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"*** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***"
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"*** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
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05-16-02, 08:14 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
RC6 challenges from before They are now being shown the Saturn Vue that they will win. Assemble the tiki first Vee finishes first in that leg - Pappy last Break open coconuts next and fill a vial Sean finishes that leg first Next leg they must get down stilts from tree and walk on them Sean still in lead now looking for a key in coconut and Sean is still in the lead with the key. He opens the case and then shoots the slingshot and Sean WINS. Nobody else was even close. In fact I don't know if Pappy ever finished the first part. Sean is thanking Jesus and jumping around. Everyone is watching Sean in his new red Saturn Vue.
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05-16-02, 08:18 PM (EST)
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6. "Pascal is a wreck" |
or a sore loser, you chose!
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05-16-02, 08:23 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
UTR Vee wants to get everything out in the open.Can you say drama queen??? Vee leads meeting and gets Pascal to admit he will never vote Neleh out. Vice versa is assumed but Neleh didn't actually say so. Neleh inspires Sean's rant which includes the African American thing that was on the promo
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05-16-02, 08:31 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Pascall is discussing with Kathy how Sean and Vee have duped everyone from day 1. In his confessional, he mentions the opinions of their former tribe.He also says he's fed up with that "race" crap. Quote: "To heck with him"
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05-16-02, 08:32 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Day 35Neleh is telling Pappy it all depends on Kathy because she believes Vee and Sean will vote for her. She is acting pretty coy with Pappy so he will protect her. Pappy is now talking with Kathy and trying to put down Sean and Vee. Saying they are just skating along and don't work and he is bringing up what Gina had said about them, etc. Pappy is now really fed up with Sean and Vee. Boy, poor little Neleh really got to Pappy. What a little sneak Neleh is. She has Pappy all fired up against her enemies and working on Kathy to oust them.
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05-16-02, 08:38 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-16-02 AT 08:40 PM (EST)Vee and Sean get Rudy awards!
Edited to add that Kathy and Neleh get the Keith awards!
Kathy wins!
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05-16-02, 08:44 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Keith" |
So far everything is going according to plan.Sean won the Saturn Vue (RC) Kathy won the IC Now who will be booted? It really does depend which way Kathy leans. She is safe and she makes the decision. They are trying to convince us that she goes with Sean. So she will probably vote with N/P.
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05-16-02, 08:44 PM (EST)
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21. "kathy wins ic" |
As if we didn't know, but kathy wins the ic. it was close both kathy and neleh lost a tiki and had to go back. it is all about the kathy vote. n/p are angry at v/s for not saying that they are in an alliance. neleh is really working it. poor pappy can't stand up straight, much less think straight. sean is trying to persuade kathy that vee has flipped the swith and voted against him (quite honestly) and so far she believes him . so far . . . we shall see 
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05-16-02, 08:52 PM (EST)
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23. "Here's a first..." |
They are actually negotiating votes in the open during TC... Sean asks Kathy for immunity necklace and he and Vee won't vote for her. Vee says she won;t vote for Kathy if she gives necklace to Sean.Pappy calls Sean for spouting BS about no alliance with Vee. This is what this show has been missing... No more pussy-footing around at TC... Screaming... Yelling! Shhhhshing! This is better than the Italian Parliament!!!!
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05-16-02, 08:53 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Sean offers Kathy his loyalty in exchange for immunity.He is now explaining to everyone his strategy but not very well. He said "me and Vee". Now Vee (no longer UTR) is jumping in and saying quote "I will fall in line with that". Now Paschal is jumping in to point out Sean's hypocricy (sp?) about offering his and Vee's support when he was so adamant that they had no alliance. Sean defends himself saying his *use* of Vee is as a life-raft. The jury is getting a fine show! Now Sean wants to know why Kathy didn't know about P/N before. She admits she did but this sets off another round of words! Paschal is telling Sean to "listen and stop running your mouth" Sean's got the arms flailing and now even Kathy is a little p*ssed with him
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05-16-02, 08:57 PM (EST)
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28. "if sean would have shut up" |
if sean would have shut up, instead of saying that kathy didn't know about the alliance then he could have made it!way to give away a million bucks! now i really hope neleh nor pappy wins. go kathy!
