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AyatollahKhomeini 2008 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 08-21-00, 07:36 PM (EST) "POLL: Final Four picks in order, winner first" LAST EDITED ON 08-21-00 AT 07:37 PM (EST) OK, I know that the Webmaster has made it perfectly clear that we don't need to vote for a winner, because we have the poll on the front page. Nevertheless, I think we would all like to see the consensus of the posters on this board about who wins. Thus, this poll. PLEASE PUT YOUR PICKS IN THE "SUBJECT" FIELD OF YOUR POST, WITH WINNER FIRST. Thus, the picks should be in the order 1st-2nd-3rd-4th. Feel free to put the reason for your pick (or any qualifiers)underneath it, in the "Message" field. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE, put that in the "Message" field too but CLEARLY mark it as a change. I'll update the vote totals periodically. Thanks to all of you for making this board a fun place to be for the last couple of weeks!   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    Kelly, Susan, Richard, Rudy AyatollahKhomeini 08-21-00 1    Susan, Rich, Kelly, Rudy Laney 08-21-00 3        RE: Susan, Rich, Kelly, Rudy jurymember 08-22-00 7  Rudy, Richard, Kelly, Susan dangerboy 08-21-00 2  RE: POLL: Final Four picks in order... SurvivorBlows 08-21-00 4  Kelly, Rudy, Sue, Richard finner 08-22-00 5  Woops. Wrong order. Richard, Sue, ... finner 08-22-00 6  Kelly, Rich, Susan, Rudy JustMe 08-22-00 8  (First Theory)Rudy-Rich-Kelly-Sue (... Magus 08-22-00 9  Kelly, Richard, Rudy, Susan the_alphabetizer 08-22-00 10  RE: POLL: Final Four picks in order... JeffHo4 08-22-00 11  Rudy, Richard, Kelly and Sue lucinda987 08-22-00 12    Sue, Rudy, Rich, Kelly snappler24 08-22-00 14        Kelly, Rich, Rudy, Sue snappler24 08-22-00 15        Kelly, Rich, Rudy, Sue snappler24 08-22-00 16  Kelly, Susan, Richard, Rudy flying squirrel 08-22-00 13    Rudy, Susan, Kelly, Richard Rat Chef 08-22-00 17        Richard , Kelly, Susan, Rudy Rat Chef 08-22-00 18            RE: Richard , Kelly, Susan, Rudy hellcat 08-22-00 19                Kelly. Susan, Richard and Rudy Kelly 08-22-00 20        Rat Chef.......... csmitty 08-24-00 48        Rat Chef.......... csmitty 08-24-00 49  RE: POLL: Richard, Rudy, Susan, Ke... crusader 08-22-00 21    RE: Kelly, Rudy, Richard, Susan beachfeet 08-22-00 22  Poll tally, so far AyatollahKhomeini 08-22-00 23    Rudy, Susan, Richard, Kelly xrunner 08-22-00 24    RE: Poll tally, so far cowboyroo 08-22-00 27  Richard, Rudy, Susan, Kelly thumbelina 08-22-00 25  RE: POLL: Final Four picks in order... soozinrocks 08-22-00 26  Rudy, Susan, Kelly, Richard munson 08-22-00 28    oh no Munson! dangerboy 08-22-00 29        I can't help it!!! munson 08-22-00 30            You just couldn't say "Wigglesworth... dangerboy 08-22-00 31  Rudy, Rich, Sue, Kelly Erin25 08-22-00 32  Rudy, Rich, Sue, Kelly Erin25 08-22-00 33  Poll update #2 AyatollahKhomeini 08-23-00 34    Rudy,Sue,Kelly,Richard Little Bob 08-23-00 35        RE: Rudy,Kelly,Richard,Sue castaway 08-23-00 36  Rudy, Kelly, Susan, Richard gorudygo 08-23-00 37  Rudy, Rich, Kelly, Sue VandelayIndustries 08-23-00 38  (1st choice): Rudy, Dicque, Kelly, ... shanana banana 08-23-00 39  Susan, Rudy, Kelley, Richard csmitty 08-23-00 40  Susan, Rich, Kelly, Rudy Stjarna 08-23-00 41  Poll update #3 AyatollahKhomeini 08-23-00 42  Rudy, Kelly, Rich, Susan dfox 08-23-00 43  Rudy - Richard - Kelly - Susan Cherberrie 08-23-00 44  Rudy,Rich,Kelly,Sue gc 08-23-00 45  Rudy, Susan, Richard, Kelly GangGreen 08-23-00 46  Rich, Kelly, Sue, Rudy Me-Lissa 08-23-00 47  NO EXACT MATCHES AyatollahKhomeini 08-24-00 50

