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"The Iron Chef"
Are there any Food Network, Iron Chef fans out there? If so, would anyone care to chat about the show? I have to sign off for now because the show is on. Food challenges make me so hungry!

Fishing for an answer....
Red Lady

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 RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-27-02 1
   RE: The Iron Chef Red Lady 07-27-02 2
       RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-27-02 3
           RE: The Iron Chef bacon 07-27-02 4
               RE: The Iron Chef Red Lady 07-28-02 5
                   RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-28-02 6
                       RE: The Iron Chef Red Lady 07-28-02 7
                           RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-28-02 8
                               RE: The Iron Chef Red Lady 07-28-02 9
                                   RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-29-02 10
                   RE: The Iron Chef survivorscott 08-25-02 46
       RE: The Iron Chef starshyn99 07-30-02 18
           RE: The Iron Chef Red Lady 07-30-02 19
           RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-30-02 20
 RE: The Iron Chef herekittykitty 07-29-02 11
   RE: The Iron Chef Red Lady 07-29-02 14
 RE: The Iron Chef Bebo 07-29-02 12
   RE: The Iron Chef Red Lady 07-29-02 13
       RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-30-02 15
           RE: The Iron Chef Bebo 07-30-02 16
               RE: The Iron Chef mistofleas 07-30-02 17
                   RE: The Iron Chef SurvivinDawg 07-31-02 21
                       RE: The Iron Chef mistofleas 07-31-02 22
 Favorite Contestant SurvivinDawg 08-01-02 23
   RE: Favorite Contestant weltek 08-01-02 24
       Bobby Flay Red Lady 08-01-02 25
           RE: Bobby Flay mistofleas 08-01-02 26
               RE: Bobby Flay Red Lady 08-01-02 27
           RE: Bobby Flay SurvivinDawg 08-02-02 29
               RE: Bobby Flay Red Lady 08-02-02 30
 RE: The Iron Chef Efjendar 08-02-02 28
   Japanese Girl's Festival! Red Lady 08-04-02 33
       RE: Japanese Girl's Festival! SurvivinDawg 08-04-02 34
           RE: Japanese Girl's Festival! Red Lady 08-04-02 35
               RE: Japanese Girl's Festival! SurvivinDawg 08-04-02 36
 Book Quote Red Lady 08-02-02 31
   RE: Book Quote SurvivinDawg 08-03-02 32
 Bang the gong..the heat is on! Red Lady 08-23-02 37
   France battles SurvivinDawg 08-23-02 38
       RE: France battles Bebo 08-24-02 39
           RE: France battles SurvivinDawg 08-24-02 41
 RE: The Iron Chef NightScribe 08-24-02 40
 Iron Chef v. BB3 Red Lady 08-25-02 42
   RE: Iron Chef v. BB3 SurvivinDawg 08-25-02 43
       RE: Iron Chef v. BB3 Red Lady 08-25-02 44
           RE: Iron Chef v. BB3 SurvivinDawg 08-25-02 48
               A new thread Red Lady 08-26-02 49
                   RE: A new thread SurvivinDawg 08-26-02 50
 who would you like to see on the sh... survivorscott 08-25-02 45
   RE: who would you like to see on th... SurvivinDawg 08-25-02 47
       RE: who would you like to see on th... Bebo 08-26-02 51
           RE: who would you like to see on th... SurvivinDawg 08-26-02 52
 Bang a gong...letZZ get it on Jizzy 08-26-02 53
   RE: Bang a gong...letZZ get it on SurvivinDawg 08-26-02 54
   RE: Bang a gong...letZZ get it on Red Lady 08-26-02 55

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1. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Are there Iron Chef fans here? Why, I've only mentioned Iron Chef in every summary I've done, and even posted a thresd showing Evil Bert's attempt to foist mayhem on the show!

Also, I'm still making plans to kidnap George Tirebiter for a Road Trip to Morimoto's restaurant in Philly. Everyone else would be invited, too.

Yes, we can chat.

