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"Disqualification?"
SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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10-02-02, 06:23 AM (EST)
 
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"Disqualification?" |
Okay, I haven't really read through the spoiler material here, so if I repeat something already said, bear with me (and direct me to it!).I am thinking that in the Reward Challenge, Robb's actions of choking Clay get him penalized OR himself and his team disqualified. This would account for Robb's bitterness in calling (someone) a little punk, etc. We know that MB said that JP had to act like "an NFL referee". What do NFL referees do? Throw flags and penalize someone (especially someones wearing Cleveland Browns uniforms, but I digress). So let's say JP penalizes Robb, PurplePeople lose the challenge, and Robb reacts. Your thoughts? 
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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sleeeve 3456 desperate attention whore postings
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10-02-02, 10:59 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Disqualification?" |
> This was backed up
>by the fact that at
>the time the TV Guide
>listings did not indicate "the
>third contestant is voted off".
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>I've seen this added now so
>I'm sure someone is voted
>off. How soon they forget, lol. The week of Survivor 2 episode 6, just about everyone in the spoiling community knew that Mike was gonna be injured (thanks to a picture found on his homepage of his bandaged hand). However, the TV Guide listing said "a sixth person will be voted out of the tribe", and so speculation continued about who would be voted out... some people felt that Mike would be voted out when his injuries made him a less valuable member of the group. Others argued that now was the perfect time to get rid of someone strong, since the merge was about to happen. Still others felt that Mike was a red herring, and ultimately Ogakor would continue to lose challenges, and Jerri might finally be voted out. As it turned out, we were all wrong. Mike's injuries forced him to leave the game. Moral of the story: Don't believe everything you read... just something to consider. That said, I do not expect Robb to be completely disqualified from winning Survivor... but from the challenge wouldn't surprise me. 
You never know what might be up my sleeeve...
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Rain Crow 374 desperate attention whore postings
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10-02-02, 11:58 AM (EST)
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7. "MB and JP quotes" |
MB and JP provided us with interviews that mentioned the RC Battleground.MB says:
In another “Survivor” first, series host Jeff Probst revealed to reporters that a confrontation among the castaways got physical. Burnett elaborates, saying, “There was some high tension running between certain testosterones, let’s say that.” Pressed for details, Burnett revealed that the confrontation -- which will be seen in episode three -- took place during one of the show’s contests. “What went down was,” Burnett says, “there was a situation where, for the first time, we allowed physical contact in a challenge, and it got a little out of hand. Jeff started feeling like he was refereeing the NFL, I think.” “We’ve never allowed a contest to include any physicality, and we thought, ‘Let’s see what happens.’ You know what, tensions run really high when big rewards or immunity are at stake, and you’ve got a bunch of guys with too much testosterone running around. It makes good TV, though, that’s the good thing about it.” “Jeff was able to tone things down by yelling at them. I’m trying to think of the words he used. I think the words he used were, ‘I’m beginning to sound like a broken record here, guys, chill out.'” Burnett also emphasizes that getting on Probst’s wrong side is not a good thing. “Jeff is in charge during the game. He’s not somebody you want to screw with, because he has a lot of power in the game. You don’t want to mess with Jeff. He’s totally, down-the-line fair on everything he does.” “When people step over the line, it becomes annoying, and they’re not doing themselves any favors, because remember, everyone’s out for themselves in ‘Survivor.’ They’re playing the game as a team or a tribe, but really they’re out for themselves. So every behavior that’s exhibited that could be looked at as negative, doesn’t do you any favors when it comes to who gets a million dollars.” JP says:
"Deception and betrayal - it's how you win the game and the tribes in Thailand knew that", Probst said during a phone interview. "Everyone was your best friend, so you couldn't trust anybody," he said. "It was harder to form alliances and true friendships. The people were more aware that this is a game. "There is one person I think will be compared to Richard Hatch," Probst said, referring to the devious first winner of "Survivor." He wouldn't say the contestant's name.
"There's definitely a couple people playing the game in a dark way," he said. "I think the key to 'Survivor' is adaptability. You have to be adaptable," Probst said. "Sometimes the key is to lose the immunity challenges." That's one of the things Hatch did to win the first game.
"It's not about integrity; it's about the game," Probst said. "When I need to, I'll stab you in the back." In Thailand, he said, "they played a lot smarter. I didn't see them making some of the same mistakes." It's important to eliminate emotions, he said.
I say:
All the bold face type is my emphasis. There is some good info here.
