivorBlows 10-02-03 42
           RE: Drake wins IC Loree 10-02-03 46
               RE: Drake wins IC SurvivorBlows 10-02-03 50
                   RE: Drake wins IC Loree 10-02-03 60
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... ExInterper 10-02-03 33
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Loree 10-02-03 34
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... djandy 10-02-03 35
   Andrew's strategy.... anotherkim 10-02-03 55
       RE: Andrew's strategy.... I_AM_HE 10-02-03 61
           RE: Andrew's strategy.... redbeard103152 10-02-03 77
 Lil voted out djandy 10-02-03 36
   RE: Lil voted out Loree 10-02-03 40
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... ExInterper 10-02-03 37
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... I_AM_HE 10-02-03 41
       Is Drake going to throw a challenge Loree 10-02-03 44
           RE: Is Drake going to throw a chall... ExInterper 10-02-03 45
               RE: Is Drake going to throw a chall... Holiday 10-02-03 81
           RE: Is Drake going to throw a chall... djandy 10-02-03 47
               RE: Is Drake going to throw a chall... stonemik 10-02-03 72
 foreshadowing 101? I_AM_HE 10-02-03 38
 OH MY GOSH! bebekid 10-02-03 39
   RE: OH MY GOSH! queencityfan 10-02-03 64
       RE: OH MY GOSH! stonemik 10-02-03 71
           RE: OH MY GOSH! silentJ 10-02-03 73
               RE: OH MY GOSH! lroy 10-02-03 78
           RE: OH MY GOSH! redbeard103152 10-02-03 75
               RE: OH MY GOSH! Bebo 10-02-03 85
                   RE: OH MY GOSH! redbeard103152 10-03-03 91
       RE: OH MY GOSH! drich61 10-02-03 84
           RE: OH MY GOSH! bebekid 10-02-03 89
       RE: OH MY GOSH! 1derfool 10-02-03 88
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... LozengeofLove 10-02-03 43
   RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Loree 10-02-03 48
       RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... LozengeofLove 10-02-03 54
           RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Solitaire 10-02-03 57
           Lil anninvt2002 10-02-03 58
           RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... SurvivorBlows 10-02-03 63
               Question for SB Debster 10-02-03 69
                   no anotherkim 10-02-03 83
               RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... LozengeofLove 10-02-03 86
 May I just reiterate Coconut 10-02-03 51
 Will Drake throw the IC next week?!... Nanook 10-02-03 52
 OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in ... anninvt2002 10-02-03 53
   RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... mistofleas 10-02-03 62
       RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... ExInterper 10-02-03 65
           The lie was hidden from Probst... IceCat 10-02-03 67
               RE: The lie was hidden from Probst.... ExInterper 10-02-03 68
           To Quote Mr. Probst.... silentJ 10-02-03 70
               RE: To Quote Mr. Probst.... stonemik 10-02-03 74
                   RE: To Quote Mr. Probst.... ExInterper 10-02-03 76
                       RE: To Quote Mr. Probst.... silentJ 10-02-03 80
                           RE: To Quote Mr. Probst.... mistofleas 10-03-03 94
                               RE: To Quote Mr. Probst.... Brownroach 10-03-03 98
                                   RE: To Quote Mr. Probst.... mistofleas 10-03-03 99
       RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... ExInterper 10-02-03 66
           RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... whoami 10-02-03 87
               RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... SteffiGurl 10-03-03 90
                   RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... ShowMeTheWinner 10-03-03 96
                       RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... mistofleas 10-03-03 97
                           RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie... ExInterper 10-03-03 101
 RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thre... Joyful 10-03-03 92
   Darrah did have a spear,, i think anninvt2002 10-03-03 95
       RE: Darrah did have a spear,, i thi... mistofleas 10-03-03 100

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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Jeff is even calling him "skinny Ryan" now.
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2. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Lillian is praying and tearing up. Lillian says that Darrah is lying in the shelter at 102 pounds and may not have energy. Lillian tries to convince Andrew that Osten quit and should go. Andrew talks about getting Osten fired up.

