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"Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
Hi! Hope I'm not being too much of a DAW and starting new (and possibly stupid) posts but Wezzie and Quartzeye have recently posted pictures of their post-S7 trip to Panama, including some of the inside of one of loser lodge cabins and some tribe boats with missing plugs, etc. They start on page 6 on this thread: http://pub124.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm2.showMessageRange?topicID=16229.topic&start=161&stop=180

However, one of the most interesting thing she said in following posts was this:

"On Quartzeye and my trip to Isla Contadora last week we were able to confirm that booted off players get back into the game. In fact, the 'older woman' is said to get back in 'a couple of times.' She's 'the strongest player' and 'the leader of her boat'. She comes back to Saboga at least twice to get supplies for her tribe.

CBS released the cast photos the day QE arrived in Panama City. She was able to print out the photos and show them to the local islanders that worked on the production. The 'older woman' is reportedly Trish."

Veddy interesting...
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 RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... ginger 09-08-03 1
 RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... KeithFan 09-08-03 2
 RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... bebekid 09-08-03 3
   RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... ginger 09-08-03 5
   RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... Brownroach 09-08-03 6
 RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... Brownroach 09-08-03 4
   RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... JazzyJax 09-08-03 7
   RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... ginger 09-08-03 8
       RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... VerucaSalt 09-08-03 9
           RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... ShowMeTheWinner 09-08-03 12
           RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... wendyp 09-09-03 16
               RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... ShowMeTheWinner 09-09-03 17
               RE: Wezzie pictures and return of t... forehead 09-09-03 18
       Just to clarify... Brownroach 09-08-03 10
           RE: Just to clarify... VerucaSalt 09-08-03 11
               RE: Penalty? JazzyJax 09-09-03 19
               RE: Just to clarify... Brownroach 09-09-03 20
                   RE: Just to clarify... AZ_Leo 09-09-03 21
                   RE: Just to clarify... Griffe 09-09-03 22
                       RE: Just to clarify... Brownroach 09-09-03 23
 Wezzie's Site bebekid 09-08-03 13
   RE: Wezzie's Site VerucaSalt 09-09-03 14
   RE: Wezzie's Site jkokoj 09-09-03 15
   RE: Wezzie's Site PepeLePew13 09-09-03 24
       What can I say, Pepe? bebekid 09-09-03 25
           RE: What can I say, Pepe? PepeLePew13 09-09-03 26
   RE: Wezzie's Site Wezzie 09-10-03 27
       RE: Wezzie's Site Krautboy 09-10-03 28
       RE: Wezzie's Site VolcanicGlass 09-10-03 29
       RE: Wezzie's Site PepeLePew13 09-10-03 30
       RE: Wezzie's Site Brownroach 09-10-03 31
       RE: Wezzie's Site JazzyJax 09-10-03 32
           RE: Wezzie's Site Wezzie 09-10-03 33
               More questions Brownroach 09-11-03 34
                   RE: More questions Wezzie 09-11-03 35

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ginger 22512 desperate attention whore postings
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09-08-03, 01:19 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
(Wincing at 42-year-old Trish being "older woman")-veddy veddy veddy interesting, but also a little alarming. When someone gets booted that I really want off I find it so satisfying; not sure I want the return option there. Especially after watching the debacle that is the end of Paradise Hotel, with its returning, bitter, infantile outcasts...thanks for the info, though.
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2. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
Returning players?!? (doing my best Sam Kinneson) AAAAAAAAA!! A! A! AAAAAAAA! AAAAA!

Please let this be the biggest mis-information! It's going to be a tough sell to hardcore Survivor fans.

Great heads up though! Thanks for the info. Maybe I WON'T feel bad about having to work Thursday nights now and relying on the gods of VHS.


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3. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
Hey JazzyJax!

I thought about posting this as well. I believe Wezzie said she would have a summary up on SurvivorFever later this week. So we can add that link to this thread when she does.