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AyatollahKhomeini 2008 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 08-21-00, 07:42 PM (EST) 1. "Kelly, Susan, Richard, Rudy" My analysis lines up with both the "Straight" Access Hollywood Theory, the Missing Three Theory, the Nine-Shift Glossary Theory, and my Magic 8-Ball. Kelly wins both ICs, Richard finally has to cut Rudy loose (but sticks up for him at first and wins Pagong respect), Kelly & Sue vote Richard off per Susan's prediction, and Kelly wins 4-3, with Sean casting the deciding vote for her, making her look pretty silly for the temper tantrum about the breakfast.   Top

Laney 60 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-21-00, 09:00 PM (EST) 3. "Susan, Rich, Kelly, Rudy" I'm waffling with this one. However, among other things I'm basing my theory on where I see the "storyline" going. * Rich will betray Rudy, and Rudy will have the chance to "get back" at Rich in the final vote. "Revenge is Sweet" The vote is said to be close. And MB said it couldn't have been better if he scripted it. Could Rudy be the swing vote that makes Rich loose the Million? * Corporate America vs. Rural Ethics. We've seen this in Ep. #1 and Ep. #12. Who will win out? I think Sue will. (I so badly want to go with the Kelly, Susan, Richard, and Rudy theory but I just can't see Kelly winning 4 IC's in a row, nor can I see anyone wanting to take her to the final 2 with them.) Don't quote me! I'm not married to my own theory yet!   Top

jurymember 68 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-22-00, 00:38 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Susan, Rich, Kelly, Rudy" totally agree with you Laney   Top

dangerboy 128 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 08-21-00, 08:55 PM (EST) 2. "Rudy, Richard, Kelly, Susan" I think Kelly wins the first IC and so Dicque and his B#TCH vote for Susan. The tie is broken when Kelly sees the light and offs her competition. Unfortunately for her the strategy doesn't work since she doesn't win the second IC. Rudy or Dicque win that one and finally get a chance to slice and dice Ms. Whiner. Then in the final TC (where a lot of resentment came out according to MB - which is why I think Dicque gets there) the jury slaps down the Evil One. That leaves Rudy winning.....but not in a homosexual way   Top

SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 08-21-00, 09:04 PM (EST) 4. "RE: POLL: Final Four picks in order, winner first" LAST EDITED ON 08-21-00 AT 09:05 PM (EST) Hey, feel free to take all the board polls you want... just a note that we've just added a couple of additional polls to the front page to give folks a chance to vote for their first and second runner-up's (in the event, that um, the winner is unable to complete their Survivor duties and spend the full $1,000,000) We'll be posting our official pick here as well, but it probably won't be until Wednesday mid-day at the earliest (we're still thinking it over, but right now seem to like Kelly for the top spot)   Top

finner 58 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-22-00, 00:32 AM (EST) 5. "Kelly, Rudy, Sue, Richard" Just because   Top

finner 58 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-22-00, 00:34 AM (EST) 6. "Woops. Wrong order. Richard, Sue, Rudy, Kelly" jb   Top

