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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"	02-14-08, 07:48 AM (EST)
"Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"
We usually keep track of who gets the pimp spot (last to sing) during the season, and I thought we could keep a record of that and other pimpage during the season. Hollywood Week, we saw a lot of Carly Smithson and Michael Lee Johns. TV Guide magazine for next week has 4 idols highlighted Kristy Lee Cook Michael Johns David Cook Asia'h Epperson. Agman's like a brother, Your best friend forever, Making the sigs, the sigs that you like.
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geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings
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02-14-08, 08:00 AM (EST)

1. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Hi Snidget -
Welcome to season 7!!!
In my ever-so-humble opinion, i think the most blatent - and unjustified - pimpage that we've seen consistantly this season is directed at Carly Smithson. And for the life of me, i don't understand it. I have yet to see anything special from her, but the judges are drooling like Homer and a bottle of Duff beer. Someone please explain!
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings
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02-14-08, 08:12 AM (EST)

2. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Um, she cost a record company Randy Jackson worked for like 2 million dollars and he has to do something to try to mitigate the loss?
VFTW link1
VFTW link2
Other than that, I got nothin'.

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geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings
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02-14-08, 08:28 AM (EST)

3. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Oh, silly me, I forgot to think in terms of 'backstage deals' and conspiracy theories yet this season.
When will i learn?! I must keep up with my VFTW "inside scoop", since they are such a reputable source.
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5. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 02-14-08 AT 08:50 AM (EST)
Well given you can buy Carly's CD on Amazon I do think there was, in fact, a record deal. (Used for as low as a penny, buy it from Itunes it is $9.99)
VFTW has the info handy to get to, but Carly's and others history with record deals has been pretty widely reported by a lot of places I expect to do fact checking.
Honestly, based on her look, her voice, her performance ability, etc I can't come up with any reason why she is so pimped over a lot of other people. The I didn't get a visa and my husband has tattoos on his face backstory really isn't that compelling, IMO.
Michael's Record Deal was mentioned in the TV Guide article, so I believe that one was real.
I don't buy any of the "They rigged the votes" information, but some people do come into Idol with many more connections than other people. Some depends on how long they've been trying to make it, but it seems we have a heck of a lot of people who were on other reality TV/Talent shows this year. Those facts seem to check out as well.

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02-14-08, 09:53 AM (EST)

7. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Oh, I do understand. I was being overly sarcastic on purpose.
I understand how places like VFTW and elsewhere where they admit to NOT like the show will come up with all these various conspiracy theories, etc, etc.
The fact remains, that yes, ideally Idol is to find the "Average Joe" singer who will be the next star. It worked for Kelly, and others, but who is to say that it can't work for those that fail to make it by the normal routes? There is nothing in teh Idol rule book to say that a failed recording artist can't compete. Yes, the connection to Randy is suspect, but that is for the execs to sort out, not VFTW or us.
But the pimping...I don't know. But i must admit that in Season 4 i didn't see all the Carrie pimpage either...and I have to admit that "post-idol", I am a fan and Simon was 100% right about her.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings
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02-14-08, 10:48 AM (EST)

8. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I never saw AI as an "Average Joe/Jane" gets to be a star thing. Even though I do see how the show tends to market itself that way. I know the rules are "no current contract" but I also get the point of how many chances does someone get if they just aren't what America wants to buy. The can't someone fresh get a chance for a change, or is AI going to end up being rejects from other reality TV shows and people that can't make a go of it with a big label backing them. It is a huge opportunity, and it would be nice to think that it isn't only for people inside the industry already. After all, why bother with the huge auditions if you can't get on the show unless you've already been on TV or had a contract that didn't work out.
I find those that have been working on a career generally do better than someone's that never really did much, if any, performing of any kind before AI. (and Kelly had recorded demos and stuff so it wasn't like she wasn't trying at all before Idol came along)
I still find Carrie a bit robotic on stage when I see her perform on TV, she's good in the studio and has done well finding the right songs to sing. I'm glad she is able to take the opportunity and make something of it.

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02-14-08, 11:46 AM (EST)

9. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I'm wondering if all of Carly's pimpage is going to backfire on her. That and I've heard numerous times "I thought this was AMERICAN Idol, and she's not AMERICAN". She may be an early out.

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02-14-08, 08:31 AM (EST)

4. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Carly Smithson got far and away the most pimpage, but there are a bunch that go into the next few rounds with the advantage that we know them, their names and their stories: Michael Johns, David Cook, Amanda, David Archileta, Kristy Lee Cook, Danny Noreiga and to a lesser extent the Philippino girl (I'm not sure how to spell her name), Syesha, Asia'H, Robbie Carrico and David Hernandez. Except for remembering Chickeze and Joanne's auditions, I don't know who any of the others are.
Does anyone remember who they pimped during Hollywood from last year and how they did? The only back story I remember was Phil's. I hope one of the forgotten pulls a Blake.

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6. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Ramiele is the name I think you are looking for.

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02-14-08, 05:59 PM (EST)

15. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Blake was very heavily promoted during Hollywood and auditions. His audition made it on the air and had the beatboxing, then singing. His (and his group's) remake of whatever song he sang got HUGE praise in Hollywood. As a note.

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02-14-08, 01:29 PM (EST)

10. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Hi All,
Haven't watched much of AI so far; of the auditions I did see I fast forwarded to see who got a golden ticket and then I only listened to them sing.

Last night I also did a fast forward through the show but I kept a list of those who were spotlighted and those who weren't. Unless the ones who weren't spotlighted have an amazing week next week they are toast for making the top ten or twelve.

AI still has the viewer appeal and Fox can certainly sell the airtime, so there is no reason whatsoever NOT to show for each contestant the back story or at least the walk down memory lane of the audition video that we got on so many last night.