This is the thread that erikman said Wezzie reported that she thinks Darrah wins. She has since edited that part out. Not sure why. But peeps at Sucks are saying Wezzie and Quartzeye believe Osten would place third and Trish and Darrah are the final 2 and they favor Darrah to win.

erikman, can you confirm this?

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5. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
This would be a "twist" in that the boy-girl-boy-girl winner thing would finally be broken.

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6. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
Yes, and Erikman, Wezzie seems to have edited out info about Nicole as well -- something about the men being kept away from her and perhaps her getting naked, judging from two of the response posts. Can you elaborate on what that was about?


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4. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
I find it difficult to believe that Trish left and then returned to the game not just once, but "a couple of times." Quartzeye says later in the thread that they were told the same thing by different people, but also that the locals didn't know or care anything about Survivor.

Maybe if Trish won a couple of ICs, they interpreted it as getting back in the game each time, just because she couldn't get voted out.



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7. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
True Brownroach, but I am curious as to why twelve are sequestered at all? On islands that small I cannot imagine someone would not have a clue, especially since other Survivor editions have been previously filmed nearby.

I think this would actually be a great thing, as long as the bootee did not take the place of someone still in the game.

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8. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
Snewser hints that there are limitations on alcohol consumption and a workout regime at Loser Lounge because the pre-jury ejectees may compete for a return spot.

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9. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
With this and SNN and PanamaVacation we can at least see there is corraboration that

at LEAST one player returns to the game (and consensus is that it is "older woman")

Final three are a male and two women and the final two are two women older and younger.

There is some confusion as to the final three male b/c PV says he is bearded but there was talk that was mentioned in this thread about Osten but if he was the final three male, wouldn't you say a black man as opposed to a bearded man? That would be a better description I would think.

The LL is more like a holding tank b/c they are not given all the food and what have you b/c they are in a holding tank to potentially return to the game. This no doubt is the BIG TWIST for this season.

There has been mention either posted, posted/edited or just posted speculating that the end people could be Darrah, Osten, Trish, Michelle as well as info posted or posted/edit or whatever that the first couple booted were a young platinum/ashy female and tall, sickly male which could be Christa, Nicole, Ryan essentially.

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12. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
There is some confusion as to the final three male b/c PV says he is bearded but there was talk that was mentioned in this thread about Osten but if he was the final three male, wouldn't you say a black man as opposed to a bearded man? That would be a better description I would think.

This is my thoughts too. Why would they refer to him as a bearded man rather than a black man? I have no doubt that Osten makes it far because of the weight loss spoiler but I'm not convinced that he's Final 3. Is this the guesswork derived from the Final 3 "non-invisible ink" spoiler in SNews (Trish,Michelle,Osten)? I'm just a little puzzled as to why everyone (including TDT) is assuming Osten is Final 3.
I'm leaning towards Trish and Darrah/Michelle for Final 2 at this point. No guess for 3rd place yet.



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16. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
The refrence to Osten being the bearded man opposed to the black man. Remember alot of the people on the islands have dark tans/skin so Osten may not stand out to them as a black man. Also they said what everyone thinks as Ryan S as the tall sickly man not a tall white man. It just seems that they are not describing any of the people as white or black.

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17. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
I would think that the source would describe Osten as a black man because the source would compare Osten to the other contestants on the show as opposed to the people of Panama. If Survivor was a Chinese production and all the contestants were Chinese with the exception of one white guy, I'd certainly describe the white guy as the white guy and not a "bearded man". I'd definitely use the other contestants as my point of referance. Oh well... maybe the source didn't want to appear racist.


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09-09-03, 11:36 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Wezzie pictures and return of the bootees"
I think both VerucaSalt and wendyp make good points. If there are 3 men left late in the game, one of them Osten, you'd think the black man reference would be an obvious one.

On the other hand, if there are 2 men left late in the game, one of them Osten and the other a recent RC winner who got to shave, then the bearded one would also be a likely reference.

Combine the different scenarios with the fact that this is second hand info of locals who may not have a great understanding of the game, I'll keep this piece of info in mind, without drawing any conclusions yet.

