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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings
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"SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!"
Once again, I have no clue where Supes is and I'm still at work latish on a Tuesday night, so I'll be posting it again. (Seriously, I think Supes is even more swamped at work than I am, so do some voodoo to his boss's doll or something.)

The Rules

1. Please put the name of your choice for this week's bootee IN THE SUBJECT HEADING! This is really easy. Just erase the bit where it says "Re: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!" and replace with your vote, i.e., Christy (just noticed I've been pasting Ghandia in all this time). This makes it easier to tally votes quickly and accurately. Oh, and btw... nicknames are tougher to tally unless they're REALLY obvious without actually reading your vote.

2. Reply ONLY to this post! Curves on women are good. Curves on vote threads are bad. The first part bears repeating: I like curves on women.

EXCEPTION TO RULE 2! VOTE CHANGES!

If it just so happens that you wanna change your vote for whatever reason, REPLY TO YOUR ORIGINAL POST! Your new post heading should read "VOTE CHANGE: Dave (or Whoever)". That said, there is not exception to the fact that curves on women are good.

3. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD! DO NOT TREAT IT AS SUCH! There are plenty of places on the Spoilers Forum to debate the merits of people's arguments. Let's keep it out of here, please.

4. No sig pics! It was suggested that because this can be such a long thread, sig pics make it really hard to load for folks with dial-up connections. So show some respect to your slower brethren (and sistren).

And, of course, have fun. Seriously. I mean, it's not like this show is as painful to watch as "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!"

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 JOANNA BMH 03-04-03 1
 Dave SherpaDave 03-04-03 2
 JoAnna smokedog 03-04-03 3
 Joanna frisky 03-04-03 4
 Joanna IceCat 03-04-03 5
 Joanna Loree 03-04-03 6
 JoAnna bubbastan 03-04-03 7
 Joanna Lancerdude74 03-04-03 8
   VOTE CHANGE: Dave Lancerdude74 03-06-03 95
 Joanna Krautboy 03-04-03 9
 Joanna J Slice 03-05-03 10
 Joanna DeadInTheWater 03-05-03 11
 JoAnna ejm92 03-05-03 12
 Mother Amazon bergdogg 03-05-03 13
 Joanna SaphireLady 03-05-03 14
 Joanna SurvivinDawg 03-05-03 15
 Joanna ShowMeTheWinner 03-05-03 16
 Joanna railfan 03-05-03 17
 Linda's cousin (JoAnna) LeftPinky 03-05-03 18
 Joanna Thaibeach 03-05-03 19
 Joanna** DRONES 03-05-03 20
 JOANNA stan1616 03-05-03 21
 Joanna VerucaSalt 03-05-03 22
 Joanna Booted 03-05-03 23
 Joanna Bebo 03-05-03 24
 Joanna Q 03-05-03 25
 Joanna jkokoj 03-05-03 26
 Joanna Wacko Jacko 03-05-03 27
 Shawna FesterFan1 03-05-03 28
 JoAnna forehead 03-05-03 29
 Joanna bondt007 03-05-03 30
 Joanna djandy 03-05-03 31
 Joanna strone 03-05-03 32
 Joanna s_man 03-05-03 33
 SHAWNA MikeD 03-05-03 34
 Joanna WildEel 03-05-03 35
 Joanna Krendie 03-05-03 36
 Joanna Joannadanna blacknwhitedog 03-05-03 37
 Joanna Brownroach 03-05-03 38
 Joanna-Hosanna SurvivaBear 03-05-03 39
 Joanna Cin 03-05-03 40
 Joanna Long Dong Pagong 03-05-03 41
 Joanna munson 03-05-03 42
 Joanna Femme 03-05-03 43
 Vote Tally #1 clemsonbeav 03-05-03 44
 Joanna Cathy the Canadian 03-05-03 45
   Vote change - Christy Cathy the Canadian 03-05-03 57
 Shawna GuessItRains 03-05-03 46
 Vecepia II drawde236 03-05-03 47
 Joanna DeclaringJihadOnSurvivor 03-05-03 48
 Shawna mistofleas 03-05-03 49
 Joanna steppingrazor42 03-05-03 50
 JoAnna dabo 03-05-03 51
 Joanna bana fofana cowboyroo 03-05-03 52
 Praise Jesus! Joanna is out of the... smrtNsassybnkr 03-05-03 53
 Joanna !!!!! katem 03-05-03 54
 Shawna koki 03-05-03 55
 JoAnna Spidey 03-05-03 56
 Shawna snoocharoo 03-05-03 58
 Joanna (moo) waterbug 03-05-03 59
 Joanna NTK 03-05-03 60
 Joanna corcam 03-05-03 61
 Shawna IslandFever 03-05-03 62
 HEY JOANNA... Round Robin 03-05-03 63
 Joanna... bobstew617 03-05-03 64
 JoAnna SteffiGurl 03-06-03 65
 Joanna sleeeve 03-06-03 66
 Christy ringtheory 03-06-03 67
 JoAnna Prometheus 03-06-03 68
 Joanna buckeyegirl 03-06-03 69
 Roger Pants Optional 03-06-03 70
 JoAnna SuperClyde 03-06-03 71
 Vote Tally #2 dabo 03-06-03 72
 Hosanna AresMars 03-06-03 73
 JoAnna travelingbetty 03-06-03 74
 JoAnna samboohoo 03-06-03 75
 shawna Rosewood 03-06-03 76
 Jo an an ana survivorscott 03-06-03 77
 Joanna...praise be! Rain Crow 03-06-03 78
 Joanna lizzmac 03-06-03 79
 Joanna PepeLePew13 03-06-03 80
 Joanna SurvivorBlows 03-06-03 81
 Joanna MDSkinner 03-06-03 82
 JoAnna scante60a 03-06-03 83
 Joanna ulalame 03-06-03 84
 Shawna Swami 03-06-03 85
   Shawna wildchickenhunter 03-06-03 87
 Joanna janisella 03-06-03 86
 joanna smiles 03-06-03 88
 JoAnna TeamJoisey 03-06-03 89
 Joanna zzz 03-06-03 90
 Joanna wendyp 03-06-03 91
 Jocepia ElroyJetson 03-06-03 92
 Joanna Tumbler 03-06-03 93
 Vote Tally #3 SurvivaBear 03-06-03 94
 Jessie, oops I mean SHAWNA NorthOfBoston 03-06-03 96
 J-0-A-N-N-A BaquaR13 03-06-03 97
 joanna FSUGUY 03-06-03 98
 Christy L82LIFE 03-06-03 99
 JoAnna moonbaby 03-06-03 100
 Joanna bebekid 03-06-03 101
 "Oh Glory! Hallelujah!" Kokoro 03-06-03 102
 Joanna Squarepants party of one 03-06-03 103

