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SurvivaBear 2634 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 09-16-03, 09:09 PM (EST) "State of the Spoiling, Episode One" State of the Spoiling, Episode One Avast me hearties and welcome to another season of Survivor. The Evil Pirate Mark Burnett (EPMB) and his first mate Jiffy think they have surprises planned for us. Maybe they do, however, our adventure is to ruin these scurvy knaves' shockers before they are revealed. Let's see what we know so far. The Crews Drake: Rupert Boneham, a mentor for troubled teens, is 39 and hails from Indianapolis, IN. Shawn Cohen, who turns 29 on Sept. 20, works in advertising sales and lives in New York, NY. Jon Dalton, an art consultant, hails from Danville, VA and is 29 years old. Sandra Diaz-Twine, 29, an office assistant, is from Fort Lewis, WA. Christa Hastie is a 24-year-old computer programmer from Los Angeles. Trish Dunn, a 42-year-old sales executive, is from Annapolis, MD. Burton Roberts is a 31-year-old marketing executive from San Francisco. Michele Tesauro, from Pittstown, NJ, is a 22-year-old student. Morgan: Tijuana Bradley, 27, is from St. Louis, MO, and works in pharmaceutical sales Nicole Delma, who turns 26 on Sept. 19, is a massage therapist from Hermosa Beach, CA. Darrah Johnston is a 22-year-old mortician who lives in Liberty, MS. Lillian Morris, 51, is a scout troop leader who lives in Cincinnati, OH. Ryan Opray, an electrician, is 31 and lives in Los Gatos, CA. Andrew Savage is a 40-year-old attorney and lives in Chicago. Ryan Shoulders, hailing from Clarksville, TN, is a 23-year-old produce clerk. Osten Taylor, 27, is an equity trade manager from Boston. Public Knowledge The title for the first episode is Beg, Barter, Steal. Shiver me timbers! How'd you like to be invited to a fancy party aboard a schooner, only to be ordered shortly after arriving to walk the plank while wearing your finest duds? Well, that's what happens to the latest 16 castaways as the seventh season gets under way on the Pearl Islands off the coast of Panama. Executive producer Mark Burnett describes the players' reactions to the devilish twist he devised as “a combination of shock, horror and laughter.” After the deep-sea plunge, the two tribes, Morgan and Drake, swim to a village to buy supplies before traveling to their respective camps. The TV Guide Preview gives us a good bit of insight into the first episode (including the murder of a pelican). We have tons of video captures: VIDCAPS: 8/28 Access Hollywood segment VIDCAPS: 8/28 Extra TV segment VIDCAPS: 8/28 Inside Edition segment Early Show "Camp Life" VIDCAPS Early Show Challenge/Arrival vidcaps VIDCAPS: 8/28 Inside Edition segment – Part II VIDCAPS: 8/28 Extra TV segment – Part II VIDCAPS: 8/28 Entertainment Tonight segment VIDCAPS: "Only The Clothes On Their Backs" Commercial Of special note is what may be the immunity idol A picture of the idol at the Drake Camp And a picture of Ryan Shoulders at, it appears, the Tribal Council Short Term Spoilers Captain Krautboy has some excellent analysis of the Episode 1 Immunity Challenge. Suffice it to say, evidence points to a Drake win, sending Morgan to TC. We have reason to believe (due to the Accidental Tourist and Snewser's Scorecard among other sources) that Nicole may be the first bootee. The good Captain K further explores "What leads to Nicole's demise?" The conclusion is that she takes the "I'm pretty" approach and does not contribute much. Lastly, Captain K and crew reflect on what we should be looking for in Episode 1, based on the first episode of previous seasons. Long Term Spoilers Thanks to the Accidental Tourist, Wezzie and Quartzeye, and Snewser (among others), we have a good idea about who gets booted early (Nicole, Ryan S, Andrew, Jon, Rupert, and Sandra), who stays for a while, and who makes it toward the end (Christa, Tijuana, Burton, Osten, Trish, Lillian, and Darrah). It also appears that part of the twist of this season is that a Survivor contestant who has been voted out will be "raised from the dead" and get to come back into the game. The reasons for this resurrection are explored in this thread. First mate Jiffy has said that this season will include, "A big lie" that will lead to "regret". What that means is discussed here as well as here. I am sure I have missed a lot, since there is always a good deal of spoiling/speculation that goes on before the first episode. If you, my dear mates, come across things I have missed, please add them to this thread. Overall, I am very optimistic about this season. I believe the first episode is as spoiled as could be expected. If you are new to this board or this forum please read the Spoiler Forum Guidelines. This Forum has some specific customs and this thread will provide you with good information on how to maintain our traditions. SOTS is provided by SurvivorBlows.com as a service to our readers. The purpose of this post is to consolidate the threads in the Spoiler Forum pertaining to this week's episode. Feel free to reply to this post if you feel that a theory you support was not adequately represented in this message... Please use this thread for unified discussion of all topics as we approach the next episode. SigPic by PM, Inc, © 2003 Arggh!   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... survivorscott 09-16-03 1  Great Job! DataShark 09-16-03 2  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... volsfan 09-16-03 3  Thanks a lot Survivabear! mistofleas 09-16-03 4  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... Krautboy 09-16-03 5  great! SurvivorBlows 09-16-03 6  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... PepeLePew13 09-16-03 7  Fantastic!!!! anotherkim 09-17-03 8  Fantastic Bear bergdogg 09-17-03 9  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... smiley 09-17-03 10  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... VerucaSalt 09-17-03 11  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... Booted 09-17-03 12  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... Bebo 09-17-03 13  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... forehead 09-17-03 14  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... Brownroach 09-17-03 15    RE: SOTS #1, and Ryan "TC" photo princessoftides 09-17-03 16        RE: SOTS #1, and Ryan "TC" photo SurvivaBear 09-17-03 18            RE: SOTS #1, and Ryan "TC" photo princessoftides 09-17-03 20  Impressive moonbaby 09-17-03 17  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... TeamJoisey 09-17-03 19  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... tamarama 09-17-03 21  RE: State of the Spoiling ***SANDRA... InsiderInfo 09-17-03 22    RE: State of the Spoiling ***SANDRA... SurvivaBear 09-17-03 23        RE: State of the Spoiling ***SANDRA... InsiderInfo 09-17-03 25  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... tribalwatcher 09-17-03 24  RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode ... Silvergirl1 09-18-03 26

