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03-18-12, 10:12 AM (EST)
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18. "Luck of the draw."
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Would there have been a hung jury if not for the random pull of an alternate's numbered ball? No way to tell. From what's been said by the deliberating jurors -- the ones who have spoken -- there was more than a little debate on the bias charges, which might have indicated a room initially divided to whatever degree. And one which ultimately came to a consensus. But...

http://www.northjersey.com/news/bergen/bergen_news/031712_RAVIJUROR0318.html

...you have to wonder.

Meanwhile, jail time debates have begun. The Star-Ledger op-ed piece thinks the bias law was poorly worded and prison shouldn't result. Others feel some prison time is warranted, but not the maximum -- ten years if all charges ran concurrently. (The minimum appears to be two, with parole and good behavior as permissible shortening elements.)

There's been a lot of talk about whether this will force people to consider what they say through social media -- beyond the 'I can never speak to a gay person again!' panic shown above by people who already make every attempt to never say anything nice to them anyway. Awareness that what you say really can be used against you, and everything you do online leaves some sort of trail. Open wondering if the hatred now has to find more subtle avenues.

Some people will wake up -- at least to the degree of being more careful about how and where they show their feelings. But others won't. 'They won't get me' is always a rallying cry, and they'll feel that their computer will be as much shield as sword.

But no matter how much the bigots panic and call this thought policing, it's not. They are still free to say whatever they like. But if they act on it, there are new sources of words with which to search for intent.

ETA: Another recurring theme I'm seeing in the articles is that this case puts a major wound in the 'Boys will be boys' defense, also known as 'jerky kid' or 'young and dumb'. I'm curious to see AyaK's take on that one.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-16-12       
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Starshine     03-17-12     1  
     RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-17-12     2  
     RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   PepeLePew13     03-17-12     8  
     I blame you guys across the pond.   newsomewayne     03-19-12     20  
         RE: I blame you guys across the pon...   Estee     03-19-12     21  
         RE: I blame you guys across the pon...   Starshine     03-22-12     26  
             RE: I blame you guys across the pon...   kingfish     02-05-13     49  
   The Internet is for porn ang...   Estee     03-17-12     3  
   The New Yorker story.   Estee     03-17-12     4  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   kidflash212     03-17-12     5  
     RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-17-12     7  
         RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   kidflash212     03-17-12     9  
             RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-17-12     10  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   PepeLePew13     03-17-12     6  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Snidget     03-17-12     11  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-17-12     12  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   dabo     03-17-12     13  
     Regarding (especially) #2, #4, #6, ...   Estee     03-17-12     14  
         RE: Regarding (especially) #2, #4, ...   dabo     03-17-12     15  
             RE: Regarding (especially) #2, #4, ...   Estee     03-17-12     16  
   And then there's this.   Estee     03-17-12     17  
   Luck of the draw.   Estee     03-18-12     18  
   Because pardons solve everything.   Estee     03-19-12     19  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Brownroach     03-22-12     22  
     RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-22-12     23  
         RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   dabo     03-22-12     24  
             RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-22-12     25  
                 RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Brownroach     03-23-12     27  
                     RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     03-23-12     28  
   Defense files for verdict dismissal...   Estee     05-02-12     29  
   Sentencing today.   Estee     05-21-12     30  
   The sentence.   Estee     05-21-12     31  
     RE: The sentence.   Snidget     05-21-12     35  
     RE: The sentence.   Max Headroom     05-21-12     36  
         RE: The sentence.   Estee     05-21-12     37  
   Internet go boom.   Estee     05-21-12     32  
     RE: Internet go boom.   dabo     05-21-12     34  
         RE: Internet go boom.   jbug     05-21-12     38  
             RE: Internet go boom.   Estee     05-21-12     39  
                 RE: Internet go boom.   qwertypie     05-21-12     44  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   kingfish     05-21-12     33  
     RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   cahaya     05-21-12     41  
         RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   kingfish     05-21-12     43  
   One person's happy.   Estee     05-21-12     40  
   RE: The Dharun Ravi verdict.   Estee     05-21-12     42  
   1/3rd off sale.   Estee     05-23-12     45  
   Ravi to enter prison Thursday.   Estee     05-29-12     46  
   Released.   Estee     06-19-12     47  
   The Tyler Clementi Center opens at ...   Estee     02-05-13     48  
     RE: The Tyler Clementi Center opens...   cahaya     02-06-13     50  

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