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"New Bob info....and changes to the show...."
SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings
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05-27-03, 02:33 PM (EST)
 
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2. "RE: New Bob info....and changes to the show...." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-27-03 AT 02:41 PM (EST)
No offense, but who the heck is Bob the Dancing Loon to be in a position to be demanding any "creative changes" to the series?
Maybe it's just me, but one series with Bob constantly hamming it up for the camera was more than enough for me... watching Bob try and jumpstart his stand up comic career this fall is something that I don't see myself having any interest in. Personally I kinda think ABC would be better served leading off the fall with another Bachelorette series... if you look at the full 2002-2003 season ratings, Bachelorette finished the season at #13 overall while Andrews's disappointing edition of B3 dragged Bachelor's season rating down to #18 -SB
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djandy 1711 desperate attention whore postings
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05-27-03, 06:20 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: New Bob info....and changes to the show...." |
I'm all for more Bachelorettes. Much more entertaining to watch. They should do 2 Bachelorettes and 1 Bachelor each year - for however long this franchise lasts.
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05-28-03, 12:53 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: New Bob info....and changes to the show...." |
I found Andrew such a disappointment to watch, Andrew was a disappointment for me, too, until they showed his real persnality on the "After the Rose" finale. He's a total nerd. I love that. Why do they make these guys (and Trista even) seem so "thoughtful, romantic and intense" when plain old charm and goofiness can be much more appealing? For that reason, I think Bob will be a great Bachelor. I've read so many positive comments about how great the interactions were among the guys themselves as well as with Trista during the Bachelorette. In fact, I don't think I've read one bad comment. Why DID ABC plan another Bachelor rather than a Bachelorette to follow on? I think it's probably a lot harder to find men willing to put themselves in the position of being "picked" by some chick on TV. My husband watched some of the Bachelorette with me and every time some of the guys would be sent home roseless, he would comment that they didn't care. They aren't like women, and for that reason, I bet it's difficult to find a guy who would go on the show, let alone 25 of them, all single, good-looking, straight, personable, photogenic, and of a high-enough status. (I don't think they' bring in a burger-flipper as one of the 25.) But the guys were much more interesting to watch. It was enjoyable to see Trista lose the respect of some of them, and gain the respect of others. Guys are an enigma to women, who are the largest audience for these shows. We like to watch them in that type of situation. I, for one, don't need to live as cinderella fantasy date vicariously through some chick on TV. I want to see the guys out of their element and working for something they might be too afraid to admit that they really want. 
"All right Ramblers, let's get ramblin'."
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05-28-03, 01:04 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: New Bob info....and changes to the show...." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-28-03 AT 01:06 PM (EST)I agree with some of what you say, Femme, but I also think that there are advantages and disadvantages to both ways (Bachelor and Bachelorette). The guys who were in the Bachelorette supposedly all wanted to meet Trista, and didn't just apply for the show blind. So maybe Kirsten or Tina Fabulous (or better yet, Christina) gets to be the next Bachelorette? I have fun watching the women get catty over the Bachelor, and Andrew's show provided plenty of material. Kirsten was especially enjoyable to watch, but Jen had some of that cattiness in her when she talked about Kirsten! The guys just do the "male bonding" thing that guys do (put male total strangers on a basketball court, give 'em a ball, and they'll play like longtime teammates, etc.). But I have to admit that it was fun watching stalker Russ not be invited to Trista's bedroom, while the other two guys were. Was that just the greatest comeuppance, or what?  (of course, if Femme were The Bachelorette, I'd sure apply to be on the show!   
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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05-28-03, 04:53 PM (EST)
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11. "The Bachelorette" |
>I think it's probably a lot harder to find men willing
>to put themselves in the position of being "picked" by
>some chick on TV. My husband watched some of the
>Bachelorette with me and every time some of the guys
>would be sent home roseless, he would comment that they
>didn't care. They aren't like women, and for that reason,
>I bet it's difficult to find a guy who would go on the show,
>let alone 25 of them, all single, good-looking, straight,
>personable, photogenic, and of a high-enough status. Your husband saw the same thing I did - the guys DIDN'T care if they went home. I would imagine that most, if not all of them, got enough female attention both before and after the show to forget about Trista very quickly. I agree that it's a bit harder to find guys than ladies to put up with the rose ceremony BS. But I disagree that's the real problem with "The Bachelorette". The real problem is you have to find a bachelorette who: 1) Is sincere about getting married,
2) Thinks you can really meet a husband this way,
3) Is attractive enough (physically mostly, but also mentally) to entertain a wide range of guys, and
4) Can be entertaining to the television audience.