JustMe 17 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 00:55 AM (EST) 8. "Kelly, Rich, Susan, Rudy" I really agree with Ayatollah but I'll go on a variation of the Kelly wins theme. Kelly wins IC -- and votes for Rudy (figuring it'll be easy to get Sue's vote and Rich is more likely to betray Rudy than Rudy to betray Rich); Sue votes for Rudy, Rich votes for Rudy (maybe after that rumored tie) (Rich figuring there is no way Kelly can win IC 4 in a row and that Sue would be an easier person to beat in the Final Vote than Rudy). Kelly endures the FW (knowing this is her final chance) and wins immunity again! She also figures Rich is easier to beat than Sue and goes with Richard to the final vote. Kelly wins! I haven't a clue really....   Top

Magus 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-22-00, 01:12 AM (EST) 9. "(First Theory)Rudy-Rich-Kelly-Sue (Second Theory)Sue-Rich-Kelly-Rudy" The first one is simple, Kelly is immune, Sue goes, followed by Kelly in the next vote. Rudy beats out Rich. The second theory was also already posted, with Rich betraying Rudy, and Rudy casting the deciding vote against him. Though I'm rooting for Rudy, I'd be happy if anyone but Kelly wins, I really don't want her winning...   Top

the_alphabetizer 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 01:28 AM (EST) 10. "Kelly, Richard, Rudy, Susan" Theory: Kelly wins the first immunity, bye bye Suixsan. Kelly wins immunity again, Rudy goes next (Richard should watch out for his kneecaps) Between Kelly and Richard (final 2) Kelly wins hands down, the pagongers are NOT going to vote for Richard over Kelly. HMMMM how are they going to collect her legal fees for her little indiscretion with the credit card......because you know big brother (not that one!) will get his due!   Top

JeffHo4 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 03:35 AM (EST) 11. "RE: POLL: Final Four picks in order, winner first" LAST EDITED ON 08-22-00 AT 03:39 AM (EST)   Top

lucinda987 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 02:05 PM (EST) 12. "Rudy, Richard, Kelly and Sue" Consulted the ouija board.   Top

snappler24 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 02:14 PM (EST) 14. "Sue, Rudy, Rich, Kelly" Theory: the secret to the winner is the survivor website. if u look at the ordering of the survivors in the survivor profile, u'll see the order in which pagong and tagi castaways got booted off.   Top

snappler24 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 02:16 PM (EST) 15. "Kelly, Rich, Rudy, Sue" My bad, i switched the order before   Top

snappler24 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 02:16 PM (EST) 16. "Kelly, Rich, Rudy, Sue" My bad, i switched the order before, but my theory still holds.   Top

flying squirrel 290 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 08-22-00, 02:10 PM (EST) 13. "Kelly, Susan, Richard, Rudy" Going with AK on the outcome, although I agree with CJ that Kelly may want to boot Susan in the first TC. Richard would have to vote to boot Rudy for there to be a tie. Then Kelly would switch. A very different dynamic than AK's, but same result.   Top

Rat Chef 216 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 08-22-00, 02:25 PM (EST) 17. "Rudy, Susan, Kelly, Richard" I just don't think Rudy will survive that first immunity challenge, which involves regurgitating detailed information about his fellow survivors. Not his strong suit. I think he is bounced right after that and that is when the harsh words occur between him and Richard ... and possibly about the whole freakin' show. Kelly should be OK on the next immunity challenge and would surely choose Richard to compete against in the final because he, as the ringleader of the alliance, would appear to her to be less of a threat than Susan. I can see some snappy words between her and Susan at that point as well, running with the Gretchen interview about supreme (and wildly entertaining! ooh la la!) ugliness at the final TC. Richard wins in a stunning reversal of fortune. Or I could be all wrong, the Pagoners could sit there and refuse to vote, the whole damn thing collapses and MB and Anal Probe are forced to "take extreme measures" to force a decision.   Top

