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According to Kremlin records revealed after the breakup of the Soviet Union, as well as information gleaned from interviews with the Russian spy handlers, Ethel did not participate in the spying (she didn't even have a Russian code name assigned to her) not even to the extent of typing up Greenglass or her husband's notes as was alleged by Greenglass. Julius on the other hand was active (as proven by the FBI investigations, the Russian intercepts, and Russian records reviewed after the USSR breakup) in setting up spy rings and recruiting spies.

What neither he nor his wife were guilty of was passing the vital secrets of the atom bomb to the Russians. That turned out to be a semi-separate Soviet penetration by spies, among them Klaus Fuchs, a physicist working on the Manhattan project. Greenglass was actually guilty of trying his damnest to obtain secrets to pass on to Julius, but as a low level machinist, he just didn't have that kind of access. But becasue they caught him and his wife trying to spy, they had leverage over him which Cohn used to get him to lie on the stand and testify against the Rosenbergs. So, Julius kinda got what he deserved, but Ethel was collateral damage caused mainly by Cohn. One has to suspect that she at least knew what was going on, though.

Greenglass escaped with a 15 year sentence.

So you are very right about Julius, he got what he deserved, albeit in a very crooked way by one of the most unethical lawyers in history, Roy Cohn, Donald Trump's lawyer.

I didn't get what I've learned from this article, but here is a Smithsonian site with a lot of the information.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/spies-who-spilled-atomic-bomb-secrets-127922660/