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05-28-03, 06:44 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: New Bob info....and changes to the show...." |
I would also like to see more Bachelorette shows.But I think ABC likes the Bachelor shows because catty, competing women can be soooo entertaining on TV. Just look at Kirsten, Tina Fabulous, Drunk Amber, et. al. to see what I'm talking about. As to Bob, I still believe that they originally wanted Jamie to be the next Bachelor, and attempted to groom him that way. However, Bob's popularity (especially with women, the main target audience) and Jamie's apparent lack of popularity (and lack of personality) caused them to shift towards Bob.
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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08-18-03, 11:03 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: New Bob info....and changes to the show...." |
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but on the Oprah show, Charlie said that he had been approached about being the next bachelor, but because he is seeing someone, he turned it down.
That's when they approached Bob.
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jeannemarie97 23 desperate attention whore postings
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05-31-03, 10:02 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: New Bob info....and changes to the show...." |
Since I didn't see the Bachelorette, I'm dying to know how they handled the overnight dates towards the end. We've come so far backward with regard to the double standard (was ANYONE insulted by the fact that the words "woman" or "women" never crossed the lips of Andrew Firestone or Chris whoever he is) that I just cannot imagine middle America being able to handle a woman possibly spending the night with 3 different guys in quick succession. Did it go the same way as with Andrew? Did Trista show these guys an envelope with a key and use the same smooth line on each of them, "wanna check it out?", knowing full well that all this is being televised and would be viewed by all 3 of them. Suave dude...maybe they should have Jen head up sales for the company....perhaps a bit more maturity and sophistication there. Back to the question.....what the heck happened with all that? Did she spend the night with all 3 guys?
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06-01-03, 01:18 AM (EST)
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23. "Trista & the Key of Doom" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-01-03 AT 01:19 AM (EST)Ah yes, one of my favorite subjects... >Since I didn't see the Bachelorette, I'm dying to know how
>they handled the overnight dates towards the end. (snip) >Did it go the same way as with Andrew? Did Trista show these
>guys an envelope with a key and use the same smooth line
>on each of them, "wanna check it out?", knowing full well that
>all this is being televised and would be viewed by all 3 of
>them. The procedure was the same, even down to Trista saying, "Let's check it out." >Back to the question.....what the heck happened with all that?
>Did she spend the night with all 3 guys? She spent the night with two of them; she & the other guy had a fight just before the envelope was revealed, and they mutually decided to keep their separate rooms. Middle America's reaction was surprisingly muted. It was clear that she liked both guys and wanted to explore things further with each of them.
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06-01-03, 03:24 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Trista & the Key of Doom" |
Thanks, I am sufficiently edified if somewhat shocked that no one has from the far right has called for burning at the stake or at least the show being shut down. Wow! Those crazy liberals running the media. Go figure.
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06-02-03, 01:17 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Trista & the Key of Doom" |
She spent the night with two of them; This *appeared* to be the case, but one never knows. Probably she did sleep with Charlie and Ryan. they mutually decided to keep their separate rooms. Nothing mutual about it, at all! Trista rejected stalker Russ, pure and simple! He's tried to make it sound like it was his idea (during the "Tell All" show), where Trista then came out and rebuffed his story, and there's been an effort to make it seem like a mutual decision... but the truth is that Russ was humiliated because he didn't get invited into Trista's bedroom, and the other guys did. Served that stalker right, too!
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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06-03-03, 08:58 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Bob's Weight under scrutiny" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-03-03 AT 09:00 PM (EST)Turn it around and suppose that Bob were Barbara the new Bachelorette and she was too fat; would everyone be complaining about how shallow the guys are and how shallow the public is? I think not. I think it would be considered "the way things are unfortunately, men just HAPPEN to be attracted by the visual, the physical first and they get to know the person afterwards" or something to that effect would be the party line. God forbid that women should admit to the same thing: that we like tight, cute buns, a nice body in general and a nice looking face to go with it. Some nice clothes, shoes, good hair, all this stuff helps a whole lot too. It's different when you get to know someone over time, as in working with someone or knowing the person through mutual friends, etc., etc. Then, it's true, probably moreso (is that a word?) for women than for men, that looks don't matter all that much. But in a setting wherein the women don't even know the guy, he needs to be quite attractive to be pallatable for physical contact, I would say.
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06-08-03, 07:10 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Bob's Weight under scrutiny" |
ABC may have settled on Bob, warts and all, because they'd just been through a season of a boring, uninspiring, just plain dumb pretty boy.And I still think they asked their Viewership, through Arbitron or some other pollster, who the Viewership wanted to see, and the answers came back "Bob" and "Charlie." I've said this before, so I apologize if it sounds like beating a dead horse, but I really think ABC was grooming Jamie for it. They inexplicably gave him "hot seat" time on the "Bachelors Tell All" show the week before Trista picked Ryan (on TV). But Jamie was let go early by Trista, and IMHO didn't click with the polls.
Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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