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"*** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***"
IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 07:41 PM (EST)
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"*** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Please use this thread for EP7 comments before 12:00 EST... ___________________________________________________SurvivorBlows.com provides this thread as a service to two groups of people: 1) People who want to post and read about the episode as it is being telecast across the various time zones. If you can't wait for the show to appear in your time zone, read the 'East Coast Spoiler Thread' for an on-the-fly commentary. 2) Those people who want to access other posts on the Spoiler/Speculation board but do not want to see spoilers before the show is telecast in their timezone. Please do not post any commentary about the episodes as they are telecast in threads other than this one. Everyone is welcome to post on this thread! It's like Spoilers, Fanatics, and Bashers boards all in one!
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:04 PM (EST)
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1. "Previously on Survivor..." |
CG Speculates about merge... Robb gets upset at Penny... and Ken... Robb gets busted about bananas... Penny gets annoyed at Shii Ann... Robb wins the feast... CG wins the immunity... Dood hits the road... 10 are left... Tonite one more will go...
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Elwood 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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10-31-02, 08:18 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
I REALLY hope Shii Ann doesn't go now! I love that she spilled it all to Clay!
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:19 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
I find myself staring at Ken's eyebrows now after that beefcake photo of him. They are making it look like Ken and Shii Ann are close. And they don't trust Penny because they think she is sneaky. Erin is keeping her eye on both Ken and Shii Ann. They got the paints and it just seemed to be accidental that it turned out male/female. Ken and Helen were both secretive and didn't want to give their tribes secrets away. But Shii Ann became the motor mouth and blabbed everything to Clay. Clay told her they wanted to grab Jake and one other to take control of the game. Shii Ann said to pick her. She really ratted out Penny. But she said Ken had been her protector.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:19 PM (EST)
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4. "SJ Night 18" |
Erin and Jake lament how hard it was to eliminate Dood...Erin is suspicious of Ken and Penny... Shii Ann and Ken talk about Penny being sneaky... Shii Ann (confessional) talks about Ken being a big target as an immunity threat... SJ Day 19 Tree Mail Body paints... only allowed to pick one color... not allowed to share colors with others... They all got to meet Jiffy at the big circle... Jiffy says that they are going to meet to get to know each other better... Tribe members are matched by color... they meet in circle then go to a secluded part of beach to get to know each other... Jan and Jake Brian and Penny Clay and Shii Ann Ted and Erin Helen and Ken Two couples get to go visit each other's camp... Helen can't believe the hut structure... how close their water is... that they have chickens... Shii Ann and Clay vist CG camp site... Shii Ann spills her guts about the SJ politics and post merge voting strategy... Shii Ann is a subtle as a brick... thinks Clay is 'sympathetic'... Clay invites her to vote with CG. Back to the circle... Shii Ann tells the group about how nice the CG camp is and Helen admits that the cave is nicer... Shii Ann, Clay, Jake, and Jan are revealed to be the ambassadors and are asked to choose which camp to live at... Jiffy says that 'both tribes' will live at the same beach... doesn't sound like a 'merge'... The tribes are moving to the CG beach camp site...
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clemsonbeav 4208 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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10-31-02, 08:21 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
He never said "You are now one tribe" though. They're still SJ and CG.
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Elwood 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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10-31-02, 08:21 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Well I didn't hear JP say they were one tribe, just that they were living together, which is what many spec'd.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:31 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Yes, I don't think they have new buffs yet. Do they?
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clemsonbeav 4208 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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10-31-02, 08:33 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Remember the title..."Assumptions" (I'm pretty sure that was it)
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:21 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
It seems like Clay and Shii Ann made the big decision to choose the cave camp. Ken and Helen hardly got to say anything. Shii Ann is becoming her usual bossy little self. I think she will self-destruct. No wonder we see Ken accusing her of betraying them.