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BMH 845 desperate attention whore postings
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03-04-03, 10:46 PM (EST)
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1. "JOANNA"
yay I get to be the first vote!!

Shawna.....

Too obvious

Christy....

Not gonna happen

Joanna.....

BINGO

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2. "Dave"
I've decided to start changing up my UTR pick because, hey, I'm a DAW and he has the same name as me.
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3. "JoAnna"
You should have went last week, now get out of here!
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4. "Joanna"
Thy will be done.
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5. "Joanna"
MB spent too much time trying to distract from Joanna...

She's gotta go now!

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6. "Joanna"
...because it is time
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7. "JoAnna"
Seems like the obvious choice (although I thought that she was last week, too).
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03-04-03, 11:31 PM (EST)
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8. "Joanna"
Thank the Lord!!!
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95. "VOTE CHANGE: Dave"
Just a feeling...
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03-04-03, 11:35 PM (EST)
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9. "Joanna"
This week MB has pushed Shawna and Matthew into the spotlight. Both are the focus of this weeks TV promos and website teasers and both are “Trapped”; Matthew by his previous association with Ryan and Daniel, and Shawna because she wants to leave the game, but can’t because the “new alliance” needs her in order to keep control. It appears MB is just using them to divert attention away from this weeks attempt at a “surprise” boot.

JABURU:

THE CHILLONE:

Had we not had access to The ChillOne’s “intel”, Joanna probably could be considered a “surprise” boot…but we DO have the intel and it tells us to focus our attention on Joanna…

WEIGHT LOSS:

Weight loss reports support Joanna leaving this week…for the Jaburu women, Joanna, Shawna and Jenna are the EP4 boot candidates based solely on weight loss information.