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2. "RE: The Iron Chef"
How cool! I wish I lived closer so I could tag along. Promise to tell us about the experience when you're done. BTW, have you ever caught the horrible copy-cat American Iron Chef special w/ William Shatner as "Chairman" live from Las Vegas?! It was outrageously bad...and not bad in a good way.

The Iron Chef is on again tonight on the West Coast at 7:00pm

Sushi = happy tummy
Red Lady

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3. "RE: The Iron Chef"
IC comes on Fridays at 10pm and 1am (Eastern time), Saturday 10pm and 1am, and Sundays at 7pm. They also have specials from time to time like the July 4th replay of the First Battles of the 21st Century (funny how the Japanese got it right that 2001 is the first year of the 21st century, but the Mainstream Media in this country could not get it right and said (incorrectly) that 2000 was the first year of the 21st century).

"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo

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4. "RE: The Iron Chef"
The Iron Chef makes you hungry? If anything this show makes me sick. I have to admit it's a guilty pleasure. How can anyone not enjoy the horrible dubbing, and giggling female judges? Still, i wouldn't taste test that food if you paid me. I'd rather eat at Rax than eat Eel Balls.
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5. "RE: The Iron Chef"
I'm not sure where you're from or how old you are. But Red Lady is one of those "wacko", over-40 Californians that will do anything and eat anything (It's the cheese, man)
...even "yuck" RAW FISH I say: YUMMMM! You say: YUCCCKK! If you are at least 4 decades in age and are still repulsed...oh well. But if you are under, then give it time. Food this great will grow on you.

The bad dubbing of the panel (giggling girl especially) and the overacting on "The Chairman's" part are definitely the BEST! Also, the polite way the floor commentator will interupt "excusa-san" (excuse me, please) and the way the judges describe the food in such poetic terms...I must say that besides RealityTV, The Iron Chef is my favorite show!

I just hate the reruns!
Regards,
Red Lady

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6. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Ohta, the floor commentator, always interrupts with "Fujii-san!" (or whatever the main announcer's name is). He does this to tell the ingredients being used so that the commentators can talk about it.

Ohta also gets interviews with guests from time to time.

I like the Japanese culture that flows through this program, from the competition angle of it to the Japanese and Chinese (real Chinese) ingredients used, etc.

Chairman Kaga overacting? No! Say it ain't so!

"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo

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7. "RE: The Iron Chef"
But do you think The Chairman is legit? Did he really use HIS vast financial resources to create kitchen stadium--or is it completely, totally "Hollywood conquers Japan" (kinda like a bad Godzilla movie, except in reverse...Arghhh, Hollywood-illa is after us! Ahhhhh...)

Red Lady

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8. "RE: The Iron Chef"
I suspect it's a little of both. Chairman Kaga was an actor in Japan (and a good one, from what I understand). I think he got some financial help for the Gourmet Academy, since they really go all out on food quality, flying Morimoto in from the USA and Kobe in from Milan, etc. Commentator Dr. Hattori's Nutrition College provides some help, like the assistant chefs, also.

Kandagawa, whose "Ohta faction" (no relation to floor reporter Ohta) is out for Morimoto, is probably involved, and is at least a good friend of the producer.

"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo

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9. "RE: The Iron Chef"
You definitely know your stuff, SurvivinDawg! I'm impressed. Do you cook as well or do you prefer tasting others' cooking? I, myself, go through periods where I cook and create what I might classify as "Tin Chef" level But mostly, it's every man for themselves in the kitchen!

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10. "RE: The Iron Chef"
I do a little cooking (I guess I could be "Iron Chef Hamburger" ), and sometimes IC inspires me to try some new things. I definitely like trying new dishes, although I need to slow that down and lose some weight . But I can cook if I need to, to impress that special lady, etc.

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46. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Why is it that everyone gets dubbed into english EXCEPT Chairman Kaaga? He is always subtitled.

