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"John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
I thought I'd post this bit of gossip that has found its way around Western NY. We have the "thrill" :-p of being represented by the pasty, BOOOOOORIIINNNGGGG, flat-toned, completely-out-of-place, John Stevens. Or is it Stephens? Every week, we get to watch his face all over the news. First, it's "Western NY's American Idol takes the stage again tonight! How will he fare?" Then they show us clips of his performances, complete with that insanely irritating finger snapping and tone-deaf tune. He sounds like an old-fashioned radio, doesn't he? Like you're hearing him through a pipe or something. Anyway, after the disappointment of finding out that for some silly reason, he is STILL in the competition, we get the "Western NY's OWN American Idol is still in the running! How will he do next week? Stay tuned!"

UGGH. It has been noted that his fellow students are gathering at the school and watching the show, and then they sit in the auditorium or the gymnasium or wherever they are watching, and they dial and dial and dial their little cell phones until the batteries fail or the 2 hour limit is exhausted. So there ya go, guys! He's only there because the vote is still to scattered among all those contestants to show the truth. I've heard his dad is a big-shot dermatologist. Maybe he's promised a discount for all the pimply young-uns?

I don't hate John. I just think it's going to be like Ruben's church choking the phone lines. It's obvious who would have won. The runner-up is running circles around him and always will. If John's school is going to support him so fanatically, they better be looking to buy hundreds of albums each to support his lousy sales if they think they're going to get him to any point where he can be an "Idol".

There's just no way that LaToya, Jennifer, Fantasia or George can lose to him. We almost got him out this week. Is there a boring Manilow song that he can squeak by with? It's too bad there aren't numbers to call to BOOT someone!

There - my rant is over. Thanks for listening!

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 RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... DmajA 04-16-04 1
   RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-17-04 2
       RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... pityme 04-17-04 4
           RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-17-04 9
               RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... pityme 04-17-04 19
                   RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-18-04 20
                       RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... pityme 04-18-04 40
                           RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-18-04 41
                               RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... pityme 04-18-04 46
                                   RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-18-04 48
                                       RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... pityme 04-18-04 49
                                           RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-18-04 51
                                       Shedevil rjrabbit 04-18-04 50
                                           RE: Shedevil shedevil 04-18-04 52
                                               RE: Shedevil rjrabbit 04-18-04 53
                                                   RE: Shedevil shedevil 04-18-04 56
           RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... ruby red 04-17-04 18
 RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... TeamJoisey 04-17-04 3
   RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... pityme 04-17-04 5
       RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... TeamJoisey 04-17-04 6
           RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... idlegossip 04-17-04 10
               Might I suggest........ anotherkim 04-17-04 11
                   Item C udg 04-17-04 14
                   RE: Might I suggest........ idlegossip 04-17-04 15
                       You're welcome... anotherkim 04-18-04 21
               RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... true 04-17-04 13
               RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-17-04 16
               RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... Mizz Eve 04-17-04 17
               RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... EnglProf 04-18-04 38
               RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... pityme 04-18-04 47
   RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... Jumboto 04-17-04 7
       RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... shedevil 04-17-04 8
           RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... Jumboto 04-18-04 27
       RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... applesugar 04-18-04 23
 Some excellent points have been bro... anotherkim 04-17-04 12
   RE: Some excellent points have been... applesugar 04-18-04 22
       RE: Some excellent points have been... mrc 04-18-04 24
           RE: Some excellent points have been... applesugar 04-18-04 25
               RE: Some excellent points have been... mrc 04-18-04 26
                   RE: Some excellent points have been... applesugar 04-18-04 28
               RE: Some excellent points have been... AugustGirl 04-18-04 29
                   RE: Some excellent points have been... okaychatt 04-18-04 30
                       RE: Some excellent points have been... AugustGirl 04-18-04 31
                           RE: Some excellent points have been... okaychatt 04-18-04 32
                               RE: Some excellent points have been... EnglProf 04-18-04 39
                           RE: Some excellent points have been... greenmonstah 04-18-04 33
                               RE: Some excellent points have been... AugustGirl 04-18-04 35
               RE: Some excellent points have been... shedevil 04-18-04 34
                   RE: Some excellent points have been... applesugar 04-18-04 44
                       RE: Some excellent points have been... shedevil 04-18-04 45
       My suggestion... anotherkim 04-18-04 36
           Hey! Drive My Car 04-18-04 37
               RE: Hey! anotherkim 04-18-04 43
           My 2 cents callalilly3000 04-18-04 42
           RE: My suggestion... mistofleas 04-19-04 58
 RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... idlegossip 04-18-04 54
 Enough already TeamJoisey 04-18-04 55
   RE: Enough already idlegossip 04-18-04 57
       RE: Enough already mistofleas 04-19-04 59
           **giggle** anotherkim 04-19-04 60
               RE: **giggle** mistofleas 04-19-04 61
                   RE: **giggle** mrc 04-19-04 62
                       RE: **giggle** chuckles1877 04-19-04 68
                       RE: **giggle** mistofleas 04-19-04 70
                           RE: **giggle** brvnkrz 04-19-04 73
                       RE: **giggle** TeamJoisey 04-19-04 71
                           Lemon juice anotherkim 04-19-04 72
                   X-Men? greenmonstah 04-19-04 66
                       RE: X-Men? mistofleas 04-19-04 69
 RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... theincrediblehugey 04-19-04 63
 RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... Bebo 04-19-04 64
   RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... brvnkrz 04-19-04 65
       RE: John Stevens' School Voting rep... grit 04-19-04 67

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DmajA 31 desperate attention whore postings
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04-16-04, 11:11 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
AMEN to everything that you just said!!! I completely agree with your opinion on him.