Little/no focus--long shots for the top 10 or 12:

Jason Castro, 20, Rockwall, Texas;
Chikezie Eze, 22, Inglewood, Calif.;
Garrett Haley, 17, Elida, Ohio;
Luke Menard, 29, Crawfordsville, Ind.;
Danny Noriega, 18, Azusa, Calif.;
Jason Yeager, 28, Branson, Mo. --minor focus

Amy Davis, 25, Cedar Lake, Ind.;
Alexandrea Lushington, 17, Douglasville, Ga.;
Kady Malloy, 18, Houston;
Alaina Whitaker, 16, Tulsa, Okla.,

The press is calling out the pimpage this year:
From one EW article:
"And while Nigel Lythgoe & Co. unsurprisingly used the bulk of tonight's two hours to pimp their preordained favorites — congratulations to David Archuleta, Carly Smithson, and Michael Johns on hitting the season 7 jackpot! — I was stoked to see two additional front-runners emerge. "
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20007164_20171835_20177813,00.html

And from another EW article:
"
"The top 24 contestants of American Idol's seventh season are off and running — even though four of them are basically trapped in the starting gate. In typical inexplicable fashion, the show's producers managed to get through four looong weeks of auditions and three whole hours of Hollywood Week without letting us hear a single note from Jason ''Dreadlocks'' Castro, Luke ''Stubbly'' Menard, Garrett ''Shaggy'' Haley, and Jason ''Blond Patch'' Yeager. Might I suggest that if none of these dudes crack the top 12, they form a vocal quartet and call themselves Cannon Fodder?
Seriously, though, while I hate to write off these guys before they've had a chance to make an impression beyond their controversial grooming choices, it's worth noting that out of last year's top 12, 11th-place finisher Stephanie Edwards was the only one who hadn't scored significant screen time prior to the semifinals. In other words, while we've now reached the ''power to the people!'' portion of the competition, Nigel Lythgoe and his minions have already stuffed the ballot box. "
And

"The producers seemed hell-bent on limiting Chikezie's screen time this week to random shots of the guy triumphantly pumping his fist and lingering congenially backstage, but I still haven't forgotten how he turned ''All the Woman I Need'' into the musical equivalent of a Red Velvet cupcake. (Plus, dude has a righteous pop-star moniker.) David, meanwhile, reminded me a little of Michael C. Hall (of Showtime's Dexter) when he showed up for his final judgment in a gray vest and a bright pink tie, and while his persona sometimes borders on somnambulant, he's taken more smart risks with his song arrangements than any other hopeful this season. "
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20007164_20171835_20178034,00.html

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02-14-08, 05:51 PM (EST)

14. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I agree with the entire list, except for possibly Danny Noriega. I think we saw his audition and I think we see him in Hollywood (to an extent). At the least, we know who he is, unlike, say, Garrett, Luke, or Jason Yeager (or Castro). He'd be in the middle group for me. He didn't get the ##### kissing that Michael Johns got, but he's not a complete unknown at least

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02-14-08, 08:57 PM (EST)

16. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

My list is only from last night...others will have to weigh on whether auditions/backstories were shown for anyone on the list.
Last year we kept track --extensively--on the pimpage that people were getting starting at the top 12 boys and top 12 girls and it is what convinced me that the producers do what they can to manipulate the show. Pimpage came in placement and judges' comments. The plan for Jordan was foreshadowed by comments Nigel made in early interviews.
Now we have Simon in the press talking about Jordin's and Blake's not selling well, so they reaped **not much** from their plan.
Last season's pimpage thread--lots of good data :
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID44/2150.shtml
Archetype thread:
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID44/2272.shtml
Pimpage can start even earlier--like who they let in versus who they don't.
Anyone else think that Drew P (the male Carrie Underwood) didn't make it to keep the path clear for Kristy Lee Cook?

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02-29-08, 11:43 AM (EST)

29. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 02-29-08 AT 04:32 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 02-29-08 AT 04:18 PM (EST)
Recapping who is left so far from the list of those who got little focus on the night they were told they made the top 24

still there-- Jason Castro, 20, Rockwall, Texas;
still there**-- Chikezie Eze, 22, Inglewood, Calif.
still there-- Danny Noriega, 18, Azusa, Calif.
still there*-- Luke Menard, 29. Crawfordsville, Ind.

BOOTED--Garrett Haley, 17, Elida, Ohio;
BOOTED--Jason Yeager, 28, Branson, Mo. --minor focus
BOOTED--Amy Davis, 25, Cedar Lake, Ind.;
BOOTED--Alexandrea Lushington, 17, Douglasville, Ga.;
BOOTED--Alaina Whitaker, 16, Tulsa, Okla.,
and
BOTTOM THREE--Kady Malloy, 18, Houston;
Also noting that the two who were featured as being the last of the guys or girls to make the top 24 are also BOOTED: Colton and Joanne. Was it hard for them to overcome the resentment created by their "supplanting" the other contestant? Perhaps. But they weren't very good in their performances last week, either, so they didn't help themselves.
*was Luke a bottom three guy? All we know is Ryan pulled him out with Robbie C to make it seem like Luke was at risk.
**Chikeze was also made to look like a bottom 3 guy in the top 24 to 20 elimination night. Amanda also got the same treatment that night and both were able to remain in the competition the next week (so did looking like they could go rally their support base? Does that mean Luke and Kady will sail through next week into the F12?).
Note: The other boot to date was Robbie C., who got some exposure of F24 night but was criticized for not being authentic (a dig at his supposed rockerish long haired wig?) and for not standing out from the rest of the pack.

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02-29-08, 12:30 PM (EST)

30. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

So, of the ten or so people with limited promotion, six are gone (of the first eight overall), one was B3.
Yeah.

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02-29-08, 01:30 PM (EST)

31. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Thanks, Fishercat. I know you "get" it. One of these years I will hit on the definitive formula for picking the winner really early...based solely on the Pimp factor. I feel like we are getting close with all the data.

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32. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I'm not trying to quibble with your theory, because I believe it 100%, but Luke Menard is still around. Robbie went home and he was pimped some. Voice wise I don't think he should have, but he was fighting the pop background too hard, and people noticed. I really think Luke is still around because he is a nice and very good-looking guy. I'd be surprised if he lasts another week unless he knocks it out of the park.
Jason C., Chikezie and Danny also have something distinctive about them that help you remember them.
I like your posts zazzy, keep it up!

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02-29-08, 04:09 PM (EST)

33. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 03-04-08 AT 07:14 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 03-04-08 AT 07:13 PM (EST)
Oops, thanks for catching the error. That's what a sinus headache will do for you! I'll go edit the post now.
One thing I haven't mentioned yet is the outside influences impact--both positive and negative.
VFTW has selected Amanda and Danny so that may help them hang in...while in other news, Amanda's DUI from 2006 has surfaced along with the (supposedly confirmed) rumor that David H has been a gay stripper in bars in Phoenix. VFTW has pics of him working at the gay bars and several posters posting that they saw him there/had him dance for him. Actual pics of his stripping have not yet surfaced.
How these news items help or hurt these contestants remains to be seen. We have them every season. Does it shift or change the pimpage?
Edited to add on 3/4/08: Today, performance night for the top 8 guys, the gay stripper David H story hit the AP wires. Also the Ramiele "fun with friends pics" --where Ramiele is posing (clothed) with either her friends' hands on her boobs or her hand on someone else's boob. Will AI comment on either of these tonight?