Come in a stranger,leave a little stranger
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18. "RE: The Iron Chef"
I saw it and it was probably the saddest thing that I have ever seen in my life! William Shatner was SO BAD!! It was so bad it was funny if you know what I mean.

I kept wondering what they were making Willy sniff in order to act like that. TOO FUNNY!

Have you ever seen the SNL parody? The secret ingredient was Eel Farts. I couldn't breath it was so funny.

But seriously, I love the Iron Chef. Expecially the ones where the rival cooking school (I cannot remember the name) gets all crazy about challenging the Chef Japanese, with a drum and cheering section.

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19. "RE: The Iron Chef"
"Have you ever seen the SNL parody? The secret ingredient was Eel Farts. I couldn't breath it was so funny."

Oh man, I watch SNL all the time, but I haven't seen that one! Eel farts?! OMG how funny is that?! Was Will Ferrell part of the skit? I am so gonna miss Will next season!

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20. "RE: The Iron Chef"
The rival cooking school is known as the "Ohta Faction" after their leader, a guy named (you guessed it) Ohta. No relation to the Floor Announcer Ohta, so we've been told. Kandagawa-san is their mentor and main cheerleader. As I said in another post, Kandagawa-san is an outstanding chef in his own right and a good friend of the show's producers. He's been involved with it almost forever.

The Ohta Faction has been challenging Morimoto's neo-Japanese, international style of cooking, saying he's strayed from true Japanese cooking. Yes, they've brought a drum in on occasion, probably to mask the fact that Morimoto has been beating them like a drum. Morimoto is imaginative, but his dishes obviously taste good, as the judges seem to inhale them.

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11. "RE: The Iron Chef"
and tonight's special ingredient FISH!

yummy!

hum - what a nice big birdie


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14. "RE: The Iron Chef"
"yummy! hum - what a nice big birdie"
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Now, be nice HereKittyKitty! Red Lady has a kitty at home who co-habitates quite nicely w/ our Pink Flamingos (the plastic variety, I guess I should mention).


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12. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Woohoo! Iron Chef! Was bummed this weekend when I tuned in and it was one I'd seen recently (the sushi battle).

Mr. Bebo and I get hungry when we watch - one episode, we ended up making a bunch of hot wings to get through it!

This little light of mine...I'm gonna let it shine!

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13. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Oh I know, Bebo! My husband and I always make sure to have food in front of us to nibble on while the chefs are working their magic. We had the same sushi rerun this weekend--it's never as much fun to watch a rerun! The Friday night show was UNI which I simply despise! It was the one show I just couldn't "stomach" Even the Iron Chef couldn't make UNI appealing to me!

But, of course, I still watched the entire show--I'm so hooked!

Regards,
Red Lady


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15. "RE: The Iron Chef"
The sea urchin roe battle (umi or uni or whatever they're calling it) was interesting because the Zagets were judging, and they were funny to watch... yes, I'm not laughing with them, I'm laughing AT them...

"Pappy didn't get voted off, he got stoned!" -- dabo

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16. "RE: The Iron Chef"
>yes, I'm not laughing with them, I'm laughing AT them...

You too, huh? We were howling!

This little light of mine...I'm gonna let it shine!

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17. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Ahhh....Iron Chef! I have to admit to my passion for this show, my total crush on Chen-san and a mad desire to raid Chairman Kaga's closet!

When they had the IC marathon last year I taped the entire thing. I have 24 hours of IC in which I can indulge. I think one of my absolute favorite battle is the octopus battle. Kobe taking that wriggling mass of muscle and bashing it with a daikon radish to "tenderize" the meat! He's so darned little I expected the creature to attack and eat him whole!

I saw the milk battle this weekend with Chen-san. The young female and Dr. Hattori were having a great time trying to out do each other on their guesses as to what each dish would be and she seemed so flabbergasted with the milk actually turning into cheese! *gasp* "I just can't imagine that the liquid that he started with, turned into something so...so solid! *hee hee*".