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3. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Jon and Sandra fight about who is the better swimmer, to decide who will sit out a swimming challenge. Both are fighting so they will not be viewed as the weakest member of the tribe.

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4. "Key Confessional!!!"
Sandra is so gonna win!!!

Jon just said he hopes Sandra doesn't make F4 and he's sure she won't win!

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6. "RE: Key Confessional!!!"
Jon actually said he would bet the million Sandra doesn't win. Foreshadowing?
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7. "RE: Key Confessional!!!"
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-03 AT 08:14 PM (EST)

Ya, Jon's "I got a million dollars that says Sandra won't be there at the end" or whatever certainly seems to be classic Burnett foreshadowing

-SB

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10. "same thing"
I was thinking the same thing!!!

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13. "Ding ding"
I thought the swame thing, too. Wonder if he'd be THAT obvious?


Miscellaneous Ramblings
--Darrah still annoys me

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19. "RE: Ding ding"
Well you have to remember back to the Amazon. Christa said she wasn't gonna let either of her evil step-sisters win...

Guess what?

'Nuff said.

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56. "Not so sure"
I hope you're right, because the alternative is too horrific to tell - it sounded to me like Jon has a majority alliance


of course, it's quite likely he's a big fool or and a pawn

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5. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
RC Reward: Mattress, 4 pillows, 4 blankets, another treasure map piece, loot another item from other camp.

Drake sits out Michelle and Jon

RC: Pull out corks from boats and sink boats.

Morgan
Osten, Lillian, Tijuana - first to sink
Darrah, Andrew, Ryan O. - 2nd to sink

Drake
Rupert, Christa, Trish,
Sandra, Burton, Shawn

Drake wins RC, Jon does front flip off platform, Michelle does back flip off platform.

djandy

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14. "After running away, Osten sinks hinself"

First Osten's boat paddles off into a corner, leaving Andrew's boat to be surrounded by the 2 Drake boats. Then after Andrew yells at him to come help and get back in the game, the fool comes over and STANDS UP IN HIS BOAT, trying to get better leverage to push down on his paddle and sink a Drake boat... and in the process actually submerges his own boat and sinks.

-SB

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8. "Osten"
was such a waste of space during that RC. he did MUCH more hurt to his own boat than he did to the other boat. I hope someone noticed.

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20. "RE: Osten"
Andrew said they had as many corks out as the other tribe. But it was Rupert's strength that beat them.
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25. "rationalization"
could it be they have a hidden alliance and andrew was rationalizing the outcome of the challenge?

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9. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Man, Darrah was gettin' vicious out there! I feel so bad for her! (not her tribe)

Mark my word on Sandra...

(If she doesn't win, Darrah should!)

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11. "Man"

Morgan just sucks. Wow. Osten, honey, don't sink your own damn boat!

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--wow, wow, wow

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12. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
I'm actually feeling a little sorry for the Morgan tribe.
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24. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
I too am feeling sorry for Morgan and Lil!
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15. "need to be a team"
Ryan O whining b/c Lil went off alone to fish.

hello? go with her. duh.

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16. "lost hook"
is the lost fishing hook going to get Lil booted?
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17. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Lill loses hook when she tries to fish. Says she used a fisherman's knot, but it still fell off. Everyone is mad at her for losing the fish and bait.

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23. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
I loved it when Andrew was assessing the knot that Lil used. Like he was involved in it at all?? Did he see it from the beach? Do fish talk to him? He is too smug for primetime TV. Blech.


--vote.him.off!

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59. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Really. Could Andrew have tied the knot better than Lil?

Naw.


A Kyngsladye Original

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79. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Andrew's such a lawyer, his whole strategy seems to be "convict convict convict!" He's a man of conviction.

Lill should have given up fishing once she saw the waters were filled with fugu. Don't mess with fugu!

ARRRRRRR!!!!

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82. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Maybe he could.....but then who was it who lost the OTHER hooks?