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03-11-08, 01:44 PM (EST)

40. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Now that we are down to the top 12, recapping the ten who had no focus/little focus on the top 24 reveal night:
still there-- Jason Castro, 20, Rockwall, Texas;
still there ** Chikezie Eze, 22, Inglewood, Calif. (pimp spot)
BOOTED--Danny Noriega, 18, Azusa, Calif.
BOOTED--Luke Menard, 29. Crawfordsville, Ind.
BOOTED--Garrett Haley, 17, Elida, Ohio;
BOOTED--Jason Yeager, 28, Branson, Mo. --minor focus
BOOTED--Amy Davis, 25, Cedar Lake, Ind.;
BOOTED--Alexandrea Lushington, 17, Douglasville, Ga.;
BOOTED--Alaina Whitaker, 16, Tulsa, Okla.,
BOOTED--Kady Malloy, 18, Houston
** implied Bottom 3 guys on top 16 to top 12 night.
So 8 of the 10 who had no focus/little focus on the top 24 reveal night did not make the top 12. 80%!

Of the remaining 14 who had focus that night, 10 made the top 12. Just over 71%!

Both Jason C and Chikeze have had some help with singing order. While Jason C has not yet been pimped, he got to sing next to the last twice: 11/12, 2/10 and 7/8 guys; while Chikeze sang 2/12, 8/10 and 8/8 (pimp spot) guys. So both of these guys got near last or last placement twice each. That helps. Not taking away from performances--just that placement helps, too.

Kady Malloy sums up Hollywood Week in this post boot interview:
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/ousted-american-idol-hopeful-kady-malloy-didnt-get-cowell-criticism-6683.php

" "After my audition I was ecstatic. I was in shock," she said. "I went in there thinking, 'Oh going to hate me and bash me.' He actually liked me. It was really crazy for me. Then going into Hollywood Week, I tried to pick songs that would suit me. I guess it did well for me."
However Malloy suffered a minor setback during the Hollywood Round, as she was one of several subsequent semifinalists who didn't receive much face time.
"Whenever I was watching the Hollywood episodes, I was like, 'Where am I?'" she recalled. "But that's how it was edited I guess." "

Even 18 year old Kady understands that the deck is not stacked fairly in the AI process.
Now...road to the F4. Who gets pimped? Who gets ignored?

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02-14-08, 03:35 PM (EST)

11. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

What i would like to see someone do (and perhaps its already been done), would be to go back through previous year's audition/hollywood rounds and see who was pimped and who wasn't and compare that to where the contestants finally landed for that season.
Logically, I don't believe America is that CONTROLLABLE by teh producers, but it would be interesting to see.
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02-14-08, 03:51 PM (EST)

12. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 02-14-08 AT 03:52 PM (EST)
If you aren't seen before the top 24 performances and do really well you can overcome the lack of name recognition.
However if you aren't memorable during the show and not shown before the top 24 I think that really works against you. That is probably why some not seens do OK and some are first voted off. How well they do the first time we see them sing.
The producers can only manipulate things so much, but I do think making sure someone is known can protect them for a few rounds, particularly if there was something really memorable about them. The if you've heard them sing really well you might forgive a less than stellar performance on their first vote off show. The I know you can sing it was just nerves effect. If you never heard them sing you can't get a feel if they really are better than that.
People do vote emotionally rather than just on talent so a good back story can also get you some votes if you don't do that well the first couple of weeks out.
On the other hand doing too well during the auditions and too well the first few weeks also seems to work against people. It seems that we love to see growth. Sure hitting a homer the first week out may also get you some "I know they can sing it was just a bad week" votes later on, but it can also be a disadvantage if people think that first time out was the best we ever heard and it's been all down hill since them.
ETA: I kept better track this year so we can come back because sometimes we want to know things like that. I'm sure there is a list of who we didn't see form all the seasons somewhere.

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02-14-08, 05:47 PM (EST)

13. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

It isn't a dealbreaker. After all, we've seen hugely featured people flop and we've see rarely seen types (Bo Bice and Elliot Yamin come to mind) go far. All we saw of Elliot was his group week performance (due to the Brittenum) and we saw none of Bo.
However, it's hard to deny that it's a pretty huge help. Sundance had a good audition and good F20 performance, and he made it to the precipice of the Final 12. Generally, the top finishers got a lot of exposure, good or bad, during auditions and Hollywood. Let's look at last year as a test
The First Four Cut: Amy Krebs, Nicole Tranquillo, Paul Kim, and Rudy Cardenas. Paul Kim had some exposure (mostly for the gross barefoot thing, but also as the anti-Hung), but the other three had very limited or almost no screen time. Rudy might have gotten some time, but the two girls were almost unseen.
The Next Four Cut: A.J. Tabaldo, Nick Pedro, Alaina Alexander, and Leslie Hunt. None of those four were heavily featured. Nick Pedro got some hype as a retry and they had two weeks of performances. Additionally, at the least, Alaina went home on merit (she was horrible). None of those four were hugely talented either, but they didn't have exposure
The 16 Round: Antonella Barba, Sabrina Sloan, Jarred Cotter, and Sundance Head. Sundance and Antonella got pre-show hype. This is where the establishment point seems to be. Sabrina was good but boring, Jarred was "meh", and combined, Antonella and Sundance had one good performance (and Sundance surrounded that good performance by two "Worst" caliber performances).
If you look at the Top 12, I only see three to five people America didn't know really well going in. Brandon Rogers (12th), Stephanie Edwards (11th), Haley Scarnato (8th), and MAYBE Phil Stacey and Chris Richardson (6th and 5th). The entire Top 4 was heavily promoted, Richardson and Stacey got some time, and Sligh/Sanjaya got press too.
If you go back to Season Five, it plays similar. Of the first eight eliminated, only David Radford and Brenna Gethers had a good amount of hype (for being a crooner and a mouth respectively). Among the Top 12, only Elliot (3rd), Bucky (8th), and Melissa (12th) didn't get some real attention in the audition and Hollywood rounds.
It's not insurmountable, but it's sort of like baseball. The Yankees having 200 million isn't insurmountable for the Devil Rays...it just makes life a lot harder.
(Note, the pimping is based off of my recollection, which I'd like to think it relatively accurate)

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17. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I agree not just every average joe can make it, look at Taylor Hicks, while he was awesome on the show he just isnt marketable. Heck and I'm from about an hour north of birmingham where he is from.
http://www.vote4alaina.com

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18. "Top 24 Pimp Spot-Boys"

Heh-I even have a spreadsheet this year, but that helps with the getting them with the phone numbers in order quickly for the ECST as well.
Michael Johns got the pimp spot and flame graphics for the boys this week.
I'm often googling lyrics so I don't always see as much of the performance as I should (I tend to listen more than watch anyway)
Robbie Carrico got flashing light effects that I noticed as that can trigger a migraine so I tend to be alert for those things.
Jason Castro played an instrument this week. Isn't necessarily pimpage, but I might keep track of that as well to see how that pans out for the contestants.