Ahhh....now I am hungry!
--has gotten many good ideas from IronChef

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21. "RE: The Iron Chef"
I think that young actress was soundly showing up Dr. Hattori-san! Sometimes he has good shows, and sometimes he's off his game. But hey! he's competed in Kitchen Stadium as well as commentated, so he's cool in my book.

Your Iron Dawg,

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22. "RE: The Iron Chef"
I have always liked Hattori. He's got a funny sense of humor and sometimes he gets in a good one on the guest and it goes right over there heads! The other night one of the women was making a comment about the challenger cutting bacon from a very large slab. She was just going on and on about having never seen bacon in that form. Hattori in a very sarcastic tone said "Reeeeally? Well, you do know that this is where the bacon "strips" come from right?". It was too funny!

Little sideline Ohta is still my favorite of the non Iron Chefs and I will always love Chen-san!

--is now totally hungry for something made by Kobe

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23. "Favorite Contestant"
This started as a reply to MistoFleas, but I figured I better get it out here before it gets indented too far...

Who is your favorite contestant (challenger)?

Mine was the lady who does the Japanese TV cooking show. I can't remember her name (no coffee yet this morning), but she came into Kitchen Stadium all happy and talking. When Chairman Kaga asked which Iron Chef she wanted to challenge, she said "It doesn't matter." Taken aback, the Chairman said "You don't care which one?" and she replied "No, they're all Iron Chefs!". So she let Chairman Kaga select one (and he chose Chen).

During the battle, she just talked away to the camera (do you think she was going to use the footage for her own show?) and pounded out SEVEN good dishes in the hour. And they were good dishes, too. She won fairly handily.

I figured if they ever have an "Iron Chef HomeCooking", they should get her to be it... I'd love watching her cook again.

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I agree Dawg, she was a hoot! So mellow and just happy to be there. Chairman Kaga was thrown for a loop when she let him pick. Most of the other challengers are kind of homogenous. The whole milk battle this weekend was funny to watch. I guess coming from Wisconsin, I just don't share in the amazement!

Anyway, I'm surprised no one has brought up the famous Bobby Flay battles. So what's the vote...were you happy Bobby won the second one or did you think he acted like an a@@? I thought the judges were the highlight of that show. Sumo guy was hilarious!

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25. "Bobby Flay"
I was gonna respond to Dawg's question earlier w/ Bobby Flay...but I could not remember his last name and Dawg is so gawd-darn knowledgeable on his Iron Chef trivia, that I felt somewhat intimidated!!! (j/k, Dawg)

The Bobby Battle was my favorite, too! It was fun to hear some un-dubbed English. Bobby felt cheated the first time due to some kitchen malfunctions (shocked!, not in our Kitchen Stadium!?) and was given a second chance to prove his stuff. Didn't something else go awry during his 2nd battle as well...I don't remember exactly! Dawg?

Red Lady

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26. "RE: Bobby Flay"
I got icky knots in my tummy watching the Iron Chef in New York battle. Bobby Flay (who I've never really liked anyway) was being such an ass and a crybaby. Now okay, there was a problem with the set up and he kept getting shocked by when he touched the stove (water had gotten spilled). They put down rubber mat and he was fine. Then at the end of the battle when he stood up on the counter...what a jerk! I was happy that the Zagat people agreed that Morimoto won that battle soundly.

Then..when Bobby went to Japan to compete again, there was a problem with the ovens on Bobby's side (they weren't heating properly), so of course he was whining again. Personally I think he won because Kaga didn't want to lose his American audience.

I remember the woman that Dawg is talking about. She made her famous roast and potatoes and won everyones hearts (and tummy's). Later her son came on as a challenger. She was in the VIP box shouting out encouragement and instructions. At the last minute, her son decided to make her roast and potates and she kept yelling "stop, you don't know what you're doing!!". It was hysterical and great.

Love me that Iron Chef!

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27. "RE: Bobby Flay"
I, too, was shocked when Bobby actually stood on the countertop. It seemed awfully disrespectful of the Japanese culture. Of course, he did portray beautifully "the ugly American" stereotype!

