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"CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
LAST EDITED ON 05-08-03 AT 02:21 PM (EST)

Today at noon Jiffy Probe participated in a conference call with the media -- below are some of my notes (there's not much spoilish info here, but I figured better to be safe than sorry)

- Jeff feels this is truly one of the best seasons ever. The good characters lasted deep into the show this time (cites Hunter and Gina as a failure in past shows for this to happen.) Rob is the smartest guy to ever play the same, Heidi and Jenna are one of the most memorable "couples" (his words) ever.

- Jeff was asked to clarify the "I never expected either of the Final 2 to be in the Final 2" comment. First he said that with the exception of Rob, he wouldn't have expected any of the other four to make the Final Two. Then he followed it up by saying when he first met Rob he thought Rob'd be first or second out because he was kinda the outcast of the guys -- not as physically strong as the rest, probably used to being picked last for everything in sports, etc. He also said his first impression of Matt was that he had "zero" social skills, that the "cute girls never last," and that you always think someone like Butch will never make it, but one of them always does.

- Jenna is "finally playing the game" starting with her outburst at Rob last week

- Rob is playing the game like Richard Hatch

- Christy had one of the best confessional speeches ever

- Question was asked about the editing of Heidi and Jenna -- Probst replied "we don't put words in anyone's mouth... do they deserve some of the heat they are taking -- sure"

- Janet had the second best confessional speech of the season (the "midlife crisis" commnet, which Jeff disagrees with though)

- The idea for Jenna to strip was completely her own, and if anything, Jeff says HE was the victim of editing as it was actually 45 minutes after Jenna made the peanut butter suggestion that they got the peanut butter and chocolate out to him. He says he probably looked when they stripped, but he claims not too remember because he was too concerned about trying to make sure they got the right camera shots, etc. (guess he doesn't consider it very memorable )

- Among the prime topics at the reunion will be Heidi, Jenna, Rob, the nature of Alex and Shawna's relationship, and Christy's experiences

- Helen Glover popped in and asked a question as a reporter for the Providence Journal. She asked if the show is happy with the role models that Heidi and Jenna have set for young girls and pointed out this is family hour television. Helen called them an "embarassment" and that their stripping for strippings sake was foolish, although it might have been more understandable if it at least had something to do with the gameplay to fake the boys out of the challenge. She talked about all the other beautiful women who've been the the show before (she rattled off 6-7 names) who "never resorted to that." Jeff kinda brushed her comments off saying that the show never knows what the players are going to do, the sexual energy was "so amped up" in this edition but that the nudity was "not an indication" of the type of stuff the producers are looking to show on future editions of Survivor. He then added that "the Final 4 in Thailand was one of the most boring Final 4's we've ever had" because, as Helen knows, the players were all older, more predictable, and because of Jan's lack of gameplay, Helen didn't have any chance to win. Helen thanked Jiffy for that reminder...

- The Christy thing was a "wierd dynamic" and it was partly Christy's fault, partly the fault of the women, and partly due to the deaf/hearing difference. "Christy was not a walk in the park either" and he'll be asking about this issue at the reunion.

- Jiffy is not sure if the Shawna/Alex relationship was real or if Alex was trying to play Shawna, he seemed to get over her very fast and he'll be asking about this at the reunion

- Talking about how you get to the Final 2, he said Ethan knew "what role to play" in his edition of the show and it "wasn't an accident" that he won -- "bullshit" to people who say otherwise (there was some surprisingly frank language in the call) and if you look at Ethan now and talk with him it's clear that he knew what he was doing.

- Asked for his Top 3 more favorite shows, he said his favorite edition is Survivor Borneo -- like your first girlfriend it holds a special place in your heart. Next is S2 and S6 (kinda a tie.)

- He is not obligated to talk to everyone during the reunion and his goal is to "have a show that's entertaining." But the "humane part of him" likes to try and give everyone "one last chance to be on TV" but some feedback from the media on the call convinced him to drop this idea and go with "the best show possible." (guess we can forget about ever hearing from some of the boring pre-jury boots.)