STRATEGIES REVEALED:

As we’ve seen time and again, strategies revealed to the viewers do not usually succeed. Jeanne and Joanna’s plan to put a target on Deena’s back by “initiating her” as tribe leader, appears to fail when Deena forms a dominant “new alliance”. Joanna becomes the likely target… on the wrong side of the 4-3 voting block.

OFG THEORY:

Even the OFG Theory points to Joanna this week. She was featured in the telltale promo vidcaps, both in recycled and new footage…

FACE TIME:

MB hid Daniel from the audience in the week before his boot by making him invisible, in an attempt to have the audience forget about him as a boot candidate. MB appears to have done the same thing again with Joanna last week. She had no confessionals and was edited without conflict. She was being set up as this week’s “surprise boot”, when Shawna “toughs it out for the team”…

CBS WEBSITE:

“A new alliance in the women's tribe thinks it's unstoppable. But when an illness hits Shawna, the power may be back up for grabs.”
This week the alliance (which Janet mentioned in her chat) is revealed to the viewers. Deena, Shawna, Heidi and Jenna think they’re “unstoppable” with a 4-3 voting advantage. “Illness hits Shawna” and she wants out of the game, at which point the “power may be back up for grabs” at 3-3.

JP COMMENTS:

“But with Shawna . . . just let me say that wanting to quit and being able to quit are two different things, and when you see the episode next week you'll see what I mean"

Shawna realizes she is “Trapped” and can not leave the game before the “New Alliance” can vote out Joanna…


TAMBAQUI:

The story over in the Tambaqui tribe appears to be secondary to thinks going on at Jaburu…

JP COMMENTS:

”Now Matthew is one of those people who just doesn't get the game, either - he is an outcast who associated himself with Daniel and Ryan early, and now he is in a precarious situation.”
Matthew is “Trapped” and must “craft a new strategy for survival”.

CBS WEBSITE:

“The men go out on a group expedition, but pointedly leave Matthew behind, leading him to craft a new strategy for survival.”
The weight loss information suggests that his strategy is probably successful…

WEIGHT LOSS:

Weight loss reports for Matthew suggest that he is still safe and that Dave, Roger and Alex would be the more likely EP4 boot candidates if the Tambaqui men went to TC.

EDITING:

Since the editing focuses on Matthew as the only boot target from the men’s tribe and weight loss information suggests he sticks around for a while longer, we can conclude that the men probably win the IC this week.

RECYCLED MISDIRECTION:

The vidcap promos this week also contain several recycled shots: vidcaps of the men looking dejected, as well as the women celebrating a Challenge victory. This misdirection in vidcaps suggests they don’t have any real footage of the women winning this week…MB and CBS know that showing the women winning is good for ratings...but what do they do if the women happen to lose both challenges?... Show old footage of them winning to let the viewing public THINK they will win again…

CONCLUSION:

Looks like the men sweep the challenges, while ChillOne sweeps the first four boots…and the Immunity Idol takes revenge on Joanna.


Krautboy

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10. "Joanna"
Damn... with Krautboy ahead of you, it's hard to make it look like you're not being a sheep...

I do agree with ya Krautboy... if their name appears in the See-BS preview blurbs, Matt and Shawna are safe... and the world breathes a collective sigh of relief as this clogged "vessel" can visit paradise... meaning, Loser Lodge...

Jesus had a hand in this, I'm certain. :-D

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11. "Joanna"
Where's your Jesus now, honey?
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12. "JoAnna"
Wishful thinking....
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13. "Mother Amazon"
JoAnna will now make her exit from the game. I am just a follower!! I was gonna name someone who hasn't had much discussion and say that I had "Top Secret Information" as to how I knew this person was going for sure. The problem with that theory was that there is just nobody in this game worth making a bogus spoiler over.

My alt pick is as always, Keith from Survivor 2.

"This, unfortunately, is the high point of my day" - Lester Burnham
Me and Heidi Strobel share the same birthday!!!! GO HEIDI!!!

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14. "Joanna"
Moo Moo Moo
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15. "Joanna"
Last week it was Daniel v. Joanna, and what's new now?

