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survivor_freak 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-03-02, 00:52 AM (EST) "The First Tie Vote" Hey guys, This is my first post and please let me know if I should have put this somewhere esle...I was thinking that we might see a tie vote next week, with Sean and Vee joining up with Robert to vote for Neleh...Sean had said something about ending the game in a boom and I think that he knows it this works that he would be in the final two with Vee or could be out in the next TC...Just wanted to put this out there and see what others thought about it.. This could also play into the theroy that pappy would give up immunity if he thought Neleh might be next to go...   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    No tie votes JohnMc 05-03-02 1    RE: No tie votes Bebo 05-03-02 3  RE: The First Tie Vote toddE 05-03-02 2    RE: The First Tie Vote bergdogg 05-03-02 5        RE: The First Tie Vote Spidey 05-03-02 9            RE: The First Tie Vote frisky 05-03-02 10                RE: The First Tie Vote Spidey 05-03-02 11            RE: The First Tie Vote SurvivinDawg 05-03-02 12  RE: The First Tie Vote s_man 05-03-02 4    RE: The First Tie Vote Loree 05-03-02 6    Sean has 3 votes Rexx 05-03-02 7        PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIM... Bebo 05-03-02 8            RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS... Rexx 05-03-02 13                RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS... Gap 05-03-02 14                    RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS... Rexx 05-03-02 15                        RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS... bergdogg 05-03-02 16                            RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS... Fashionista007 05-03-02 17                                Follow this link dabo 05-04-02 18                            RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS... munson 05-04-02 19  RE: The First Tie Vote cutie 05-08-02 20    Elimination vote wording Bebo 05-08-02 21        RE: Elimination vote wording hrc2u 05-08-02 22        RE: Elimination vote wording FesterFan1 05-08-02 23            RE: Elimination vote wording Bebo 05-08-02 24                RE: Elimination vote wording cowboyroo 05-09-02 25  NO TIE VOTE possible this week or (... Napalm in the Morning 05-09-02 26    RE: NO TIE VOTE possible this week ... FesterFan1 05-09-02 28    RE: NO TIE VOTE possible this week ... Bebo 05-09-02 29  RE: The First Tie Vote Teddy_Bear 05-09-02 27

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JohnMc 2679 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 05-03-02, 12:04 PM (EST) 1. "No tie votes" I'm sorry, but I think this whole transfer of immunity thing is just one of EPM's ploys to toy with people's emotions. No one is safe without immunity. No one has transferred yet, and no one will. Besides, here is where I describe why Neleh is safe and that Robert and Vee are next on the chopping block. <http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/2757.shtml>   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-03-02, 12:15 PM (EST) 3. "RE: No tie votes" I'm sorry, but I think this whole transfer of immunity thing is just one of EPM's ploys to toy with people's emotions. No one is safe without immunity. No one has transferred yet, and no one will. Per Tammy's Early Show interview, Robert whispered to her that he was going to transfer it to her, even though it meant his own demise, but she told him not to. fluent in Sarcastic, Blahblah, and Mockery 'Canes Rock! Beat Canada!   Top

toddE 1433 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 05-03-02, 12:06 PM (EST) 2. "RE: The First Tie Vote" I think this is the right place to post, especially given the questions about a tie vote and what happens now that "previous votes cast no longer count." That would seem to indicate a tie next week, since the final four becomes the only other possibility for that to happen. It would have to be between someone who has previously received votes against someone who hasn't for that rule specification to be relevant. So, I guess it would be Sean or Kathy (more likely Sean) tied with Neleh or Pappy. The problem I have with that is that Kathy and Sean may have a plan to be final three with Vee. So they boot Robert next week and then go after P/N.   Top

bergdogg 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 05-03-02, 01:41 PM (EST) 5. "RE: The First Tie Vote" >I think this is the right >place to post, especially given >the questions about a tie >vote and what happens now >that "previous votes cast no >longer count." That would >seem to indicate a tie >next week, since the final >four becomes the only other >possibility for that to happen. > It would have to >be between someone who has >previously received votes against someone >who hasn't for that rule >specification to be relevant. >So, I guess it would >be Sean or Kathy (more >likely Sean) tied with Neleh >or Pappy. Why does everybody believe that the "previous votes no longer count" means that there is going to be a tie vote this season?!?! I think it is pretty obvious that that comment was made because there is no tie this season, and that the rule change never comes up in this season. Robert is a goner, and EPM is just trying to catch us all in "Neleh is getting booted next week" fever. >The problem I have with that >is that Kathy and Sean >may have a plan to >be final three with Vee. > So they boot Robert >next week and then go >after P/N. Exactly. If K/S are alligned, Vee is a shoe in for the final 3 (barring immunity). There is no point to keep Robert in the game, who has 2 votes on the jury (John, Tammy) and he would also get votes from N/P because S/V/K turned on them, and won't vote for them. It is a stupid move to get rid of N/P now if S/V/K are alligned. N/P think Kathy is on their side (and may in fact be). They take comfort in that, and it may cost them. BUD SELIG SUCKS!!!! SAVE THE TWINS!!!   Top