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clemsonbeav 4208 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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10-31-02, 08:28 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Great...drunk people in Thailand.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:29 PM (EST)
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19. "Food and Booze..." |
the TWO tribes go to the beach... still wearing their same SJ and CG buffs... but think that they have 'merged' they choose an name... Chuay Jai...They get foos and booze... fruit cheese crackers... they haven't clued in that they have their old buffs on! They all meet and say that they are 'aal family'... Penny is really suspicious, though... Shii Ann feels relieved... Plays the race card with Ted... tries to link up with ted as a fellow minority... Shii Ann says everyone on SJ (except Jake and Ken) 'tortured her socially by ostracizing her'... Ted tells her that she is welcome to join CG... Erin is shocked about how fun the CGs are... Jan gets looped... pitches over onto the sand... they all start singing (really badly) Shii Ann does a lounge lizard improv thing... Ted doesn't drink alcohol... complains about Ted's guitar playing which isn't so good when he's blitzed... Brian heads off down the beach to go for a puke... Ted rides co-pilot with him... male bonding stuff (no grinding - thank gawd!).
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Elwood 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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10-31-02, 08:36 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Wow, it just seems like Shii is being set up hard for there to be an IC by tribes, and only the losing tribe voting, thus SJ voting Shii out 4-1. It's an ugly feeling.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:32 PM (EST)
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23. "They Haven't Clued in Yet..." |
... half way thru the episode and they haven't noticed that they did not get new buffs...They think that a conventional merge has occured but Jiffy said 'both tribes will live on the same beach'... not 'merge'... This is wierd... I wonder if they won't figure it out until after the IC...
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:39 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: They Haven't Clued in Yet..." |
Ice, I think you might be reading too much into the lack of a Jiffy sound bite and new buffs, but maybe that's just me
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:40 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: They Haven't Clued in Yet..." |
OK, guess it was me
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:38 PM (EST)
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26. "Day 20..." |
Brian wakes up looking sheepish...Ted asks him if he wants some wine... Brian says he feels like Jan... Brian and Shii Ann go off... Brian thinks he can use her as part of 'his kingdom'... Brian asked if she'd vote six against Penny... Ken confronts her... Shii Ann tells Brian that Ken is pressuring her... Shii Ann says that she assured CG that she is voting against Penny... Ken confronts her and Penny says 'she can't make up her mind'... brilliant strategy, Shii (IDIOT!)... she says to Ken she is aligned with Ken and Jake but not Erin and Penny... Ken reads the riot act and explains how the voting works Shii Ann says that Ken is trying to act like an interrogating cop and decides she won't discuss things with Ken anymore...
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:46 PM (EST)
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34. "Tree Mail..." |
Convicts story... nice 'new challenge idea' Mark!Shii Ann assumes 'this is definitely for individual immunity' Jiffy takes the immunity idol from Clay... Jiffy asks if 'both tribes' living on beach is good... somebody says 'merge'... Jiffy says 'merge... I didn't say merge'... Shii Ann looks stricken! I love it... they all fell for it! MORONS! You didn't get new buffs! Tribe members are in cages hand/foot cuffed, keys are out side, tribe members must use sticks that they tie together with strings to get keys (three for each contestant) once all keys obtained and hand/foot cuffs removed, tribe members must dig out from under cage... Pretty even through out...14 to 14 at end... CG drops last key on ground... drags it in... CG gets to start digging first... hole dug... CG is out while SJ still scrabbling for last key... Shii Ann looks like she feels like a total idiot... ... AND WELL SHE SHOULD!
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:38 PM (EST)
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27. "Brian" |
Brian seems to be the Richard Hatch from his little convos with the camera. It's his kingdom and he is subtly controlling and leading the tribe.Shii Ann wants to help the other tribe vote Penny out. Ken is upset that he has been defending Shii Ann and now she is doing everything they warned Ken she would do. Ken told Shii Ann she will screw the whole tribe if she votes against Penny and Erin. She likes Ken and Jake. But she will hurt all of them.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:46 PM (EST)
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33. "IC" |
They leave for IC and the monkey sneaks into camp and goes through everything.Jeff is now telling them that he never once said MERGE. They are surprised and Shii Ann seems to be swallowing hard. LOL! I bet the purple tribe is upset they got rid of Robb now. They are still competing as teams. He could have helped them now. Shii Ann is certainly not trying to throw this challenge. Chuay Guan wins! Looks like bye bye Shii Ann.
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clemsonbeav 4208 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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10-31-02, 08:47 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: IC" |
I dunno...methinks Penny goes 3-2 over SA IMHO(maybe)
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clemsonbeav 4208 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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10-31-02, 08:40 PM (EST)
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30. "Monkey Thief" |
Maguilla...don't steal their food!