Daniel was booted last week. (I'd like to think that SNewser's comment of Daniel catching "mole-laria" was related to my Ep. 1 summary saying "Daniel is the Mole!", but it's probably just coincidence and I'm sure SNewser doesn't bother reading my summaries).

So that leaves Joanna this week. Supporting evidence is that in the VERY FEW scenes with Joanna last week, she was "Hosanna" and "Hallelujah!" -ing her way to annoying the guys at the challenges, so you KNOW she's bugging the hell (pun intended) out of the girls at Jabaru camp. Her "story arc" (who around here came up with that term?) has been shown.

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16. "Joanna"
This is probably my last week to remain at the top in Spoiler Island. Sob, sob... goodbye to the last person in the first 4 C1 picks.
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17. "Joanna"
I believe in Uncle Boat Driver! Sure the order was wrong, but the first 4 boots (a little slack cut for the 30-ish woman) and the dominant early challenge info was on the money!
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18. "Linda's cousin (JoAnna)"
Mama Amazon meets Mother Africa
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19. "Joanna"
The annoying b!tch will probably blame the devil for her boot.
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20. "Joanna**"
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21. "JOANNA"
Hallelujah!!! Finally she will get voted out!

____________________________

Stan1616

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22. "Joanna"
My reasons are posted in one of the darn threads.
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23. "Joanna"
Should have been last week... now I not in first...
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24. "Joanna"
...And on the twelfth day, Joanna was banish-ed to Loser Lodge.

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25. "Joanna"
for many many reasons.

1) she is next on my PTTE
2) I would vote her out
3) Idol is back with the women, so who knows what she does
4) I would vote her out
5) Jeanne and Her must be split up
6) I would vote her out

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26. "Joanna"
I have had her 4th in my PTTE for a while. All spoiling efforts the last 2 weeks have lead to a Joanna boot in Epi 4.

Good work everyone!

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27. "Joanna "
I think the fact that the girls have the immunity idol and Joanna doesn't think to kiddly of it is the clincher for me.
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28. "Shawna"
Obvious boot #1. I think Daniel's "hope to see you soon" at last week's RC was foreshadowing.

Fester

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29. "JoAnna"
Teasers and vidcaps (and recycled vidcaps showing women win) seem to indicate that the men will win both challenges. JoAnna is the logical pick given our choice between her and Daniel last week. Shawna is trapped and won't be able to leave the game.

See Krautboy's logic. Good to have the OFG theory back! Would be nice to have OFG back too...

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30. "Joanna"
...talk to the hand!

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31. "Joanna"
I'm picking her until she goes!
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32. "Joanna"
The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away.

Bye bye "oh dont you come up and get in my face" Girl!

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33. "Joanna"
Revelations 8:1 "....there was a silence in Heaven about the space of half an hour"

That can't happen as long as your here....so shut up and go home.

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34. "SHAWNA"
she so sick
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35. "Joanna"
Jiffy's "not being able to quit" quote rules out Shawna for me this week.
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36. "Joanna"
Like Daniel, she was hidden last episode. I'm thinking that SeeBS is going to try this editing again.
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37. "Joanna Joannadanna "
Because Krautboy says so
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38. "Joanna"
LAST EDITED ON 03-05-03 AT 12:24 PM (EST)

Just like Krautboy says.

I think Rob's confessional about how Joanna always screams "Jesus loves Jaburu!", but Jesus would probably watch out for the men, if anyone, will prove ironic this week.

Jesus will take Rob's thoughts under consideration and re-align with Tambaqui. Without Him to help her, Joanna will be toast.

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39. "Joanna-Hosanna"
Nuf said!
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40. "Joanna"
Cin
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41. "Joanna"
If at first, you don't succeed, try, try again!!
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42. "Joanna"
Completes the ChillOne's Survivor Boot Grand Slam.
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43. "Joanna"
Man, Sherps or Festah could be the only ones who are right this week. Naw... never happen.

"I shall no longer play the field; the field stinks, both economically and socially."

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44. "Vote Tally #1"
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This is post #44, summarizing 43 previous votes.

And it's overwhelmingly in Joanna's favor.

40 - Joanna
2 - Shawna
1 - Dave

All others UTR

Edit: Femme snuck one in!