It is nice and all for his school to support him like that, but do they honestly enjoy listening to him perform??? I mean, come on!! No highschooler (besides himself) would ever listen to that type of music. His classmates need to take a good look at his face when he doesn't get kicked off and realize that he WANTS to go!! Oh well, at least now we know the reason why he has made it this far. Thanks for the info!!

Now we all know to do the same for every other contestant!! We should all pick a person (except for him) and vote over and over nonstop for 2 hours just to get him outta here. It's kinda funny though...now that there are less contestants..his school cant keep up!!! WOOHOO!!

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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings
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04-17-04, 01:27 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
Believe me, I am tired of that crap too, all of my friends and I will be voting for Jenn non-stop. They haven't voted before, so I hope it makes a difference even if it's a small one.


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04-17-04, 02:25 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"

DEAR SHEDEVIL:

The fact that you find John S. awful does not necessarily mean the rest of America should think that way. Vocal beauty has different connotations to different individuals.
You may be awed by the shouting, scrreaming vocal prowesses of your divas like Jennifer but many Americans prefer the cool calm voices of John and my Jasmine.
So might as well respect the opinions of the general public. And to them, John S. is not leaving. At least, not for now.

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04-17-04, 02:45 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-04 AT 02:47 PM (EST)

>
>
>DEAR SHEDEVIL:
>
>The fact that you find John
>S. awful does not necessarily
>mean the rest of America
>should think that way. Vocal
>beauty has different connotations to
>different individuals.
>You may be awed by the
>shouting, scrreaming vocal prowesses of
>your divas like Jennifer but
>many Americans prefer the cool
>calm voices of John and
>my Jasmine.
>So might as well respect the
>opinions of the general public.
>And to them, John S.
>is not leaving. At least,
>not for now.

(laughing so hard it hurts) Please start actually reading my posts and actually understanding them. I've never said any of that, and I've never implied it. Mahalo.


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pityme 46 desperate attention whore postings
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04-17-04, 11:54 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
06 - Jasmine Trias "When I Fall In Love" - gag, heave, hurl, spew, vomit.. .*bashes head into wall and prays for mercy*

07 - John Stevens "A Kiss Is Still A Kiss" - *see comments about Jasmine, they apply here too*

Gag,heave, hurl ,spew. It sounds like you really hate John S. and Jasmine.
I didn't have to read between the lines to kn ow what's on your puny thang called 'brain' (bleh).

Believe me, I am tired of that crap too, all of my friends and I will be voting for Jenn non-stop.
What 'crap' were you talking about? Weren't you talking about that crazy voting at John S. school?

Maybe ypu're the one who doesn't understand yoour own posting.

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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 00:04 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
>06 - Jasmine Trias "When I
>Fall In Love" - gag,
>heave, hurl, spew, vomit.. .*bashes
>head into wall and prays
>for mercy*
>
>07 - John Stevens "A Kiss
>Is Still A Kiss" -
>*see comments about Jasmine, they
>apply here too*
>
>Gag,heave, hurl ,spew. It sounds
>like you really hate John
>S. and Jasmine.
>I didn't have to read between
>the lines to kn ow
>what's on your puny thang
>called 'brain' (bleh).
>
>Believe me, I am tired of
>that crap too, all of
>my friends and I will
>be voting for Jenn non-stop.
>
>What 'crap' were you talking about?
>Weren't you talking about that
>crazy voting at John S.
>school?
>
>Maybe ypu're the one who doesn't
>understand yoour own posting.


Bashing of the posters here is not allowed, not to mention ignorant, and I will be reporting you for it. I understand perfectly what I said and not once did I say that the rest of America don't or can't like the people that I don't like, so you still haven't proven what you attempted to say about me. Also, I don't hate anyone, I just don't enjoy or like them. Read the guidelines.Your comment about my brain, is against the rules here. If you had read the guidelines you would know that or is it that you don't care to follow the rules?

Here is one of the guidelines (rules) that you have broken:

II. DO NOT ATTACK OTHER MEMBERS
Personal attacks on other members will not be tolerated. Challenging the points of view and the opinions of other members is permitted, but only as long as you can do so respectfully and thoughtfully, without personal attack or insult. If you cannot be tolerant of others' beliefs and opinions, then please avoid introducing, reading or participating in topics that lead to such discussions.

Insulting me is against guidelines, not once have I insulted you. I have the right to say what I said about the finalists, it's my opinion. I don't hate them but if I did, I have the right to, and you can't do anything about it. It doesn't make me wrong.



