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"*** EP11 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***"
IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 08:00 PM (EST)
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"*** EP11 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Please use this thread for EP11 comments before 12:00 EDT... ___________________________________________________SurvivorBlows.com provides this thread as a service to two groups of people: 1) People who want to post and read about the episode as it is being telecast across the various time zones. If you can't wait for the show to appear in your time zone, read the 'East Coast Spoiler Thread' for an on-the-fly commentary. 2) Those people who want to access other posts on the Spoiler/Speculation board but do not want to see spoilers before the show is telecast in their timezone. Please do not post any commentary about the episodes as they are telecast in threads other than this one. Everyone is welcome to post on this thread! It's like Spoilers, Fanatics, and Bashers boards all in one!
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 08:08 PM (EST)
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1. "That Kathy Sure is Beautiful..." |
... first thing in the morning <shudder>...She talks about missing her son... Paschal talks about about how the time has allowed the tribe to really get to know each other... Rainy weather very dark mood... Robert says he still has his head in the game... his eyes show he doesn't really mean it.
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anotherkim 14420 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 08:17 PM (EST)
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2. "Family members are on the island to play the RC...." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-02 AT 08:19 PM (EST)much better than the idiotic videos. Much, much better. Leander is introduced as Vee's hubby, Sean's buddy is there, Neleh's mom, Kathy's son (the guy from the pics), Mrs. Pappy, and Robert's sister. turn over tiles, keep from being boxed in. survivors can't talk to them verbally, but non verbal is fine. Mrs. Pappy is the first one out. Leander gone--Sean's pal got the wild card and chose to eliminate L. Pal gone next. amaM (tha's mama backwards, LMAO) is out next. OMH! Robert's sister loses. Patrick and Kathy win. he gets to go ack to camp with them and spend the night.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 08:19 PM (EST)
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3. "Tree Mail" |
Big honey comb pattern game board...Jiffy says "How would you like to make a call home?" Then he says psych! and puts the cell phone away. Then he brings out the actual family members/slash friends and they all shout hellos and encouragement to the tribe members... Then Jiffy says that the visitors will play the game! The players stand on the hexagonal tiles and turn them over looking for tiles that say 'vote off' or 'skip a turn' or they run out of tiles to step on... Paschals wife gets blocked out first... Jiffy still lets them have a quick hug, kiss, and a few words... Next its a vote... Sean's visiting friend, Daryl, has to pick someone to go... he picks Vee's husband. Vee and Hubby share a quick hug... everybody crying by this point. Daryl gets blocked out... Neleh's mom, Becky next to go <hugs/kisses> Neleh gives mom and old buff <no more soggy mints?> Diana, Rob's sister, goes next... big hugs again. General wipes a tear... Kathy's son wins... the vid cap was right: black t-shirt and khaki shorts. The reward is that Kathy's son is a 'member of tribe Soliantu' for one night... yay
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ulalame 778 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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05-10-02, 00:23 AM (EST)
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62. "RE: Ewwwwww" |
Hey that's not quite fair! I used to spoon w/my mom well into adulthood You also gotta think that Kathy, who is now like 25 lbs thinner than she was before she left, probably was totally exited by the fact that she was now smaller than her son. Just kidding, all. I really thought it was cute
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volmel 362 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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05-09-02, 08:32 PM (EST)
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5. "Kathy's Son" |
Is it me, or does Kathy's son not have that great of a personality. He acts like he doesn't want to be there.
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Kokoro 3899 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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05-09-02, 09:16 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Kathy's Son" |
I think the "I don't want to be here" thing was more of a "coolness" act because of him being self-conscious with all the cameras.And even then, lets see....he gets to: *hang out with a bunch of awful smelling people. *sleep on rocks. *get eaten by nonos. *develop a rash. *eat the same delicious food as everyone else. *possibly get a parasitic infection. *do half of the work around the camp. *and a whole lot more.... Who would be overly excited about that? ----------------------------------- Now let us never speak of S3 again.
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SMGLover 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-09-02, 08:35 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: *** EP11 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
As he says goodbye, Patrick says "take care of my mom" to Sean and says "have a great/good time" to Vee. Is this an indication that they have decided to join up? lets hope not!!!!!!!!