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45. "Joanna"
Krautboy is convincing
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57. "Vote change - Christy"
I just don't think there's enough evidence for a Joanna boot, and Shawna does seem too obvious.

Christy has alienated herself more than anyone else on the women's tribe. The boobie alliance doesn't like her, Deena doesn't like her, in fact, I don't think she's close with anyone.

So, I'm going out on a limb....

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46. "Shawna"
Probably too late to stop this runaway train, but I'm going to try anyway.

First things first, I agree Jaburu is going to TC. Spoilers seem to indicate that, but I mainly base this on the fact that Matthew would be the almost certain boot target and spoilers indicate he lasts awhile. I think there is a slight outside chance Dave, unwilling to join the core Tambaqui alliance, might get ousted before Matthew, but its a longshot.

So we turn to the women, and the two obvious candidates seem to be Joanna and Shawna. I've read the posts and as best I can tell, there seem to be three prominent reasons cited as to why we know that Joanna goes this week and Shawna (or somebody else doesn't).

A) ChillOne says Joanna goes in the first 4 and ChillOne hasn't been wrong yet.
B) Joanna is a b!tch and most of the spoiler community dislikes her.
C) MB would never feature Shawna so prominently in the preview if she were actually going.


So let's look at these shall we?

A) CHILLONE IS WRONG ALL THE TIME

CO said the first boot was Daniel. Wrong it was Ryan. CO said the second boot was "Brian." Wrong it was Janet. CO said the third boot was Joanna. Wrong it was Daniel. CO says the fourth boot is "a woman around 30." This is going to also be false, and I still cannot believe that anybody would think a disheveled Janet looks anywhere close to 30.

For a while I thought that the fact that CO said Joanna is one of the first four boots may be some slight evidence of her going in the first four. But as often as CO is wrong, I just can't put any faith in that at all.

B) THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT JOANNA'S PERSONALITY OR CURRENT TRIBAL STANDING THAT MAKES HER LIKELY TO GO

To date, we've only heard one member of Joanna's tribe really complain about her, and that is Christy. The men (especially Rob) clearly dislike her, and in a merge or swap situation I can see her going easily. But Janet cited her as a leader, and Jeanne obviously considers her somewhat of an ally. She was the caller in the E2 RC challenge, so she must have some tribal respect. She's strong and has been working hard. Sure it could change, but there is no solid evidence of that.

I also still cannot see why Deena would join an alliance with the three "cute girls." She has nothing to gain by it. Just because Janet in a CBS-sponsored chat says it is so means nothing to me. And even if such a 4some did exist, why target Joanna? Why not Christy who has a clear attitude problem, Deena has criticized, and Jenna is clearly uncomfortable around? Or why not Jeanne who is bossy, catches fewer fish, and does less work than Joanna does? It just seems odd to me.

C) SHAWNA CAN BE PROMINENTLY FEATURED IN THE PREVIEW AND STILL GO

In the first place it happens all the time. In S2, Kimmi and Jerri were both prominently featured in complaining negative lights in the previews before their boots. In S3, Linda and Frank were shown in very negative lights in the previews before their boots. In S4, Patricia was featured as bossy and negative in the preview before her boot.

Next, MB pretty much has to at least mention Shawna's illness in the preview if it features heavily in the episode. Ignoring it entirely would seem a bit unfair, and MB has been criticized for keeping things hidden in the past, hasn't he? So why not do the atypical/unexpected and hide the boot in plain sight?

Look at the boot polls folks: I checked our own, SurvivorFever and CBS. All have Joanna with commanding leads. Roger is second in our poll and Matthew is second at CBS. Shawna is second at SurvivorFever but still way behind Joanna. Nobody thinks the obvious boot is going to be booted. So isn't it the perfect time?

Casual viewers will be surprised that Shawna goes because they will not even have realized she is sick. More aware viewers will either know of the spoilers or at least think that since Shawna is featured and the previews are "always" misleading that she will be saved. We too will be surprised when it doesn't happen.

D) THE JP QUOTE

Probst's quote that "wanting to leave and being able to leave" are two different things could have a lot of meanings. It could mean that Shawna wants to quit but sticks it out for her alliance who still mercy boots her. Or Jaburu could be told that if Shawna does leave they would still face a TC that night and might have to vote out somebody else. Not enough by itself to tell me that Shawna sticks around.