Spidey 6259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-03-02, 02:46 PM (EST) 9. "RE: The First Tie Vote" >Why does everybody believe that the >"previous votes no longer count" >means that there is going >to be a tie vote >this season?!?! I think it >is pretty obvious that that >comment was made because there >is no tie this season, >and that the rule change >never comes up in this >season. Robert is a goner, >and EPM is just trying >to catch us all in >"Neleh is getting booted next >week" fever. > Bergdogg, several of the ousted contestants have confirmed that they were told at the beginning of the game that previous votes don't count. There is no way anyone, including MB, as god-like as he may be, would know ahead of time whether or not there would be a tie. It is totally inconclusive as to whether or not there is ever a tie. Same thing with the IN swap. Although I am sure they could have edited out references to it if it never did subseqently come up, it does add to speculation and strategy, so might as well leave it in and add to the dynamics of the game (Like Tammy saying this am that Robert was going to give her the IN). The fact that they show references to giving away immunity is also not conclusive as to whether or not it ever actually happens.   Top

frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-03-02, 02:55 PM (EST) 10. "RE: The First Tie Vote" >several of the ousted contestants have confirmed that they were told at the beginning of the game that previous votes don't count. I remember the night Hunter got the boot, he voted for Sarah. When he held up the vote, he said something along the lines of "I'm hoping that this vote will protect someone down the line who I think deserves to go far." I don't know the words verbatim, but they suggested that Hunter was hoping that his vote would figure prominently in future tribal councils. If there was a rule, he must've forgotten about it.   Top

Spidey 6259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-03-02, 03:11 PM (EST) 11. "RE: The First Tie Vote" Hunter is a kncklehead. That pretty much explains that. Patricia and Sarah at least, and probably others, have said they were told at the outset.   Top

SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-03-02, 03:17 PM (EST) 12. "RE: The First Tie Vote" Spidey has it dead-on here. Correct me if I am wrong, btw, but I haven't heard it mentioned ON THE SHOW that previous votes don't count. We know this to be true from exit interviews, and the players knew it all along, but was it ever actually mentioned ON THE SHOW, on camera? Also, remember the "Hollow" Theory and you'll understand why MB keeps the IN transfer in our minds: It's to give his normal (non-spoiler) audience something to see as a possible twist and surprise in the game, and for the spoiler audience it's something else that MB hopes will perhaps mislead some from making a correct choice. MB used this rule's potential by putting in a VOICEOVER of the General telling Tammy he wasn't going to let anything happen to her, implying that he would give her the necklace. From Tammy's exit interviews, we know she was offered the immunity, and turned it down. But that didn't keep MB from using it for a few moment's suspense. "Pappy, you smuggled! I'm so proud of you!" -- Neleh Dennis *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged   Top

s_man 579 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-03-02, 12:41 PM (EST) 4. "RE: The First Tie Vote" I had a friend to bring up this same scenario this morning in conversation. The flaw in that theory is that S & V would be MORONS consider forcing a 3/3 tie next week. If you going to jump ship, then last night would be the time, so you don't have a tie until 2/2 (with T & R). I'm not saying that it WILL NOT happen, I just believe that it would be bad timing if so. Although with these idiots, who knows....   Top

Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-03-02, 02:18 PM (EST) 6. "RE: The First Tie Vote" I had been thinking that Sean and Vee might join up with Robert next week. Then I watched Tammy on The Early Show. And I changed my mind. They asked her why she didn't try and get Sean and Vee to join her and Robert. She said she had tried talking to Vee a few days earlier and realized she wasn't going to change over. Then Tammy said watching Sean on TV lastnight talk about maybe switching did hurt. She never realized they would have had a chance if they had tried. So I figured that Robert probably doesn't get to do it either. Or Tammy wouldn't have been surprised to hear Sean consider it.   Top