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pityme 46 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 02:38 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
(laughing so hard it hurts) Please start actually reading my posts and actually understanding them. I've never said any of that, and I've never implied it. Mahalo

Your post was very insulting too. So i should be reporting you too.

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04-18-04, 02:43 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
>(laughing so hard it hurts) Please
>start actually reading my posts
>and actually understanding them. I've
>never said any of that,
>and I've never implied it.
>Mahalo
>
>Your post was very insulting too.
>So i should be reporting
>you too.


You go right ahead, what I said wasn't a personal insult directed at you. Laughing- not an insult, it's just a laugh because I found what you said amusing... Asking you to actually read and understand my posts - still not an insult, you clearly misunderstood everything I said.


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pityme 46 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 09:57 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
To vomit at the mention of John and Jasmine is worse than saying you hate them. What was to misunderstand about it?

What's amusing to you does not necessarily mean it is so to other people. This case is an excellent example.
Some people will kill if you laugh at them in this given circumstance.

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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 10:14 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
LAST EDITED ON 04-18-04 AT 10:20 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 04-18-04 AT 10:16 PM (EST)

>To vomit at the mention of
>John and Jasmine is worse
>than saying you hate them.
>What was to misunderstand about
>it?
>
>What's amusing to you does not
>necessarily mean it is so
>to other people. This case
>is an excellent example.
>Some people will kill if you
>laugh at them in this
>given circumstance.

I had this long drawn out post just for you, but really what good would it do? You don't listen, you don't understand a word I say, and you take what I say and twist it the way you want it for the sake of arguing. Now I'm laughing again? ALOT. I will say one thing that will prove my point, that you don't understand what I write. Your quote of mine about "vomiting". Was my opinion on their performances,not them. So what you said above makes no sense.


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pityme 46 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 10:45 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
And calling somebody fake is not a personal attack, huh? A performance critique,huh? Give me a break.
You're the one probably who do(es)n't understand what you're writing about.
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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 10:51 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
>And calling somebody fake is not
>a personal attack, huh? A
>performance critique,huh? Give me a
>break.
>You're the one probably who do(es)n't
>understand what you're writing about.
>


I will say this one more time because you can't understand yet again, I can say anything and I mean anything I want about the finalists. It's allowed here.We are only not allowed to personally attack each other, which you have done, and I have not. If you don't like it, then talk to a moderator about it. I understand what I'm saying. What a silly thing to say. I've proven over and over that you are the one who doesn't understand and when I bring up a point and prove it, you drop it and try to find a new one like you just did.

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04-18-04, 10:48 PM (EST)
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50. "Shedevil"
Don't worry about it shedevil. You and I don't agree and you've never been rude to me. Anyone who takes the time to read your posts knows your character.

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shedevil 1 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 10:55 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Shedevil"
>Don't worry about it shedevil.
>You and I don't agree
>and you've never been rude
>to me. Anyone who takes
>the time to read your
>posts knows your character.

Thank you so very much rjrabbit, I really appreciate it. I'm just trying to figure out why out of a whole bunch of posts under this topic (including the topic itself) I am the one being harrassed about it.


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04-18-04, 11:02 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Shedevil"
I know but some people just aren't worth aguing with. They'll never see your side of it. Try not to let it get to you. You and I can have civil disagreements. Okay?

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04-18-04, 11:45 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Shedevil"
>I know but some people just
>aren't worth aguing with.
>They'll never see your side
>of it. Try not
>to let it get to
>you. You and I
>can have civil disagreements. Okay?
>
>

You're right, I'm giving up on that person. It's a waste of time and effort, It's a deal, we will have our civil disagreements.


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ruby red 4 desperate attention whore postings
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04-17-04, 08:34 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
Amen, Amen!!
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04-17-04, 02:11 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
Do you honestly think John Stevens is the only one who has a devoted group of friends/classmates/neighbors speed-dialing each week?

Is there another possible explanation for Camille?
Absurd as it seems, people were voting for her because of where she was born.

Face it, each contestant has fanatic friends, neighbors, classmates, church congregation, people who went to University of Washington, and so on.

When 25 million votes are cast, that all washes away. The efforts of 200 high school kids is not going to significantly change the outcome. John had consistently polled above the bottom three, so he really hadn't been that close to ejection before.

In other words, John Stevens has fans around the country who vote for him because they like him, they like his voice, and they want to see him perform on the show.

I take it you are not a John Stevens fan. But you must accept that they exist, and there are more of them than there are Matt fans, or Camille fans or JPL fans or Amy fans. And based on previous episodes, he's outpolled both Jennifer and LaToya. He's not dead yet!

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04-17-04, 02:26 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
Agree with you ,totally, TJ.
Where the hell have you been?
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6. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
I've been avoiding this board because it makes me crazy when people bop in and start inane new threads that duplicate the three dozen inane new threads started the day before.

Rule 1: NEVER start a new thread unless there is no possible place, and no possible thread, in which to place your wholly original thought.

A good rule of thumb, don't start a thread until after your 100th post.

Plus, there's been a change at work... they want me to (dare I say it?) ... work.


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04-17-04, 02:55 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
Gee, TJ, I apologize from the bottom of my heart for starting a thread before my 100th post!