- Asked about other reality shows he said the one show he is really sad he missed (he only saw the finale) is NASHVILLE STAR, he thought the program looked great and featured real singers and real songwriters and genuine folks who have been struggling at this for a while (seemed to be taking a dig at American Idol.) Also said he enjoyed "American Chopper" on Discovery? -- some show about motorcycles and a father and son. He's curious to see what happens to AI from here on out, because the situation with them is like "we were after Survivor 2" in that they are getting all the press and then the press moved on to something else (I can't remember the exact phrasing, but this is what he implied.) Asked about Mr. Personality he called it "spooky -- seeing those guys in masks is kinda spooky."

- He says ROB is playing the game the best that anyone has ever played it -- he's been figuring out everyone else best move and then figuring out his best move, ...and then while the players are figuring out how to keep themselves in the game Rob walks up and tells them.

- Says "CHRISTY BLEW IT" (and adds that you can put that in caps) -- she could have still been in the game

- Confirms the final IC "plays out at the Tribal Council" (no further info) and since they are already there the vote immediately follows. The Final 2 will have a final day together, but honestly the Final IC/TC change is "not a big story"

- ROB has been successful because of his previous knowledge, and you could agrue that Hatch could not have had the same success if he were palying today because "no one needs to be led any more" The gameplay continues to evolve, the best thing for the show would be for more people to learn to play the game like Rob -- again with the Nash references, he says Nash detailed all this years ago with his "So Long Sucker"

- He thought that in the early days the Men tribe were idiots and would have loved to have seen the women run the table and booted them all as the first 8 bootees. Says he's personally "not a guy's guy."

- Shawna "knew what she was doing" in playing the guys and if she had been stronger she could have been there with Heidi and Jenna

- Jiffy told Ryan when he first met him that Ryan would be the first one out and Jeff took a little joy in snuffing Ryan's torch knowing that "he knew that I knew"

- The reaction to Rob from fans is "love/hate" and he's played an "incredibly solid game of Survivor" Funny guy. Repeated some of his favorite Rob jokes, etc.

- Heidi and Jenna -- "there are lot of guys who want to sleep with them and a lot of girls who want to slap them"

- Asked to talk about previous winners, he said he can't help but love Richard Hatch... initial response about Vee is "where'd she go?" -- she got the money and disappeared, fixing up her house, becoming a mother, etc.

- Said one of the best friends in his life is Colby. Asked for an update, he said Colby is living in LA and a "big part of the Survivor family" but he wants to be a legit actor and is avoiding other reality show appearances, etc. Jiffy has faith that Colby will succeed.

- Asked about the chances of doing "men vs. women" again he said it "played out terrifically," but they "lost sleep" when it started, the "last thing we wanted was 8 men" in the finals. They don't like to repeat ideas, but the concept "was a home run" and "only the futire will tell."

- CBS Media Relations confirmed that at last count 30-something former survivors will be attending the Finale

-SB

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Devious Weasel 05-08-03 1
 RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Boilermaker 05-08-03 2
   RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... VerucaSalt 05-08-03 4
       RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Devious Weasel 05-08-03 6
           RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... VerucaSalt 05-08-03 12
       RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Boilermaker 05-08-03 8
       RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Spidey 05-08-03 13
 RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... bebekid 05-08-03 3
   RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Brownroach 05-08-03 9
 RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... DoodleBug 05-08-03 5
 RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Brownroach 05-08-03 7
   RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... cqvenus 05-08-03 10
       RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference c... Brownroach 05-08-03 11

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05-08-03, 01:48 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
Thanks! Maybe not much spoilerish, but a fun read nonetheless!

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05-08-03, 02:09 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
Thanks Webby - very interesting to read.

We finally have a true understanding of Jeff's comments regarding Nash theory and the game of Survivor. So much for the interpretation of posters including myself of the leaders vs. followers thing.