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23. "RE: Top 24 Pimp Spot-Boys"

I think the guitar definately could be considered a pimping tool. Whether it is his decision to use it or that of the producers is up to the conspiracy theorists to decided. But think about it...for many people who aren't as adament in tracking the contestants as many of the people on this board are, the guitar is an easy way to remember that contestant. This year I am fighting my roommate to watch on Tuesday nights (she prefers The Biggest Loser and we are flipping back and forth so I miss a lot). Since I missed several performances, I remember the guy with the guitar and if I was voting (I am not THAT person who votes without being sure and seeing all of the performances) I might vote for him just because I remember him and I only rememebe him because of the guitar.
In conclusion (I know I rambled some), I would discount the use of the guitar as a pimping tool.

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19. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Singing order: Top 12 Boys
1. David H
2. Chikeze
3. David C
4. Jason Y
5. Robbie C
6. David A
7. Danny N
8. Luke M
9. Colton --booted--
10. Garrett --booted--
11. Jason C
12. Michael J **pimp spot**
Singing order: Top 12 Girls
1. Kristy Lee C.
2. Joanna --booted--
3. Alaina
4. Amanda
5. Amy D. --booted--
6. Brook W
7. Alexandrea L
8. Katie M
9. Asiah E
10. Ramiele
11. Syesha
12. Carly S **pimp spot**

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02-24-08, 12:25 PM (EST)

20. "RE: Top 12 Boys--Judge Pimpage"

Judges' comments: who was pimped and who was anti-pimped? This recaps the pimp or anti pimp comments. For full comments see the East Coast Spoiler thread. Note that Ryan jumps on the pimp wagon for a couple of contestants; also that six guys were pimped and six were not.
Most pimped:
David A (hands down!):
Randy: “that was really brilliant”
Paula: “ brave and bold choice; we have never seen that side of you; unbelievably confident; older soul that knows what is best for you”
Simon: “when you’ve got it, you’ve got it and by a comfortable mile that was the best performance so far”
Ryan: tells David he is very shy and likeable

Jason C:
Simon: “top 2 of the performances for the night; you, like David, have just “got it”; just you and guitar was good, didn’t need the band; it was effortless; you have charisma; it was terrific.”

Michael Johns:
Randy “yo yo, what a way to end a great night; love you; you throw caution to the wind; I am seeing a true legend, rock performer ; that was hot, you’re the bomb”
Paula: “ excellent way to end the night great, great ending; great part of the show”
Simon: “ I would say you are the most consistent contestant we have had; didn’t like it as much as the Bohemian Rhapsody; … natural charisma of a lead singer; you have just got it”

David C:
Randy: “ it was crazy….worthy of great praise; … rocked it”
Simon: (faint praise) “…good, shouted the song a little in the middle …almost made it believable”

Robbie C:
Randy: “you had me rocking out; you moved me baby”
Paula: “you picked the perfect song; you are authentic, the vocals were not over the top”
Simon: “it is the only performance we have seen tonight that is current and has the semblance of making sense….struggling about the authenticity… are you pop or rock?” (Robbie says rock) (this is getting him good interaction time with the judges)
Ryan: says Robbie looks like Justin Timberlake (what a planted comment--this is in contrast to what Ryan says to other contestants or does not say to other contestants)

David H-faint praise--the mixed pimp (for full comments check out the East Coast Spoiler thread), here are his positives:
Randy: "you can blow and you showed that"
Paula: "good job"
Simon: "better than I thought it would be"

The anti-pimped:

Chikeze: Simon: "hated the whole performance" “hideous suit” and “could have been filmed 40 years ago”
Jason Y: Simon: “dependable old dog” “older” “cruise ship performer”
Danny N: Simon: “ the performance was verging on grotesque; it was hideous; and if this was the first time anyone saw the show...which was destroying an Elvis Presley song… they would think this was terrible “
(note: Randy and Paula pimped Danny somewhat but Simon obliterated that with his grotesque comment)
Luke:
Randy: “pitchy”
Paula: “not the best song for you”
Simon: “not memorable”
Colton: (was booted)
Simon: “not relevant to today’s market”
Garrett: (was booted)

Randy: “boring”
Paula:: “slow brings the performance down”*
Simon: “boring, whiney, haunted pale”
* haven’t these contestants researched past seasons? The judges **hate** ballads at these early stages. They want energy and entertainment! Read past seasons’ top 24 East Coast Spoiler threads…and you can see comments about the judges slamming ballads.

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21. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 02-24-08 AT 04:29 PM (EST)
Top 12 Girls -- Judges' Comments
I grouped these into three groups: Pimped, mixed pimpage, and anti-pimping. Once again we had Ryan adding positive spin on a few contestants. These happened to be the same ones that Simon had particularly positive comments on.
With the girls we were told that a really bad flu was going around and had affected them. This seemed to have pushed two early favs, Kristy Lee and Carly into the mixed pimpage group.
This leaves me unclear who the fav girls really are for the top 12 or ten. Guess we need another round or two.
Postive pimping

Syesha Mercado --extra special pimpage from Simon
Randy: “you can definitely can sing, you got a big voice, (some pitchiness & not my favorite performance but…) really liked it, consistent”

Paula: “ joyful, fun, big way to go, consistent is what it is all about”
Simon: (When have you heard this?) “agree with Randy, not your best performance, ** but that doesn’t really matter because you are probably one of the most talented girls in this group**, you have an attitude, you try hard, it was terrific…. **she has the total package**”
Ryan reinforces Simon’s pimping by asking Simon if she has the package, the total package, and Simon says “oh my, yes ….she’s just got “it” “
Paula reminds us “yes” is in her name, Syesha

Alaina
First she talks with Ryan and she gets to tell us that her birthday is the next day and she wants to stay on AI for her present.
Randy: “year of the young ones; beginning is rough but you got it going on, so good”
Paula: “good song, sang it joyful, you nailed it, best ending I have heard on that song, good job”
Simon: “I think you are very good, first time tonight we didn’t see any nerves but I hate the song, it is corny but if you can make a song as awful as that sound ok when you have a decent song ** you will be great** …. you are sailing through to the next round after that”
Ryan tells her “you are hot; congratulations, great job”

Asiah Epperson (we get reminded that her father passed away at the time of her audition)
Randy: “I loved that, yo, you brought some of you to it; you did your thing; I was impressed”
Paula: “you had some fun and some good moments” (hmm, Paula not so convinced?)
Simon: “for me **it was my favorite of the night**, you let go, you are fun and likeable you don’t take your self too seriously”
Ryan : reminds us she has been through a lot and then tells us it was fun; good job.