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J Slice 13166 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 09:06 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: *** EP11 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Absolutely loved Sean's imitation of Neleh, especially line about Disneyland...I am SO mad that Kathy didn't even TRY to join up with Bob. Well, at least there's still next week to ditch Little Miss Sunshine and her gentleman friend. -=J=- "Hiii, isn't this soo amaaazing? It's sooo great to be here!" - Sean (Neleh)
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SMGLover 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-09-02, 08:45 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: *** EP11 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
K/R talk about kicking off P/N. N seems to be prime target. K/R talk about changing p/n final 2. Neleh talks to Paschal at waterfall. S/V talk about Neleh riding on P's coattail, and then more hits at Neleh about being so sweet and being a sweet girl. K/R talk about not voting P over N. P is their strongest adversary. P/N talk about strength, Neleh says she is not giving up, ever. V talking about sweet mormom girla nd saying aint got jack to dowiththe game. S talks about she has to go. K/R talkabout she has a lot to do withthe game. S/V talk about her loud mouth/disneyland. K talk about f3 with P/n and voting her out,and then f3 with v/s and then vote her out. And then she says r/k should be a unit. R talking about the game changing and anything can happen. Immunity using food as weapons and a slingshot. Hourglass filled with sand, bottom has a tiki, use rock to hit structure with panels, after hitting each sand falls on tiki and covers it. Robert gets first hit. Paschal gets second hit. Paschal OUT. V/S get hit. Sean OUT. CHICKS rule. ROBERT hit. ROBERT OUT. N/V/K final 3. CHick dance. V hit/N hit. KATHY OUT N/V still in. .... clolse one... FINAL HIT.. miss again..
.. miss again! ... NELEH OUT! V WINS IMMUNITY.... not good for Neleh.. oh great, I can see what is going tocome. This time its no misdirection, its real i can feel it. The comments.. Neleh said its going to be close and V says in an attidue, Yeah it is. Kathy says Neleh hit her hard and it hurt. NELEH IS TARGET 2 weeks in a row! Robert is not a target!
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SMGLover 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-09-02, 08:47 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Congrats Spoilers...." |
Lets hope your 3 for 3 and ROB is out instead of Neleh... i have a feeling im going to live the night ELISABETH was voted out all over again! im shaking!
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J Slice 13166 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 09:11 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Just think of me as punctuation." |
>Thank you Jesus!! Thank you >Jesus!! Thank you Jesus!! You have to find it at least somewhat amusing that Jesus is pulling for Vecepia over the cutsie-wootsie Mormon. I know that if I were Jesus, I'd do the same... hehehehe.... not to be sacreligious... stupid Neleh. Blast her for outlasting General, REPREZENTIN QUEENS, YO! -=J=- "Hiii... isn't this greaaat? It's sooo amaziiing to be heeeere!" - Sean (Neleh)
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SMGLover 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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05-09-02, 08:50 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: *** EP11 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
its back.. Rob feels vulnerable. He is not changing his fate. He is talking alot about pride.. yada yada yada.. K/R HUG. Kathy says motivation and direction change. Kathy says Robs turned to get chopped. Kathy says N/P needs to get Severed. She says N/P will understand it.. Neleh says she might be the next one out... Never know whats gonna happen.
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moonbaby 17120 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 09:01 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Pagong!!!!!!" |
Yea but the voodoo man voweth the day of reckoning us upon those who voted him off. Woe unto them.
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J Slice 13166 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 09:20 PM (EST)
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37. "RE: Duh, neleduH..." |
>Um, like, I think that maybe like Sean and like Vee have a ya know, um bond! <OMH>. > >Gee, neleduH, next you'll tell us >Kathy isn't wearing the proper >foundation garmets and Paschal needs >a shave. > >Geez, vote her dumbass off already >. OMG, she's such a dolt. Please... PLEASE, people... sprout some damn sense and nail her scrwny Utah azz to the jury stump where she belongs! -=J=-
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 09:23 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Early bet: Neleh booted next week." |
we can only hope the third time's the charm...
