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"Marriage Without Pregnancy"
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01-30-13, 11:51 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy"
LAST EDITED ON 01-30-13 AT 11:54 AM (EST)

Actually, that's only a new tactic in Susan Estrich's mind. The idea that marriage is integrally linked to procreation has been at the center of all the legal arguments and court cases on gay marriage. Estrich, a Harvard Law grad, should know that, but maybe she was under deadline and out of ideas.

What that argument addresses is that there ia a nondiscriminatory reason that states would choose to limit marriage to heterosexual couples -- because marriage provided a way to ameliorate the effects of unplanned pregnancy. The fact that some heterosexual couples are infertile is irrelevant; only heterosexual couples can have unplanned pregnancies. Thus, because there is a reason other than anti-homosexual animus that the state would choose to limit marriage to heterosexual couples, such a limitation on marriage is not illegal discrimination and should be permitted to stand. (However, the argument has no relevance to the question of whether DOMA should be permitted to stand, which is a federalism argument.)

I can't say too much about this case because of my involvement in a related case, but I just want to say that, unlike Ms. Estrich's claim, I have NEVER seen a brief filed by the parties opposing gay marriage that claimed that "homosexuality is immoral." Do you know why? Because such an argument would be certain to lose. That doesn't mean that politicians haven't argued that (right, ex-Sen. Santorum?). But no court case has.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Marriage Without Pregnancy   HobbsofMI     01-30-13       
   As long as it applies to heterosexu...   Estee     01-30-13     1  
   RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy   AyaK     01-30-13     2  
     RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy   Estee     01-30-13     3  
         RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy   AyaK     01-30-13     7  
   RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy   kidflash212     01-30-13     4  
     RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy   Estee     01-30-13     5  
   RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy   dabo     01-30-13     6  
   abolish marriage now!   bondt007     01-30-13     8  
     RE: abolish marriage now!   Estee     01-30-13     9  
         RE: abolish marriage now!   bondt007     01-30-13     10  
             RE: abolish marriage now!   AyaK     01-30-13     11  
                 RE: abolish marriage now!   cahaya     01-31-13     14  
                     RE: abolish marriage now!   AyaK     01-31-13     15  
                         RE: abolish marriage now!   Snidget     01-31-13     16  
                             RE: abolish marriage now!   AyaK     01-31-13     17  
                                 RE: abolish marriage now!   Snidget     01-31-13     19  
                             RE: abolish marriage now!   dabo     01-31-13     18  
                                 RE: abolish marriage now!   kidflash212     02-01-13     25  
                                     RE: abolish marriage now!   dabo     02-01-13     26  
                         RE: abolish marriage now!   kidflash212     01-31-13     20  
                             RE: abolish marriage now!   AyaK     01-31-13     21  
                                 Hitler Ate Sugar.   Estee     01-31-13     22  
                                     RE: Hitler Ate Sugar.   AyaK     02-01-13     23  
                                         RE: Hitler Ate Sugar.   Estee     02-01-13     24  
                                             RE: Hitler Ate Sugar.   AyaK     02-01-13     27  
                                             RE: Hitler Ate Sugar.   cahaya     02-01-13     29  
                                             Not Just The Crust.   foonermints     02-01-13     30  
                                 RE: abolish marriage now!   dabo     02-02-13     31  
                                     RE: abolish marriage now!   cahaya     02-02-13     32  
                                         RE: abolish marriage now!   Starshine     02-03-13     33  
                                             RE: abolish marriage now!   cahaya     02-03-13     34  
                                             RE: abolish marriage now!   Starshine     02-03-13     35  
                                             RE: abolish marriage now!   cahaya     02-03-13     36  
                                             Coincidence!   Starshine     02-04-13     37  
                                             RE: Coincidence!   Estee     02-04-13     38  
                                             RE: Coincidence!   Starshine     02-04-13     39  
                                             RE: Coincidence!   Estee     02-04-13     40  
                                             RE: Coincidence!   Snidget     02-04-13     41  
                                             RE: Coincidence!   cahaya     02-04-13     42  
                                             Another Coffin in that grave   Snidget     07-30-13     46  
                                             RE: Another Coffin in that grave   cahaya     07-30-13     47  
                                             RE: Another Coffin in that grave   AyaK     07-30-13     48  
                                             RE: abolish marriage now!   AyaK     02-05-13     44  
                         RE: abolish marriage now!   cahaya     02-01-13     28  
                             RE: abolish marriage now!   AyaK     02-05-13     43  
                                 RE: abolish marriage now!   cahaya     02-05-13     45  
   Shazam!   dabo     01-30-13     12  
   RE: Marriage Without Pregnancy   foonermints     01-30-13     13  

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