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Cathy the Canadian 599 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 12-14-02, 04:50 PM (EST) "Possibility of a tie in final four?" There's very little to work with this week as far as spoilers - so how about some speculation. Does anyone think there might be a tie vote this week? And if so, how will it be resolved? Where are Jan's loyalties? Has anyone else noticed that she's the ONLY one who says NOTHING about strategy or alliances in her confessionals? Is she alligned with Brian or Helen? Will Helen smell blood in the water, and get Jan on board with her?   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Possibility of a tie in final f... I_AM_HE 12-14-02 1  RE: Possibility of a tie in final f... BaquaR13 12-14-02 2    RE: Possibility of a tie in final f... Q 12-16-02 5  RE: Possibility of a tie in final f... phonarr 12-15-02 3  RE: Possibility of a tie in final f... Masquerade_Mole 12-16-02 4    RE: Possibility of a tie in final f... jsanb 12-16-02 7  They call him Moses frisky 12-16-02 6    RE: They call him Moses Loree 12-16-02 8        If Brian didn't win the 1st Immunit... TribalTex29 12-19-02 9

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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-14-02, 05:36 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Possibility of a tie in final four?" I think its possible but unlikely (and I'm going to be touching on several other things here...) Also, it is a way for the betrayal we all expect to happen WITHOUT the betrayed person necessarily being voted out (IE Helen and Jan could vote Clay, but Brian betrays Helen by voting for her with Clay. Helen could win the tiebreaker and Clay could go, but Brian would have still betrayed Helen) Also, we are only considering Brian betraying Helen. However, we all think he is too smart for that, that he would pull a Rich at F3 and have Clay or Helen take him to the final 3. I think a betrayal of Brian by Clay or Helen is also very possible, or a betrayal of Clay (instead of Helen) by Brian. Any of these scenarios could provide for a heated final TC as well And I've said that I think if Helen goes 4th Brian will have a rough time with the jury against Clay when Helen and Ted compare notes, the same is true if Brian betrays Clay and he and Ted compare notes Basically, I don't think things are quite so cut and dried as they seem   Top

BaquaR13 1336 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 12-14-02, 05:58 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Possibility of a tie in final four?" Helen goes fourth, we know that. But the only reason she does is because Jan wins immunity. Now, because Jan has the immunity necklace she feels safe enough to vote with Brian and Clay to eliminate Helen. If she didn't have immunity, however, she would probably vote with Helen to force a tie because she would feel vulnerable herself. We have been foreshadowed of Jan's actions in the last episode. Jan mentioned both that she and Helen had a STRONG friendship and that she had never won immunity, both will become inaccurate next episode. The Reality Show Queens!! BaQuAr13   Top

Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 12-16-02, 01:52 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Possibility of a tie in final four?" Agree Baquar, Jan would vote with Brian and Clay if she was safe. Why vote outside of the power group if you are in no danger. All could change, IMO, if they knew how tie-breakers were to be decided. ex. Jan has immunity, and they know the purple rock is coming for them if they dead-lock a tie. Then Jan can force the tie to come by voting against Brian/Clay and with Helen. She would be the only one safe from the vote, therefore she can use that opportunity to give Helen, a 2/3 chance of making it through the tie. Would she do this though? Who knows, and they are not sure of the tie rule, so I doubt this will happen. I just don't see this F4 voting for a tie. If either Clay (doubtful) or Helen (probable) goes next, it will be 3 to 1, IMO.   Top

phonarr 29 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 12-15-02, 00:19 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Possibility of a tie in final four?" Jan's lack of stategy talk has bothered me for a while too. I can't everremember her voting confessional ever being aired (although I haven't yet seen EP12- gotta love Aussie broadcasting). Is this because all she says is "... told me to vote this way to keep myself alive" or does she actually take an active role in the strategy?   Top

Masquerade_Mole 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 12-16-02, 01:29 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Possibility of a tie in final four?" I don't care what Snewser says. I think there's a strong possibility of a tie vote at next tribal council. It is my sincere hope that Brian gets screwed with the purple rock this time.   Top

jsanb 178 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 12-16-02, 05:28 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Possibility of a tie in final four?" Why, because he is the best player of this season, and you want some random act to take him out when the other players who have had plenty of opps to take him out refuse too? Jan does not deserve this game, and Helen blew her chances also by not taking out Brian in previous TC's and Clay in the last TC. Clay being so stupidly lazy doesn't deserve it either. Are you some sort of UTR fan that likes to see a purple rock determine the winner(like what we saw in S4)? Peanut Butter Jeff "If you thought S3 was bad just wait until S5."   Top

frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-16-02, 04:22 PM (EST) 6. "They call him Moses" Brian says in a confessional on the CBS video archive that his tribemates call him "Moses." "Must be the beard, I dunno, I'll take it as a compliment." I think these ladies are so brainwashed by Brian that they just won't stray. Helen thinks Brian is taking "H" all the way. Jan foiled the last opportunity to throw the change-up in Ep 11 with Helen and Ted. They're staying put. It would stir things up a bit though, wouldn't it, if Brian got stoned.   Top

Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-16-02, 06:09 PM (EST) 8. "RE: They call him Moses" Ted was certainly surprised once he watched the show and saw Brian's confessionals. And we know Ken was not impressed when he saw Brian making fun of him on TV. I wonder how the other final 4 feel when they watch Brian on TV now? It could be very interesting to see how they interact at the reunion show. I think alot of people voted for Brian thinking he was this great guy and they are now having second thoughts.   Top

TribalTex29 63 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 12-19-02, 00:27 AM (EST) 9. "If Brian didn't win the 1st Immunity" ...then I think he'd be gone. The remaining four would have to know he is the strongest. But I think he does win, Helen goes, and then knowing that he has Jan and Helen's vote against Clay, he'd have to take Clay along. Anytime we see an alliance where you are sure that the last two bootees will vote a certain wway, you know it will be the opposite. Editing exists to show lack of outright betrayal to throw off the viewer. That also makes me think Ted votes for Brian, because you saw how bold-faced Brian was in his lying to Ted the night Ted was booted. And Helen's discussions with her husband lead me to think that she doesn't vote for Brian, although I see no way she could vote for Clay over him. Now the question is... why was Brian's wife Charmaigne angry enough to hit him, because he didn't win the money, maybe, maybe not. We all know the prospect of coming into a fortune can change people's attiude towards each other. I'm still pulling for a shocking twist that lands Jan in the final two, with a somewhat secret alliance with Brian that she had all along. That would be fun. I never saw Vecepia winning, and that purple rock fiasco of last season really disappointed me.   Top

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