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"Challenge Speculation"
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09-12-02, 05:14 PM (EST)
 
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2. "RE: Challenge Speculation" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-12-02 AT 05:15 PM (EST)Ya, the Ep1 challenge has always had jsut one challenge. Until last season, that challenge was always for both immunity AND a reward (fireproof matches) but last season there was no reward, just immunity. Given the rainy season, I'd be shocked if this season's Ep1 challenge did not once again feature a reward challenge prize of matches. As far as the challenge itself -- it's always some type of multi-part team race (who can forget Diane's collapse at the end of the S3 Ep1 challenge.) I'd expect the entertainment shows airing either this week or early next week (or the MTV show airing today) to feature some fottage of this challenge -- they always have in the past (but then again, they've enver tried to keep the tribal makeups such a big secret before.) -SB
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09-13-02, 04:55 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Challenge Speculation" |
No, I would say that is Jan with her stupid hair-do.
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09-15-02, 08:01 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Challenge Speculation" |
I haven't seen this myself nor have I located any vidcaps, but this is from Forumsnet (possibly via another site)This is the post:
I was searching for something interesting to watch this morning, and the Susan Hawk promo came on the tvguide channel. Many things that I took from it are already known, but there were some things that struck me as odd. If anyone has vidcap capability, please paste the pictures to back this up.
1. Showed first challenge. We were right, the picture of Jeffy talking in front of the box is the first challenge. I think I counted eight people being talked to. (although I didn't have my new vcr plugged in yet, so I couldn't tape and count for sure).
2. As we figured, the challenge is some sort of water based challenge. There were two flower shaped(?) platforms, possible starting points?
3. The thing that bothered me is that the whole group was standing together on one platform. In years past, the two tribes came in from different directions, and then stood in separate places (like maybe on the two flower shaped platforms). I didn't have enough time to figure out whether it was just that the two groups were close together, or if they really were mingling. I am in the camp of tribes being selected on the first day, so this really stuck out. Any ideas from anyone? The only thing that I can think of is that maybe the challenge is on the first day? Doesn't seem likely, and why wouldn't the boys and girls come in from opposite sides, ala tribes. I don't know.
Has anyone seen this? One platform could be big!
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Rain Crow 374 desperate attention whore postings
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09-16-02, 11:09 AM (EST)
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9. "Some Observations" |
Great new photos! Here are my thoughts and observations of the photos.
Three interesting things in the first photo: First, all the men have their shirts off, but in the following photo they are wearing shirts. Another interesting thing about the first photo is that there appears to be something sitting on top of the box, but I don't see in in the second photo. Could this be an Immunity Idol or is it just some weird reflection off the water? Next, JP has no cap on his head. In the third photo just below, JP is still wearing a blue shirt and white shorts, but is now sporting a cap. 
Note also in the above photo, that there is a canoe on each side of this box, both close enough to the box that they are probably not tied to the edges of the large platform, so it appears that they must be on the beach. To me this means that we are looking at two different challenges although the box looks the same. I say we have two water challenges early on, and, knowing what we know now, probably for reward and/or immunity. Now, at all of the challenges I can remember, JP is always there to greet the tribes. Therefore, I think that the picture where the men have their shirts off is the start of the challenge and the one where they have the shirts on is probably after the challenge. In fact, a couple of the shirts don't even look wet and drippy. But if so, then why are so many people still on the platform rather than just the winning tribe? They look like they are having a meeting of sorts, or are focusing on something, except that Ted and the guy behind him are looking in other directions. Try as I might, I can only count 14 people for sure on the platform. I do not see Jiffy Probe in the group, and can identify only Ted, Ghandia, Ken, and Erin (I have some suspicions about Tanya, Penny, Shii-Ann, and Rob, but can't be for sure.) The Lotus Flower Platforms are interesting. They have 6 petals each and they have some mat-like thing placed on the center. Knowing how details play a part in the challenges, I would speculate that survivors must swim to the Lotus Flower Platforms and probably sit or stand on each petal as part of a balancing event. Well, that takes care of twelve people, what about the other 2-4? If there are 2, then perhaps one in each flower center and first tribe to complete the lotus wins? If there are 15 or 16 survivors, then what...sit-outs?, last one on the platforms gets the boot?, purple rock? As always I look forward to other comments. 