Rat Chef 216 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 08-22-00, 02:27 PM (EST) 18. "Richard , Kelly, Susan, Rudy" Hot damn rats! ... I had the order backwards in the previous subject header ... Rat Chef screwed up! Rat Chef's sorry. >I just don't think Rudy will >survive that first immunity challenge, >which involves regurgitating detailed information >about his fellow survivors. Not >his strong suit. I think >he is bounced right after >that and that is when >the harsh words occur between >him and Richard ... and >possibly about the whole freakin' >show. > >Kelly should be OK on the >next immunity challenge and would >surely choose Richard to compete >against in the final because >he, as the ringleader of >the alliance, would appear to >her to be less of >a threat than Susan. I >can see some snappy words >between her and Susan at >that point as well, running >with the Gretchen interview about >supreme (and wildly entertaining! ooh >la la!) ugliness at the >final TC. > >Richard wins in a stunning reversal >of fortune. > >Or I could be all wrong, >the Pagoners could sit there >and refuse to vote, the >whole damn thing collapses and >MB and Anal Probe are >forced to "take extreme measures" >to force a decision.   Top

hellcat 23 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 02:45 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Richard , Kelly, Susan, Rudy" Rich, sue, Rudy, Kelly. Rich wins!   Top

Kelly 43 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-22-00, 03:27 PM (EST) 20. "Kelly. Susan, Richard and Rudy" I am glad people have the same theory as me!!!! I hope I have helped convince you in some way tovote that way!!!!! YEah go Kelly go Kelly GO GO!!!!!! PEace.   Top

csmitty 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-24-00, 09:36 AM (EST) 48. "Rat Chef.........." >Kelly should be OK on the >next immunity challenge and would >surely choose Richard to compete >against in the final because >he, as the ringleader of >the alliance, would appear to >her to be less of >a threat than Susan. I >can see some snappy words >between her and Susan at >that point as well, running >with the Gretchen interview about >supreme (and wildly entertaining! ooh >la la!) ugliness at the >final TC. > >Richard wins in a stunning reversal >of fortune. You were the closes to getting the order correct, and you definately had the final scenerio down!! Pretty smart!!   Top

csmitty 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-24-00, 09:44 AM (EST) 49. "Rat Chef.........." >Kelly should be OK on the >next immunity challenge and would >surely choose Richard to compete >against in the final because >he, as the ringleader of >the alliance, would appear to >her to be less of >a threat than Susan. I >can see some snappy words >between her and Susan at >that point as well, running >with the Gretchen interview about >supreme (and wildly entertaining! ooh >la la!) ugliness at the >final TC. > >Richard wins in a stunning reversal >of fortune. You were the closes to getting the order correct, and you definately had the final scenerio down!! Pretty smart!!   Top

crusader 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 03:50 PM (EST) 21. "RE: POLL: Richard, Rudy, Susan, Kelly" Based on the Theory of Realtivity.   Top

beachfeet 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-22-00, 04:01 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Kelly, Rudy, Richard, Susan" I'm basing it on hunch (even though I want Rudy to win, he can't win final vote against Kelly) and final 4 pic that I think has them in order from left to right. ( I hope I'm wrong I want Rudy to win!)   Top

AyatollahKhomeini 2008 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 08-22-00, 04:10 PM (EST) 23. "Poll tally, so far" Through 22 posts (16 votes): Winner: Kelly - 7, Richard - 4, Rudy - 3, Susan - 2. Second: Kelly - 2, Richard - 8, Rudy - 2, Susan - 4. Third: Kelly - 5, Richard - 4, Rudy - 3, Susan - 4. Fourth: Kelly - 2, Richard - 0, Rudy - 8, Susan - 6. Too early for a clear consensus, although it appears that we expect a Rudy-Susan tie in TC #1, with Richard and Kelly advancing to the finals.   Top

xrunner 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-22-00, 04:55 PM (EST) 24. "Rudy, Susan, Richard, Kelly" Rudy is almost definitely to be first or second and Richard is definitely not going to win.   Top

cowboyroo 590 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 08-22-00, 08:59 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Poll tally, so far" Kelly, Susan, Richard, Rudy   Top

