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"See BS Misdirection, Ep 8 "Sleeping With the Enemy""
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03-27-03, 00:34 AM (EST)
 
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"See BS Misdirection, Ep 8 "Sleeping With the Enemy"" |
ON THE NEXT SURVIVOR Matthew fixates on sharpening the machetes and creeps out his tribemates.
As Heidi and Jenna bathe each other, Rob voices his concern that they are using their sexuality to manipulate their fellow Survivors.
One Survivor embarks on a highly strategic relationship with a member of the opposite sex.
  All Hail the Kittyloaf!
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings
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03-27-03, 01:32 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: See BS Misdirection, Ep 8 "Sleeping With the Enemy"" |
Matthew fixates on sharpening the machetes and creeps out his tribemates.
Nothing different than what the promo shows. Also, nothing different than how we all already feel about "creepy-skull guy". Key thing is that his behavior only seems to creep them out.
Me thinks he's safe.As Heidi and Jenna bathe each other, Rob voices his concern that they are using their sexuality to manipulate their fellow Survivors.
First off. If he has to ask, than the answer is yes!
What I can't tell from this, is are they all together when he voices concerns or is he 20 feet away from them and is voicing concerns to the camera? I don't know if it really matters because, later on Rob has a conversation with Jenna about those same concerns, when Heidi isn't around. Most likely, to find out if Dave is still next. One Survivor embarks on a highly strategic relationship with a member of the opposite sex.
It has to be Heidi or Dave? Who is it highly strategic for?
Well, Dave seems like the kind of guy who would call it "highly strategic".
But, me thinks he might have caught a case of "Rogeritis" and is blissfully unaware that the forces have already chosen him to go next.
I don't see how Heidi could possibly believe that Dave could somehow help her advance in the game.
Yet ... it seems she's caught a bit of the "ShawnaNeucleosis" or "Sluttysloth Disorder". Alex must still be contagious. Just kiddin'.
All and all I think it leads to 2 of our potential EP.8 boots: Dave or Matthew.
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings
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03-27-03, 05:56 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: See BS Misdirection, Ep 8 "Sleeping With the Enemy"" |
"I don't see how Heidi could possibly believe that Dave could somehow help her advance in the game." Your response, survivorpinoy...Dave is a potential jury member!You are absolutely correct!!
Heidi has shown an avid interest in thinking about jury votes, before. If Dave was smart (and he may be)he would be thinking the same thing about Heidi.
My point, really, was to get at the heart of their strategic decision/alliance. How do they use each other to stay longer in the game. I must say, that in the past, open duo's don't usually make it together to F2. By being so openly close to each other they are painting targets on their backs.
However, if the 2 of them decide to actually work together instead of pretending to like each other or actually lose sense of the game, the two of them could really screw things up for the majority alliance. I now wonder if Heidi won't be thinking of getting rid of her competition ... Deena/the other leader. Heidi has recently been replaced by Rob, in Deena's F3 hopes. It makes me wonder if Jenna has a different F3 plan with Heidi. Or if Heidi has decided on Jenna and Dave, as her F3. Heidi could get rid of Deena now, with Butch, Christy, Dave, Jenna and herself. Vs. Rob, Matthew, Alex and Deena.
If she does get Butch and Christy(and Dave) it's because they are nervous about 1.not being part of the majority or 2.the fear of being next, and are just happy they aren't the being targetted. Also the 3 of them have known Heidi longer than Alex or Matt or Rob have.