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 10:14 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Early bet: Neleh booted next week." |
>Kathy played it correctly. Boot >the General, go for Neleh >next. That would be >the correct plan. Actually, I disagree, what would that get her? Even if she somehow could convince PAschal to align with her the following week, they are still taking a chance in a 2/2 tie. ...and instead Paschal might refuse to join with her in return for betraying he and Neleh and instead KATHY could be out 4th in 3-1 vote. Then EVEN IF IT WORKED, Kathy would still have to win immunity in the Final three in order to have the ability to make the Final Two. ...so if you are going to do all that, why not take the sure thing and instead continue to vote with Neleh and PASchal for another week, and assuming you can, vote Vee off (she's too big a threat to get the votes from the 4 Rotu's on the jury if she were to make it to the Final 2.) Then if Kathy is STILL not comfortable with her chances in a Paschal/Neleh/KAthy Final 3 and her chances at winning the Final immunity, Kathy could still either align with Sean and "bet the house on black" in a 2/2 tie showdown. If she and Sean came out on top then they have about as much of a non-aligned, wide-open Final 3 as they could possibly get (Sean, KAthy, Paschal.) In that scenario I'd put her chances of making the Final 2 at 50% or better -- 33% from her chances of winning immunity, plus at least another 17% because I don't think anyone can say for sure who either Sean and PAschal would prefer to face the jury with. Compared to the only 33% of making the Final 2 if she rides Neleh and PAschal into the Final 3, yes, her chances are better if she teams with Sean to vote out Neleh -- but there's a big if there, namely that she and Sean would be able to oust Neleh the tiebreaker. All told, I still think Kathy's best play is to ride Neleh and Paschal to the Final 3 and take her 33% chance of winning the final immunity -- after all, she's facing a weak 55 year old man and a 21 year old hyperactive girl -- neither one seems to be threat in a Final immunity endurance challenge (and remember who won the LAST endurance challenge.) -SB
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shakes the clown 3366 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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05-09-02, 11:00 PM (EST)
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55. "i don't think so ICB" |
>You know if I'm Kathy I >pick carefully because I think >she may have cost herself >Roberts vote tonight. Not >sure he would see anyone >else as leading him on, >but Kathy double delt him. > Somehow Robert seems to >be the grudge type. .....if kathy and Robert had any sort of deal then you would've seen Robert vote for heleN tonight. The fact that he voted for Sean shows that nothing became of the convo tonight between him and Kathy. Therefore, nobody got stabbed in the back...plus his comments about not going up to anyone to try and make a deal is further evidence that there was no agreement between Robert and anyone for that matter.
Now the only question remains........did OFG change her vote at the last minute or did she stay in her seat aboard the heleN train crash?
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-02, 00:27 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: i don't think so ICB" |
LMAO, shakes The good news is that now you have your desire to forge ahead of me in Spoiler Island, maybe you will stop praying for my downfall every week. It hurts to be the object of such devout negative energy! Yeah, I knew in my heart it was going to be Robert and I'm not just saying that. But there was a slim chance it would be more interesting, and I figured I'd rather take a small chance on being right about an interesting outcome than to be right about a boring outcome. I asked myself if I would be elated if I picked Robert and was right and the answer was no--points or no points. I must have been channeling my Irish grandmother who took me to the races once a week every summer and ALWAYS bet on the long shots, while she mocked me for betting the favorites even though they usually won... and paid a pittance. So Grandma, my voting trainwreck was in your honor! I am disappointed about tonight simply because it was SO dull of them to 1-2-3-4 the Rotu 4. Saw Burnett on Kilbourne last night talking about doing Survivor TEN. If he wants to get there he needs to do MORE to shake his game out of the rut, IMHO. From one prospective Pagonging to another, yawn. And Kathy's son was really dull. Not at all entertaining. A visiting pig would have been more animated than Pat.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-02, 10:09 AM (EST)
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71. "RE: i don't think so ICB" |
Although we SAW a discussion between Kathy and Robert of booting Neleh, it is possible that we weren't shown that Kathy and Robert decided to vote for Sean instead. Therefore, Robert WOULD be upset at Kathy, hence his final words.However, it probably is true that nothing came of the deal. "Pappy, you smuggled! I'm so proud of you!" -- Neleh Dennis*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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volmel 362 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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05-09-02, 11:05 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Early bet: Neleh booted next week." |