Who was the Canadian chef that was recently on? He was a real fan of the show and knew he wanted to be a contender the first time he was able to pick up the broadcast in Canada (courtesy of USA). He was so polite and respectful of the Iron Chef competition. I really admired him for that. The Iron Chef is serious business, as all us fans can attest!

Regards Misto,
Red Lady

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29. "RE: Bobby Flay"
LAST EDITED ON 08-02-02 AT 12:12 PM (EST)

I was gonna respond to Dawg's question earlier w/ Bobby Flay...but I could not remember his last name and Dawg is so gawd-darn knowledgeable on his Iron Chef trivia, that I felt somewhat intimidated!!! (j/k, Dawg)

*groan* I get in trouble for things like this, ya know! (the intimidation factor)

But just to reply to the various Flay/Morimoto rematch questions:
1) I was rooting for Morimoto against Flay, I wish Flay would stop whining.
2) The sumo wrestler was Akebono, an American, and the first non-Japanese ever to win the title of Yokozuna, or Grand Champion, of sumo. At first, the Japanese vilified him for being an American, but he overcame and then became something of a celebrity. He's retired, but something of a celebrity still. In the Nagano Winter Olympics, sumo wrestlers (and little kids) escorted athletes into the stadium on opening day. Akebono was very proud and happy (and maybe just a little showing-up to the Japanese crowd) to lead the American contingent, waving a small American flag and carrying the little kid.
3) Flay won the second contest handily, but there were loud grumblings that the fix was in. One of the FIVE judges, the American Consulate General (I think, he was a U.S. diplomatic official, fer sure), said that the tasters could hardly taste Morimoto's food after eating Flay's spicy stuff. Akebono was also a judge, and talked to Flay in English, so there was a rapport there that went beyond food.

But I'm not worried about that, Flay DID do well in the second contest, and it was fun to watch.

4) In the first battle, Flay was a little over the top with the cutting board. The second time, he threw the cutting board to his fans and just stood on the counter. I think he was trying to make something of a joke out of it, but, not realizing Japanese culture, it didn't go over. I also think Morimoto was making a lot of it for the camera just to increase the drama, especially the second time. (Don't get me wrong, Morimoto WAS ticked off the first time in NYC).

5) As to something not working in Kitchen Stadium, I got the feeling Flay was just setting up an excuse in case he lost. I think the heaters worked fine, just not as quickly as American heaters. Patience, Bobby, patience!!!

6) I never saw the battle with the lady chef's son (or didn't realize I was seeing it). But I hope they'll show it soon so I can watch it.

7) They showed the Canadian chef episode recently. I think he was a French-style chef, but they kept trying to interject Canada into it, as if Canadian style cooking was some completely different genre. Nothing against Canada, mind you, but French-style chefs are generally the same, from Sakai-san to this Canadian, to Joel Robuchon (sp?), and injecting Canada into it just didn't seem right, ifyouknowwhutImean.

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30. "RE: Bobby Flay"
"They showed the Canadian chef episode recently. I think
he was a French-style chef, but they kept trying to interject Canada into it, as if Canadian style cooking was some completely different genre."

Number 1, I can't believe you, Dawg, of all people do not know the name of the Canadian chef! (RL is *shocked* to learn that Dawg is actually HUMAN! ah, gasp)

Doesn't pouring maple syrup over your finished creations count as an example of the fine culinary cuisine in Canada?

Wasn't this also the episode where the chef built some strange tower that required engineers to help construct!

Iron Chef is on tonight...but alas it's the rerun of Pike Conger. Bummer. I'm ready for a new season to begin!

Bang the gong, the heat is on!

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28. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Hey, I really love this show, too. I hate not having cable, because I don't get to see it. I watch when I can at my brother's house but he doesn't seem to enjoy it as much. Sometimes they have the undubbed version on one of the regular channels but I always seem to come in on the tail end of it. The food always looks delicious no matter what the secret ingredient is.