It's bad when you lose the last hook because it's the last one, but anyone who lost any or all of the other three is just as responsible for their situation. There's a reason they had only one hook left and no one said anything that indicated that it was all Lil's fault they were in that situation to begin with.

It's yet another sign of bad team work that they focused on Lil's culpability instead of immediately pulling together to find a solution. Andrew seems to have a fairly good grasp of what makes the people of his team tick, but he doesn't seem to have a clue about how to create a functioning team. Jeff is right; if they don't pull together, there won't be anyone left to pull of whatever the hell strategy they think they have going.

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93. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
On TES Lillian mentioned all 3 hooks were lost by 3 different people. But she would not name who lost the other 2 hooks.

I wish they had shown more clearly why Lillian was fishing alone. She said they weren't up so she went alone. Ryan said that she wouldn't wait and she left. So which was it? Did she try to wake anyone to go with her? Did she get up too early to be reasonable. Or did the others sleep too late? Did she ask, did they refuse to go that early? We never get all the details.

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18. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-03 AT 08:24 PM (EST)

Christa loots from Morgan their large metal pot. She hugs everybody. Andrew tries to cross-examine her to ask her who does she think will be the first one voted off her tribe, and she keeps saying "I don't know". Then after Christa goes Morgan says she's putting on a dumb act and can't be that dumb.

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21. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Christa was pretty cool about taking the pot. However, I am really liking the interaction the pillaging allows! It is a good twist!

GO VOLS!

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26. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
I am waiting to see who will be the Jenna and spill everything about their tribe.
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22. "morgans sore losers"
they grill her with questions about her tribe's dynamics {good idea} (who's the leader? who gets along? who will be voted out first?) but she offers not a bit of helpful answers {also good idea} so the sore loser morgans start smack-talking

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31. "RE: morgans sore losers"
You would be whinning too if you had just lost 6 challenges in a row! Man, these guys are not doing too well!
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27. "IC"
hanging tribemate

rest of tribe holds up

strongest is anchor

whoever drops loses

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28. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-03 AT 08:36 PM (EST)

Drake sits out Burton and Trish

IC: Smallest 2 members (Michelle and Darrah) are held up in a pulley tripod.

5 members must play tug of war to hold them up, from weakest to strongest. First one lowered loses. Every 5 minutes 2 team members let go. End Rupert vs. Osten. Darrah and Michelle are numb. After 1 hour 30 minutes Rupert and Osten must stand up. After 2 hours no leaning and no wrapping rope around hitching post or touching post. Osten lets go and Drake wins immunity.

Can anyone remember the order of members? Could be how the members view their strength.

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30. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
I don't think Osten ever really got the rope off the hitching post -- maybe for a second or two here or there, but he basically couldn't get it off the post and stabilize in an initial stand-up position
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49. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Lillian < Tijuana < Andrew < Ryan < Osten

Jon < Sandra < Christa < Shawn < Rupert

guess sandra was right about Jon, bwahaha

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29. "Drake wins IC"
morgan goes to TC
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32. "RE: Drake wins IC"
Rupert's strength won both their challenges today. Rupert had the strength to hold the boat underwater. And he had the strength and weight for the pulley comp. What happens when they have a comp that requires weight and he has to sit out?
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42. "RE: Drake wins IC"
I don't understand the question... the rule is that the same person can't sit out twice in a row -- not that everyone has to sit out once before anyone can sit out a second time.

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46. "RE: Drake wins IC"
But what if they decide to sit Rupert out before they know the challenge and it turns out to need strength.
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50. "RE: Drake wins IC"
You're missing my point... there's NO NEED to ever decide to sit out Rupert. There will always be OTHER ELIGIBILE PEOPLE available. So why would they ever decide to sit out their most valuable player?

The only time it might be a problem is if they win both challenges next week and have to sit out FOUR people in the Ep5 RC -- and then the other four would have to sit out the Ep5 IC. But that also assumes both challenges will require sit-out's -- not all do.