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10. "Just to clarify..."
I believe the info revealed in the SNN article that one person returns to the game after being booted initially. But I find it hard to believe that it would happen "a couple of times" to the same person.


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11. "RE: Just to clarify..."
Right BR. This "could" be an error made in just the wording; I'm not sure but we can kind of at LEAST one person returns due to SNN and Wezz/QE's statement. Personally I don't like it and much less if more than one.
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19. "RE: Penalty?"
LAST EDITED ON 09-09-03 AT 11:58 AM (EST)

I wonder if this has more to do with not getting a "penalty" when winning RC. Perhaps the winners get to add to their stash at the village?

Edited to correct spelling...

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20. "RE: Just to clarify..."
Any reshuffling of contestants has to stop after Ep 8, I expect. The person voted out at the end of Ep 8 will be the first jury member, and I doubt MB won't honor the tradition that all contestants still in play at that juncture will at least be on the jury.

However, since the actual jury formation starts at the Ep 8 TC, there could be an exchange early in Ep 8 to bring back a bootee and dump someone who would have been an automatic juror in prior installments.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if we get any more clues about multiple return bootees. JazzyJax's observation about the 12 cabins is germane. The SNN spoiler says the pre-jury boots were moved out when it was time for the jurors to start arriving, so theoretically they needed only 7 cabins. Why did they build 12?


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21. "RE: Just to clarify..."
They wouldn't have just the bootees on that island. The extra cabins could be for production staff supporting the contestants.
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22. "RE: Just to clarify..."
LAST EDITED ON 09-10-03 AT 04:17 AM (EST)

Brownroach, they would need more than just 7 cabins as the booted players aren't there alone...They had handlers to take care of them.

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23. "RE: Just to clarify..."
I figured they'd have some production personnel there too, Griffe, but the cabins all look pretty identical from the overhead shots. It seemed more plausible that they would build one or two larger, more fitted-out structures to house the staff. But maybe not.



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13. "Wezzie's Site"
LAST EDITED ON 09-08-03 AT 06:55 PM (EST)

She has her Panama pictures up on her site:

http://www.survivorwezzie.com/

What's her story, anyway? I guess Bob is her husband? He is a urologist. That might explain Wezzie's apparent free time and funds to take these trips. Wow. Good for her and us!


edited to say: BTW, where is Krautboy? Only 10 days to the premiere. Krautboy, we need you!

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14. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
This was a pretty short trip from what I could tell from the posts and she and Dan Bollinger have been doing their Survivor Maps forever so I guess her next calling was to actually go to one of the places. I would love to have done that (I think)
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15. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
From what I have read and seen of Wezzie in the past 2 years is that Survivor is her passion and her hobby. She likes to travel to the places where Survivor has been filmed. It does appear that she must have some money in order to do this.

Wezzie's insights have always been fun to read. I wish I were able to do the things she has done. Really would make life a lot more fun, and a good way to be a spoiler!LOL

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24. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
>edited to say: BTW, where is Krautboy? Only 10 days
>to the premiere. Krautboy, we need you!

Not only did you unearth the potential spoiler of the season with Darrah, but you apparently have uncanny timing and/or a magic connection that Krautboy picked up on as he got back here only a few hours after you posted this!


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25. "What can I say, Pepe?"
I seem to have the touch this season!

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26. "RE: What can I say, Pepe?"
Pssst, think you can help me out with the NFL picks? I really do need some extra cash to help pay for the huge daycare bills and other things...


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27. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
Hi. It's Wezzie. Phoenix gave this site great reviews, so I thought I'd check it out...and found this thread.

btw, I totally forgot to put the photos of the Loser Lodges on my website. I should give them to VGlass for her gallery, I guess. Each cabin had two queen (or double..I don't know for sure) beds in it, a closet a toilet,sink and really big shower. I'm guessing that one survivor and their handler stayed in each cabin. They said there were 12, but we counted 12 with a wooden roof and netting and one with a tile roof. There was also a single cabin on a nearby island, but two people said that Survivor didn't use it. There was an outdoor kitchen and a nice dining area. It's possible that the island's caretaker and the kitchen staff stayed on the island....but I don't know for sure. The sewer pipes from the cabins go directly into the sea, which is pissing off everyone in the area. At least it's survivor poop.Apparently the survivors snorkeled, swam and rowed boats during the day.