Bobby Flay is a moron. Does he stand on the cutting board in his own restaurant? I wouldn't want to dine there.

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33. "Japanese Girl's Festival!"
The Girl's Festival in Japan was highlighted tonight. I'm sure it was a rerun, but I had not seen it. Kondo was the challenger and Sakai the Iron Chef. Believe it or not, the Chairman announced there would be NO special food highlighted! It was a free for all!

The guest panel was all female, the youngest was only 17. So much giggling! The dubbing was especially funny this time. "Oohh, look at the ice cream go round & round!" All the girls giggle simultaneously. It was definitely a classic!

I'm such an Iron Chef freak!

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34. "RE: Japanese Girl's Festival!"
Yes, the Girls Festival was fun. I had not seen this episode.

Ready for our Japanese history lesson?

Kamakura, where Kondo the challenger was from, is an important and ancient city in Japan. In Clavelle's Shogun, he called Toranaga's territory the "Kwanto". The real name for the "Kwanto" was simply the "Kanto", the Eight Provinces. Kamakura was the capital city of the Kanto for many years, until the Tokugawa Shogunate moved to a fishing village called Edo (now a little fishing village called "Tokyo"). Kamakura is an important crossroads and junction, with roads going out in every direction.

Also, the Japanese capital used to be Kyoto, where the Emperor and Family stayed for hundreds of years. Again, the Tokugawa Shogunate intervened, bringing the Person of the Emperor to Edo for "safekeeping". Thus Edo (now Tokyo) became the national capital.

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35. "RE: Japanese Girl's Festival!"
Domo, Dawg! I'm going to be one smart puppy if I keep hanging around you!

Since you are obviously into history and Japan...have you read "Memoirs of a Geisha", by Arthur Golden? Another example of fiction melding with historical events. Right after I finished reading the book, the Iron Chef aired a show using a highly respected chef from Kyoto. In the book, the protagonist is a geisha in the Kyoto district which was renowned for its masterful restaurants and upscale tea houses (where the geishas entertain).

Regards,

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36. "RE: Japanese Girl's Festival!"
I haven't read that book, but I'll look out for it. Thanks for the recommendation!

P.S. Shouldn't you be saying "arigato" instead of "domo", Red Lady?!?! (Just Kidding!)

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31. "Book Quote"
I am reading "Shogun" inbetween posting on these boards, and I came across a relevant passage to our Iron Chef discussion.

Captain Blackthorne is an Englishman who sailed to Japan in the 1600's. He has just introduced the concept of eating meat to his non-meat eating Japanese hosts who recoil in horror at the thought.

"Your food's just as strange, he wanted to say. What about yesterday, the raw squid--white, slimy, almost tasteless chewy meat with nothing but soya sauce to wash it down? Or the chopped octopus tentacles, again raw, with cold rice and seaweed? How about fresh jellyfish with yellow-brown, souped tofu--fermented beancurds--that looked like a bowl of dog puke? Oh yes, served beautifully in a fragile, attractive bowl, but still looking like puke! Yes, by God, enough to make any man sick!"

Domo!


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32. "RE: Book Quote"
I've read Shogun by James Clavelle so many times that I halfway know it by heart. I've gotten a lot of good lines from there ("I'd be a worm wriggling in the dust."), and it's a fairly accurate portrayal of Japan in the 1500-1600's.

It's also based (loosely) on reality in that Toranaga was in reality Tokugawa Iesume (forgive me when I missspell these names), who won the Battle of Sekigahara (a real battle in a real town of Sekigahara in the year 1600 A.D.) and became the first of the Tokugawa Shogunate, which lasted until the mid-1850s. IMVHO, Sekigahara was one of the 10 most important battles fought on the face of the Earth (among the others: The Battle of Tours, where Charlemagne turned back the Moors, The D-Day Invasion of 6 June 1944, Saratoga in the American Revolution (this caused the French to enter the war on the American side), The Armada, and The Second Carthagenian War).