thumbelina 6 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 05:06 PM (EST) 25. "Richard, Rudy, Susan, Kelly" This is just the little theory I cooked up and Im sticking to it because I dont believe any of the spoilers anymore 1st TC- Kelly wins immunity, lets it be known to Sue and Rudy she will be voting for Richard. Sue realizes that the "stick with Rich and Rudy" strategy was stupid and that now Rich and Rudy will be gunning for her and she will obviously never make the Final 2. There is a tie... Richard, Rudy- Sue Kelly, Sue- Richard Rudy flops and Richard gets sent packing first. All Alliances crumble because Kelly will have no part in one and Rudy doesnt trust Sue as far as he can throw her (and remember, shes heavy and hes old) 2nd TC- Sue finally wins a damn challenge. All that hunting and trucking makes her the perfect candidate to win fire walking (tough feet and no fear.) Knowing that she has a better chance of trashing Kelly in the Final TC and winning (saying Kelly was a "double agent" and a "backstabber"...a good way to play with the Pagong vote) Also, Rudy is not seen as a ringleader of the alliance and commands more respect, so he is more of a threat in the final TC. (She must know that Rudy already has Rich, Sean, and Gervase's votes locked down) She votes for Rudy along with Kelly and he gets the boot. Last TC- This is where the "resentment" comes out full force. Kelly and Sue rip at each other full force and it gets very personal. At the end Kelly is crying and Sue looks deepy hurt and slightly angry. The vote goes... Richard, Rudy- Sue Gervase, Jenna, Colleen, Sean, and Greg- Kelly   Top

soozinrocks 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 07:44 PM (EST) 26. "RE: POLL: Final Four picks in order, winner first" Susan, Rich, Rudy, Kelly   Top

munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 10:21 PM (EST) 28. "Rudy, Susan, Kelly, Richard" I've flip-flopped Rudy and Kelly several times during the past 48 hours. Gonna go with this line-up. I'm amazed at how quickly the sentiment has turned toward Kelly and away from Rudy. Two weeks ago most would have thought her chances were next to zero! Guilty secret: I'm hoping she pulls it out.   Top

dangerboy 128 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 10:29 PM (EST) 29. "oh no Munson!" =:-o OH noooo... you've gone over to the dark side!   Top

munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 11:05 PM (EST) 30. "I can't help it!!!" There's an allure to the dark side that I find, I don't know, darkly alluring. This Kelly jones is somewhat troubling but I admire her spunk. She's fighting for her life against the "unholy trinity" and has me rooting for her.   Top

dangerboy 128 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 08-22-00, 11:13 PM (EST) 31. "You just couldn't say "Wigglesworth" could you?" I don't know about that. Every time I rewatch episode 12 I remember the scene where she is laying there and opens one eye looking at the camera and I get the heebie jeebies. She gets the hairs on the back of my neck up. She's a schemer too! I don't like her spunk - she's a meanie. Good picture up above though. They all seem to clean up good.   Top

Erin25 36 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-22-00, 11:40 PM (EST) 32. "Rudy, Rich, Sue, Kelly" Kelly's luck will run out, paving the way for Rudy to win it all.   Top

Erin25 36 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-22-00, 11:41 PM (EST) 33. "Rudy, Rich, Sue, Kelly" LAST EDITED ON 08-22-00 AT 11:44 PM (EST)   Top

AyatollahKhomeini 2008 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 08-23-00, 02:56 AM (EST) 34. "Poll update #2" Through 33 posts (22 votes): 1st: Kelly - 9, Richard - 4, Rudy - 6, Susan - 3. 2nd: Kelly - 2. Richard -10, Rudy - 2, Susan - 8. 3rd: Kelly - 6, Richard - 6, Rudy - 5, Susan - 5. 4th: Kelly - 5, Richard - 2, Rudy - 9, Susan - 6. To all of you who are out there reading and lurking but not voting: PLEASE VOTE. Believe me, nobody will say anything worse about you than I'll say about myself if my picks are wrong!   Top