I didn't realize that this board is run solely by people who have had over 1200 posts and assume that only THEIR opinions count. At the risk of getting you all fired up to run some sort of retaliation, I don't see why you have to be so obnoxious to those of us who also would like to have our feelings known.

It is not surprising that anyone would have lots of "people" who call and call and call. I was simply answering a question someone else posted about why John had made it so far. It doesn't completely explain why he is still there, but it doesn't hurt, either.

You're right - he must have some people out there who like him. Congratulations on the obvious.

I've seen so many message boards "run" by those of you who feel they have some sort of seniority and know it all, because you've been here to see all the posts since time began. Maybe some of us have recently found the board, you know? What is this, p*ssing contest? Do we have to put up with the territorial thing of the old dog coming around to "re-scent" the area because new dogs have come around?

For crying out loud, you expect someone to read ALL the posts and ALL the replies when there are 15 pages showing to review? What gives you the right to sit and complain? If you've seen the posts before, good for you.

Go ahead and blast me. I can take it. If more people could take it, there'd be less of this kind of bashing, don't you think?

Congrats on your 1200+ posts. Woohoo. There will be new people coming in here every day. You must get exhausted telling them all to stuff it, right?

BTW - this doesn't have to just apply to TJ. Anyone who feels it could apply to them too, well, maybe it does. Can't we all just agree to disagree and enjoy the boards? Why do we always have to have the power-hungry, self-appointed "monitors"? You feel you have to come in and spout off about new people so you can keep things the way YOU want them. Too much time on your hands, maybe?

I've said my piece. I even acknowledged that my post was a rant. Perhaps we should just all follow the old dogs and not have an opinion unless they approve? Maybe you grumpy people should start your own board where everything could be just as you wish. But then, would you be able to get along well enough to talk to each other?

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04-17-04, 05:08 PM (EST)
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11. "Might I suggest........"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-04 AT 05:11 PM (EST)

A. not getting into a snit--I don't think that TJ was referring specifically to you and only you. It's been an ongoing problem as ANYONE who has been around this board for any length of time would see.

B. Just read the front page and see if there are any related topics to your post. No one expects you to read the archived or old ones. Simply scanning the front page and reading any similar posts is sufficient. The reminders and such are done by people who can't ban you or punish you. It's sort of a courtesy. We'll be around long after this season of AI ends and we'd like to have as many people as possible stick around.

C. Know the history. The 100 post comment was merely intended to point out that we have many people, MANY people, who pop in after an episode, make an account, and make their first 4 posts new threads that have already been discussed. This is an ongoing, annoying problem. I might also add that repeated new threads that are of duplicate topics is against the TOS. It's a good idea in ANY community to get a feel for the way things work before one posts **if** you want to have an acutaly relevant discussion. I swear I think some people just lie to start new threads in order to see their name at the top of the board.

D. Relax and have fun. There are literally thousands of members on these boards and at one time or another pretty much all of them (except me, of course ) have made a mistake. It's not the end of the world.

DISCLAIMER--I don't pretend to think I know it all or assume that you have to listen to me. I am simply giving you advice. Take it or leave it. Won't hurt my feelings a bit if you make the wrong choice .


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--I'd post a link to the guidelines, but I'm off to go do my hair now.

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udg 3381 desperate attention whore postings
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04-17-04, 05:48 PM (EST)
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14. "Item C"
No one expects you to read every single message in the archives. However, it's always a good idea to read some messages (whether that means lurking for a while or reading a bit of the archives) to get a feel for a board before you start posting a bunch &/or complaining about how the board is run. The fact that you've never done that before doesn't change the fact that that's good netiquette (see http://www.fau.edu/netiquette/net/dis.html and http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule3.html and http://www.aol.com/nethelp/lists/mailinglistnetiquette.html and http://www.atis.net/netiquet.html for example).

---
UDG <-- hearts AKim!
Pretty manners, and such cute hair to boot!

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04-17-04, 06:55 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Might I suggest........"
I would like to thank you for a very well written response. I may be bringing baggage with me from other boards where downright bullies think they can run the show. I appreciate your input, and your tactful and decent way of doing so. I apologize to TJ if necessary - I suppose it would get annoying and old.

J.S. is a sore spot with all his air time and the fact that his voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard to many of us. To the rest who like him, I give them credit for whatever unique quality they hold that makes him tolerable. Perhaps I was too quick to post, and I DO understand the amateurs and how they don't know what to do.

I call a truce, but fully expect to hear from TJ, if he so chooses. It seems I deserve a rebuttal on these accounts. He called us "new" people some colorful things, which is what triggered the response.

Thanks again, Kim, for caring enough to post such a well-written reply.

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21. "You're welcome..."

keep in mind that we were all new here once (I remember when TJ was just a pup on the TAR boards ). The great thing about those who have been here long enough to have 1,000 or 5,000 or more posts is that they really love this place and work hard to keep it user-friendly. Sometimes that means stepping on toes, but it's never done out of maliciousness. We just get some real humdinger bozo newbies from time to time--THEY are the ones who get blasted er, corrected. I can assure you that TJ isn't a bully. Trust me. If you want to see a bully, I'll send some other people over here .