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60. "RE: Drake wins IC"
I just thought the others might get upset if they have to sit out and Rupert never does. He may not be the best in speed or balance type challenges. He is just great in the strength ones.
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33. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Yet another reason to love Rupert: the looks of death he kept shooting Osten, and the evil smile whenever Osten looked discouraged.

Man is it going to suck if he gets kicked off next week....

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34. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Rupert is the type of player a team would want to kick off right before the merge.
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35. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Andrew says he has an alliance of sorts with Ryan O., Osten, and Tijuana. He says that Lill and Darrah are on the block. Tijuana tells Darrah that she is at risk, but Darrah doesn't react. Andrew and Tijuana don't know if she doesn't care or is confident.

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55. "Andrew's strategy...."

he says Lil was booted due to strategy.....wonder what he is thinking the benefits of keeping Darrah over Lillian are? I just don't see it.
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61. "RE: Andrew's strategy...."
the only thing i can think of is taht maybe they plan on throwing the next challenge or two too and get rid of Darrah and Osten or Ryan and then use themselves as a swing voting block

it actually might not be a bad idea since they've started off so badly

of course the irony is that Drake may be trying to throw a challenge too, and morgan couldn't win despite winning...and drake may try and sacrifice the Rupert, who andrew says is the one that keeps doing them in...


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77. "RE: Andrew's strategy...."
It must be remembered by all that if Lil is the one who finds her way back into the game Andrew's strategy might just come back and bite him in the butt. With the amount of foreshadowing seen tonight I wouldn't want to bet against it.
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36. "Lil voted out"
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-03 AT 08:50 PM (EST)

Darah votes Lil

Lillian votes "Dara"

Lill voted out 5-1

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40. "RE: Lil voted out"
But her flame would not go out. Jeff said they didn't want her to go.....
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37. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
That torch was SO gimmicked. That's the way they get around it: they must have randomly gimmicked one or more torches. If it doesn't go out at first, you must get a chance to come back in the game.
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41. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
THAT'S an interesting idea!
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44. "Is Drake going to throw a challenge"
Sounds like the Drake tribe is getting angry at a certain person and wants to throw a challenge to get rid of this person.
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45. "RE: Is Drake going to throw a challenge"
And apparently, the target isn't Rupert...

...but it might BECOME Rupert if he refuses to do throw the challenge...

Wasn't this the exact same thing that got Sook Jai in trouble?

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81. "RE: Is Drake going to throw a challenge"
When I saw the preview all I could think was it's Thailand II. A tribe that seems incredibly strong throws a challenge to get rid of an outsider (Jon in S7, Jed in S5). That gives the other team momentum while the once strong tribe's self destruction continues...Plus, since Morgan is bonding as the losing tribe just as Chuay Gahn did, they will stick together stronger than the winning tribe. Notice in Thailand how Shii Ann and Penny turned on their own tribe at the first chance. Hmmm...we'll see.
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47. "RE: Is Drake going to throw a challenge"
Previews: Shawn was trying to convince Rupert to throw a challenge to get rid of an annoying person that everybody wanted to leave, and Christa was talking about the downside of winning is that you can't get rid of annoying people. Of course they were showing Jon at the time. However, would they so blatantly give us next week's boot?

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72. "RE: Is Drake going to throw a challenge"
I don't think they are - I think that they're trying to convince Rupert to throw the challenge, he does then they vote him off for blowing the challenge - but this does not make any sense because he OWNED the IC
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38. "foreshadowing 101?"
lill's torch won't go out at TC!!

let's hope that mean she comes back

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39. "OH MY GOSH!"
LIL's torch wouldn't go out the first time! Jeff said "THEY don't want you to go". HOW perfect was that?


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64. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
Very cool indeed!

Please let it mean something!

I can't believe I'm depressed that Lil is gone, I'am way too into this.

Just a thought, who are "they"? If "they" did'nt want her to go, why vote her out? Could something happen to make "them" regret their vote?

Why does next week seem so far away?