Ramiele
Randy: “ what I loved --you started slow and saved it for the end, you stuck to the melody and made it your own”
Paula: “you are a force to be reckoned with; you had a really great performance”
Simon: “I am the first to admit…I didn’t like you at first you were the most consistent in the Hollywood rounds, tonight you out sung every single person”

Amanda O:
Randy: “liked it, bluesy rocker chick“; positive comments on her patched jeans, too (this reminds me of how he used to slot Gina into the rocker chic archetype, only in Amanda’s case we know it rings true)
Paula: “liked it, loves everything she does, she is not a one trick pony and loves every bit of it”
Simon: “he really likes her, thinks she is authentic and stands out in a crowd; hope she stays around for awhile” Says “I like it “(her style) (also interesting exchange about scatting where Simon shows his ignorance of this song by first putting down her scatting portion--this alone could have served to rally support)

Brook W:
Randy: “you got your slay on and sang the daylights out of it”
Paula: “what this competition is about is originality, you have your own thing and that’s what I love about you, right song”
Simon: “you chose the right song, sang it well though (back handed her with comment about the song was like a 60’s song for washing up liquid, though and asks her if she will be that nice throughout the competition)
Mixed pimping

Carly S (gets the pimp spot but mixed pimpage with good cop/bad cop judges)
Randy: “so man, that’s what the show is all, about you have bronchitis and cold and the worst flu in history but (and he says this next part really emphatically and with a lot of excitement) ** that was the best vocal the past two days, the top 24, is right here **“
Paula: “You are a lucky coin in the pocket, this is it, right here, you have a beautiful voice, beautiful inflections, you don’t have to power your voice, the tenderness of your voice, you have good inflections”
Simon: “Sorry, once again, I am on my own, there is so much expectation….so much hype and buzz I don’t get it, there is so much hype and buzz “ (Paula interrupts that that is a good thing), song was way too old for you and the mic technique is cabaret, was expecting something fantastic like Fantasia and Kelly”
Alexandrea L (mixed pimpage--Randy and Paula very positive and Simon, the opposite):
Randy: “yo, I got to say it again this season 7 its about being young, you blew the doors off of it you stayed on the notes, it was hot”
Paula: “you took control of your performance, you wore the dope outfit ,and I saw more confidence than in any other performance and better than any interpretation than any other on the radio just now”
Simon: “I didn’t get it, I didn’t think the vocals were great and it reminded me of a horrible show like a terrible sixties musical “ and some comment that she is not relevant to today’s radio play.
Kristy Lee C. --they made SURE we knew she had been ill, many times this was mentioned; I put her in mixed pimping because they made such a big deal of it

Randy: “not your best performance, rough around the edges some pitch problems”
Paula :“ being sick and the first one that’s a double whammy don’t let it get in the way of your shine and performance you have to emote”
Simon “ the song didn’t suit you, the performance was robotic” and “ bronchitis and flu whatever and we have done this show when we are ill…nothing to grab hold of, complete wrong choice of song for you
Ryan talked to her about not feeling well.

Negative pimping:
Kadie M:
Randy: “never really quite there for me, like your concentration was gone”
Paula: compliments her appearance, but then: “I want to see the life and fun Katie personality”
Simon: “ for once I agree with Paula, that was like night of the living dead, when you do “you”, the lights go off you came off 80 not 18 so lighten up. Who would impersonate you …a pencil?”

Amy D (was booted):
Randy: “it wasn’t great; lots of pitch problems”
Paula: “not the most engaging song for you to sing lackluster”
Simon: “it was what it was; you didn’t sound great, incredibly cabaret, sounded like it went on for ten minutes, you are going to struggle after that”

Joanne B (was booted--no wonder, Simon really sank her ship)
Randy: “your voice was shaky for me”
Paula: “pull it together to show us what you have”
Simon: “didn’t like it at all, very average, cabaret version of the song, no confidence, nothing in her vocal that he could get a hold of to make a good recording artist if you don’t grab hold of chance to be an artist now you don’t deserve to win the show. Taking both Randy and my (Simon’s) comments together the whole song was terrible.”

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22. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 02-27-08 AT 01:32 PM (EST)
Just noting that I read on MJ's Big Blog that some of the spoilers from the guys performance came from a girl whose school let them go to the performance...and when David A was singing I recall seeing at least two rows of swooning teenage girls right up front.
IMO that is a pimpage move, right out of the Frank Sinatra handbook (Frank or his manager hired women to swoon over him when he first got started and then other women followed along, so after that he had swooners for free).
That swooning, along with the pimp spot and beautiful lighting helped highlight his performance. Will have judges' comments when I have watched the rest of the show (have the middle part on tape) but David A's were the pimp of the highest level hands down.

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24. "Video Package Pimpage--top 10 girls"

"Video Package Pimpage" --Pimping takes a lot of forms, this is yet another one.
I didn't watch most of the auditions so I don't know what types of video background they gave on the contestants....but last night it was apparent that they gave extra effort in a couple of cases:
Kristy Lee Cook --someone sent out a video crew to tape Kristy with her horses, creating quite the look for her riding them (and for us to learn earlier that she had to sell her horse to come to AI) and then last night, that she was a tomboy. I feel like I am being "sold" on Kristy Lee (couple that with Simon's comments, we will see her emerge as the country singer next week which is no surprise because didn't she already have a contract at one time in Nashville? Yeesh.)

Contrast that with:
Kady Malloy-- we see her sing opera in a bathroom. Wow. Big effort there, AI.
Carly Smithson-- not only have we heard about the tatoo parlor, now we see her at her job AND her home making her bed so that we learn she is very homey/Suzy homemaker-ish and not all about tats. So they sent a video crew out to her work and home.

Contrast that with:

Alaina W: she doesn't like one food group to touch another on her plate. Again, big effort there, AI.

Wonder who goes tonight? Any chance it is Alaina and Kady?
Just to recap the other top 10 girls Fun Facts:
Syesha--she wants to be/has been an actress; has done TV commercials and can imitate a baby crying
Brooke--went to beauty school and is a beauty school drop out
Ramiele--learned Polynesian dances as a child and demos them for us now
Amanda--is a bookworm and knowledge is power (this reminds me of David Cook's package last night, word nerd)
Alexandrea--her dad worked for the Atlanta FD and she was their poster child; got to sing for 9/11 (this is a heart string tugger vid package)
Asaih -- was a cheerleader and demonstrates a cheer for us

The contrast of Carly's and Kristy Lee's packages with the rest of the crop is huge imo. I have to think that the girls are noticing it as well.

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26. "RE: Video Package Pimpage--top 10 girls"

>Carly Smithson-- not only have we
>heard about the tatoo parlor,
>now we see her at
>her job AND her home
>making her bed so that
>we learn she is very
>homey/Suzy homemaker-ish and not all
>about tats.
>>>
>
>The contrast of Carly's and Kristy
>Lee's packages with the rest
>of the crop is huge
>imo. I have to
>think that the girls are
>noticing it as well.