Rexx 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-03-02, 02:26 PM (EST) 7. "Sean has 3 votes" If S/V/R made a new alliance against K/P/N, Sean would be a sitting duck because he has 3 previos votes against him. Kathy has 2, therefore Sean would go even with the 3/3 tie. If they were going to go for Neleh last night was their only chance with Tammy's vote. I think Robert or Sean goes this week, depending who wins immunity.   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-03-02, 02:28 PM (EST) 8. "PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIME" Rexx, there have been countless links on this site to show that previous votes don't count. MB said so in an interview, and outsted contestants have confirmed. fluent in Sarcastic, Blahblah, and Mockery 'Canes Rock! Beat Canada!   Top

Rexx 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-03-02, 03:34 PM (EST) 13. "RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIME" Oh Sorry, I just get the hang of things and then they change the rules   Top

Gap 10 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 05-03-02, 03:39 PM (EST) 14. "RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIME" Sean and Vecepia will surely realize that Robert and Tammy were the two votes Vee got this time. They would have no reason to trust him or to want to have anything to do with him. I think they would be better served to get rid of Robert this time, and then work on Kathy for next time. There are lots of reasons why those three should get together. Kathy might think that as the only Rotu in the final two, she would have the vote in the bag. And they all three might think Paschal and Neleh are too well liked to go up against in the final vote. At any rate, I think Kathy will be the battleground in the "Tale of Two Cities" in two weeks.   Top

Rexx 9 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 05-03-02, 03:45 PM (EST) 15. "RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIME" I totally agree with you Gap, why would Ve and Sean trust Robert is he has voted for them....But if previous votes don't count, he could say he know she was safe and wounldn't get voted off. Plus V/S joining Robert would put them in a possible final 3 whereas, if they stay with their present alliance and vote out Robert they are in a final 5. Plus Sean's comments about Neleh make me wonder if he doesn't try to get her out.   Top

bergdogg 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 05-03-02, 04:14 PM (EST) 16. "RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIME" They will try to vote Neleh out, in 2 weeks. Robert is toast, and MB is trying to mis-direct us ala the all-woman alliance last year. BUD SELIG SUCKS!!!! SAVE THE TWINS!!!   Top

Fashionista007 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 05-03-02, 11:35 PM (EST) 17. "RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIME" I realize this has been discussed a million times over on this site about the previous votes thing, but I guess I was absent that day. My question is..."When did they say that?" and "Did they ever say or hint at why this is a rule now?"   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-04-02, 00:12 AM (EST) 18. "Follow this link" This came out prior to the start of series 4. http://www.tvguide.com/tv/020228.asp ARRRRRRR!!!!   Top

munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson" 05-04-02, 12:46 PM (EST) 19. "RE: PREVIOUS VOTES DON'T COUNT THIS TIME" They will try to vote Neleh out, in 2 weeks. Editting misdirection complete! All this Neleh as a target, which came out of nowhere last episode (altho she made it very easy in the aftermath of the reward) leads me to believe that Neleh is safe until F3. I'll be looking for a Sean or Vee boot in E12. Robert is toast, and MB is trying to mis-direct us ala the all-woman alliance last year. Exactly. Robert's next despite all the Neleh misdirection.   Top

cutie 58 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-08-02, 03:06 PM (EST) 20. "RE: The First Tie Vote" i am thinking about the clue that neleh would be the "target", i agree that neleh would not be voted off but in what situations would she became a target but not be voted off? 1. some (sean/vee) thought about voting off her, but does not succeed since she won immunity (5-1 robert out), or pappy gave it to her (5-1 robert or 3-3 robert/pappy with robert out since pappy is save this week (the spoiler of pappy's schedule). 2. a tie vote with 3 votes for neleh but she wins. the promo about "dont miss the elimination vote" makes me think that a tie vote is more possible due to the word used "elimination vote". maybe robert wins ic again, forcing s/v to join with him, since they saw that kathy is tighter with p/n. this explains why s/v dont join with t/r last episode but do it this ep. s/v would then be out. maybe the juries could cast the "elimination vote", this would explain john's comment abt he is not done yet, they would then vote off s/v for sure. or the elimination vote may be casted by the ic winner, but then in this case, neleh would be voted off, which is not quite possible due to the red herring of the clues. so another alternative may be r/p/n vs s/v/k. just some speculation...first time poster...no flaming pls...   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-08-02, 03:18 PM (EST) 21. "Elimination vote wording" the promo about "dont miss the elimination vote" makes me think that a tie vote is more possible due to the word used "elimination vote". Could we get some confirmation on this wording please? SurvivorFever reports that the line in the promo is "Don't miss the elimination vote". Sweetpea's post and surviivor.com report the line as "Who will be voted off next". There is a difference in implication. I'm with cutie that the phrase "elimination vote" could refer to a tiebreaking vote, because it seems like strange wording for a routine TC. Unless "elimination" is MB's not-so-cute way of referring to Sean, whose intestinal fortitude has been shown in the episodes and referred to in multiple post-boot interviews. fluent in Sarcastic, Blahblah, and Mockery 'Canes Rock! Beat Canada!   Top