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05-16-02, 08:55 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Kathy is still telling the camera she has to make the decision which way to go. Off to TC...The jury walks in. Jeff is pointing out that Kathy is the swing vote. Jeff says she is the only one who didn't need the necklace. He asks if anyone wants it. Sean pipes up and says he wants the necklace. He said if she gives him the Immunity necklace he will never vote against her. Vee said if Kathy gives Sean the necklace she will fall in line and vote with Sean and Kathy. Now Pappy is upset and pointing out that he thinks Sean is not sticking by what he has said before. Sean is still insisting that he didn't have an agreement with Vee before now. They are all arguing. The jury must love this. The non-alliance now have to turn on themselves. Sean better shut up or they will all want to vote him out. He is not helping his cause. Finally they are voting. Sean votes for Neleh Neleh votes for Sean Pappy votes for Sean Vee votes for Neleh Kathy votes for ? Of course they weren't going to show Kathy's vote. Sean is out of there..... Neleh has an evil smile on her face. I am really beginning to dislike that girl. Kathy does not look happy. Jeff is pointing out that the jury is all wearing black. Does it mean anything???
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05-16-02, 10:37 PM (EST)
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51. "Timeline" |
This TC took place on Day 36. The next tribal council (the first one in the F4) takes place on Day 37. Vee won't have long to be isolated, because she's toast.
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05-16-02, 09:03 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Unless Kathy can win 2 more Immunitys she so just gave away teh million dollars! And I too am really beginning not to like Neleh and even Pappy a bit. They both sat there this episode and berated Sean and Vee about "having an alliance" yet THEY openly told everyone they would not vote for each other. Can we say Pot, Kettle, Black?  *sigh* this show makes me nuts Cin 
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05-16-02, 09:08 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
After the performance by the others at TC I think the jury would give the win to Kathy if she makes it to the final.
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05-16-02, 09:08 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
So..Sean got voted off, right?
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05-16-02, 09:23 PM (EST)
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43. "kathy can flip" |
kathy could vote with vee and get to the f2 (that is if they win in a tie vote) and she might do that. by kathy voting for sean, i don't think that it means that she has sided with them. i think she was more angry with sean arguing with her, than saying she is on p/n's side. neleh is a little too overconfident. i think that sean, zoe, and tammy. would vote for k over n or p. only sean would vote for vee. please let neleh go next . . . .PLEASE!
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05-16-02, 09:05 PM (EST)
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32. "Take the night off Bungler" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-16-02 AT 09:06 PM (EST)The preview was nothing but a promo for the final show. We have nothing to work with........YET. Blue Edited for spelling
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05-16-02, 09:13 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Take the night off Bungler" |
Did anyone catch Pappy's comment when he voted for Sean....I couldn't understand it...
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05-16-02, 09:07 PM (EST)
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34. "Props" |
It has been a bad week for this Dawg... I took it out on THREE godfather drinks and one neat scotch (in honor of George Tirebiter), and I'm feeling mighty mellow.Props to those who deserve it, mostly snewser... but some of us had Kathy's IC win before that. Now to the Final Four... how will it go down? 
"Pappy, you smuggled! I'm so proud of you!" -- Neleh Dennis*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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05-16-02, 09:08 PM (EST)
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36. "Congrats" |
Congrats to all. Another perfect week, even if Snewser made part of it a little easier.
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05-16-02, 09:23 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Ok I got kicked off trying to post this and now this is my 2nd time writing it, i am Pissed off about it.But anyway, Betrayal? Lets hope not.
Today, Paschal admitted "I will never vote Neleh".
Before, Neleh admitted "he would be the hardest to vote out(or something like that)"
Its very suspicious that Paschal would never vote her out, but Neleh WOULD, but it would be hard. Is this forshadowing Neleh betraying Paschal... I hope not! OK, now.