Glad you're staying around.

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--J.S. must GO!

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04-17-04, 05:45 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-04 AT 06:16 PM (EST)

I was simply answering a question someone else posted about why John had made it so far.

If that's the case, your post would have been better placed in the thread where the question was asked.

Nobody is getting "obnoxious" or pissy. Your reaction to TJs post is not only hostile, but rude and unnecessary. We like a clean forum, and the only way to achieve that is to point out to our new members what kindof posting behavior is acceptable. Most reasonable people have no trouble following the guidelines, and fit in very well. It's how we like it, it's how the Webmaster likes it, and it works here.

We want to attract new members, but we don't need 4 5 threads about John Stevens on the front page clogging the conversations. All we're asking is that if you want to post here that you respect the guidelines, and in doing so, respect the community.


I don't necessarily agree with the 100 post thing, but it was just a suggestion. We don't have to agree on everything, but we do have to be respectful in our disagreement.


Edited to change 4 John Stevens threads to 5 John Stevens threads. Ugh.

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16. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
I am nowhere near 1000 posts and not once has any of the people who have posted 1000 or more, been rude to me in any way, or made me feel unwelcome but maybe that's because I read the guidelines and actually follow them.

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17. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
"Do we have to put up with the territorial thing of the old dog coming around to "re-scent" the area because new dogs have come around?"

You have a way with words Bow Wow

I really don't know what your rant is about. I'm figuring that you posted something and were quickly told that there was an existing thread already on the topic. I've made the same mistake myself. It's easy to do here because the threads often turn into a discussion that isn't reflected by the thread title. Don't worry about it. I was chastized by the mod on another of this site's forums for calling someone's post "misogynistic." This forum is no different than any other internet forum. There is always a core group of posters who over time have gotten to know each other and tend to post mutual praises and inside jokes. It can be both intimidating and annoying to new posters. Just hang in there and perhaps you'll become one of the old dogs

As an old sailor in Puerto Rico once told me:

"If you want to hang out with the dogs, you have to learn to sleep on the porch."

Probably not applicable to this situation, but it refers to dogs and you used dogs a lot in your post, so I couldn't resist


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04-18-04, 02:26 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
LAST EDITED ON 04-18-04 AT 02:31 PM (EST)

*sorry!*


posting redundantly since * today!

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47. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
very well said, I'm with you.
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04-17-04, 11:17 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
"Absurd as it seems, people were voting for her because of where she was born."


This is to everyone who feels its "absurd" or wrong to vote because of their home state.
My family and I and pretty much all of my friends couldn't give a flying fu<k about American Idol and who wins it.
This was before the auditions were held here in Hawaii, and a couple of locals got on. Now we watch, and support the only way we can. Maybe you can't understand it but Hawaii is very special, we know what aloha really means. We only want the best for our local girls.

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04-17-04, 02:42 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
>"Absurd as it seems, people were
>voting for her because of
>where she was born."
>
>
>This is to everyone who feels
>its "absurd" or wrong to
>vote because of their home
>state.
>My family and I and pretty
>much all of my friends
>couldn't give a flying fu<k
>about American Idol and who
>wins it.
>This was before the auditions were
>held here in Hawaii, and
>a couple of locals got
>on. Now we watch, and
>support the only way we
>can. Maybe you can't understand
>it but Hawaii is very
>special, we know what aloha
>really means. We only want
>the best for our local
>girls.


Every place is special in it's own way and so are the people, and Hawaii is no better than anybody else. Since it's not a "Which place is the best to live" contest, I will continue to not even care where Jennifer came from and vote for her because I think she is the most talented of the group. If you and your friends don't care about "American Idol" and who wins then I have a few questions for you.
1. Why are you watching it?
2. Why are you voting?
3. Why are you here?

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04-18-04, 10:15 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
1. Why are you watching it?

>This was before the auditions were
>held here in Hawaii

2. Why are you voting?

>Now we watch, and
>support the only way we
>can.


3. Why are you here?

>"Absurd as it seems, people were
>voting for her because of
>where she was born."

Just read my original message and the one I first replied to again to answer yer questions.

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04-18-04, 09:36 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
Jumboto - I understand exactly what you're talking about. I'm from the DC area. I think Hawaii is very special. To me it's dream for me to sometime visit there. Anyway what I am saying is - I do not like Jon Stevens at all. But if he was from DC I would vote for him, just because he represents my home town. If Jasmine were from here I would too. It's like high school football you go and represent your school. So Jumboto represent your girl because she from Hawaii. I understand.
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anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings
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04-17-04, 05:14 PM (EST)
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12. "Some excellent points have been brought up..."
I cannot imagine why on earth people would vote for John Stevens, but it's their perogative to be wrong . The number of votes that are coming from his school wouldn't be enough to keep propelling him over the bottom three, so for whatever reason, a significant portion of the voters like him.

I can't imagine that he is the only one who has a huge local fan base voting for him. If I had someone in this area on AI whom I even remotely enjoyed, I'd probably do the same thing. I've voted on speed dial for a couple of contestants this year and I am not part of any great conspiracy.

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--so what if his dad is a doctor?