Actually, I thought the Carly video was dreadful - showing her making a bed ??? - maybe that appeals to a certain demographic (misogynistic men), but I thought it was pitiful. My daughers (tween/teen) are much more likely to vote for someone showing a healthy lifestyle (horseback riding) or singing at ground zero than being a maid!
Incidentally, (totally unrelated to pimpage) - not allowing food to touch, and to the extent of using different cutlery, is a huge flag for anorexia. (Alaina )

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25. "Video Package Pimpage--top 10 boys"

LAST EDITED ON 03-10-08 AT 02:14 PM (EST)
This recaps the top ten boys' video packages:
Michael Johns--vid package of his playing tennis (nice vid package for Michael--he is athletic AND a good singer )
Contrast that with:
Jason C--has a hard time doing interviews. IMO this made him look doofy instead of endearing. (no big vid package)
Other top ten boys packages:
Luke M--was part of an acapella group, Chapter 6
Robbie C--likes to drag race
Danny N-- was in a punk rock band in high school
David H-- did gymnastics as a kid and can do handsprings, etc.
Jason Y--self taught on drums, piano, guitar
Chikeze--his heritage and name are Nigerian and he tells how the pronunciation became Chick-easy instead of the correct Nigerian pronunciation.
Contrast that with:
Pimp drum roll....please...
David A--home video of David A performing years ago for the season one idol contestants and Kelly Clarkson exclaiming over his talent... so we get a Kelly C seal of approval on David A.

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Edited to add: David C's vid package was: that he is a word nerd.

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27. "RE: Video Package Pimpage--top 10 boys"

>Pimp drum roll....please...
>
>David A--home video of David A
>performing years ago for the
>season one idol contestants and
>Kelly Clarkson exclaiming over his
>talent... so we get a
>Kelly C seal of approval
>on David A.
Too funny! They couldn't have planned that any better...even I was like wow...The AI Gods are smiling on David A !!!

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28. "Top 20 results pimpage"

Who was pimped last night?
Who got sing outs in the group song?
Michael J
David A
David C
David H
Jason Y (booted)
Carly S
Kristy Lee C
Brook W
Kady M
Amanda O
Alexandrea L (booted)

Who got their positive comments from judges recapped in the performance night recaps last night?
I didn't think about this until I read the recap on MJ's Big Blog...and I realized that Michael J and Carly S both had the positive portions of their judges' comments repeated...Paula's comments for Michael and Simon's comment for Carly. Recall that Randy and Simon were not effusive with Michael and Simon was mixed on Carly but gave her the "one to beat" pimpage. I think David A's were shown, too. If I missed anyone let me know. So we got select, lead-the-thinking of the viewing audience comments recaps for them. Something to watch in future weeks.
Who got camera time with the boots--via reaction shots?
The stand out was David A, who was crying over the loss of his fellow Star Search competitor, Alexandrea L. We got shots of Carly looking tearful about Robbie. Ramiele (we were told she is the emotional one) got several reaction shots, too.
Anything else?
Luke and Danny N were made to seem semi-vulnerable; Luke in particular being called to stage with Robbie. I guess they need someone to hug. We were told Kady is bottom 3...so she is vulnerable. If voters want more Brtittany Spears impersonations, they need to dial in for her next week. Jason C. was teased about hating to do interviews--by Ryan telling him he had "bad news" (that he had to talk to Ryan again next week). David C. got a judges' comment recap, too, but his was negative with his Simon tiff, only to be tempered with a post show apology from David C.
Who got left out? No spotlights except for being told they were safe for: Chikeze, Syesha, Asia'h.

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34. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Singing order: Top 10 Boys

1. Michael J
2. Jason C
3. Luke --bottom 3 guys?--
4. Robbie C --booted--
5. Danny N
6. David H
7. Jason Y --booted--
8. Chikeze
9. David C
10. David A **pimp spot**

Singing order: Top 10 Girls
1. Carly Smithson
2. Syesha Mercado
3. Brooke White
4. Ramiele Malubay
5. Kristy Lee Cook
6. Amanda Overmyer
7. Alaina Whitaker --booted--
8. Alexandrea Lushington --booted--
9. Kady Malloy --bottom 3 girls--
10. Asia’h Epperson **pimp spot**
Pimp spot recap to date:
Top 24:
Guys: Michael J
Girls: Carly S
Top 20:
Guys: David A
Girls: Asai'h E

Quoting Snidget's first post on this thread:
"Hollywood Week, we saw a lot of Carly Smithson and Michael Lee Johns.
TV Guide magazine for next week has 4 idols highlighted:
Kristy Lee Cook
Michael Johns
David Cook
Asia'h Epperson "
The only ones mentioned by Snidget who has not yet gotten pimped are Kristy Lee Cook and David C. Kristy has been recovering from the flu/bronchitis (with 5 antibiotics, don't ya know), so a pimp spot so far would have been wasted...will she get it next week? And will David C.?

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35. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 03-01-08 AT 11:21 AM (EST)
This EW interview with the most recent Top 20 bootees sums up what happens behind the scenes. Jason Y, in particular, sums up what we are tracking in this pimpage thread--judges' comments, song clearance issues, camera time, editing, backstory focus, etc..
Here is a snippet of just part of Jason Y's portion; to read the rest of Jason's and all of Alexandrea's, Alaina's, or Robbie's interviews, go to the article:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20181427,00.html
" JASON YEAGER, 28, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What do you think went wrong?
JASON YEAGER: Well, you know, I was kind of in a lose-lose situation. The first week, Simon bashed me — you know, all of them really kind of criticized me for being too old-fashioned. They criticized me for not doing a ''singer's song.'' So, I was at a loss for words. I didn't really know what to say or do with myself at that point.
EW: When you're picking the song, do you think about making sure to pick a ''singer's song''?
Jason: First of all, you've got themes, so you're restrained to a decade. Then you're listening to all these different songs. The producers have lists of songs that are cleared for television, so you can pick off that list — but what are the odds that any of those songs are really going to be you? There's not a whole heck of a lot of time given to do really good research and to listen and try to find a killer song for yourself. And sometimes you're back to the drawing board if the song isn't approved. There's so much more that goes into it that people don't see. Some artists are completely off-limits that I really enjoy and would really showcase me. You have a couple of hands tied behind your back.

EW: Now, you were born in 1979, right? On the tail end of the '70s, and even then, you were just a baby. Had it been, say, '90s week, would you have had a better chance?

Jason: Oh, absolutely. One of my biggest influences was Boyz II Men. I had some Boyz II Men lined up because they were thinking about doing '90s week. Next week was going to be '80s, so I thought, ''Well, great, Journey would totally showcase my vocals'' — but we ran into problems with getting rights. The killer song for me never really seemed to pan out. I don't want to place blame on song selection. I wish I could have found that one song... I had so much against me.

