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"Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
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ichabod 19 desperate attention whore postings
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11-10-05, 03:20 PM (EST)
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"Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
IV is psycho! This belief definition she's laying out is obviously wrong. She said that a belief is based on a thought not on an experience. For example, when she asked C about how she felt unworthy C said it was because her father told her she would only amount to being a stripper or flipping burgers. IV said that was C's belief based on C's thought. That was an experience, IV.
Then psycho-woman and Rhonda completely humiliate C and the next day she holds C's face in her hands and tells her some more bs that essentially absolves C from all wrongdoing. It made me feel like C was an abused woman whose husband hits her then kisses her. She's such an #####.
If it's true that C left with a cameraman I don't blame her.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation justashell 11-10-05 1
   RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation ichabod 11-10-05 2
       RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation CHRYSTALK 11-12-05 7
   RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation jennyhead 11-16-05 10
 RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation Elizabeth_In_Bama 11-11-05 3
 RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation mylifeisunfolding 11-12-05 4
   RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation ichabod 11-12-05 5
       RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation justashell 11-15-05 8
       RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation Angelbaby3782 11-15-05 9
       RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation jennyhead 11-16-05 11
 RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation frogfan72 11-12-05 6

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justashell 146 desperate attention whore postings
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11-10-05, 04:36 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"

I heard Iyanla say that a belief is a thought coupled with an emotion that leads to an experience.

I don't think Iyanla is as far off track as you think. As for Christina, let's see if she can deal with the harsh light of reality for a change.

I think it's a bunch of hooey when she says she is scared at the BOR---this from a girl who was enmeshed in the sleaziest and most degrading activity that anyone could engage in.

Behind those eyes, lies a cunning and ruthless woman who has demonstrated that she is willing to do just about anything for money.

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11-10-05, 06:28 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
If that's what she said then I misunderstood her.

As far as Christina goes, I really think she's detached. I worked for years with kids who had been victims of abuse and/or neglect. They are detached from love and some of the older girls would come to life when it came to the subject of sex. We'd have 15 yr. olds who called themselves women because they sensed that power with boys and men that has been refered to on the show. Christina is 20. She's really young. I feel bad for her.

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11-12-05, 10:49 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
i think that maybe she is detatched when she thinks or talks about what she did..if you guys dont remember in the beginning she said something about how she felt like a differnt person when she was working.i dont think of her as a whore cause she did it so she could support her son........and its not like she was walking the streets, she was an escort.....she didnt have to have sex, but she got more money to do it....she isnt proud of it and she wants to change so i wish that everyone would leave her alone and stop calling her names and talkin crap
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11-16-05, 07:29 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
LAST EDITED ON 11-16-05 AT 07:31 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 11-16-05 AT 07:31 AM (EST)

here is the direct quote from the so website

Beliefs (this taken from so website)
A belief is a thought fueled by an emotion that leads to an experience or an action. If we want to transform our lives we must check our BS...Our belief system

I posted on this in an earler thread because i didn't understand/agree with what IV was saying...a child has the experience, has an emotional reaction that leads to the thought, that thought leads to the behavior. As adults, we can change behavior beginning with a new thought. Experience is the origin, however.

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11-11-05, 11:27 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
C had a choice to either believe what her father told her or NOT believe what her father told her. THAT is thought.
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11-12-05, 05:47 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
RE Ichabod:

From dictionary.com website meaning of belief:

1. The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever.
2. Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies belief.
3. Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons.

Technically Iyanla was not off in her description because the belief does come from the thought and more importantly from the acceptance of the thought which can then determine your experiences.

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ichabod 19 desperate attention whore postings
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11-12-05, 09:20 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
Like I already said, I misunderstood what Iyanla said. I don't need any more definitions. My second point was about C's attitude. Someone said she had a choice to believe her father or not. If you're a child you believe what your parents tell you and you take it to heart. I look at her as a child still while others look at her like a sleezeball because her problem has to do with sex. I think some who seem to really feel hatred toward C are really threatened by her and others like her. The dteachment that comes across from C comes from a lack of having had love in her life from parents. Kids like that then express themselves in the only way they know they'll get attention. In her case, sex. In some boys, it might be with guns or bullying.
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11-15-05, 10:17 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"

Ich---I agree with you when you challenged the idea that a child has a choice to believe what your parents tell you.

IMO, Christina definitely has some problems. I don't know exactly what they are or where they come from---but I can't imagine that she did what she did unless she was one of two things:
completely immoral
completely confused and desperate.

It'll be interesting to find out.

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11-15-05, 11:39 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
I agree as well. when something is ingrained in to your head a child, you believe it. take for example the child whose parents consistently tell him/her that he/she is not smart. now the kid may indeed be intelligent but if your aunthority, int his case the parents tell you otherwise, you start to believe it. the more you hear it, the more you believe it and as result you conduct your life in that manner. C's dad basically told her she would never amount to anything more than a stripper, and lo and behold thats what she did. lisa's parents in the same way made her feel like she couldnt do anything on her own, and we see how she turned out. how funny it is that the LC's can try to change lisa's thinking and her way of life acknowledging this happened, but C is full of it and her life is somehow different. at the core i think its basically the same.
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11-16-05, 07:53 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
hi ichabod..i don't think you misunderstood what IV said..if you think about what IV said, it just doesn't make sense. I was confused at first also, but upon reflection, I just disagree with her. Experience is first.
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11-12-05, 10:07 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Belief BS and HG Humiliation"
It was funny when the girls were tossing the rings, for hours before Iyanla told them all they had to do is walk up and drop it over the bottles. They BELIEVED that they were supposed to stand back and throw it from a fair distance, but Iyanla never said that and they didn't ask either. They saw the line but they didnt confirm with iyanla that they had to stand on that line in chalk. They were giggling and had this 'candid camera look' when iyanla told them they didn't have to stand far away from the jugs.

They were acting on beliefs and 'making it up'. People 'make stuff up' all the time when they don't understand. If a girls boyfriend doesn't call her, she sometimes assumes "he must be mad at me or not love me" or whatever, when it's not true. He could just be running late, and love her very much.

Sometimes they make things harder for themselves, and that IS experience. In experience, I believe that things 'can't be that easy, and have to be harder than that" so I sometimes make things harder than they have to be because I have a false 'belief' that everything is going to be hard, because I was used to having a hard time learning, and if it's too easy, I've done it wrong. That's how it seemed to work and how I experienced school life when I was younger. I came up with that belief somewhere in my childhood. frogfan72

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