(post-Deena)It only screws Rob and Alex over. Matthew is too out of it. Heidi retains her Jenna (and now Dave) ties and she wins a little respect from Christy and Butch because they were not targeted. tribephyl
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03-27-03, 08:34 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: See BS Misdirection, Ep 8 "Sleeping With the Enemy"" |
Teasers one and two are fluff IMO. However I will say if Dave wins II, Matthew is tanked.Matthew is creepy but Matthew is a vote in Deena/Rob's pocket; they want Dave gone, PERIOD. I will say though that Deena wants the strong men gone so she hasn't been as forthright with her Jamburu men. Matthew and Alex are not safe with her; she/Heidi/Jenna have already discussed strong men go. This is where I think Butch is pardoned to get to the final four because the vote changes (like it did with Roger/Dave) and they choose a stronger male off BEFORE Butch. I don't believe that in this strategy teasers with the opposite sex is something that both are aware of and doing together. On the assumption it is Heidi and Dave this refers to, IMO this is ONLY Dave trying to strategize. It says "with" but the word "with" doesn't have to mean the other person is aware of the scenario. Dave KNOWS he is SOOOO screwed, the look on his face at TC was clear indication. I think he is going to go to great lengths to embark on a very very strategic plan (FINALLY-I'm sorry but the greatest irony in this game is that the rocket scientist is completely clueless) with Heidi and I don't necessarily believe Heidi is being told his plan by him. I think he is just going to cozy up to her and make her not want to get rid of him. Rob sees this, gets burned up and paranoid. Deena is calling the shots. Dave is going. What we need to determine is WHO IS GOING IF HE WINS II. It isn't Butch. It isn't Christy, per MS it isn't Heidi and we know it isn't Jenna. Either Matthew, Alex or Rob (yes Rob too) are then vulnerable although Deena won't turn Rob out yet, she knows a buddy when she sees it PROVIDED he doesn't screw her and that is when he'll get bit in the ass.
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03-27-03, 01:26 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: See BS Misdirection, Ep 8 "Sleeping With the Enemy"" |
Deena was basically referring to NEW Jaburu before they merged. Probably just to make sure Alex, Matt, and Rob were all on board with her to take out New Tambaqui. That's why Heidi was not mentioned. Also, they were mostly just talking about the GUYS.
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03-27-03, 02:34 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: See BS Misdirection, Ep 8 "Sleeping With the Enemy"" |
Matthew fixates on sharpening the machetes and creeps out his tribemates. Is this like that big massive head wound the Misdirection told us about, or poor Alex's heartbreaking anguish over Shawna, each which was shown a grand total of 14 or so seconds? As Heidi and Jenna bathe each other, Rob voices his concern that they are using their sexuality to manipulate their fellow Survivors. Well *DUH* !!! Definitely one for the "You don't say" department. What an excuse to mention two good looking young women bathing each other, hinting at nudity and female-female interaction, then a chance to use the word "sexuality" to make sure we get the idea... One Survivor embarks on a highly strategic relationship with a member of the opposite sex. Yeah, I've embarked on a few of these "highly strategic" relationships with members of the opposite sex... and I'll let you figure out what my strategy was.  However, this probably is the only substantive piece of Misdirection. We know from previews that Dave is going to be working the Cute Girls. If I were in his position of being up for getting waxed, I'd do the same thing. The clue, however, is in the fact that they do not mention Dave by name, which is always a flag for me.   
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-03, 10:29 AM (EST)
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10. "RE-VISIT!!!!" |
Let's revisit one of the pieces of Misdirection, shall we?One Survivor embarks on a highly strategic relationship with a member of the opposite sex. It has been generally assumed that this refers to Dave and Heidi. But I don't see Dave's fixation with Heidi's fixtures to be "strategic", so I would suggest that this line could refer to another strategic relationship, and I submit two possibilites to you: 1) It's the Deena/Rob relationship that will be explored further. If it is true (from spoiler info) that Deena comes home disliking Rob, then he may have betrayed their alliance. In that case, this relationship's "story arc" would be developed, and this could be referring to that. 2) Christy and Butch. It is possible that Christy is going to start seeing the light about some things. So she allies with Butch. If they are in with Deena, then this would be some support for the abovementioned spoiler about Deena (she dislikes Rob but really likes Christy and Butch).
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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04-01-03, 11:05 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: CBS Eyemail" |
Still inclined to think this is Dave embarking at HeidiMaybe, but I can't think what kind of strategy Dave would come up with. He's been a poor strategist to this point. As a man of "integrity" he seems most comfortable employing a very basic, straightforward plan (the men re-unite and take out the women, and in the same order the women would have voted each other off, no less). The Roger boot hit him like a ton of bricks, and he probably feels he can't trust anyone other than Butch right now. I expect he's at least smart enough to realize he needs immunity this week. But to get anything else going that might save him, he has to completely change his mindset, and think about nuances and change-ups the way Rob and Deena do. I don't know if he has it in him.