EW: Like what?
Jason: Nobody knew who I was before I showed up in the top 24. Colton was in the same boat; Garrett was in the same boat. It's kind of sad sometimes.

EW: Do you think that's unfair?
Jason: I think you're definitely at a disadvantage, and I don't care what people say: You are at a disadvantage when you know that you were there, but according to America, it's like, ''Why didn't they show you during your first round?'' I don't know. ''How come they didn't show you during Hollywood?'' I don't know. ''How come they haven't done any backstories on you?'' I have no idea. So now I'm faced with being in the top 24 — and blessed to be there — but now I've got to do something that's going to get people behind me.

EW: That does seem pretty unfair.
Jason: It just made me laugh when Simon was like, ''I think your problem is that you don't stand out.'' I just laughed to myself on the inside, because I did everything everyone else did — all the interviews and whatnot — but I have absolutely no say over what gets used on the show. It was just disappointing. I have so much more I could have shown people if I had the chance. Right now, I'm just trying to swallow all that up. "

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36. "Top 10 girls pimpage"

LAST EDITED ON 03-04-08 AT 12:09 PM (EST)
Here are Simon's comments for the top 10 girls:
Simon gives his seal of approval pimpage:
(1) Carly S. “I still don’t think yet you have chosen or connected yet with the right song yet I think you are -- I’ll put it on record --an incredible singer; I don’t think any of these girls can touch you vocally, but what you haven’t done is chosen that one song that gives you the absolute moment and at the point you do, if you do, I think you will be around for a long time I think you’re the girl they’re gonna have to all beat”
(4) Ramiele: “you are terrific; you are one of the top three singers in this competition but this isn’t one of your best”
(5) Kristy Lee C: “You have potential”
(7) Alaina: “ you are a dark horse in this competition”
and to Brooke:
(3) Brooke: “ ok, absolutely loved it; it was absolute perfect song for you; the song connected; didn’t sound old fashioned and this is why we put you through to the latter stages”
Simon antipimpage:
(2) Syesha: “ song not written for a girl…silly thing to have done it…so I was put off as soon as you started it; it wasn’t designed for your voice, not a particularly clever choice for you”

(6) Amanda: “ in your film you were natural and cool and now everything felt contrived from what you wear to your terrible hair to the song, none of it felt natural or real , you are in your own little world , quite an ugly song, couldn’t wait for it to finish, didn’t really get that and if you want the popular vote you wont get it by doing that.”
(9) Kady: “I’m struggling as much as you are; I’m very frustrated; opera was quite good; (you’re) struggling ; on film you are good, now you are trying to impersonate a Christina ; a song I’ve never heard before; no melody; didn’t go anywhere.
(10) Asis‘h: “ it is one of THE diva songs of all time and you have to be one heck of the singer to pull it off and unfortunately you are not; you nearly did it but the truth is you are not that good of a singer …almost got away with it … imo, the song is too big for you and it showed you up; it was a silly decision.”
and as kindly as possible for Simon:
(8) Alexandrea: (This was delivered very kindly) “ I was a big, big fan of yours in the early stages of the competition, I think you are struggling now and I think that song has never been covered and it is stuck in its time period. There is nothing to do with the song; there is nothing YOU can do with the song… you were in and out of tune and looked uncomfortable it just wasn’t you but you look terrific, current; it was boring”

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37. "RE: Top 10 girls pimpage"

Ryan's interactions, Randy's and Paula's comments on top ten girls:

Carly: Ryan gives her a chance to talk about liking the song
Brooke: “good choice, darling” Stands with his arm around her. Judges enjoyed the whole ‘is she singing about Simon” thing with “You’re so vain”.
Ramiele: joshing about her song choice “lullaby” instead of Mullaby
Kristy Lee: discusses her antibiotics (so we’ll remember she was ill) and gives her a chance to talk about her love for country music
Syesha: pretty much just got a “good luck” from Ryan after a quick question
Amanda: just asked her a quick question about genres
Alaina: talks fashion with her
Alexandrea: talks with her about being an underdog; gives her a hug
Kady: discusses her charm versus not the right song choice
Asia’h: discusses Asia’h taking a risk; reminds us she was ill this week

Randy
Kristy Lee: 100% improvement, pretty in tune, I liked it
Asia’h: it was great; tells us she had been sick; highest degree of difficulty for the week
Carly: pitch concerns; it’s alright
Brooke: great song choice; talks about Carly Simon
Ramilele: just ok
Syesha: not a good song choice
Amanda: not the right song, pitchy. You are bluesy
Alaina: pitchy
Alexandrea: made a safe and boring choice; one of my fav top 20 ever
Kady: Interesting song choice ; never got the note

Paula
Carly: you’re an amazing singer; glad you are healthy
Syesha: power--great; off pitch on the soft notes
Brooke: great song choice
Ramiele: you are also one to beat
Kristy Lee: you’re back; good song choice
Amanda: you are an amazing artist; not the right song
Alaina: good job
Alexandrea important and relevant in competition
Kady: define yourself as the artist you are
Asai’h: it was great

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38. "Top 10 guys pimpage"

LAST EDITED ON 03-04-08 AT 07:17 PM (EST)
Hands down top pimpage to David A on “Imagine”.
Simon's comments:
Three guys got the “no charisma” snark (Luke, Robbie); two got the “horrible” critique (Jason Y , Jason C); and 4 got pimped (David A, David H, Danny, Chikeze). The other two were so so (David C and Michael J).

The pimped:

David A: very , very risky to do a Lennon song, particularly that one, but it worked. Right now you are the one to beat and there are 19 miserable contestants sitting here tonight after that trust me.
David H: this may surprise , imo you that was the best vocal of the night so far I like the fact that when you are given some criticism you aren’t sulking; you have risen to the challenge. I wasn’t a fan but I am now a fan.
Danny: last week was just a disaster; you were over concentrating on it; you stand out in the crowd and look terrific on camera.
Chikeze: got to tell you-- you look better ,sounded better, very clever choice of song, tons better than last week. You must have seen yourself last week, the horror show that was you . (Simon and Chikeze discuss last week; Chikeze is fresh to him and Simon says: “just when I am beginning to like you, you become obnoxious; your mother is horrified.”

The so-so’s

David C It was solid and believable. That film didn't help you. It was boring, that is partly your problem. You don't have a lot of charisma, which is fine. David smart mouths off to Simon about winning him over versus America. It doesn’t go well.
Michael J: it was ok; it was by far your weakest performance of the whole competition; very weak choice of song for you .