There was a real English sailor named (I think) William Adams, who was the model for the novel's John Blackthorne. Some names and sequences were changed to protect the guilty, but his story is almost real: Adams was made a samurai by Tokagawa, not for saving his life, but so Adams could marry a Japanese samurai lady.

You can read all this on the Internet, btw., so don't feel intimidated by my knowledge.

As to the food, the Japanese indeed waste very little food, eating many vegetables that we don't see much of, including soy and some beans. Also, they use all parts of the fish (especially things like the liver and roe), which was (and is) their main meat diet. They did (and do) not limit themselves to scaly fish, either, eating shark, octopus and squid, not to mention seaweed, etc. They do eat their food cooked far less (i.e. more raw) than most Americans find palatable. They use strong spices and pickling flavors on their foods, also. It's good, but you have to get used to it.

Sake has a flavor that (IMHO) must become an acquired taste, as well.

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37. "Bang the gong..the heat is on!"
LAST EDITED ON 08-23-02 AT 11:21 PM (EST)

After watching the exciting tie battle between Sommelier Corby v. Chinese Iron Chef Chen...I just had to ^bump^ this thread!

I know that Survivin'Dawg is interested in renewing this thread (because we have actually "hijacked" his own BB3 threads to discuss The Iron Chef!!) And, of course, Misto..*smooch*, I know you also are an IC devotee!

But after Bacon's "Getting to Know You" thread, I now also know that JiZZy is a huge fan, too. Knowing that ZZ's torso pic size is of growing (shrinking?) debate...I thought this thread would prove a perfect venue for ZZ to "post" IC menus or IC results on his torso!! (Pefectly acceptable, according to "the rules"). ZZ's washboard chest will make an excellent backdrop (*oops*).

Now..on with the asparagus tie-battle. The judges TIED yet again with the Chairman finally conceding both Corby and Chen the winners! A 1st on the Iron Chef! (Kinda like the last Winter Olympics without the judging scandal!)

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38. "France battles"
Thanks for reviving this thresd, Red Lady!

Some serious highway robbery was committed in France, and the victims were Sakai-san and Ishinabe-san (is that his name?).

Those French judges (Joel Robuchon and someone other culinary personage) really robbed Sakai in the second contest, though he clearly was better. You could just FEEL the tension between the Japanese judges and the French judges as they commented on the various items.

Well, I just got back from a golf-until-dark session, so I haven't reviewed tonight's (Friday, 8/23) Iron Chef tape. It should be an excellent battle, however.

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39. "RE: France battles"
I watched those last Sunday, and as soon as the first one was over I knew Sakai wouldn't have a chance in the second one, no matter what they did. It was so annoying during the judging when the women pointed out the French guy's seafood was tough and the French judges said, "Well, that just shows his talent." Hello? Part of the contest was picking your own ingredients.

I learned an important lesson, though...do NOT try to cook while watching Iron Chef. Even though I had no reason to hurry, I was rushing around my kitchen, flinging pots and acting like I was under a time limit. Mr. Bebo did enjoy the commentary during dinner, though..."I asked the Iron Chef, and she says the ingredients in the sauce are ketchup, honey, soy sauce, and a touch of hot sauce for some zing."


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41. "RE: France battles"
I learned an important lesson, though...do NOT try to cook while watching Iron Chef.

Amen! I make sure to eat something before Iron Chef comes on... oderwise I'm in there looking for something to eat, and I get tempted to start up the stove! And when I am cooking, I'll say something like "Look what Dawg is doing; he's adding garlic to that olive oil!" as if that's a big deal or something.

Your Iron Dawg,

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40. "RE: The Iron Chef"
Yes! I love Iron Chef
"Fakui-San!"
"Go ahead."
"The ingredients in this dish are fried uni, bean paste and diced bamboo shoots."

When Frau and I are cooking in the kitchen together, I say to her "Fakui-San" -- ha ha we have such a good time pretending to be Iron Chefs. One time we had a "garlic battle" and came up with some amazing dishes of our own.