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survivorscott 2191 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 09-16-03, 09:26 PM (EST) 1. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" good job bear. The first one is always the hardest to do, because there is so much information out there. Come in a stranger,leave a little stranger   Top

DataShark 1395 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 09-16-03, 09:35 PM (EST) 2. "Great Job!" Thank you! I have been muddling around for a week and a half sorting all the spoiler info. You have accomplished a big task getting weeks of data into a concise format.   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-16-03, 09:44 PM (EST) 3. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Great job Bear! I started a notebook trying to keep it all in order...now you have it all linked! THANKS!   Top

mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-16-03, 10:07 PM (EST) 4. "Thanks a lot Survivabear!" First, thanks for putting everything in fabulous order and making me giggle. This makes getting all the info on the contestants so much easier. The first one is always the hardest. You rock! Second, thanks for setting the bar so damned high. I've got to do episode 2 and now I've got to live up to you! *pretend scowl* I won't let ya down darlin'! --runs off to start taking notes for next weeks SOTS   Top

Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 09-16-03, 10:13 PM (EST) 5. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" LAST EDITED ON 09-16-03 AT 10:17 PM (EST) Thanks Bear! You've set the bar high for SOTS quality! Nice job of organizing a very complex preseason of spoiling... (edited to add: I didn't realize Misto was next...sure glad it's not me! ) Krautboy   Top

SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-16-03, 10:53 PM (EST) 6. "great!" Great job SurvivaBear -- you've set the bar quite high for those who will follow. Very nice job... Thanks, SB   Top

PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-16-03, 11:06 PM (EST) 7. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Excellent job, S-Bear! You've really laid it out neatly and saved me a ton of work in organizing thoughts on who might be staying a while and who might be the early boots. I'll be bookmarking this thread to use as a reference for some time even after a few episodes have gone by. Thanks for doing this! Click here to rank all 96 Survivors! Heidi: My biggest assets to the tribe are my athletic skills and my intelligence. I've lost one of them. Jiffy: Which one?   Top

anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-17-03, 01:41 AM (EST) 8. "Fantastic!!!!" LAST EDITED ON 09-17-03 AT 01:56 AM (EST) Great work, SB! Thanks for laying it all out and together for us. WTG! Miscellaneous Ramblings --so, Survivor really does start this week, right? Whew. sleeeve...you're just a freaking laugh riot, hon .   Top

bergdogg 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 09-17-03, 03:26 AM (EST) 9. "Fantastic Bear" This will help me out a lot since I haven't paid much attention to Survivor lately. Great SotS!! Minnesota sports: Proving the underdogs can truly succeed!!!   Top

smiley 2009 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 09-17-03, 08:25 AM (EST) 10. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" thanks bear! I have been lax keeping up with the news since Cupid has been on BBAAWWAA LOL   Top

VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 09-17-03, 09:11 AM (EST) 11. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Boy, you sure know how to make me feel like a student learning from a teacher!! Nice job!!   Top

Booted 156 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 09-17-03, 09:22 AM (EST) 12. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" SurvivaBear: Wow! With everything going on how did you manage to bring it all together? Hard to believe but we may have had the best SOTS in the first week. Well done. Boot Ed   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-17-03, 10:27 AM (EST) 13. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Beho.heart.Bear. You are definitely smarter than the average bear, as shown by this spectacular SOTS. You summarized a lot of information quite succinctly, and provided a great synopsis in addition to loads of links. Thanks for such a terrific job! Fighting for evil (and neat forums) since 2002. Doug Ault'sbaseball statistics.   Top

forehead 932 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent" 09-17-03, 10:41 AM (EST) 14. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Excellent job! This year there was a lot of material to be included - great synthesis. Thanks, forehead   Top

Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-17-03, 10:51 AM (EST) 15. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Great work, Bear. I didn't envy you the task of pulling everything together for Ep 1. You did a complete, concise job. Kudos!   Top

princessoftides 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-17-03, 11:23 AM (EST) 16. "RE: SOTS #1, and Ryan "TC" photo" Awesome job, Bear - I can't imagine how many hours of combing that took!! One small thing - apparently the Ryan pic isn't at TC after all but at a pre-show publicity conference - based on an Australian promo and the fact that his face isn't sunburned, whereas in one of the pre-TC pix it is (see VerucaSalt & Krautboy's posts at http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/4016.shtml#5). Doesn't change anything significant, but I just happened to stumble on that & wanted to make sure everybody saw it.....   Top

SurvivaBear 2634 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 09-17-03, 12:32 PM (EST) 18. "RE: SOTS #1, and Ryan "TC" photo" Thanks Princess. I see post like yours as part of the purpose of this thread. A summary of the spoiling has been posted early, but as new info comes in we tweak the picture somewhat. SurvivaBear- "Arggh!"   Top

princessoftides 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 09-17-03, 01:29 PM (EST) 20. "RE: SOTS #1, and Ryan "TC" photo" *phew* I DID read the Forum Guidelines! (thanks for the link to them....trying to do my due diligence as a newbie....)   Top

moonbaby 17120 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-17-03, 11:54 AM (EST) 17. "Impressive" Nicely organized and comprehensive! Thanks for putting this together!   Top

TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 09-17-03, 01:23 PM (EST) 19. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Good work, Bear! The first one is always the tough one. But you've got it all there, and it's more than just links to other threads. After reading this, even Nicole's Mom has to be convinced. You have set the SOTS bar nice and high! I'm gonna cut and paste this in a few weeks... These reality show contestants need a reality check!   Top

tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser" 09-17-03, 03:06 PM (EST) 21. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Beautiful job!! Thank you! This is a great help to folks like me who've let the pre-season get away from me. You will make catching up much easier.   Top

InsiderInfo 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-17-03, 06:56 PM (EST) 22. "RE: State of the Spoiling ***SANDRA**" LAST EDITED ON 09-17-03 AT 07:29 PM (EST) Can you please tell me what evdence you have that Sandra will be booted early? I have only seen evidence supporting her success in the game. It now seems that Sandra is the Odds on Favorite at Intertops.com: http://www.intertops.com/sportsbook/cgi-win-2/itbframe.exe?qbtitle=AF;frameref=itbet.exe?scrncd=BO;sprtyp=CN Books as big as Intertops.com only change their odds from an opeing of 10/1 to what is now 4.5/1 when a large amount of money comes in on a particular castaway. Just thought I'd put that out there.   Top

SurvivaBear 2634 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 09-17-03, 09:11 PM (EST) 23. "RE: State of the Spoiling ***SANDRA**" It is based solely on Snewser's Scorecard. Generally, Snewser has inside information and if he makes a comment like, "Chirp: Hopefully she'll stick around long enough to provide some snarky drama," it is because he knows something. SurvivaBear- "Arrgh!"   Top

InsiderInfo 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 09-17-03, 09:51 PM (EST) 25. "RE: State of the Spoiling ***SANDRA***" Survivorbear, if Snewser really had inside info, don't you think all the books out there would have Darrah as the Odds on Favorite? I think he/she may be slightly misinformed if that is the case. My sources tell me that 100's of dollars (seems 100.00 is the max bet) have come in fast and furious from certain clients whom have successully picked Jenna/Matt, Brian and Vecepia in the last 3 Survivors. No, these are not CBS employees ut it is beleived that they have some type of connection/relationship to the network or the producition crew. I am aware of 2 online books that have removed Surivivor from their betting options as it has become too difficult to balance action and bookmanagers are already wondering if something is up. Lets face it, this show is taped and there are legitimate insiders out there that know who the winner is (or atleast the finalists). Strong sources are pointing towards Sandra. Maybe you will reconsider this after the merge when Sandra is still around. Just my 10 cents.   Top

tribalwatcher 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 09-17-03, 09:16 PM (EST) 24. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" Great job of organizing everything! You're so organized that I think you even explained it so I understand! Thanks so much, I know this is a lot of work.   Top

Silvergirl1 9342 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 09-18-03, 03:25 AM (EST) 26. "RE: State of the Spoiling, Episode One" You have done such a wonderful job setting up this information in such a well organized fashion. Thanks, Bear! I love your sig pic, too! {{{Bear Hugs}}} Silvergirl Looking forward to the show!   Top

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