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applesugar 68 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 09:21 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
I gotta get in this. I am "almost new", and I got the same reaction from some of you about my posts. I actually apologived and still was getting "it" from some folk who like to "run the show". But it was not just from one person. My point is when the "newbie" makes that mistake not only one person informs them of the guiedlines. It seems like everyone comes down on them which sometimes causes the "newbie" to take offence. I understand being told about the rules but it's how it told is the problem.
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mrc 10113 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 09:47 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
Like it or not, newbies go through trial by fire b/c they are the ones most likely to make a mistake. Most people jump right in and start making threads and posting every thought that goes through their mind. IMHO, the keys to success here are:

1. Lurk for a while before posting. That gives one time to get a feel for the land, so to speak. Just like one wouldn't go to another country and try to get everyone to conform to their customs, one cannot come here and expect not to go through a period of adjustment, which includes learning the customs. Educate yourself before posting.

2. Have something intelligent to say. W/o stepping on anyone's toes, I personally hate threads that start "I love so-and-so" or "So-and-so is a b*tch." That immediately turns me off and puts me in a snarky mood. Others may disagree, but I like threads that are intelligent, funny, sacrastically clever, ironic--something that warrants me spending my time here.

3. Don't post duplicate threads. Ditto my last phrase. No one is asking new posters to look three pages deep in the archive, but for Pete's sake, at least look on the first page and see if another thread exists on the subject. Don't waste our time by starting another thread that is already under discussion somewhere else.

4. Respect your elders. Like it or not, those who have been here longer know how things work and deserve a modicum of respect. Give it to them.

5. Wear a thick skin. If you don't like what your seniors have to say or how they say it, be polite. It will win you more points with most than if you throw a temper tantrum.

That's not to say that you, apple, have violated these unspoken customs. It's just an explanation, from my perspective, of why some posters, not you in particular, have problems here.

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applesugar 68 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 09:53 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
mrc - all that was said already. In fact, 3 or 4 times. That's what makes the "newbie" act with a reaction. Sounds duplicate to me.
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04-18-04, 10:05 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
*shakes head and walks away*
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applesugar 68 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 10:47 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
Don't walk away mrc. Just making a point.
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04-18-04, 10:53 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
And here's what makes a gnarly, old "not newbie" react.... complaining about something again (akin to a duplicate), then giving attitude to someone when they try to help/explain. It seems to me that mrc was only trying to help. If you stick around here long enough applesugar, and I sure hope you do, you'll find that there will always be newbies that get their hands slapped more than once. It's because it is needed. This is a great board, and the only way to keep it great is for the members to help keep it tidy and fun. The moderators (the blue peeps) do not spend every waking minute monitoring the boards looking for violators. It is up to the community, you and me and mrc and TJ and AKim and everyone else, to help keep things fun, clean, tidy and civil. There is a learning curve for new folks. Some get it. Some don't. Those who don't either get banned or stop posting.

I see nothing wrong with what mrc wrote to you. I certainly don't see the need for attitude, but maybe it's because I'm a "not newbie". Or maybe it's because I haven't had enough coffee yet. Anyway, I do hope you stay around the boards. We're not mean. We just love our boards and want to keep it fun.


I'm done preaching now. Going out now to enjoy the beautiful weather.

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04-18-04, 11:21 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
Here's okaychatt, taking lesson to heart. "Lurk a while. Post a bit in established threads. Eventually earn new thread rights. Until then, read, post, and learn."

Do I get an "YGI" (You get it)?

One of the reasons I joined these boards was the civility guidelines. Petty snits and flamers bore me to tears.

Thanks for the fun of civil, passionate debate on world class matters like AI.

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04-18-04, 11:27 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
Here's an YGI for okaychatt. And a *high five*

Thanks for the fun of civil, passionate debate on world class matters like AI.

*snort*

You would think it was a world class matter they way everyone gets worked up about it!


Psssst - Like, don't vote for Jasmine, 'k? I heard she dumped her boyfriend. OMG!

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32. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
You mean it's not important enough to be on the presidential convention planks?! AI and Apprentice play significant roles in the nation's psyche!

We simply must band together to demand Kerry's and Bush's stances on the issues raised by reality tv.

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EnglProf 888 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 02:38 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
We simply must band together to demand Kerry's and Bush's stances on the issues raised by reality tv.

Ahhh YES! What we would learn about those two from forced RTW participation!! That would be spectacular.

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33. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
Should I do my comic guy impression again?


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35. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
I can never get enough of your comic guy impression, G-Monstah.

Word.

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04-18-04, 12:32 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
LAST EDITED ON 04-18-04 AT 12:36 PM (EST)

>mrc - all that was said
>already. In fact, 3
>or 4 times. That's
>what makes the "newbie" act
>with a reaction. Sounds
>duplicate to me.


By "duplicate" they mean starting a new topic that's already been started not saying something that may have already been said by someone else under the same topic.Just helping out.


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04-18-04, 07:17 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
By "duplicate" they mean starting a new topic that's already been started not saying something that may have already been said by someone else under the same topic. Just helping out.


Thanks shedevil but I knew that.