One thing I can't stomach though is some of the ingredients they choose. The other night I saw them hacking up live turtles. They were all bloody with gaping holes in their necks and stomachs. I had to change the channel it was so gross.

Oh, and regarding the Flay battle. Yes, the guy is a true ass-holo-mio, but in the second battle he did some amazing things with lobster and avacado with the basil sauce drizzled on top. I've determined to try and make that some day.

Love me som Iron Chef!!!


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42. "Iron Chef v. BB3"
Man, what a dilemma I faced this evening! I was napping during the 7:00 showing of Iron Chef but wasn't concerned about that because I knew I could catch the 10:00 repeat showing.

Imagine my dilemma then when I realized that due to the NFL pre-season game between the Raiders & 49ers, BB3 would be airing at (yep, you guessed it) 10:00pm!

What should a RealityTV Whore to do? What would an Iron Chef devotee decide? I finally let my stomach be the judge. I still felt a little hungry after a lite dinner, so I knew if I watched the Iron Chef battle I would surely give in to my stomach's urges! So I made the only logical choice..BB3..which was guaranteed to make me lose my appetite! (BTW...it did not fail me!)

Regards,

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43. "RE: Iron Chef v. BB3"
Even though I watch the show when it comes on, I've gotten where I tape the Iron Chef airings (all 5 that I can get over the weekend) because there are frequently other things on TV that conflict, such as ball games. I also can fast-forward through the commercials. And, particuarly on Friday and Saturday nights, I might be out and about, so I need to tape for that reason.

In fact, I haven't even watched Friday's episode. Let me go do that right now...

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44. "RE: Iron Chef v. BB3"
I forgot to mention that my dang VCR is not working! Haven't decided whether to purchase another VCR or switch entirely to DVD. Decisions, decisions!
BTW...the Friday night battle is the one that got me so charged up! Hope you watch it soon so we can talk about it, Dawg!

Regards,

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48. "RE: Iron Chef v. BB3"
Okay, Red Lady, the Overtime Battle is "Oh-Vah", and was it ever a great battle!

You might wish to start a new IC thread, however. This one is getting bulky. I'd do it myself, but... trust me, it'd look better if you make the original post.


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49. "A new thread"
"You might wish to start a new IC thread, however. This one is getting bulky."

I think that is a good idea Dawg. Now promise me you will help me keep it going this time!
Domo Arigato!


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50. "RE: A new thread"
I'll do what I can to keep it going.

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45. "who would you like to see on the show"
I would like to see emeril go up against the iron chefs. Or even our very own Keith Famie

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47. "RE: who would you like to see on the show"
Very cool logo, there, survivorscott.

I wouldn't care to see Emeril... any Iron Chef would make lightwork of him.

Keith Famie might be interesting. Is Keith that good?

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51. "RE: who would you like to see on the show"
>Keith Famie might be interesting.
>Is Keith that good?

Not if rice is the theme ingredient...


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52. "RE: who would you like to see on the show"
>Keith Famie might be interesting.
>Is Keith that good?

Not if rice is the theme ingredient...

...and you just KNOW it would be!

And Jerri would be one of the judges...

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53. "Bang a gong...letZZ get it on"
OK...Red Lady...I saw your request on another thresd about Misto and myself coming over here to play. Not sure where Mistobabe is this morn (probably working and stuff..pffft), but I drug her over (drug..not drugged) here to "get it on"! Uhhhhh...I mean like...cooking and stuff.

Not quite sure what todays theme ingredient is, but I have a feeling that Da Jizz will try to incorporate some sort of cream sauce into it.

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54. "RE: Bang a gong...letZZ get it on"
I suggest a "salty cream" battle for the ingredient.

Here's the announcers for the Jizzy/Mistobabe Battle:

Evil Bert says he'll make sure Ernie is one of the tasters.

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55. "RE: Bang a gong...letZZ get it on"
Yea!! JiZZy finally showed up! We were waiting for your grand appearance. I believe I will start a new thread listing today's food battle ingredient!

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