Kathy really had no choice but to vote for Robert. If she had voted with him, against Sean, it wouldn't have made any difference. Robert still would have been gone and she would have been left to face her vote against Sean with the others.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-02, 11:15 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Early bet: Neleh booted next week." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-02 AT 11:18 PM (EST)I think there's a much better chance of the Rotu Four voting for Sean or Vee if they are in a Final 2 with Kathy than there is of the Rotu Four voting for either Paschal or Neleh if they are in a Final 2 with Kathy. ....the bottom line is that Sean and Vee were clearly never part of Rotu. Any ill feeling that the Rotu Four have toward Sean and Vee are likely less than those they hold toward Neleh, PAschal... and KAthy herself. Therefore if Kathy goes into the Final 2 with either of Neleh or Paschal sh's pretty much leveled and neutralized the "revenge" motivation of the vote and forced the Rotu Four to decide on other factors, like who played the game the best, etc. -- and in that regard I think nearly everyone would have to agree that Kathy has played the game much better than either PAschal or Neleh -- and unlike Neleh or Paschall she did so without the benefit of ever having a partner. For someone who was universally expected to be the first person out of her tribe to make it this far you have to give them credit. -SB
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-02, 00:57 AM (EST)
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67. "RE: Early bet: Neleh booted next week." |
volmel, I agree that of the players left in the game, Paschal is the one you don't want to stand up against. Everyone loves him and Zoe said he was their touchstone, the one they went to.Neleh, OTOH, is no Lis. Kathy could probably beat her on the merits of work ethic and deserving, BUT you always have to figure in possible grudges and envy. John and Zoe left the game before Neleh started irritating everyone. Every season these people amaze me at what stupid reasons they give for their votes. There really is no perfect foolproof way to approach this one. The only one who has not picked up a stigma of some sort is Paschal, as far as I can tell. Webby, I agree with you that Kathy could win the endurance challenge, but I'm not sure she's as confident as we are about what the final challenge will be. She didn't see the end of Survivor Africa. Fallen Comrades was the final IC of the last Survivor she saw, and I believe Paired Off was the penultimate IC, right? For all she knows there is no endurance challenge that she can bank on. The last two IC's in S2 called for mental sharpness and knowing the people well, and she admits to being deficient in both, so I'm thinking she's not liking her chances of depending on immunity wins. I noted Paschal talking about how well he's gotten to know everybody; he's a good bet for winning FC if he gets there. Kathy will not like the 33% odds and will look for an alliance strategy of some sort and there is NONE with N/P. I thought MAYBE she would realize that tonight, and try to get Neleh out, thus my vote. She did have the realization, and if Rob had won IC, that probably would have happened, but I guess she knew she was screwed if she went against P/N too early, unless Rob won immunity. Since the Rob vote was unanimous, there was probably conversation between the 5 who united against the Rotu 4 in which they agreed to honor the pact of going to 5 before they turned on each other. For all we know, Kathy did talk to Sean and Vee about the possible foursome, and they may not have been enthused. Maybe Sean thinks HE can ally with P/N and ditch Kathy; he seems to be griping next time at the assumption that he can't pick a white alliance because he's black. In any case, Kathy's final decision that it was Rob's turn was probably a rationalization she came to upon realizing she was not in a position to make any move this time without screwing herself with the jury. Also, Rob himself seemed pretty unenthusiastic about working the angles; he made the decision easy. One thing's for sure, our POV continues to make this the Kathy show. OTOH, S2 was the Colby show at the end, and he finished second... The end vote might actually be pretty interesting.
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katem 3315 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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05-10-02, 00:41 AM (EST)
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66. "RE: Early bet: Neleh booted next week." |
>Kathy played it correctly. Boot >the General, go for Neleh >next. That would be >the correct plan. Dawg, I hardly ever disagree with you, but here I have to. Kathy should stick with P/N, they don't have a chance to win the game, like others think they do. Neleh is not very well respected and there seems to be to much animosity towards her. Pappy on the other hand will have to face the music with John and the Rotu 4. Vee is Kathy's biggest threat in the final IC, Vee just one this past one, and was runner-up the past two weeks. She should stick with the two fake people that would carry her to victory.
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NorthOfBoston 158 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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05-10-02, 09:27 AM (EST)
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69. "RE: ROFLMBO" |
hee hee I_AM_HE, I told you my prediction would be correct!
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J Slice 13166 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-02, 09:53 AM (EST)
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70. "RE: Ahhhh Cute Young Girls...." |
Say what you will about the general, but he's the cutest one to be eliminated 11th to this point... mmm, fat Queens limo drivers... I bet if I hung around Shea stadium long enough, I'd find a whole slew of them!::runs to Shea stadium:: -=J=- "I'd never ruin a glitter shirt!" -Danny, TAR2
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