E) LOGIC

Shawna is clearly dragging in the fire challenge and sits out the pirahna challenge. Assuming Jaburu loses, no women will be able to sit out challenges in E5. Keeping her around for any sort of physical (or even mental) challenge could seriously threaten Jaburu yet again and reduce their numbers below those of the men. There is no incentive for Deena, Jenna, and Heidi to keep around an alliance partner who physically can't even make it to the merge. Besides Joanna and Christy hate each other, what are the chances of them forming an alliance? Those three votes may still be enough to survive.

The Bottom Line: Shawna, like Janet, is sick and doesn't want to be there. Jaburu's "unstoppable alliance" gets stopped as they give one of their own a mercy boot.


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47. "Vecepia II"
She. Must. Go.
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48. "Joanna"
God Damn
I'm not even watching the show anymore.
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49. "Shawna"
Laugh away but I made my decision to NOT be a sheep this week and vote for the person that seems an unlikely boot. I like Guessitrains thought process so I'm just going to be a little sheep and follow him(her).

mistofleas --meh meh meh

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50. "Joanna"
Please please please let it happen this week!
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51. "JoAnna"
RC: Tambaquie
IC: Tambaquie
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52. "Joanna bana fofana"
That evil immunity idol is back, and you only have a short, short time to make nice!
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53. "Praise Jesus! Joanna is out of there!"
Yeah!!!
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54. "Joanna !!!!!"
KRAUTBOY FOR PRESIDENT !!!!!

**My siggie goes here**

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55. "Shawna"
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56. "JoAnna"
And on the twelfth day, the Lord said "The tribe has spoken"
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58. "Shawna"

n/m
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59. "Joanna (moo)"
As usual, Krautboy, forehead, and brownroach have posted my reasons ... much better than I would have.
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60. "Joanna"
I would certainly go with the mercy boot, but I think they go with Joanna. I think it may help them return to TC next week as well.
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61. "Joanna"
Baaa LOL
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62. "Shawna"
Better spoiler minds than mine have picked Joanna. As a matter of fact almost everyone has picked her. I think she is the next female bootee. But Snews says Shawna goes early. We have heard someone gets sick this season. And I also think Daniel's see you soon comment was foreshadowing. C1 never mentioned Janet and has had the boot order all wrong. Time for Shawna to get some R & R in LL.
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63. "HEY JOANNA..."
...it's time for you to go!
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64. "Joanna..."
LAST EDITED ON 03-05-03 AT 11:52 PM (EST)

You are SO embarrassing, go back to SC and learn some humility.

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65. "JoAnna"
Going with the (un)popular vote again.
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66. "Joanna"
I have nothing to add to Krautboy's analysis.


You never know what might be up my sleeeve...

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67. "Christy"
She has no alliance at all. Shawna is next, but she does have an alliance and they make her keep her word in order not to lose their majority. Wish it was that nasty Jeanne instead...
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68. "JoAnna"
And Jiffy saw that it was good.
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69. "Joanna"
I hate going with the herd, but everything seems to be pointing towards her. Everyone has pretty much stated why I think she's a goner this week.

"Never doubt that a small, group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead


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70. "Roger"
I wanted to see a different name on the thread.
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71. "JoAnna"
The last of the easy ones (unless we bank on Shawna heading out next week).
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72. "Vote Tally #2"
This is post #72 compiling 69 votes, 1 vote change, and 1 previous tally.

JoAnna: 58
Shawna: 7
Christy: 2
Dave: 1
Roger: 1

all others UTR.

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73. "Hosanna"
Based on the totality of the spoiler info this seems to be the logical choice.

Although the ChillOne has not been dead nuts 100% accurate he's been close enough for me. He admited up front that his source was hazy on the initial boots which could explain the boots being out of order.

He nailed the Ryan pick, he changed it to Ryan from Brian remember.
He nailed Danial.

And to my satisfaction he got the Janet pick, remember that men should never attempt to guess a womens age or wieght.


God Bless America



There are two types of people, predators and prey, and the sound you hear is the sharpening of my claws.