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71. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
I saw that too - my first thought was remembering "Skinny" Ryans comment to Lil in E2 and then Jeff's comment. Lil's exit in E3 contradicts the rumor that the 3rd ejection is a male.
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73. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
"Lil's exit in E3 contradicts the rumor that the 3rd ejection is a male."

Not necessarily. There has been some speculation that Lillian could be the 3rd boot male due to her short hair and BOY scout uniform. (Oh, and small chest, as compared to the usual bimbos).

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78. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
The idea that the third bootie would be a male was refuted by Wheezie (sp). That rumor got started because of the Spanish use of the masculine when gender is unknown... so the bootie could have been either male or female.

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75. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
Remember for future use just what Lil said about the leader keeping his word to her. Might just have a huge influence in the outcome of this game.
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85. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
Remember for future use just what Lil said about the leader keeping his word to her.

I thought this was an interesting comment, especially when coupled with Andrew's comment about it being a strategy vote and hoping it was the right move.

Could this be foreshadowing that when Lil comes back, she turns people against Andrew because he didn't keep his word to her?

We really do have guidelines here. Don't make me go all Joan Crawford about it.

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91. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
Remember from the beginning that Lil was always thought of as the most trustworthy member of Morgan. If Lil told someone that Andrew was untrustworthy would you value her opinion? I know I would. Andrew the seeds have been planted that untimately will lead to your boot.
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84. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
>Please let it mean something!

As Jon would say "I'd bet a million dollar that the non-extigished flame was shot after that tribal council." The second attempt was what actually happened at TC. It means exactly what has been rumored. A torch has never done that before (and in that wind), the odds would be astronomical that this would happen to the one person that is coming back.


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89. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
>The second
>attempt was what actually happened
>at TC.It means exactly
>what has been rumored. A
>torch has never done that
>before (and in that wind),
>the odds would be astronomical
>that this would happen to
>the one person that is
>coming back.

Jeff has probably had torch trouble several times before, it was just edited out. THIS time it actually has meaning, therefore it was shown.

MB just threw the spoiling community a bone, IMHO.


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88. "RE: OH MY GOSH!"
> Just a thought, who are
>"they"? If "they" did'nt want
>her to go, why vote
>her out? Could something happen
>to make "them" regret their
>vote?
>

I suppose they could always explain "them" as being the gods and goblins of voodoo (or whatever spirits and supernatural forces voodoo is all about). If I remember correctly, the German version "Gestrandet" had voodoo dolls for all the contestants, so it's not that much of a long shot to think MB would borrow that theme. Maybe "he" doesn't return players to life, but who is he to argue if it happens because of the supernatural?

I'm going to keep close watch on Lil's interviews. If she's voted off for good, she should be able to talk freely now. But, what if she returns...... ????? What can she say then?


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43. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Who were the two people that stayed behind and caused people to wonder what they were doing?
Did I miss something?
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48. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
I forgot about that. Only 6 of the Drake tribe went looking for treasure. But nobody wondered what Jon and Christy were doing when they didn't go. I think it was Jon and Christy that didn't go.
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54. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Also, nobody lost anything crucial to the tribe's survival. The only things 'lost' were the water pot, which wasn't lost by just one member, and the IC, which Osten lost but didn't exactly incite any fury. CBS is really playing mind games with us.
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57. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
Lil lost the fishing hook and it sounds like the tribe was pretty upset with her for that (I wouldn't know, I'm still stuck at work)
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58. "Lil"
Lil lost Morgans last hook, remember?
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63. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
You're kidding right? You don't think the fact that Lill lost their last fishing hook and they now have to try and make a drag net isn't important???

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69. "Question for SB"
I'm in Seattle , so haven't seen yet but according to reports Lil came home with a broken foot. Was she injured tonight? If not, it could mean she comes back or she injured it after she left the tribe (before returning home).
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83. "no"

the only injury she had was the screwing that Andrew gave her in deference to Darrah Gump.


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86. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
I had a memory lapse. It happens.
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51. "May I just reiterate"
That Osten is SUCH a waste of oxygen. What a wussy.