BTW, the major criticism I would have with McCarthy is not that rooting out spies is wrong, but what is wrong is a politiciam making assertions without facts that ruin a large number of people's lives, for no other apparent reason than to boost one's own political career. He may have actually exposed a spy or two, but the massive immoral, unethical, and probably illegal if it were to be pursued, collateral damage he and cohn caused could have hardly been worth it.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 California Primary   foonermints     05-31-16       
   RE: California Primary   cahaya     06-01-16     1  
   RE: California Primary   kingfish     06-01-16     2  
     RE: California Primary   kingfish     06-02-16     3  
         The National Pooch?   foonermints     06-02-16     4  
             RE: The National Pooch?   kingfish     06-03-16     5  
                 RE: The National Pooch?   cahaya     06-03-16     7  
   RE: California Primary   cahaya     06-03-16     6  
     Nixon   foonermints     06-03-16     8  
         RE: Nixon   kingfish     06-04-16     9  
             Well..   foonermints     06-04-16     10  
                 RE: Well..   kingfish     06-06-16     11  
                     RE: Well..   cahaya     06-06-16     12  
                         RE: Well..   kingfish     06-06-16     13  
                             RE: Well..   cahaya     06-06-16     14  
   RE: California Primary   kingfish     06-08-16     15  
     HagBag   foonermints     06-08-16     16  
         RE: HagBag   kingfish     06-09-16     17  
             Acquisitions   foonermints     06-09-16     18  
                 RE: Acquisitions   kingfish     06-10-16     19  
                     RE: Acquisitions   cahaya     06-10-16     23  
     RE: California Primary   PepeLePew13     06-10-16     20  
         RE: California Primary   kingfish     06-10-16     21  
             RE: California Primary   PepeLePew13     06-10-16     22  
         RE: California Primary   kidflash212     06-11-16     24  
             RE: California Primary   foonermints     06-12-16     25  
             RE: California Primary   PepeLePew13     06-14-16     26  
                 RE: California Primary   kingfish     06-15-16     27  
                 RE: California Primary   cahaya     06-15-16     28  
                     RE: California Primary   PepeLePew13     06-17-16     31  
                         RE: California Primary   kingfish     06-18-16     32  
                             Won't The French   foonermints     06-18-16     34  
                             RE: California Primary   PepeLePew13     06-20-16     37  
                 RE: California Primary   foonermints     06-16-16     29  
                     RE: California Primary   kingfish     06-17-16     30  
                         Err..   foonermints     06-18-16     33  
                             RE: Err..   kingfish     06-18-16     35  
                                 RE: Err..   foonermints     06-19-16     36  
                                     RE: Err..   kingfish     06-20-16     38  
                                         I Know!   foonermints     06-20-16     39  
                                             RE: I Know!   kingfish     06-21-16     40  
                                             With Moonshine in the Proper Amount   foonermints     06-21-16     41  
                                             RE: With Moonshine in the Proper Am...   kingfish     06-22-16     42  
                                             Hollering Babes?   foonermints     06-22-16     43  
                                             And now, your weather report...   kingfish     06-24-16     44  
                                             RE: And now, your weather report...   foonermints     07-22-16     47  
   RE: California Primary   cahaya     07-22-16     45  
     RE: California Primary   kingfish     07-22-16     46  
         Criminal?   foonermints     07-22-16     48  
             RE: Criminal?   kingfish     07-23-16     49  
                 RE: Criminal?   cahaya     07-24-16     50  
                     ah, WTF..   foonermints     07-25-16     51  
                     Clump?   kidflash212     08-02-16     52  
                         RE: Clump?   kingfish     08-02-16     53  
                             RE: Clump?   cahaya     08-02-16     54  
                                 RE: Clump?   kingfish     08-02-16     56  
                                 Jeebuz!   foonermints     08-02-16     58  
                                     RE: Jeebuz!   kingfish     08-02-16     59  
   Hiding?   cahaya     08-02-16     55  
     Not Me!   foonermints     08-02-16     57  
         RE: Not Me!   cahaya     08-04-16     66  
     RE: Hiding?   kingfish     08-02-16     60  
         I couldn't agree more.   foonermints     08-02-16     61  
             RE: I couldn't agree more.   kingfish     08-02-16     62  
                 *sobbing*   foonermints     08-02-16     63  
                     RIP   kingfish     08-03-16     64  
                         RE: RIP   foonermints     08-03-16     65  
                             RE: RIP   kingfish     08-04-16     67  
                                 RE: RIP   foonermints     08-04-16     68  
                                     RE: RIP   kingfish     08-05-16     69  
                                         You missed it   cahaya     08-05-16     70  
                                             RE: You missed it   kingfish     08-05-16     71  
   Which Liar To Vote For?   foonermints     08-11-16     72  
     RE: Which Liar To Vote For?   cahaya     08-12-16     73  
         so..   foonermints     08-12-16     74  
         PLUS   foonermints     08-12-16     75  
             RE: PLUS   cahaya     08-13-16     76  
             RE: PLUS   kingfish     08-13-16     77  
                 AND   foonermints     08-13-16     78  
   Time to get that bump on your head ...   PepeLePew13     08-16-16     79  
     I Am Moving to Haiti!   foonermints     08-17-16     80  
         RE: I Am Moving to Haiti!   cahaya     08-18-16     81  
             RE: I Am Moving to Haiti!   kingfish     08-18-16     82  
     RE: Time to get that bump on your h...   Dakota     08-21-16     84  
   Overall   foonermints     08-20-16     83  
     RE: Overall   kingfish     08-22-16     85  
         I'd Sooner Vote For This Guy   foonermints     08-22-16     86  
   RE: California Primary   Dakota     09-16-16     87  
     RE: California Primary   kingfish     09-16-16     88  
         RE: California Primary   foonermints     09-18-16     89  
             RE: California Primary   kingfish     09-19-16     90  
                 RE: California Primary   foonermints     09-20-16     91  
   This is Trump Reality TV   cahaya     06-13-17     92  
     RE: This is Trump Reality TV   kingfish     06-13-17     93  
         RE: This is Trump Reality TV   cahaya     06-13-17     94  
             Caesar!   foonermints     06-13-17     95  
                 Brutus!   cahaya     06-14-17     96  
                     RE: Brutus!   kingfish     06-14-17     97  
                         RE: Brutus!   cahaya     06-14-17     98  
   99 swoop!   cahaya     06-14-17     99  
     RE: 99 swoop!   kingfish     06-15-17     100  
         RE: 99 swoop!   cahaya     06-15-17     101  
             Humph!   kingfish     06-15-17     102  
                 RE: Humph!   cahaya     06-15-17     103  
                     RE: Humph!   kingfish     06-16-17     104  
                         99   foonermints     06-17-17     105  
                             RE: 99   kingfish     06-17-17     106  
                                 I will send you a candle   foonermints     06-17-17     107  
                                     RE: I will send you a candle   kingfish     06-17-17     108  
                                         I will drop this down the hole   foonermints     06-17-17     109  
                                             RE: I will drop this down the hole   kingfish     06-18-17     110  
                     RE: Humph!   jbug     06-18-17     111  
                         RE: Humph!   cahaya     06-18-17     112  
                         Yeah!   kingfish     06-18-17     113  
   If you're lookin' for an official F...   cahaya     06-23-17     114  
     RE: If you're lookin' for an offici...   cahaya     06-29-17     115  
         Fiddle-De-De   foonermints     06-29-17     116  
             RE: Fiddle-De-De   cahaya     06-30-17     117  
   Trump is...   cahaya     07-21-17     118  
     RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   kingfish     07-22-17     119  
         RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   cahaya     07-23-17     120  
             RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   kingfish     07-23-17     121  
                 RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   newsomewayne     07-25-17     123  
                     RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   kingfish     07-26-17     127  
                 RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   cahaya     07-27-17     130  
                     RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   kingfish     08-01-17     132  
                         Fake news!   cahaya     08-02-17     133  
         RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   newsomewayne     07-25-17     122  
             RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   kingfish     07-25-17     124  
                 RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   newsomewayne     07-25-17     125  
                     RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   kingfish     07-26-17     126  
                     RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   kingfish     07-26-17     128  
                         RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   cahaya     07-26-17     129  
                             RE: Trump is anything but a Communi...   newsomewayne     08-01-17     131  
   RE: California Primary   foonermints     08-04-17     134  
   *Trump Bump*   foonermints     08-18-17     135  
     RE: *Trump Bump*   cahaya     08-19-17     136  
         I Wonder   foonermints     08-22-17     137  
   RE: California Primary   foonermints     08-29-17     138  
   RE: California Primary   foonermints     09-03-17     139  

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