hrc2u 146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 05-08-02, 04:00 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Elimination vote wording" >the promo about "dont miss the >elimination vote" makes me think >that a tie vote is >more possible due to the >word used "elimination vote". > > >Could we get some confirmation on >this wording please? > >SurvivorFever reports that the line in >the promo is "Don't miss >the elimination vote". > >Sweetpea's post and surviivor.com report the >line as "Who will be >voted off next". > Bebo, I heard promo at 3:55 on CBS channel 3 Hartford, CT. I clearly heard. "Who will be voted off next". Hope this things up. hrc2u   Top

FesterFan1 5947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-08-02, 04:08 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Elimination vote wording" It looks as if both wordings are correct and that there are 2 promos. I haven't seen either, but SurvivorFever has one as a May 3 promo and one as a May 5 promo. the VO from May 3 says "Who will be voted out next?" and the VO from May 5 says "Don't miss the elimination vote!" Hopefully they'll show the more recent one again tonight during TAR. Fester "Checkmate, brah"--Sean, S4 E8   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-08-02, 04:15 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Elimination vote wording" LAST EDITED ON 05-08-02 AT 04:15 PM (EST) Thanks for the clarification, Fester and hrc2u. That tells me that the wording was carefully chosen and has some significance. Now we just have to figure out what. - Will there be a tie? That throws Robert into the mix as a credible IC winner. - Does elimination refer to Sean? Wouldn't put it past MB, after he titled John's boot episode "The Jury's Out". The title of this episode, "Marquesan Vacation", could reference Sean's past comments about vacations. fluent in Sarcastic, Blahblah, and Mockery 'Canes Rock! Beat Canada!   Top

cowboyroo 590 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 05-09-02, 00:09 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Elimination vote wording" Bebo, I was 90% sure of a Robert vote til the combination of your thinking and Tammy's appearance on David Letterman. The two common questions asked on Letterman are "Did you see or touch any monkeys" and "Was there any hanky panky on the Island". Tammy had pretty canned answers and brought up Sean's flatulence as a reason for no hanky-panky...It definitely seemed as though her responses were thought out, and the first thing that came to mind was this is Tammy's revenge on Sean for getting N/P over to his side...what better way than to prompt Dave to discuss flatulence with Sean on the show...Sean may be getting to vocal about voting Neleh which could cause N/P to want to target Sean...definitely a possibility....However, I more likely see a tie vote when there are 4 left...   Top

Napalm in the Morning 50 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 05-09-02, 01:01 AM (EST) 26. "NO TIE VOTE possible this week or (obviously) next week IMO" I know the editing in the past few shows haven't made it obvious, but we have got to believe Kathy is firmly with N/P for the following reasons: 1.) N/P saved Kathy's butt when they voted Gina off before the merge. 2.) Kathy went along with N/P (and S/V) with the plan to eliminate their former Rotu tribe members. 3.) Kathy has always voted exactly the same as N/P with the exception of Ep7 when she was out to get Zoe the liar. 4.) There is no evidence Kathy has ANY type of alliance with S/V or the General. 5.) Kathy must believe N/P are her best shot at making the F3. Therefore, the only way for a tie vote this week is if S/V/R all voted for the same person. That means they would have to plan something, and why would S/V even consider that at this point after the General voted for V last TC? The only REMOTE chance for a tie vote is if the General wins IC again. S/V might then feel vulnerable since N/P/K would be forced to choose one of them. In that case, S/V might approach the General to vote with them out of desperation, but how could they possibly trust him? (General could say yes, then turn around and vote with N/P/K to slam dunk V or S - both of whom he has already voted at previous TC's.) In addition, if this scenario was a possibility, I think we would have received many more teasers about the potential drama. IMHO, there is NO CHANCE for a tie vote this week or next (obviously since there will only be 5 left).   Top