Ryan O. was featured more, too. AND he didn't sound so much like Andrew's puppet.



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52. "Will Drake throw the IC next week?!?!"
Preview for next week's show - Drake discussing throwing the Immunity Challenge next week because they want somebody to leave (Jon, I think). Do you all think this will happen?
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53. "OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
Looks like we will have the near drowning of Osten and the lie by Shawn next week. I guess Lil's torch not going out the first time is our older women F2. If Drake implodes...still could go in to the merge even... 5 and 5 even with no swap. We will see. Good show tonite
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62. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
and the lie by Shawn next week

What lie are you talking about?


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65. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
Maybe Shawn lies to Rupert about wanting to throw the challenge. Rupert does so and everyone blames him for their first loss. Rupert's "mutiny" speech is after Shawn denies telling Rupert to throw, Rupert gets the boot, and Drake loses challenges from thereon out without Rupert's strength, causing the "big regret."

just a thought.

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67. "The lie was hidden from Probst..."
Probst was quoted as having been taken in by the lie. If the discussion between Shawn and Rupert appears on tape (per the preview) then this cannot be the lie of which Probst was unaware.

Probst would have seen the tape and therefore would have known of Shawn's comments.

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68. "RE: The lie was hidden from Probst..."
damn...keep forgetting that part.

and I thought was being all smart.

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70. "To Quote Mr. Probst...."
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-03 AT 10:07 PM (EST)

"M***** F***er!"
That fits entirely. It's Brutal. It's Brilliant. Telling your cheif rival everyone wants to throw the challenge, then letting them fall on their face when they single handedly cost the tribe immunityis both those things. I thought last week's spear head loss was a little too convinient. Rupert single handedly won both challenges tonight. Shawn knows he'll be trouble down the road.
I can see Probst not seeing it. He can't see ALL the footage on site. All it takes is one sentence from Shawn, and Rupe is set up.
The others wouldn't know about the lie yet either, as they fell for it hook line and sinker if this is the lie. And they won't know till next week either.
If this is the case, and the other challenges are stregth based, and Rupert is gone, Drake will lose. Then Morgan will a) regret the big lie and b)understand why you shouldn't throw challenges.
It all fits. I satisfied. And saddened by the eminant loss of my most favoritest Survivor ever.

(Now if I could just figure out the deal with Lillian's Torch)

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74. "RE: To Quote Mr. Probst...."
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well HOPEFULLY this won't happen -
Don't forget the rest about the lie:
"Probst on The Big Lie: "Well, I'm in danger of becoming Mark in over-hyping the lie, but I'm out there actually believing this thing, and when I find out that its really a lie, it surprises me! Is it like Ted and Ghandia? Not really . . . its a flat-out absolute lie that one person tells everybody else, and they believe it. In fact, I'm sure that they still don't know its a lie and won't find out until they watch the show along with the audience."
If this is indeed true, they would figure out the lie straight on after IC or the next day if this were the lie.

How does this play into that plan? am I just missing something?

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76. "RE: To Quote Mr. Probst...."
I think the "hate him, then cheer him" was more in reference to Jon specifically. It got attached to the lie after Jiffy said that Jon was the one who lied, but that has since been retracted.

And I appreciate the support, silentJ, but I have to believe he would have seen that part of the footage, like IceCat said. It would be too vital to his questioning at TC not to be aware of.

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80. "RE: To Quote Mr. Probst...."
What if: Rupret throws the challenge. Everybody knows he did. They confront him. He says Shawn told him too. Shawn says it was Ruperts idea. Everyone believes Shawn. Rupert goes bye-bye.

If the conversation about throwing the challenge was right before the challenge and the TC was soon after, Probst may not have had time to find that 3 seconds of footage in the 50+ hours of footage they shoot each day, thus he believes Shawn too. It doesn't say how long Probst was reeled in, Maybe his "M*F*" comment was the next morning watching the dailies.

I dunno, I'm really thinking this is it. And it'll all play out at the reunion show when everyone sees they made a HUGE mistake.