Little Bob 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-23-00, 03:23 AM (EST) 35. "Rudy,Sue,Kelly,Richard" We have to remember that the final vote is "as close as it can get" and that would probably mean Richard and Kelly final two. The jury has trouble giving the money to Kelly because she is playing both sides and would not want to give it to Richard because he is the main reason they're sitting out. It all depends on how persuasive their arguments are.   Top

castaway 168 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 08-23-00, 08:06 AM (EST) 36. "RE: Rudy,Kelly,Richard,Sue" Based on a combination of the Enie-Meanie-Miney-Moe Theory, the Your Guess is as Good as Mine Theory & the I Don't Really Care who wins anymore Theory...   Top

gorudygo 51 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 08-23-00, 08:15 AM (EST) 37. "Rudy, Kelly, Susan, Richard" Now, all you queers and lesbians JUST LEAVE ME ALONE!   Top

VandelayIndustries 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-23-00, 09:53 AM (EST) 38. "Rudy, Rich, Kelly, Sue" Based on Kelly winning first immunity challenge (I've heard that someone wins 3 immunity challenges in a row - this can only be Kelly). Penis alliance eliminates Sue. Once Sue is gone, the next immunity challenge is a wild card, but since Kelly can't win - otherwise she would win 4 in a row - Rich/Rudy eliminate Kelly leaving Rudy and Rich as final two. Rudy then wins vote by jury.   Top

shanana banana 658 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 08-23-00, 10:53 AM (EST) 39. "(1st choice): Rudy, Dicque, Kelly, Soozan; (2nd choice) Rudy, Dicque, Soozan, Kelly" My first choice is based on if Kelly wins first immunity challenge. My second choice is if she loses it. I would love to see Dicque win, but I know in my heart it's just not going to happen. As long as Kelly doesn't win, that's all I care about!   Top

csmitty 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-23-00, 11:08 AM (EST) 40. "Susan, Rudy, Kelley, Richard" I don't really think that Rudy will win simply because I think that MB has made it look so obvious that it is Rudy. More than 50% of all people think it is Rudy, and that means everyone, not just this site. I think that Kelley will win immunity in 13a challenge, and they will vote off Richard. I think that Susan or Rudy, but not Kelley will win 13b challenge and then vote off Kelley leaving Rudy and Susan as the final two. I think that the council will end up deciding on Susan. I think we didn't see alot of what went on with Sue and Rudy, and I think that Sue isn't as bad as she is made out to be. She seemed to really care about Kelley at one point. In her interview with AH she seems really nice and seems to really love her husband. I think that we haven't seen the "soft" side of her. I wonder why? Everyone thinks that she is the last one who could win..I think that the show has been edited to make her look this way so when she does win, we are all shocked. As for Rudy, all he does is sit around, cook rice, critise what he does hear about people, and then say "I don't know". I think that he may have judged some people to harshly and may have burned some bridges along the way. My vote: Susan - 1st Rudy - 2nd Kelley - 3rd Richard - 4th Although, in the end, Richard is the real winner because he is so marketable. He will make a killing of the publicity. His ego is probably HUGH by now!!   Top

Stjarna 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-23-00, 11:29 AM (EST) 41. "Susan, Rich, Kelly, Rudy" I decided to go by method of elimination, summarizing some of the sentiments expressed by myself and others on these boards. WHY NOT RUDY I used to think that Rudy is the winner, but there seem to be too many red herrings surrounding him. On a purely intuitive level, it has been made too much of an obvious, easy, predictable choice to be true. After all, with all their freedom to manipulate how each of the cast members is presented, MB & Co. have indeed made it very compelling that he'll be the winner. And that is precisely what doesn't sit well with me. After all, that would ruin the element of surprise that Mark seems so keen on maintaining throughout the show. Second, from the Sue and Rich's point of view, neither of them would want to be next to the old crusty guy, who clearly has sympathy of many Pagong members, at the final counsil. Third, he seems very unlikely to win any of the remaining 2 immunity challenges (one involves knowing well all 12 castaways that have been voted off, and the other - walking on coals), which would be the only way he could ever hope to get to the final 2. WHY NOT KELLY I could use many of the same arguments as for Rudy. Mainly, she won't become the winner because Sue and Rich won't let her (again, because she would definitely win the final popularity vote from Pagong). Now, she might win one more IC (the 1st one), but not the second (can you really imagine her being able to walk on hot coals longer than Sue?!). That's why she'll also be a gonner. WHY NOT RICH Finally, it's not going to be Rich because he's been portrayed very deliberately by MB as the most evil person on the island. If he were the true winner, CBS would've at least tried to redeem him a little (like they did with Sue by showing her more human side). And if faced against Sue, he doesn't stand a very good chance at being made the winner by Pagong-dominated jury. This leaves us with the unlikely winner - Sue. Stjarna   Top