FesterFan1 5947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-09-02, 10:56 AM (EST) 28. "RE: NO TIE VOTE possible this week or (obviously) next week IMO" >I know the editing in the >past few shows haven't made >it obvious, but we have >got to believe Kathy is >firmly with N/P for the >following reasons: >1.) N/P saved Kathy's butt when >they voted Gina off before >the merge. Yes, but Kathy herself said she was unsure of the outcome of that vote and she knows she's low woman on that particular totem pole. In addition, she couldn't convince either one to turn on John prior to the Coconut IC. >2.) Kathy went along with N/P >(and S/V) with the plan >to eliminate their former Rotu >tribe members. Actually, it was N/P who went along with K/S/V. Kathy and Sean had some sort of agreement, and then Kathy went to get N/P in their camp, but failed. It wasn't until N/P felt their place in the Rotu hierarchy was threatened that they acted. >3.) Kathy has always voted exactly >the same as N/P with >the exception of Ep7 when >she was out to get >Zoe the liar. Yes, but with the exception of the vote to oust Gina, who was following whose lead? I don't think there's enough evidence to say for certain that N/P/K are a voting "bloc". Lately they've had a common goal to break up the R4, but after that...who knows where her loyalties lie? IMO, probably closer to Sean than N/P. Realistically, she'll side with whomever she feels best benefits her. We already know that she thinks N/P are unbreakable. >4.) There is no evidence Kathy >has ANY type of alliance >with S/V or the General. Disagree. She's already conspired with Sean in E8. Even if that agreement was only to boot John, a level of trust was established. Sean has never lied to Kathy, and that goes a long way with her. I don't think she trusts N/P to do right by her. >5.) Kathy must believe N/P are >her best shot at making >the F3. Maybe, maybe not. I think the first time an opportunity presents itself to split those two up, she'll be on board. > >The only REMOTE chance for a >tie vote is if the >General wins IC again. I would say that Robert's chances to win again are more than "remote". If it's a slingshot challenge, I'd put him up toward the top of likely winners. If he does win immunity again, N/P will target Vee. S/V will target Neleh. The two free agents in the mix are Kathy and Robert. IMO, Robert will side with N/P, and there's a good chance that Kathy will side with S/V; especially if she's already decided that they are her ticket to the endgame. >IMHO, there is NO CHANCE for >a tie vote this week >or next (obviously since there >will only be 5 left). IMO, there is a GOOD CHANCE for a tie this week; especially with the promo pointing to the "elimination vote". S/V/K vote Neleh, N/P/R vote Vee. Right now I'm leaning toward Neleh surviving the tiebreaker...whatever that might be. Fester "Checkmate, brah"--Sean, S4 E8   Top

Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 05-09-02, 11:46 AM (EST) 29. "RE: NO TIE VOTE possible this week or (obviously) next week IMO" LAST EDITED ON 05-09-02 AT 11:46 AM (EST) 4.) There is no evidence Kathy has ANY type of alliance with S/V or the General. I have to disagree with you on this one. We were shown a conversation with Kathy and Sean in which she put her hand on his thigh and promised not to vote for him. I can't remember whether it was for that one TC, or whether it was a longer agreement. But we have been shown that these two have had at least one discussion about an alliance. The only REMOTE chance for a tie vote is if the General wins IC again. I agree with Fester that this is not a remote chance. There have been discussions before on how hard the desperate player will fight for immunity. If we're willing to be open to the idea of Neleh or Vee -- neither of whom has won any challenges yet -- could win, then it's not a stretch that the person most desperate to stay in the game would be tough during the IC. IMHO, there is NO CHANCE for a tie vote this week or next (obviously since there will only be 5 left). If Robert loses IC, there won't be a tie vote. If he does, then I think it could go 3-3. Unlike Fester, I think that R/P/N would go after Sean instead of Vee...making this a true "elimination" vote. fluent in Sarcastic, Blahblah, and Mockery 'Canes Rock! Beat Canada!   Top

Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 05-09-02, 03:12 AM (EST) 27. "RE: The First Tie Vote" The only way I forsee a tie vote happening this episode is, if Robert again miraculously wins immunity. Barring that form happening, I think this is a far more likely occurence in the first hour of Ep. 13 (if it even happens at all) between the two factions or "cities"--one of which, IMHO, would most likely include Kathy. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Gabe: We don't need a skipper out here. The Cream rises to the top. So does the scum. | Light a Virtual Candle Eleanor Roosevelt: No one can make YOU feel inferior without YOUR consent!   Top

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