I think V set the whole discussion up just so she can make V/S the victims while N/P the enemies. She played the race card in the beginning and faked the concerning to Pappy, then full circled it by bringing up the discussion. She obviously was playing the game, while she led Sean to make the flame bigger. Good job V, you almost got your wish! Now, why would S vote Neleh after just pissing off Paschal? Because he and vee have an alliance. If he voted P out of pure hate, V would not know if he was voting for Neleh still or Paschal. That obviously cleared up anything that V/S had no alliance, but i knew you all knew that. Now. the FInal 4
-Vee
-Neleh
-Paschal
-Kathy
In no particular order.
Vee is the odd one out.
Kathy is 2nd odd one out.
N/P may not be as strong as it is made out to be.
Will Vee & Kathy align to take out the "twosome", will Kathy stay with old tribal roots and vote out Vee? This sunday will be one chock full of good Survivor.
GOOOOOO NELEH!
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05-16-02, 09:29 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: New Preview - No Caps" |
During the end of the ep, they showed them walking into the tribal council, did anyone catch how many there were, who had the immunity?..
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05-16-02, 09:27 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Let's see....why didn't Sean's plan work? Because Kathy's not a freaking moron! I mean puhleeze Sean and Vee have had a close relationship since what, Day 2? And nobody said it was based on skin colour - being on the same team for 36 days 24/7 would do it. Nice try, but they should have pushed Robert last week.And coming to a decision on the two groups.... 1.) Kathy knew N/P better
2.) She has a better chance at beating them at whatever the last 2 challenges are. -----------------------------------
Now let us never speak of S3 again.  
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05-16-02, 11:55 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: Agree" |
I agree with you, Loree about taking the one you would feel happier losing to. And in Kathy's case, I think that would be Pappy.It has to be a tough decision, balancing who you think you can beat and who you wouldn't mind losing to. As I've said in another thresd, I think Kathy can beat any of the other 3. I think the Rotu 4 will all vote for her, and that's all she needs. But I also think Sean and Vee will vote for her, if for no other reason than what went down at TC tonight between the "two cities". So, we may see the most decisive final vote in Survivor history so far at 6 to 1. bebe 
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68. "RE: Agree" |
How will Vee and Sean vote? Wil they vote Kathy because she is nice?... Past final votes have proved that people vote for who played the game. Sean has always said Neleh is playing the game the hardest while putting up her innocent girl exterior. Pappy.. well he stood up to Sean at tribal council. Of course Vee will vote for "who deserves it"... yeah. right. The black shirts on the tribal council obviously means they are voting together. So whats the point of Sean and Vee and Whoever the other person will be? Kathy voted Zoe, so Zoe will not vote for Kathy. John&Co originally planned to oust Kathy, but she snuck away with luck. Will they vote for her just for that? Pappy gave his word to John and he didnt play it out. What does the Jury(Rotu4)have to work with against Neleh? Besides the innocent girl thing, what else is there to hate? She is not riding on Pappy's coattails, she is playing the game the hardest and making all the moves. She wouldnt have gotten this far if she played the way Lis played. Unlike her counterparts, she is not being so going with the flow and letting fate take her away, she is taking the game into her own hands and doing her best to work out for her. All Vee does it jump ship, and because of todays episode, everyone obviously knew that, even Kathy. If popularity plays out in the votes, Neleh could still take it away. What we see on TV would have just maximized what other people thought of her more than they actually did. No one liked Rich, but he played the game and won. It looks like no one likes Neleh anymore, so will she win? She has a chance. Dont take her out of the running yet. Kathy may have escaped boot more than enough times, and theres a reason for that. She has been winning immunities WHEN she needs them. She has not been playing any game, just sticking with "the majority". What game has she been playing, contemplating whether to talk to Sean today or Pappy? Whether to hate on Neleh or Pappy? In my opinion, Kathy has not been playing the game as hard as Neleh. They only make Kathy out to be the ones pulling the strings and making the decisions and changing the course of the game. Neleh could easily take a win in the final 2 if she gets there. All i'm saying is, all we got to work with is what MB decides to show us, and he has exaggerated all the time, and because Neleh has been hated on for 2 episodes and never got a vote until now, Neleh must not be that bad. Neleh is still in this game. The Jury will not vote for Pappy just because he is a kind old senior citizen. They will not vote for Vee because she has played "UTR Girl" so well. This is between Neleh and Kathy. Are we only shown the bad stuff about Neleh under a microscope? Have all the positiveness around Kathy been to obvious? We'll see.