First off, we know the RC battle is between guys due to the quotes regarding testosterone. Perhaps Clay and/or Ted pushing Steph and/or She-Devil into the water was an initiating event, but I do not think it is a male/female confrontation. This almost certainly eliminates the Ted/Grande matter from affecting the RC. Next, we are reminded that Jeff has mucho power in the game, but that he is fair. If there there are ground rules laid down prior to the RC (i.e.Rule #17...It is illegal to choke the sh!t out of another survivor.") and someone violates them, then he will make a prudent and fair ruling. (Remember the boat race in the Marquesas when John and the General failed to beach their boat in the proper place and not arrive at the pole at the same time?...Jiffy reversed his original ruling once these infractions were pointed out.) Next, we have the comments about how people stepping over the line and exhibiting negative actions will not do them any favors. This can clearly be describing Episode 3 actions of either Frankenrobb or Grande. The next interesting comment is about the need to eliminate emotions. Good advice for either Frankenrobb or Grande. Not in the series of quotes above, but from some other place that I could not find, is a comment by Jiffy (I think) saying something to the effect that in S5, some of the contestants got a little confrontational with him. Could be Frankenrobb is describing Jiffy as a "whiny little punk'! Finally, I am intrigued by the statement that a couple of people are playing the game in a "dark way". My sense of playing in a "dark way" would be someone on the order of the Robfaddah. I am not sure we have been shown this yet for any of the survivors. Who are these two liars, plotters, and faithless backstabbers who have aligned themselves with the Dark Forces? My current list of possibilities could be Jed, Steph, Robb, She-Devil, Brian (business trip comment?), Grande, or Helen. I do not get "dark" vibes from any of the others, or am I just being naive? What does all this mean? I suspect that Frankenrobb suffers some sort of penalty or disqualification in the RC for choking Clay. Whether or not his "whiny little punk" commnet refers to Clay, JP, or someone else may be immaterial. This may also mean that Chewing Gum wins RC. If so, then there may be a lingering effect on the IC. Chewing Gum is pumped up from winning IC. I have noted that the previews of the IC show only Soup Jive. As you may recall, in Episode 2, we also only saw vidcaps of Jed and Steph competing for SJ and SJ won. Why do we never see members of Chewing Gum competing in the IC? I have a hard time believing MB would give us the IC winners twice in a row in such a manner. (I know, I know...we got the IC necklace shots in S4 one after the other!) Therefore I am leaning toward Chewing Gum winning IC. Thanks for staying with me during this long post. Hope it provides food for thought.
"Onward Thru the Fog"
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Q 2569 desperate attention whore postings
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10-02-02, 01:30 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: MB and JP quotes" |
I agree Rain, thanks for reminding us of this article/talks.Who is Richard II? Who is playing Dark?? Which Tribe will lose immunity to vote out someone??? Whos back is stabbed and who does the stabbing???? We shall see soon enough. I have some ideas though, Richard II is none other than... Brian Dark players are... Jed, Shii Anne as for Chewwy or Soooook throwing the challenge? I see reasons for both. 1) if Ghandia is soooo annoying, they may throw it to get rid of her, but they lose all the time so big deal right, If robb is going to get them in trouble, ie makes them lose the RC, then they could throw immunity since they are up by two already and use this a chance to control the game more. I can see this happening on episode three or four. This could tie into the playing the game in a dark way, being like Richard, and stabbing your friends in the back. Who orchestrates this move... You tell me.
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Yogi 1206 desperate attention whore postings
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10-02-02, 03:36 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Disqualification?" |
Has anyone mentioned this possibility.{Robb} He's a weak little whiny punk! Perhaps Robb is talking about Jeff P?
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10-02-02, 06:02 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Disqualification?" |
What if Robb chokes Clay to hard and that he is injured and has to leave the game . Who knows ?
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10-02-02, 10:30 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Disqualification?" |
Has anyone mentioned this possibility.
{Robb} He's a weak little whiny punk!Perhaps Robb is talking about Jeff P? Actually yes Yogi, Rain Crow mentioned that possible scenario in his post (#7, I think). Rain Crow: As per usual you've given a great perspective and several possibilities on what we might see tomorrow night. As a side note: you rock baby, how's about a date on Friday? *wink* *wink* Personally, I think that Robb's whiny punk comment is directed at either Clay or someone in his tribe who wasn't able to pull his end of the challenge and loses it for them. Say as an example, Jeb isn't able to hold off someone from the other tribe coming at him and falls in the water or hurts himself or something...they lose the challenge and Robb, having been chastised (or disqualifited for that matter) is pissed enough in the first place, he's the kind of guy that would transfer blame and emotion onto someone else. Therefore he would be calling the person who lost the challenge for them a "whiny punk". That's just the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the previews and looked at the vidcaps.
--thinks she'll just trundle back over to OT and leave the real spoiling to the experts
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings
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10-03-02, 06:51 AM (EST)
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19. "My general take on these issues" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-02 AT 06:53 AM (EST)Thanks for the comments, guys and gals! Most of my comments have already been stated: 1) This would account for Robb's bitterness in calling (someone) a little punk, etc. I put that "(someone)" in there because it did occur to me that Robb was talking about Jiffy. This is what caused me to think that Robb got his team DQ'd from this challenge. I also like Mistofleas' thinking about Jed (who I am looking at with a real skeptical eye for booting purposes). Mistofleas! "Trundle" back over here, you spoiling expert you! 2) I think the "dark side" players are from ChewingGum. Here's some spoiler stuff gleaned from various places: a) most of the weight loss spoilers involve ChewingGum members!
b) many other spoilers (wife interviews, beards, etc.) involve ChewingGum members!
c) Ghandia's stars include a lot of Purple People! So I suspect that most of the jury and finalists are ChewingGum people. Who could the dark side people be? Very possibly Ted and Clay, but also Brian, Erin, Ken, Shii Ann or Stephanie. 3) This whole thing probably has little outcome on the game or who gets waxed. I say this because of the emphasis given to the incident by JP and MB. As MB said, this makes for good TV. They've hyped it up tremendously. Something this hyped, however, rarely has a huge effect on the overall game. Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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ShowMeTheWinner 962 desperate attention whore postings
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10-03-02, 12:36 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Disqualification?" |
Wasn't there a picture with Robb and someone with a red beret? Wouldn't that mean that the SJ's win RC?
It had been determined in another thread that the pictures were taken during the survivor training pre-show because Robb had no facial hair and John was in one of the pictures.
Kathy O'Brien... The Sole Survivor! (I'd rather be delusional)
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