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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10-31-02, 08:49 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-31-02 AT 08:51 PM (EST)Okay, it was a surprise and all, but the moment Shii Ann broke away from her tribe, they should've just made it a merge. Instead of a big giant tie breaker or a complete tribal betrayal, we now get an anti climactic tribal council. I know that's just what I was hoping for. It brought down what could've been a GREAT show to the level of a WHO CARES show. But I guess that's been typical recently. ----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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10-31-02, 08:57 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-31-02 AT 08:58 PM (EST)Hrm....maybe not as anticlimactic as I thought.... Pleeease let it be that witch Penny! Edit: Darn. ----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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Elwood 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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10-31-02, 09:05 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
My thought's exactly. Now instead of not knowing Penny, Erin and Jake at all, I really despise Penny's being on the show, see Erin as Penny's lapdog, and kind of feel sorry for Jake, since I'm kind of respectful to him and his words (that we've seen).
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 09:13 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: The vote" |
MB always hated it that they voted off the strong players that he liked. He wanted people that were going to try hard and not just slide by because they were no threat. This may be a good way to encourage that. Too bad the tribes didn't know this earlier when they were voting off the strong purple people. They have to be kicking themselves. LOL!
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 08:59 PM (EST)
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41. "TC" |
Jiffy gloats about the little twist...Asks how they felt... Erin is shocked... Storm whips through the set... blows Jakes hat off... thunder storm... Jake says they will have to rethink strategy (no shit!)... Jiffy asks if info exchanged between tribes... Erin and Penny talk about trust issues... Shii Ann begins whining... 'this is not a tribe unified'... tells Jake and Ken she watched their backs... calls Penny 'manipulative'... Penny says she chose not to vote out Shii Ann when she could have... Penny repeats that SJ loyalty should have had precidence... Shii Ann makes a lame plea for Jake and Ken to look at whole 18 days and she promises to remain loyal and that she has insight into CG... Vote time... Shii Ann - votes Penny (big surprise) Penny - votes Shii Ann (ditto) No other votes shown... Vote counting (oooooh the suspense ) Shii Ann Penny Shii Ann Shii Ann Penny looks pretty smug... Shii Ann says 'good luck, you guys' Shii Ann played the victim and ultimately was the victim... The victim of her own brutally inept attempts at machination!
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melverine 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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11-01-02, 00:38 AM (EST)
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65. "RE: MOST.DESERVED.BOOT.EVER" |
I agree,Shii Ann was robbed basically, I know you definitely should never assume in this game, but this is a mindblower. If they had stayed in the same original format I believe that Shii would have lasted a lot longer, Penny would have been gone and then Erin, the biatches... then she would point out to Clay and Helen that Ted and Brian have a pact because it is soooo obvious and she is smart enough to figure that out...so Clay and Helen would join Shii, Ken, and Jake... and that would've made the final 5...now since Shii is gone it looks like Penny will squirm her way into something and it will probably be Penny, Brian, and Ted in the end. Ughh...if Penny wins the whole shabang, Jake and Ken would probably be kicking themselves for their decision tonight.
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mookiemeister 284 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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11-01-02, 03:46 AM (EST)
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69. "RE: MOST.DESERVED.BOOT.EVER" |
Shii Ann assumed too much and plotted too early. She could've befriend the CG members without ally with them. Also, she should've waited at least until after the challenge to cozy up to the other guys.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 09:08 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: *** EP7 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
I have to say that this was the most enjoyable Survivor episode that I have ever seen. You could just SEE what was about to happen to Shii Ann. The looks on their faces when JP told them it wasn't a merge...Now didn't ANYONE have the bleeding brains to THINK that JP hadn't used the word "merge"... Didn't ANYONE ask "Aren't we going to get new buffs?" Oh well, I was wrong, and I owe Outfrontgirl a drink big-time. P.S. WEBBY!!! For your Spoiler Island game, we're going to have to count anything Outfrontgirl posts as SOURCE material and not speculation anymore!!!!