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4. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
You know though, there has been sooooo much on Rob being the GrandMaster Survivor Player that you gotta wonder? Would they talk about him in such an awe inspiring way just so they can say Ooopsie?

It is almost like they are a company profiling their great product but they know who won so why profile something that fails? I'm sure car companies wouldn't go off about their new amazing vehicle knowing they would have to recall it later?

Somethin is just strange with all the "We're not worthy" talk about Rob.

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6. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
You would if you wanted to play up the "surprise nature" of him getting booted.

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12. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
True true weasel. I would, at least, hope WITH all the buildup that he would get booted at final three or two then. If booted tonight or at four, kind of a let down.
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I still believe that the reason for the Rob praise is that when the student finally overcomes his teacher then the build-up will add interest to this situation. Could this also buildup an interest in the jury that Rob (ala Kathy) deserved to win and some could hold resentment toward Matt for doing this?

Also Rob is the best player ever (Rich notwithstanding).

Edited to say the Weasel is so quick!

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13. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
You know though, there has been sooooo much on Rob being the GrandMaster Survivor Player that you gotta wonder?

I also specifically remember Jiffy saying Brian was a superior Survivor player before he won.

But oh course, no one knows the final vote until Sunday night (), but I don't think these comments in any way forclose Rob in the F2.



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LAST EDITED ON 05-08-03 AT 02:17 PM (EST)

>Shew talked about all the other beautiful women who've been the the show before (she rattled off 6-7 names) who "never resorted to that."<

Didn't you mean "Shrew"? We are talking about Helen, right?

>Confirms the final TC "plays out at the Tribal Council" (no further info) and since they are already there the vote immediately follows. The Final 2 will have a final day together, but honestly the Final IC/TC change is "not a big story"<

Did you mean the final IC? This is what happened in S2. Fallen Comrades was the final IC and as soon as Colby won, he had to cast his vote. No questions from Jiffy. This is what he meant by no time to think about it. If it were an IC at a different location, then the winner would have time to think while traveling to TC. "Not a big story".

And boy, high praise for Rob from Jiffy, eh? Makes me think Rob doesn't win or even make final 2 (well, there are other reasons).

Thanks, Webby. You are the Best of the Best.

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05-08-03, 02:42 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
Fallen Comrades was the final IC and as soon as Colby won, he had to cast his vote. No questions from Jiffy. This is what he meant by no time to think about it. If it were an IC at a different location, then the winner would have time to think while traveling to TC. "Not a big story".

I think you are right about this, Bebekid. Especially if the F2 are going to have a final day together -- that would be impossible if the jury Q&A and vote for the winner occurs right after the F3 person is booted.

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Thanks so much! Very interesting read!
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7. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
Thanks, Webby. LOL that he told Helen she was part of a really boring final 4.

It's a little transparent, imo, how much he talks about Rob as the best player, even better than Richard Hatch in some ways. He so wants the audience to think that Rob is going to win.

- Talking about how you get to the Final 2, he said Ethan knew "what role to play" in his edition of the show and it "wasn't an accident" that he won -- "bullshit" to people who say otherwise (there was some surprisingly frank language in the call) and if you look at Ethan now and talk with him it's clear that he knew what he was doing.

This I find interesting. Did he talk about all the other winners in considering the road to the final 2? If not, this strikes me as a veiled comparison to Matthew.

- Among the prime topics at the reunion will be Heidi, Jenna, Rob, the nature of Alex and Shawna's relationship, and Christy's experiences

Do you think he deliberately left the winner out of this group? Another Matthew-as-winner indicator?


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well he didn't mention Butch, either, and i doubt it's because *he* wins.

at least i hope.

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11. "RE: CBS Finale/Reunion conference call"
the "humane part of him" likes to try and give everyone "one last chance to be on TV" but some feedback from the media on the call convinced him to drop this idea and go with "the best show possible." (guess we can forget about ever hearing from some of the boring pre-jury boots.)

And Butch.


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