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05-16-02, 11:05 PM (EST)
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56. "Kathy will vote with Vee in F4" |
Kathy made it very clear to the jury that she is a lone wolf. It would make the most sense for her to vote with Vee in the Final 4. She would force a tie. If V/K win over P/N, she now has a 2-1 chance of making it to the Finals, especially if they take out Neleh and Pappy is left. He can't even stand straight let alone stand on a pole for hours on end. I was kind of wondering if the "weak" thing wasn't a con to keep him around longer, so they would think he is absolutely not an IC threat until he fell in the Story telling..
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71. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
First off, great discussion on the possibilities. Without decent vidcaps, it might be all we have!<<If she said she did not think of this--she was being COY. She definitely has understood her position for a very long time.>> I don't disagree with this, actually - simply presenting it as it was edited, since I'm trying to not get into the position of "what are they thinking" - that's been my downfall previously. If Kathy can win Fallen Comrades, I think it all becomes a moot point, because then she will not get the boot at the next IC. It seems likely that she will vote with N/P in such a situation, because V will have served her purpose. No need for much strategy at that point - Kathy should be able to beat both N & P in an endurance challenge. For ratings, and to fill two hours, we might see a tie (with a vote together with Vee), but I think it unlikely. If Vee can win Fallen Comrades, I don't yet have an idea what to think. The sensible choice would be to boot Kathy, as then Vee becomes the most likely to win the endurance (IMHO). But I'm not sure Vee has had much face time with other survivors, even though she has been with all of them at one time or another. I did find it interesting that Neleh said "too much drama" during her vote for Sean so maybe I'm wrong and Vee could win immunity next. If Paschal can win Fallen Comrades, the sensible boot again becomes Kathy, and he has proven the ability to switch sides - though not in strategic moves. Last time, he was upset about being excluded so obviously from the alliance. This is a similar event to last night's TC, actually, but Pappy just got rid of that problem by booting Sean. I'd suggest that in this case they would boot Vee, in order to 'remain true' to themselves. I just don't think Neleh can win Fallen Comrades, but in case she does, I see the same scenario playing out to boot Vee as opposed to Kathy, simply because she's the "outsider". Even when they were in the "family tribe" with Gina, they booted her, and she seemed to be much more well-liked than Kathy was at that time. Only reason right now to switch is to boot the strongest (physical) competitor, and I've seen no evidence that they will do this. Sean was, but he was also likely the most hated competitor - tough to see which actually contributed the most to his boot last night. In summary, I think if Vee can win Fallen Comrades, we'll see an interesting tribal council vote. Otherwise, I believe it's business as usual in the next round - though a Kathy boot might make it possible for Paschal to win, so maybe they'll go that way. Give us some vidcaps, please!
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58. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-16-02 AT 11:13 PM (EST)Jayceae, I must respectfully disagree with you; I think that Kathy knew exactly what she was doing. First she directly confronts P/N in the presence of S/V, and demands to KNOW if P/N have a pact. Pappy--who obviously, has absolutely NO idea, how to play this game, of course, answers yes; which serves to egg on Sean;
who later errupts at TC and goes AWOL. Pappy, hyppocritically acting all self-ritcheous and deceived
--like a cuckolded lover--which is no doubt noted,
ironically by the jury; for the first time this season, manages to beat Sean out at a Robfather scholorship
--possibly ruining any chance he had with the jury. I can't believe I'm saying this, but he's the one who's getting on my nerves the most now--I sincerely hope it is a final chick 3.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Paschal (about Sean): I'm really sick of him running his mouth off.