If you have questions, ask away.

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28. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
Hi Wezzie! It's nice to have a celebrity visit!! Hope you'll stop by from time to time. Lot's of good people here...


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29. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
LAST EDITED ON 09-10-03 AT 03:35 AM (EST)

Hi Wezzie -

I uploaded some of your pictures here. Thanks!

I am confused about the number of houses on Perico... You had originally posted that it was 11 houses + another one that was different. Just want to double check that it really is 12 houses on Perico ... It's hard to tell from that amazing overhead shot.

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30. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
Welcome, Wezzie! Great to have you here!

Any idea how much interaction the Survivors were allowed to have on Loser Lodge? Were they able to talk freely or always had someone nearby to tell them what they couldn't talk about, etc? Dunno if you'd get that kind of info from these people in the area...


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31. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
Thanks for visiting, Wezzie. The pictures are phenomenal!


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32. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
Wow! Thanks for stopping by Wezzie! A celebrity indeed! The pictures are great, what a cool trip.

Two beds per cabin, also veddy interesting. Way too small and cramped for just the production crew I would think. They were snorkeling in their own sewer area? Yuk.

Anyhow, how much interaction did you have with the locals? Taken as a whole, there seems to be more Survivor sightings from the locals than just the one market trip. Since it sounded like there was pretty good boating restrictions around the islands, it seems as if the Survivors were allowed to roam a bit more than usual during the game.

Thanks!

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33. "RE: Wezzie's Site"
Thanks everyone, for the welcome.

The cabins.. We took two trips around the island, one of which included going into one of the cabins. BTW, we had full permission from the hotel to do this. The Hotel Contadora, the Hotel Punta Galeon and the Perico cabins are all owned by the same Colombian family. We got permission to see the cabins, so everything was on the up and up.

Anyway, when we sailed around the island, I think we counted 12 wooden roofs and one tile roof. (The owners intended to do all the cabins with tile roofs, but found that the rooms got too hot, so the rest have wooden or composite roofs. They had netting with fake leaves on them - camoflage type netting - so I couldn't tell.) But when we were on the island, we asked the caretaker how many cabins there were, and he said 12. Let's use his number.

The arial photo is great. Hubby Bob was clicking away during the short flight from Panama City to Contadora. As we flew over the Pearl Islands he took photos of two little islands during our approach onto Contadora. Just coincidently, the islands he snapped were Saboga and Perico. Good fortune for spoilers, huh.

The contestants were kept away from the locals. Most people said that they never saw any contestants. SEG was careful this time, but not careful enough apparently. Locals saw the contestants leaving on Aeroperlas. The airport is just outside the lobby of the Punta Galeon.... meeting the plane is a big event during the day for the local business owners.

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09-11-03, 11:28 AM (EST)
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34. "More questions"
Thanks for the details, Wezzie.

Couple more questions:

We heard that Shawn and Jon are the last people to leave Isla Contadora on a plane. (Their photos were pointed at.)

and

Locals saw the contestants leaving on Aeroperlas.

I'm curious about this. It suggest Jon and Shawn might be the last pre-jury boots to be removed from Loser Lodge. Do you know approximately when they left Contadora? And were people leaving on different planes at different times?

Also, did you get any sense if the early bootees were allowed additional clothing once they got to Isla Perico? It looks like there were no closets in the cabins.

Thanks again!


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35. "RE: More questions"
Oops..good point. I should have asked WHEN they left on the plane. I assumed he meant at the end of filming, but possibly that's not right. Sorry.

The cabins had nice closets. I had to be a little coy about taking photos, so I didn't catch everything. QE was taking photos too, maybe she got something more.

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