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10-03-03, 10:17 AM (EST)
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94. "RE: To Quote Mr. Probst...."
Rupert is shown in confessional bad mouthing the person who suggested throwing the challenge. He said "if this were a true pirate culture, he'd be dead by now."

Rupert will not throw the challenge on his own. He's "tribe" oriented right now. He's not going to do something subversive at this point in the game. He's not thinking with a "merge" and individual challenge mentality.

Now I think he would be willing to thrown the challenge if all in the tribe were in agreement, but because he (Rupert) was approached at night an in a clandestine manner, he's pissed off.


--thinks Rupert rules and Andrew drools

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10-03-03, 12:13 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: To Quote Mr. Probst...."
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-03 AT 12:14 PM (EST)

I wonder if this could be the "Regrettable Event"?

I don't see Rupert wanting to throw a challenge under any circumstances. But maybe, just maybe, he gets talked into it eventually by his tribemates, because they want to get rid of Jon. Add in the idea that Morgan might get to choose a member of Drake as an IC reward, the whole thing might blow up in Rupert's face, and then he'd regret ever having listened to his moron tribemates.

The only problem is why would Rupert not yet realize now how much he's going to regret it? Hmmm -- well, it's a thought anyway.


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10-03-03, 12:38 PM (EST)
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99. "RE: To Quote Mr. Probst...."
The only problem is why would Rupert not yet realize now how much he's going to regret it? Hmmm -- well, it's a thought anyway.

I love it when you show your big brain like that BR. Even if I don't see this as happening.


--thinks smart guys are sexy

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10-02-03, 09:34 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
with Shawn's motivation being that he thinks Drake has things well in hand, and Rupert would be too big a threat come merge time: too strong and too much of a provider.
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10-02-03, 11:33 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
Throwing a chalenge is a bad move. Maybe they get to high on their ability to win and think it is a good time to get rid of the stronger threat befor the merge. You do not want to give the other team any momentum. All the chalenges are not phisical from the merge on. It may be misdirection on MB's part just to keep us in suspense.

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10-03-03, 02:43 AM (EST)
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90. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's Burton talking to Rupert in the preview shot, not Shawn.
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10-03-03, 11:46 AM (EST)
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96. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
Yup... I thought it was Burton too!



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10-03-03, 11:47 AM (EST)
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97. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
It was Burton, not Shawn.


--thinks they all look alike

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10-03-03, 12:52 PM (EST)
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101. "RE: OH Yeah...near drowning and lie in the same episode"
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-03 AT 12:53 PM (EST)

My bad.

"--thinks they all look alike": more than agreed. Maybe we should start calling them "Shawburton." Ya know, kinda like "Bennifer." And hope they go the way of Bennifer.

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10-03-03, 06:41 AM (EST)
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92. "RE: S7 - EP3 East Coast Update Thread""
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-03 AT 06:42 AM (EST)

Was it my imagination or did Darrah have a fish spear gun thing? I thought I saw her walking with one toward the end when Andrew and Lil were talking about who should get the boot and they showed Darrah walking down the beach and I'm pretty sure that was a spear gun in her hands, only I didn't see the three prongs sticking out of the top. Just wondering since they've made a big deal out of the lost hook and being hungry and stuff.

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10-03-03, 10:32 AM (EST)
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95. "Darrah did have a spear,, i think"
I agree. I noticed this last night but it went by fast. They showed the clip again with Lil on the early show and it did indeed look like a spear, similiar to Drakes. I wish I could have downloaded it here. So, why, if the Morgans have the same spear, cant they catch fish with it? And are we being sold Lil's boot was because of the hook because that was all they had to kick her out on until her return?
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10-03-03, 12:40 PM (EST)
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100. "RE: Darrah did have a spear,, i think"
I could be a spear but it doesn't necessarily have to be the kick ass 3 pronged type spear that Drake has. It may well be just a pointed stick (which is what I believe it is). It's not as easy to catch fish with that type of spear.


--thinks the only thing you can catch with a pointy stick is a poke in the eye

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