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61. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Exactly. what's more, I think Kathy PLANNED it all. That coy little, "Gee, I'm surprised no one made me an offer for the necklace" answer was tossing a match into a pool of gasoline, and she knew it would be, given the 'discussion' at the campfire the previous night. So, what does this accomplish? It plays PERFECTLY to the jury. What do they see? Pappy/Neleh have to admit the existence of their own alliance, which means the Rotu4 cannot possibly have any doubt over how hypocritical Pappy/Neleh were when they got on their high horse over the R4 *daring* to have a boot order in mind. Result: Kathy vastly ups her chances of winning those four votes if she ends up in F2 vs. either P or N. Sean/Vee tacitly admit -- and P/N call them on it, so the jury can't miss it -- having an alliance while Sean at least has been running around saying he hasn't. So much for Sean's being able to sell his perfect record of not lying, if he made it to the F2. Result: K improves her chances in F2 vs. S at least. Also, this rows kicks the animosity between P/N and S/V up several notches. Result: K can be fairly sure of the votes of V & S if she makes it to F2 with either N or P. Or of P/N, if for some weird reason it comes down to K/V. Add in that she was able to serve up an overall impression to the jury of Miss Innocent Outsider who was doing her best to stay out of the shouting and tried to defuse and calm things. Result: bonus niceness points, likely from present AND future jury people. On top of improving her final vote standing vs. three of the other players, K then gets to make a triple-good call by voting with N/P: 1: She may get bonus points for loyalty by staying 'true to Rotu.' 2: She gets to eliminate S immediately, who is the biggest threat in physical immunity challenges. 3: She turns V, the only person who might not have been damaged by the ruckus at TC, into a lame duck. At the moment, K is sitting pretty. If she gets into the F2, she will have the R4 votes PLUS both votes from whichever of the duos is completely eliminated. Final: 6/1, Kathy wins.
(I suggest her best strategy would be to take whichever of the other two came in second -- she can say that that is the 'fairest' thing to do, more goody point, and it doesn't matter at all who stands next to her.) Of course, she could still do something abysmally stupid, or fall in volcano or something, or simply lose the last IC...but she's in the best position any player has ever been at the F4 level.
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64. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
PERFECT analysis! I agree 100%one more thing, what was the signifigance of the Rotu4 all wearing black?
Hail Kathy! the Sole survivor!
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05-17-02, 00:10 AM (EST)
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65. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Maybe it was just me, but this whole entire episode just screamed "Kathy vs. Vee final two!" to me. Already knowing the obvious, i was quite surprised when Kathy pulled it out..but i was happy. Kathy has strategized about this game from day one, and knows when and where to strike. I believe the argueing at tribal council made one of the best survivor moments on T.V. ever. How often will we get to see that? And also, Kathy really got the judge on his high horse. We always see paschal as the nice old man, but at tribal council, his true colors REALLY showed. He was screaming and yelling, and was getting mad at sean for exactly the same thing he was doing. That really wasn't good infront of the jury. And another thing I would like to add is that the only votes that count are the Rotu 4s. Jeff made a point this tribal council to say that they were all wearing black...signifying that they were one.
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05-17-02, 08:52 AM (EST)
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72. "RE: *** EP12 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
I mean puhleeze Sean and Vee have
had a close relationship since what, Day 2?yeah it was so close she went against her alliance of rob and sean to vote rob out with the Rotu4 1.) Kathy knew N/P better
2.) She has a better chance
at beating them at whatever
the last 2 challenges are. Kathy has/had the best chance of the remaining 5 to win the whole thing no matter who she chose to side with. I think siding with Sean and Vee would have made more sense just because Vee has not been loyal to just Sean and she could have worked on that. It will be a lot harder for her to break up the N/P alliance. The only way Kathy can hope to make it to the final 2 is winning these last 2 immunity challanges.
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