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45. "RE: Some excellent points have been brought up..."
>By "duplicate" they mean starting a
>new topic that's already been
>started not saying something that
>may have already been said
>by someone else under the
>same topic. Just helping out.
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks shedevil but I knew that.
>


You're welcome. I do what I can.

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anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 01:46 PM (EST)
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36. "My suggestion..."
LAST EDITED ON 04-18-04 AT 01:47 PM (EST)

would be to approach anyone who I feel is overly harsh via PM and feel out the situation. If someone flames me personally, I use the alert. I wouldn't post umpteen replies about how persectuted people are on a board or be so vague as to who, what, when and where that my reply could apply to anyone. We've had this debate mulitple times and it changes nothing. RTW policy is that duplicate threads should be avoided. Period. It doesn't matter how many people tell you not to do it, the point is, don't do it.

The mods try to keep everyone on their toes, but they have lives. None of them are paid. We appreciate their efforts. Many of the little things can be handled within the forums without resorting to the alert. That's the way the "old timers" prefer to handle things if at all possible.

Speaking only for myself, when I read the AI boards, I usually try to pick a few threads per visit and read. If I see a poster (new or otherwise) who is duplicating or repeatedly violating the TOS, then I mention it. I don't keep a running tally of who has been warned by whom. If three or four other people have said, "Don't do this" then surely the poster has gotten a clue by that point. I rarely if ever read all the posts on the front page---but I also don't start new threads in this forum except on rare occasion.

It would all be made much simpler if EVERYONE would read the posts before starting a new thread. It's just so much easier that way. Really. I promise. We're nice. It works in most of the other show forums. For some reason, this particular forum seems to just breed duplicate posts.


Another point (and I'm not trying to nitpick, I swear
): it would be clearer if you replied to the post you were responding to instead of the last post in the thread. Your response doesn't actually make sense when read as a reply to my reply to the original post, kwim?

Miscellaneous Ramblings
--BTW, Mistofleas is really old. I am still youthful by comparison....and Buggy? she's ancient.

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37. "Hey!"
I saw that! (and I rarely even come over here)
I am not old, I am fine wine, Sister!


Get yourself back to the Race thread! Where are your priorities today, Kimmah?

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04-18-04, 07:16 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Hey!"
this is what happens when you go snooping outside your domain, Queenie.

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callalilly3000 693 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 06:05 PM (EST)
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42. "My 2 cents "
As I am still a "newbiew", I hope that I can make a suggestion to the on going problem. It wasn't too long ago that I made my first thread. (thank goodness it wasn't a duplicate, though no read it , or responded) When I first registered to this board, they sent me an e-mail confirmation with my password. When I logged in, the rules/guidlines where not very clear. As it is, they are written at the top of the page in very small writing.

I think alot of people, including myself, are so eager to share our opionions with others, who also love AI, that the guidlines go unnoticed.

So, my suggestion is: When a new person registers and is sent an e-mail confirmation, the guidlines should be e-mailed as well. It should say something like "PLease read the guidlines before logging in", or something like that. I don't know,it may help, I would have read them, if they were in my face.

By the way, I know this has nothing to do with John Stevens, which I believe was the original thread, but as a read all the posts I thought I might throw in my 2 cents.

Calla

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04-19-04, 12:16 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: My suggestion..."
--BTW, Mistofleas is really old. I am still youthful by comparison....

Hey! See what happens when I take a weekend off fromt eh boards? I get called old. *points her finger and cackles* All you kids...offa my lawn!!

and Buggy? she's ancient.

Well, that's true.


--giggles

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idlegossip 116 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 11:11 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
PLEASE!! Stop posting to this thread already! I didn't expect to open such a can of worms. I aplogize, and I would like to see it die a fast death. Poor Shedevil is in the midst of something that never should have gotten so crazy. If we stop posting, this thread can disappear.......

I also don't know how to stop getting notified via email about every post that comes in --- ha ha ---- I would recommend that we NEVER check THAT box again!! (What I get for posting, eh?)

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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 11:24 PM (EST)
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55. "Enough already"
Who knew one grumpy response could generate such a donnybrook?

Despite the attack on me, I don’t have any interest in rebuttal, and hesitated responding here in hopes this thread would sink off the page. But it hasn’t, so I’m back.

I don’t think I’m a “power-hungry self-appointed monitor,” and I certainly don’t have too much time on my hands. I’m not a “territorial old dog” and I don’t think I called the new people “colorful things.”

Yes, I did b!tch and moan about all the inane threads started on this board. I think that was the nastiest thing said about other posters. And that was in response to a direct question from pityme. A little “threadjacking” on our part, and probably my first.

There are a lot of inane threads created on this board, far more than the other boards on this site. It can be very frustrating. Anyone who has been here more than two weeks can see that.

Oddly enough, my disdain didn’t apply to THIS thread. I found the original post interesting, which is why I posted here in the first place, even if it was to disagree. It’s the other 7 John Stevens threads that are inane. I don’t respond to the threads I don’t like, in hopes they fall back into oblivion.

My response to pityme included a “rule of thumb” that no one should begin a thread until they have 100 posts. That was unnecessary, but it was in response to a direct question about why I was avoiding this board.

