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"Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
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The full listing for this episode is:
Survivor: The Amazon
Sour Grapes
60 min.
An 11th player is voted out. Jeff Probst is the host.


The Fox and the Grapes
from Aesop:

A FAMISHED FOX saw some clusters of ripe black grapes hanging
from a trellised vine. She resorted to all her tricks to get at
them, but wearied herself in vain, for she could not reach them.
At last she turned away, hiding her disappointment and saying:
"The Grapes are sour, and not ripe as I thought."

Episode titles so far:
Ep1, Feb 13: Boys vs Girls (tvguide.com)
Ep1, Feb 13: Snakes in the Grass (TV Guide close-up. print version)
Ep2, Feb 20: Storms
Ep3, Feb 27: Girl Power
Ep4, Mar 6: Trapped
Ep5, Mar 13: Pick-up Sticks
Ep6, Mar 19: More Than `Meats' the Eye
Ep7: Mar 26: Girls Gone Wilder
Ep8: Apr 3: Sleeping with the Enemy
Ep9: Apr 10: The Chain
Recap: April 17: Amazon Redux
Ep10: Apr 24: Q & A
Ep11: May 1: Sour Grapes


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Krautboy 04-15-03 1
   RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Brownroach 04-15-03 2
   RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes tamarama 04-15-03 5
       RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Brownroach 04-15-03 6
   RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes toddE 04-15-03 7
       RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Thaibeach 04-16-03 8
           RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes SaphireLady 04-17-03 9
               RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Thaibeach 04-17-03 10
           RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes bobstew617 04-18-03 13
               RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Thaibeach 04-22-03 16
           RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes msinger 04-22-03 19
 RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Chez 04-15-03 3
   RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Wacko Jacko 04-15-03 4
       RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes flyfly 04-17-03 12
           RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Thaibeach 04-22-03 17
               RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Devious Weasel 04-22-03 18
 RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Krautboy 04-17-03 11
   RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Devious Weasel 04-18-03 14
   RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Brownroach 04-21-03 15
   RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Shamazon 04-24-03 20
       RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes Devious Weasel 04-24-03 21

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1. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
As is usually the case, the episode title is selected for multiple interpretations...but it sure sounds like Heidi and Jenna are not happy about Rob defecting and voting off Alex.

This also sets up the argument Heidi is rumored to have with the "stupid boy"...and the tribe dynamic that gets her booted in EP11.



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2. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Hey, KB, I guess we're "cycling" together -- mentally, that is -- to borrow Janet's quaint phraseology!

This title is making me even more convinced that Alex gets the boot next. If the alliance of 4 is flaunting their power in Ep 10, and Alex goes, I can see a Rotu 4-type meltdown occurring.

After John got booted in Marquesas, Tammy and Robert were resentful and self-righteous about how smug Neleh, Paschal et al started acting. Jenna and Heidi will be pissed at Rob, but they will be even more pissed that Christy, Matt and Butch are in the catbird seat. Sour grapes indeed.

If Rob were to get booted next for his double-dealing, Jenna, Heidi and Alex would probably have had a hand in it, so there wouldn't be any basis for "sour grapes" feelings by anyone in Ep 11.

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5. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Please forgive me -- can you briefly recap the "stupid boy" argument -- or point me to the thread...

Thanks!

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6. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Tamarama --

Milkshaky -- the premier Heidi informant -- posted something about this on SS. I don't remember it exactly other than what Krautboy says -- she has an argument with a stupid boy, or maybe it was a stupid argument with a boy.

MIlkshaky's posts just pop up in different threads on the board there so it may be hard to find it. I think most of them are in the ChillOne thread which is (gulp) 150-something pages long now!

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7. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
There COULD be multiple interpretations, but it really adds another log to the "Alex goes next" fire, and the nasty skanks have hard feelings toward Adam Sandler and the misfit 3.


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8. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
ToddE,

you are so right about the log and the nasty skanks!!

But please don't compare delicious Adam Sandler to that karaoke-singing, fat-girl-story-fabricating, cookie-stealing, skank-lusting, obnoxious, irritating, enormous-nosed dork with the pasty-white body of a seriously unattractive 12-year-old boy...also known as Rob.

Operaman thanks you.


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9. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
I am recieving alittle ESP here. HHHmmmm Rob is not your favorite person, am I right?



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10. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
ya think?!
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13. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
>But please don't compare delicious Adam
>Sandler to that karaoke-singing, fat-girl-story-fabricating,
>cookie-stealing, skank-lusting, obnoxious, irritating, enormous-nosed
>dork with the pasty-white body
>of a seriously unattractive 12-year-old
>boy...also known as Rob.

WOW! I couldn't have said it better myself, Thaibeach! Make sure you join our alliance in the What If game this round.

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16. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Thanks, Bobstew - but what is "what if?"
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19. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
If it wasn't for Rob this season would be BORING!!!!
He is very entertaining!
I say your a bore!

>ToddE,

>
>you are so right about the
>log and the nasty skanks!!
>
>
>But please don't compare delicious Adam
>Sandler to that karaoke-singing, fat-girl-story-fabricating,
>cookie-stealing, skank-lusting, obnoxious, irritating, enormous-nosed
>dork with the pasty-white body
>of a seriously unattractive 12-year-old
>boy...also known as Rob.
>
>Operaman thanks you.


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3. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Another "double meaning" could unfold if this episode has something to do with someone drinking too much wine (i.e. reward challenge or other occurrence) and maybe getting sick or otherwise embarrassing themself.
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4. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Or it could mean that Butch gets made at someone.............or maybe not then it would be "Sour Gramps". Sorry, continue...
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12. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Or maybe Matt turns his machete on some manioc and jungleberries . . . .oops, no, that would be sour crepes.
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17. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Or maybe Matt takes on the persona of his less-skeletal lookalike Tony Robbins and forces everyone to listen to his "Power Tapes".
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18. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
I appreciate a bad pun as much as the next mammal, but that was a bit of a stretch...
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11. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
The Fox and the Grapes

One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I am sure they are sour."

Moral:It is easy to despise what you cannot get.


Does Rob turn against Heidi after being rejected?

or

Are the "sour grapes" someone's reaction to not winning the reward challenge...something like " glad I didn't win the car, it's such an ugly color..."



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14. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
"Cute girls don't drive Saturn's, so I didn't really want the Ion anyway..."
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15. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
Are the "sour grapes" someone's reaction to not winning the reward challenge...something like " glad I didn't win the car, it's such an ugly color..."

Probably one meaning, KB. We already had an example: Heidi and Jenna saying that they "didn't need the fat anyway" after Deena went on the banana split reward.


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20. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
I think the sour grapes are from Rob. That supports the idea that Alex goes in Ep 10. Even with all the hot guys gone, Rob STILL can't get Heidi. Rob's mindset is, I really didn't want her anyway and that leads to bye-bye Heidi in Ep 11. Jenna will avenge Heidi and take Rob out next. Then we're down to CO's final four.
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21. "RE: Episode 11: Sour Grapes"
That sounds absolutely perfect! It fits the Aesop definition of "Sour Grapes", it fits Rob and Heidi's character, and it fits our thoughts of a Heidi boot.
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