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74. "JoAnna"
Please God!
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75. "JoAnna"
Poor Ryan and Daniel -- No babes on their team and no babes in the LL.

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76. "shawna"
I like Guess It Rains' analysis.
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77. "Jo an an ana"

Come in a stranger,leave a little stranger

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78. "Joanna...praise be!"
God's will be done.

Rain Crow

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79. "Joanna"
Maybe I'll get it right *this* week

Lizzmac

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80. "Joanna"
While GuessItRains and a couple others have made good and plausible arguments for other people such as Shawna, there's simply too much evidence that suggests Joanna is the bootee to go any other way.

I do think it's possible that MB is pulling a fast one, but what can I say? I'm a spoiler and I go with the overwhelming evidence.

Alternate - Shawna. If it's the men, I'll say Roger.

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81. "Joanna"
I don't normally post until after Spoiler Island closes, but things seem pretty clear this week... Shawna sits out one challenge, Jenna the other, men win the reward feast, men win the immunity challenge, Shawna sucks it up and stays in the game and her foursome alliance boots Joanna's idol-hating ass out of the game
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82. "Joanna"
I have seen no good reason to dispute it.
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83. "JoAnna"
It's probably the idol's fault.
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84. "Joanna"
Going with the crowd.

IC and RC will be won by the men.

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85. "Shawna"
Sometimes, you can't run with the herd.

Sick Shawna, with no weight lose spoilers, makes more sense than annoying-as-heck Joanna to me. We may be over thinking this one.

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87. "Shawna"
No one will ever accuse me of over thinking anything.
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86. "Joanna"
Let's hope so, anyway.
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88. "joanna"
The men win both challenges . . .

Bye JoAnna.

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89. "JoAnna"

Just chillin'



These reality show contestants need a reality check!

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90. "Joanna"
I really hope it is her this time--I want her out; she annoys me.
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91. "Joanna"
Well I voted for her last week, I might as well vote again this week.
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92. "Jocepia"
God is calling her home
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93. "Joanna"
I call for a permanent separation of Church and Survivor.

Tumbler

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94. "Vote Tally #3"
This is post #94 compiling 90 votes, 1 vote change, and 2 previous tallies.
JoAnna: 76
Shawna: 9
Christy: 2
Dave: 1
Roger: 1

all others UTR.

Let me take this opportunity to tease the rule violators!

Sig Pics: Team Joisey, AresMars, SurvivorScott, and (no, it can't be) our very own sleeeve!

Replying to the wrong post: wildchickenhunter apparently did not overthink this one either.

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96. "Jessie, oops I mean SHAWNA"
LAST EDITED ON 03-06-03 AT 07:02 PM (EST)

I was going to go with Joanna until I saw GuessItRains' logic:

"Shawna is clearly dragging in the fire challenge and sits out the pirahna challenge. Assuming Jaburu loses, no women will be able to sit out challenges in E5. Keeping her around for any sort of physical (or even mental) challenge could seriously threaten Jaburu yet again and reduce their numbers below those of the men. There is no incentive for Deena, Jenna, and Heidi to keep around an alliance partner who physically can't even make it to the merge. Besides Joanna and Christy hate each other, what are the chances of them forming an alliance? Those three votes may still be enough to survive."

This is a really good point... I'm still stuck on the fact that strong alliance numbers (H-S-J alliance + D?) outweigh strength of the tribe for most individuals... H/J may be more comfortable keeping S around to be DOUBLY sure for their own backs, but Deena seems annoyed with S in the previews. So I'm going with the obvious... Besides, when Jessie was sent out on a mercy vote, we all saw how sick she was almost all episode...

EDITED TO ADD::: Besides, even if by some odd chance the men went to TC, I think Dave is this season's Kathy O'Brien.

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97. "J-0-A-N-N-A"
duh...

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98. "joanna"
boy-girl-boy-girl-3 swap
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99. "Christy"
We'll try it again this week and see what happens.
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100. "JoAnna"
She gave new meaning to "the mouth of the Amazon."
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101. "Joanna"
I was holding out for post #100 but Moonbaby beat me to it!

*waves to Moonbaby*

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102. ""Oh Glory! Hallelujah!""
Bye bye, Joanna ^_~
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See last week.
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