"Onward Thru the Fog"
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09-17-02, 09:32 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Some Observations" |
Thanks Raincrow- that is a very keen eye you got there!I also found the 6-petalled platforms interesting, and had the same thought that the contestants would sitting or standing on it. When I first saw the picture of the platforms, I actually thought it might support the 3-tribe theory, and that maybe there was a third flower platform off picture. But because of the number of people (14 as far as I can see) on the floating dock, I couldn't see how that would work. To my eye, it looks like the 14 people on the floating dock are conferring together-probably discussing about how to balance people on the petals without one side sinking. This signifies to me that this challenge is being done as a group (with the contestants cooperating). Based on these pictures, and assuming that the first challenge is supposed to pit women against men, my conjecture is that there is no final separation of the tribes until the second episode (hence the great divide). And that there is no elimination, since cooperation of the contestants would mean they are working towards a reward, not towards booting one of themselves off. Regarding the four missing people from the challenge picture- the two extra on the floating platform might be "floaters" to help get the balance right- and there might be another leg of the challenge to which we are not privy. My two cents. Rosey
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Rain Crow 374 desperate attention whore postings
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09-17-02, 12:15 PM (EST)
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12. "Disagreement" |
Hi Rosey, welcome to the Spoilers Board .Despite the cheery greeting, I must start out disagreeing with you. (1) There will only be two tribes. No evidence yet of three. (2) The challenge will be done as two teams, not as a group. There are two lotus flowers, so there will be two competing teams. (3) It is unlikely, based on vidcap evidence, that there will be a gender based tribal makeup at the first challenge. Survivors are seen wearing their buffs in many vidcaps and the genders are mixed. Buffs are always worn at challenges. NOTE: the only way we could be fooled is if the promo photos are "salted" with challenges from future episodes. (BTW, too bad the photos are so small that we can't see the buffs...darn-it!) (4) Based on Jiffy Probe comments about shuffling the order of the challenges or combining them, and the newly revealed Immunity Idol (which appears to be sitting on the box in one of the photos), and the size of the box, I think we can safely say that this is probably a combined reward/immunity challenge. (5) There will be a bootee the first episode. Jane Clayson on the Early Show has already stated that they will interview the first bootee on Friday. Hope I haven't discouraged you! Keep on posting!
"Onward Thru the Fog"
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09-17-02, 03:58 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Disagreement" |
Hey-Not discouraged.... well, maybe a little bit, but atleast I grabbed enough cajones to start posting my lame brain ideas, after years (since survivor one) of lurking. I'm still proud of that. And thanks for the welcome. To respond, and continue with a little debate: 1) I agree with you. It was only a brief folly on my part last night when I was thinking about the petal platform. I just don't see how having 3 tribes would work better for the game. Not to mention no one has identified a third camp site. But why only six petals on the platform???? One person to choose who will stand where? 2)Then why do they seem to be interacting as a group? Usually, you don't see the two tribes talking or standing so close together before a challenge(in fact aren't there rules against that?). All the contestants seem to be one lump as opposed to two distinct lumps. Of course, that could be because they don't have enough room on the platform. But you'd think MB could afford another plank of wood to make it bigger if he needed, right? 3)About the same-sex tribes... I know there is still alot of debate on this subject, and although there is evidence of co-ed tribes, that could very easily be from the next episode (the editing team has done that many times before). The question for me is- Why have the group separate themselves at the beginning? We have photo evidence of that, atleast when they arrive, and when they are listening to Jeff at the start. What for? What purpose is it going to serve the game in the short term? Why would they be separated, but not have them compete in a challenge? Is it just for the opportunity to mix things up and have them co-mingling before the tribes are formed? 4)You might be right, but that could very easily be a lantern instead of an II. The picture isn't clear enough. 5)You definetly have a point there... and if you're wrong, then Les Moonves has let MB's manipulative tentacles reach out far further then just Survivor. TRUST NO ONE AT CBS. Ah, the conspiracy rumours begin. Thanks again for "combination" welcome- smiling and jabbing at the same time.  Rosey.
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09-17-02, 12:28 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Some Observations" |
Just wanted to point out there is thread up by sweetpea of first pictures of immunity idol. This certainly seems to correspond to the first picture and is indeed the immunity idol.
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Rain Crow 374 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-02, 03:11 PM (EST)
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16. "Enlargement of group photo" |
Here is an enlargement of the group photo:
Looks to me like we can identify the following people reasonably well: Erin-right front in brown bikini
Ken-black shirt to Erin's right
Robb-black shirt to Erin's left
Penny-short legs, very white, behind Erin (?)
Jed-blue shirt with cape center front
Jiffy Probe-light blue shirt white shorts dark hair in center
Tanya-lower left with shirt tied around waist
Steph-left of Tanya
Ted-tall black dude upper left
Helen-dark hair high forehead left of Ted
Brian-behind Ted with lots of hair
Ghandia-to right of Brian
Clay-tan hat
John-white hat with dark hair above Erin Cluster of legs etc between Robb and Ken are???
Shii-ann
Jan
Jake (could also be behind John) So, where I origianlly could count only 14 and Jiffy Probe appeared gone, it now looks like they may ALL be there. Therefore, this is probably the first challenge.
"Onward Thru the Fog"
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09-20-02, 04:37 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Enlargement of group photo" |
This has to be epidode 2 or 3 because I sure didn't see this footage on Thursday....(anyone see floating flowers by the boats they rowed around the island) Also John can't be in there since he was booted off. This leaves unidentified: Jan, Shii Ann and perhaps Clay? Anyone got better eyes?
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