AyatollahKhomeini 2008 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 08-23-00, 12:35 PM (EST) 42. "Poll update #3" Through 41 posts (29 votes) 1st: Kelly - 9; Richard - 5; Rudy -10; Susan - 5. 2nd: Kelly - 5; Richard -13; Rudy - 3; Susan - 8. 3rd: Kelly -10; Richard - 7; Rudy - 5; Susan - 7. 4th: Kelly - 5; Richard - 4; Rudy -11; Susan - 9. Note that Rudy is now the plurality choice to win and also the plurality choice to finish last! By the way, for those of you who listed your votes in the wrong order, I've switched them to reflect your true intentions. You're welcome.   Top

dfox 33 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-23-00, 03:47 PM (EST) 43. "Rudy, Kelly, Rich, Susan" Hell, Webbie damn near stole my thunder. I had a long post started but lost my connection to the net and thus, the whole damn thing. In short: Kelly wins 3rd IC in a row and joins R & R after a couple of votes at TC to boot Susan ("This is what being stabbed in the back looks like bitch"). Rudy wins the "Obstacle course" and chooses Kelly to go to the showdown ("I just didn't want to spend one more night with the queer"), thinking that a rickety old curmudgeon would stand a better chance against a double-agent instead of a conniver who played the game correctly. Rudy's right. The Pagongers won't forgive Kelly but, it'll be close. Rudeman - King of the island. It's "T minus 5 hours ..." for me. And I'm sure that I will probably be second guessing myself the entire time. But, that's the fun of participating with you guys in this phenomenon. Thanks for the ride guys. It's been great.   Top

Cherberrie 1285 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 08-23-00, 04:01 PM (EST) 44. "Rudy - Richard - Kelly - Susan" Reason: 1) Kelly will win first immunity challenge and Rudy & Richard will both vote for Susan 2) Kelly doesn't win immunity and Rudy and Richard vote her out. 3) Everyone dislikes Richard so Rudy is chosen by the TC as the lesser of two evils.   Top

gc 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 08-23-00, 04:03 PM (EST) 45. "Rudy,Rich,Kelly,Sue" 1st immunity is crucial to Rudy winning all   Top

GangGreen 47 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 08-23-00, 04:55 PM (EST) 46. "Rudy, Susan, Richard, Kelly" Because the correct choice is sometimes the most obvious. The most "spoilers" point to Rudy winning; Susan made enough to not have to work for three years; and Richard's winnings covered court expenses. Rudy looks the happiest in the pictures too.   Top

Me-Lissa 20 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 08-23-00, 05:15 PM (EST) 47. "Rich, Kelly, Sue, Rudy" woof! woof! <smirk> Games On!! Melissa   Top

AyatollahKhomeini 2008 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 08-24-00, 05:12 PM (EST) 50. "NO EXACT MATCHES" All of these picks, and NOT ONE person had the final order exactly right. Believe it or not, the same held true on ss.com, even though they had 3 times more picks. Kudos to MB and CBS. Giving credit where credit is due Dept. **************************************** Getting the final 2 right: 3 (in other words, picked Richard-Kelly-Sue-Rudy) 1. Rat Chef (with matching and correct analysis) 2. Little Bob (even though he posted the order backward) 3. Me-Lissa (thanks to Opening Sequence Circle Theory) **************************************** Getting the first two off right (meaning correct final matchup, but Kelly as winner): 2 1. the_alphabetizer (also good analysis) 2. snapphr24 **************************************** Congratulations to you 5 from the rest of us losers. One more honor: Most full of self-indulgent BS: 1. AyatollahKhomeini   Top

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