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"Jeff Probst on Regis and Kelly"
Amily 88 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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09-11-03, 10:04 AM (EST)
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"Jeff Probst on Regis and Kelly" |
I saw Jeff on Regis and Kelly this morning. Not much new but he mentioned the two major events that happen this season (as already been discussed) - 1) biggest lie ever is by a contestant (not the show) and 2) a contestant has the biggest regret ever which leads to major implications for that contestant. They showed the opening sequence where Jeff tells everyone after the press conference that the show starts now. Kelly went on and on about women contestants' "augmentations" and Jeff agreed that the contestants who are the nicest to look at seem to go further in the game. Hope this wasn't a wasted thread!
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Amily 88 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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09-11-03, 12:55 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Jeff Probst on Regis and Kelly" |
Just to clarify, if I remember correctly, Jeff said this before he started talking about this season. I think he was just talking in general, that the "pretty people" seem to last longer - he was essentially agreeing with Kelly (or Regis - forgot who brought it up) on their observation. All in all, Jeff seemed to be very excited about this season (especially when talking about the big lie and big regret). He also said when asked which Survivor setting was the hardest, he said up until now, it was Africa. He mentioned that in the Pearl Islands is was very hot and they had a lot of rain.
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smrtNsassybnkr 332 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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09-11-03, 11:28 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Jeff Probst on Regis and Kelly" |
"I wonder if this is connected to the twist. "Major implications sounds pretty dire -- does the "regret" somehow cause the contestant to be put out of the game in order to bring back the prior bootee?" BR-- I was thinking along the same lines.....We've seen contestants "throw" challenges before. Perhaps in this particular challenge, the person who places LAST would be replaced by the prior bootee. If someone intentionally "threw" the challenge right away, would they not regret it if it caused them to be the one replaced???
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-11-03, 11:37 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Jeff Probst on Regis and Kelly" |
That was my early theory about the twist as well -- that the replaced contestant loses (perhaps intentionally) a reward challenge, and pays dearly for it.
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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09-11-03, 11:58 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Jeff Probst on Regis and Kelly" |
This was my immediate thought as well.We've been told that they will punish anyone who intentionally throws a challenge. Suppose there is a lie involved. Can they be forced to walk the plank for their mutiny? We've spoiled that someone re-enters the game. This person replaces the mutineer. Tribe remains the same size, no extra episodes or TC needed. It's a twist, it's a regret. My other thought is this: One of the contestants lied to the producers. The lie is discovered, the contestant is removed from the game, and a booted player returns.
It's a stretch to think that the producers haven't investigated every flea on each contestant. But perhaps they want some "French Davis" juice in the press, something to get all of America talking about Survivor again. Can they be hyping their own hype? These reality show contestants need a reality check!
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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09-11-03, 01:01 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Biggest Lie Ever" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-11-03 AT 01:02 PM (EST)Actual transcript from SS: Shot of ship, then of the contestants: JP: "Welcome guys to Survivor Pearl Islands. Game is ON. I know everybody here brought their suitcases, and you got alot more luggage downstairs. And it is true, in the past, Survivors have been allowed to go through their luggage and pick out a few essentials items. You guys wont have that luxury. You are going into this game with the clothes you have on your back." The only big revelation (for me) was this conversation:
JP:... "there are alot of things that play out. There is one of the greatest lies ever. It is a fantastic horrible lie." Kelly: "from a contestant or from you?" JP: " From a contestant..ya. And there is a HUGE regret, that somebody does that is impactful (difficult to hear last bit)." http://pub124.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm2.showMessage?topicID=16320.topic
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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09-11-03, 03:08 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Biggest Lie Ever" |
MOre from SS (same link as earlier)Regis asks: (rather cynically I might add) ".. so now tell me so what is different, ..so what is the shocking twist? JP replies: "Well, the cool thing about the way it started this time, is we for the first time we sort of set them up a little bit. In that we said that we have to do some press so wear something that you want to look good in. The guys were in Armani suits, the women are in sundresses. Regis: difficult to hear.. "they are already to meet the press then.." JP: "Yes, well they are on our boat, and we are gonna shoot some stuff, and some of the women look just like you...with heels and very NOT survivor clothing. So we do do some press, and then the show starts, and the twist is you are going how you are dressed. And we have some women who didnt have anything on underneath their sundresses that are strapless, and guys who are suits. And so the effect is that it ends up more like you are shipwrecked, you are going to have to cut these off to make shorts..." Kelly: "it is very Gilligan's Island!"... ack
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silentJ 336 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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09-11-03, 07:44 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Biggest Lie Ever" |
What gets me is the addition of the extra adjective "horrible". That indicates to me that it's of an appauling nature. Then ,the player regrets telling it. I'm thinking it's something along the lines of "My child has cancer and I want to win to cover their medical bills." If they drilled that into everyone elses head fromday one, I think it would get them to at least the merge on sympathy. Then, after getting into the dominate allience, they slip up. Maybe they get some booze at the merge party, someone asks about thier kid, and they say, "I don't have a kid". That would put them at the head of everyone's boot line.
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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09-11-03, 10:30 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Jeff Probst on Regis and Kelly" |
I'm not clear on whether the regret is the result of telling the lie or if the two are unrelated.If the two are related and the lie results in the boot of someone who is "innocent", the liar could feel regretful. If this lie results in the boot of the person who eventually returns, well, then things could get downright ugly. I'm thinking a Ghandi grinding incident or a Janet granola bar episode magnified to the nth degree.
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princessoftides 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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09-17-03, 10:22 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Possibly Jon?" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-03 AT 10:24 AM (EST)SMSB, my thoughts exactly. If Jeff really said "at least you could play that off as happening in your sleep", the implication is that this was an incident that might have been able to be "played off" that way, had it not been taken a step too far. The only non-physical/sexual thing I can think of that would fit that description is if somebody took something (food?) that wasn't sitting out in the open - e.g., if it had been out in the open, you might have been able to say you were sleepwalking, but since it was hidden.... But that strikes me as terribly farfetched, and doesn't capture the connotation that seems hidden between Jeff's words. The physical/sexual scenario makes MUCH more sense. It sounds like someone behaves inappropriately towards someone else, in a situation where it's very clear that it wasn't an accident. The obvious guess here is Jon... which makes me wonder - somebody earlier quoted "The Rules" as including a provision against assault. If this someone (Jon?) groped one of the women, might it get him kicked off for violating the rules, initiating the boot/resurrection twist discussed above?
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