The 100 post suggestion is not a rule on this site, nor should it be. New threads with new ideas are always welcome. But no one should start a new thread unless there is no other thread in which to place that wholly original thought. And while the number 100 seems pretty high, we all get there quickly enough.

The point was this: Members, new and old, should think long and hard about creating a new topic. New members should become acquainted with the modus operandi before inadvertently violating the guidelines.

You can backtrack and count the number of new threads I’ve started in the last six months, and discounting writing summaries and such, you probably won’t find a dozen. Why is that? Because folks here have usually started a thread that addresses my thoughts.

So have we had enough? I hope so, because I’m not coming back.


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idlegossip 116 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-04, 11:55 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Enough already"
Well done, TJ. Well done. I am humbled and appreciative of your response. PLEASE! Let this thread disappear already!
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04-19-04, 12:19 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: Enough already"
PLEASE! Let this thread disappear already!

Not until Kim apologizes for calling me old.

*pout*


--will not mention Kims actual hair color

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60. "**giggle**"
I'm really, really sorry, honey. You know I lvoe you. Plus, I was talking about OT-age. In real life, we all know that you and Buggy are among the youngest.

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--horror of horrors, Wal Mart doesn't seem to carry my hair color anymore. I am not amused.

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04-19-04, 12:50 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: **giggle**"
In real life, we all know that you and Buggy are among the youngest.

You're so sweet to humor the aged! *smooch*

horror of horrors, Wal Mart doesn't seem to carry my hair color anymore. I am not amused.

True story, back in the day when I dyed my hair, I heard rumors they were going to discontinue my color. I ran to Sally's and stockpiled (I used a combination of 3 different colors). Then it turns out they weren't going to discontinue at all! I spend 50 bucks and but didn't have to buy dye again for a year!


--doesn't dye hers anymore because her silver temple streaks are very X-Men

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62. "RE: **giggle**"
Please, for the love of all that is good and humane, PLEASE stop posting to this thread!!!

My wife likes for me to highlight my hair b/c it is a dirty brown color naturally. <bleh> My question is: does the spray-in highlight stuff that they advertise for summer really work? I don't expect to be out much this summer, but if I do go swimming, it might be nice to put some in and let it work naturally. Any advice?

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04-19-04, 05:05 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: **giggle**"
Sun-In is very bad for your hair! It actually creates holes in the hair shaft. Buy some real hair dye and have DW put in some highlights for you


My sister killed her hair with Sun-In. Nasty nasty stuff.

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04-19-04, 05:15 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: **giggle**"
My question is: does the spray-in highlight stuff that they advertise for summer really work

Why would anyone purposely try to be blonde?!!


--runs before blonde brazen kicks her butt

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04-19-04, 10:31 PM (EST)
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73. "RE: **giggle**"
Hey, I just got that.

*kicks all around but misses Misto because the remark was made 5 hours ago*


if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me.

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04-19-04, 09:42 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: **giggle**"
Lemon juice.

This thread really needs to die.
So I bumped it up again, of course.

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04-19-04, 10:27 PM (EST)
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72. "Lemon juice"
I've tried that before. All it did was dry my hair into a straw-like consistency.

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--once upon a time, I was striving to be blonde

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04-19-04, 04:43 PM (EST)
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66. "X-Men?"
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04-19-04, 05:13 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: X-Men?"
Monstah sweetie! Lookie at me...I'm in between Wolverine and Nightcrawler...how kickin' is that?!


--smooches monstah

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04-19-04, 03:12 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
I don't think the behavior of the kid's at John Stevens' school is surprising, or worthy of bashing. These kids probably show up week after week at the school football games and root for the team members who just happen to go to their school. Oddly enough, they want thier team to win, even if the other team has better players, and plays a better game. The folks in the stands cheer them on, in hopes that the cheering will somehow make a difference.

In the same way, they cheer for (and vote for) the American Idol contestant who just happens to go to their school. Good or bad, a win for John Stevens seems like a win for the school.

There are people in innumerable households across America that vote continuously for two straight hours. I doubt if a bunch of kids in a gymnasium account for more than a fraction of the votes that John Stevens receives.

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64. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
> The runner-up is running circles around him and always will.

And you don't think his fans were clogging up the phone lines? As someone who lives in said runner-up's hometown, I can tell you that it was practically impossible to get a cell signal for the two hours after each episode ended because of everyone hitting the phone lines to do their AT&T Wireless duty.

That's why I don't think one gymnasium's worth of effort is dramatically skewing the results. It wouldn't be the first time a school, or a town, or a large city, or a state, tried to vote predominantly for one contestant, and it won't be the last. It's just getting more publicized than the factions rabidly supporting the other contestants.


Snarky, smart, S7 Anti-Bootee Champ

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04-19-04, 03:21 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
I agree that the voting, based on the current rules of voting, are fair. But I really liked the idea of another poster in another thread to call in and vote for who we would want voted off rather than who we wanted to win.


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04-19-04, 05:02 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: John Stevens' School Voting repeatedly"
I still say that the producers should limit the number of votes from each telephone number.


But did anybody from American Idol ask me? Nooooooooooooo....

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