"All of us necessarily hold many casual opinions that are ludicrously wrong simply because life is far too short for us to think through even a small fraction of the topics that we come across. -- Julian Simon Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 09:47 PM (EST)
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54. "I've gotta say, Dawg" |
This is one of those times I feel really good, because I posted this Saturday night, and the basics were right (except they went to both beaches and Ken wasn't Shii's target, and DevilPenny debuted out of invisible land):"This is how I envision it going down: The merge will be delayed by one episode. Only the jury will make the merged tribe, but the first juror will get the usual six days with the Final Two because they are sleeping on the same beach and interacting. The pairing up at RC turns out to be much symbolic ado about nothing--forming new relationships, blah blah blah. They all go to the same beach and some get wasted. They assume the merge will be announced at the IC. They all think there will be a tie vote. Diabolically, MB allows them a day between the quasi-merge and the IC/TC in which to form new relationships with backstabbing potential. Surprise! Biggest Surprise ever! The immunity is a straightforward tribal competition with losing tribe voting out a member. Nothing new except that they spent the last two days assuming the IC would bring a merge, individual IC, tie vote, possible purple rock or betrayal. In a stunning demonstration of Instant Karma, SJ loses IC because they booted their challenge MVPs, and Jiffy's questions about why they were booting Robb when he was winning their challenges for them become oh-so-ironic in retrospect. SJ boots Shii Ann in a TC so unsuspenseful that there's little or no time spent trying to convince us Erin's getting the boot. SJ hands Shii Ann the Kelly Goldsmith award for being a devious ##### and fraternizing with the enemy. YESSSSS! And no source whispered this to me unless you count a couple of good beers... And now Dawg has promised to get me drunk on Halloween!
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-31-02, 11:29 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: I've gotta say, Dawg" |
LOL, dabo, at voting themselves down to parity!But what do you make of this teaser for Ep 8 if there's no merge? Members of the two original tribes consider forming alliances with some of their new mates. This is what made me decide the merger would be only delayed by one episode. a) we have the word "original" as if to say there's something else, i.e. a merged tribe. b) why would they even think about alliances with their "new mates" after what happened to Shii Ann--unless they have reason to think the whole group votes? Without the opportunity to vote together, an alliance isn't worth much. I think Burnett would rather see a brief pagonging than a tie merge episode with a random draw. Why do I say brief? Maybe it will go all the way, maybe not, Burnett didn't know when he filmed it. After S4, we saw that players weren't content to be last place in the alliance: soon it will be time for the CG players who feel threatened to ally with the SJ remnants who are playing the game hard enough to save themselves. These people all saw S4 and the fate of the Rotu 4 (that was 6); that's why Brian and Ted have to be so careful...
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-01-02, 00:09 AM (EST)
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64. "Agree" |
I totally didn't expect Shii Ann to try such a dangdumb strategy, she pretty much cut her own throat merge or no merge. I mean, duh, even if she made the final two, why would any of her original tribemates on the jury vote for her if they thought she'd sold them out? Didn't work for Wigglesworth either, and she only fell into the situation, Shii Ann walked into it eyes wide open.I think I'll save some time here though -- okay, OFG, you convinced me, the individual immunities start next week. Bad as Pagonging may be, MB would rather avoid ties going to deadlocks if possible. ARRRRRRR!!!!
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-01-02, 01:27 AM (EST)
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66. "Survivor fan trickertreaters" |
I have no idea where this story should go, so I'll tag it on to the all-purpose thread.A lot of you know I moved to Hawaii this summer. We live in a neighborhood with kids so I figured we'd get some tricker-treaters during Survivor, which runs at 7 here. So I handed my husband the treat-dispensing duties out on the lanai. Meanwhile, I'm in the LR watching on our 30" TV screen, and since there're only French doors between me and the Candy-giving, with no curtains, I knew people could see in. but figured they wouldn't pay any attention, would grab the candy and run, right? All of a sudden I hear the unmistakable sound of a SKATEBOARD coming down our long concrete driveway; then a group of about 5 pre-teens and teens are up the stairs trick-or-treating from my husband ... UNTIL they saw what I was watching! Then it was all, "hey, they're watching Survivor. Wow, Survivor!" They all pressed their faces up against the French doors, and one guy was knocking on a pane, ... so I opened the door and said Hi. "Hey, did they kick anyone off yet? Well, here's my phone number (rattles off phone number I only half hear)--call me when you find out, OK?" Too frickin funny. And my husband thinks I'm the only Survivor-watching freak in these parts!
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-01-02, 02:05 AM (EST)
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68. "LOL!" |
It's official, Survivor-watching-freaks are everywhere!
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