Would he tell Heidi that she "owes" him, because he kept her around at Tambaqui? Would Heidi feel that way? I don't really think so. Anyway, any plan with Heidi would have to include Heidi swinging Jenna over, and I'm not inclined to think Jenna would go for it, though it might depend on who they want to target. But I'm really more disposed to think that the "strategy" element of the Heidi/Dave bonding is Heidi playing up to Dave because she knows he's going to be on the jury. It was Heidi who first observed that "Roger would never vote for a woman". So she has some sort of jury-centric strategy ideas floating around in her head.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-03, 12:06 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: CBS Eyemail" |
I'm sure Jenna was eating it up that the guys were talking about her derriere... they were paying attention to her, that DAW!!!  Seriously, Dave needs only convince Heidi to convince others to keep him around through one more TC, then one more, etc. He can do this by suggesting (to several folks) targeting Alex instead of himself or Butch. I don't think Dave is going this week, but that doesn't mean he'll be around for a long time, either. Furthermore, Dave *and* Butch must work a plan to bring others into their fold, or there won't be enough to counteract the present weight that Deena holds.
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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04-01-03, 02:01 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: CBS Eyemail" |
Veruca, I didn't mean that I think Dave will just sit back and pray for immunity. I have no doubt that TC was a wake-up call for him. I'm sure he will try to get something going to save his butt.I do think if he tries something with Heidi, he will remind her that he promised to save her until the merge, and he did, blah-blah-blah -- once again, he'd be making overtures on an "ethical" basis. But embarking on a relationship with Heidi isn't going to save him by itself, he needs other people too. The only person he can still trust is Butch and that's not enough. Heidi, on the other hand, can embark on a "strategic" relationship with Dave, knowing that he is going to get kicked onto the jury very soon. No one else has to enter the picture in a "make-nice-with-the-juror" strategy.
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04-01-03, 02:05 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: CBS Eyemail" |
Exciting week coming up guys!Think about things for a minute. I bet Alex and Rob are gloating all the way back to camp as well as Deena. Butch and Dave are stunned and feel betrayed. Stand up Dave is not going to put up with the gloating BS from Rob. I bet this is where Rob really starts rubbing people the wrong way. I still believe there is a secret alliance between Dave/Heidi/Jenna. Dave is gonna be safe this week. On the block Alex, Rob & Deena. Deena will stay true to Rob and axe Alex. 
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04-01-03, 05:05 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: CBS Eyemail" |
I say look out for Heidiho, she and Jenna both are not to be trusted. If Dave thinks his goofy rocket-tard act is going to score him another peek at those rocks in Heidi's socks, she will let him think it, right over the edge and onto the jury. and if she and Jenna were really smart, they would start throwing Rob a little play (although the dating game was enough to keep him spanking it for a while) to help secure his jury vote. No, as much as I hate to A) agree with CO's assessment, and B) admit it, I think at least one of the GGW gals are going to the F4 and beyond. This is definitely the most hormone-laden Survivor ever, and thank MB for finally getting some somewhat interesting people in the same show together. As soon as Martha Stewart.. Er, uh, Deena decides to take a look around to survey her kingdom, she will realize that most of her recon data has come from a guy (Rob) who would sell her and the alliance down the river if Heidi accidentally brushed his groin in her sleep, and she and Rob are in a quickly diminishing minority of people who do not claim to be models of any sort. And just for the record: I personally feel Jenna is a bit homely to be a swimsuit model. Well, on to week 8: Will Heidiho give Dave a HJ in the lean-to? Will Rob start growing hair on his palms? Will Deena teach Christy the value of having a double-jointed Gene Simmons Tongue? And finally, will Butch have to talk Matteo down off the roof of the shelter, or will he just organize the Jacare bake sale? These answers and more, on the next.......Survivor.
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