The No Charisma’s

Robbie C (BOOTED): it was solid; the film (video package) didn’t help you; it was boring and that is partly your problem. You don’t have a lot of charisma. We get an eye roll discussion with Simon and Robbie over charisma.
Luke M: (sang Killer Queen) a mistake; you will always be judged with the original the singer of that song who had charisma and personality -- you didn’t ; you suffered by comparison; it was a bit theatrical and verging on whiney.

The Horrible/Horrifics:

Jason C: the song was horrible; it was too schmaltzy; didn’t suit your voice; randy is absolutely right your vocals were very weak on; that it didn’t go together this week your song , you , the guitar ; this week it was all out of sorts. You actually look so very uncomfortable; you chose an average schmaltzy type of song ; you didn’t do yourself any favors tonight with all the song choices available to you from this decade.
Jason Y (BOOTED): simple truth is last week was boring --this week was awkward and ordinary; horrific, horrific ending. The ending was like you were drunk at party; ghastly performance, corny, you are a quite good singer that can't perform well.

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39. "Top 8 guys and girls pimpage"

Singing order:
1. Asia’h --booted--
2. Kady --booted--
3. Amanda
4. Carly
5. Kristy Lee --implied bottom 3 at risk--
6. Ramiele
7. Brooke
8. Syesha **pimp spot**

1. Luke --booted--
2. David A
3. Danny N --booted--
4. David H
5. Michael J
6. David C
7. Jason C
8. Chikeze **pimp spot** and --implied bottom 3 at risk--

Note this week that the boots came from early-placed performers--1 & 2 for the girls and 1 & 3 for the guys.

IMO this week Amanda O, David C, and Jason C distinguished themselves (a self -pimp? lol) by their performances and song selections, with David C’s repackaging of "Hello" into a rock ballad and Jason C’s selection and performance of “Hallelujah”, and Amanda's performance of a Joan Jett song.

Pimp spot recap:
Top 24: Guys: Michael J Girls: Carly S
Top 20: Guys: David A Girls: Asai'h E
Top 16: Guys: Chikeze Girls: Syesha
Of the 6 people who had pimp spots in the top 24 to top 12 portion of the show, 5 made it to the top 12--all three pimped guys and 2 of the 3 pimped girls. Asia’h’s going first and singing IWTDWS was the kiss of death (others who sang it on AI were booted that week) as she (imo) vote split with others who seemed similar to her.

This week ... will we get into repeat pimping yet … or will we see new people get pimped? Of the new people to get pimped, I think David C, Brooke, and Jason C are the most likely.

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42. "Top 12 Singing order"

LAST EDITED ON 03-14-08 AT 09:56 AM (EST)
Top 12 singing order :
1. Syesha --bottom 3; was the "safe" one in the bottom 3
2. Chikeze
3. Ramiele
4. Jason C
5. Carly S
6. David Cook
7. Brooke
8. David H --booted--
9. Amanda
10. Michael J
11. Kristy --bottom 2--
12. David A **pimp spot** (Again already? He had the pimp spot just TWO WEEKS AGO. Geesh!)*
The top performances this week were Chikeze, David C, Carly, Brooke,and Amanda.
David A, David H and Kristy were just bad, with Kristy reaching a new low for AI and David's forgetting his lyrics would have booted anyone else in Hollywood week, not a top 12 performance whatsoever. David H was just outclassed by everyone else but the other two bad performers.
Syesha, Ramiele: forgettable
Jason C, Michael: panned but I liked them. ;)

Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp)*

* I looked at last year's pimp thread and saw that Melinda was pimped twice in three weeks early in the show as well. She was pimped on Top 8 girls night and again two weeks later at the Top 11. Melinda came in 3rd (and she is very talented).
ETA: results from Wednesday night; Syesha, Kristy Lee, David H bottom 3; Syesha-safe; David H-boot; Kristy Lee--the bottom 2 "at risk" along with David H--will her fan base rally and save her from being booted next week? Does the Larry/Todd J theory still work?

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43. "RE: Top 12 Singing order"

my question then z is do you recall if Melinda was really good in those 2 close pimp spots or subpar for her...bc I thought they try to at least give the pimp spot to a chosen one who did the best or very well in rehearsal...why not Carly then? There is no way in heck that David A did best in rehearsal and then came out with that crap....If anyone should have gotten the pimp spot last nite based on how well they did presumably in rehearsal...it shd have been Chikezie
Or doesn't it matter anymore and Carly Michael and David A will get all the pimp spots?

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44. "RE: Top 12 Singing order"

I looked back at last year's threads and Melinda was considered the best performer both nights she had the pimp spot.
I agree, no way was David A stunning anyone at rehearsal and then turning in that bumbling performance last night. They should have been kind enough to give David C the pimp spot because Chikeze just had the pimp spot last week. Certainly they could not have thought he would be at risk yet? Their overpimping of him will pay dividends throughout the season.
As for who gets the next few spots, looking back at last year's pimping top 12--top 7:
12 Jordin
11 Melinda
10 Chris R
9 Lakisha
8 Sanjaya
7 Blake
After that, believe it or not, we had singing last: Jordin then Melinda, and then Jordin, and Melinda, and then Jordin.
So, if AI is following a similar recipe, I look for Carly S to get pimped next week.
That leaves only 4 spots before they would repeat pimp David A. IMO it depends when the Idol Gives Back show is and I don't have a handle on their calendar yet.
Who gets the other 4 slots? David C and Brooke for sure. Not only was Simon really pimping them last night, Randy mentioned these names in his top contestants list in an interview in the past week.
The other two slots would be 2 of these 3 imo: Amanda, Jason C, and Michael J.
Contestants that I doubt will be pimped (or pimped again):
Chikeze and Syesha (pimp spots pre-top 12) and
Ramiele, David H, & Kristy (never will get the pimp spot?).

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45. "RE: Top 12 Singing order"

I remember Melinda being good with her early pimp spots.
I can't remember anyone tanking a pimp spot nearly as bad as David A did last night.
Usually even if it isn't the best of the night it is someone that had more than a meh lyrics forgetting type of performance.
Maybe they thought Boy Wonder could pull it out in the end even if the rehearsal wasn't that great. TMZ.com's spy gave the last two performances in order and mentioned Kristy Lee's performance might kill the remaining living Beatles, but no discussion of how David A. did other than he went last.

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46. "RE: Top 12 Singing order"

Idols gives back is April 9th which wd be:
March 18 Final 11
March 25 Final 10
April 1 Final 9
April 8 Final 8
So do we have 2 boots on April 16 8 and 7 like last year....will they be as sad as last year and pretend the annointed one David A is in danger of leaving...but no I'm wrong Jordin wasn't "supposed" to win last year...I forgot

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47. "RE: Top 12 Singing order"

LOL, Emydi!
I forgot about the double boot. I'll have clearer thoughts about this year's pimpage once we know when the guest mentors are going to be there.
The rumor is next week's theme is the current top 100 on itunes.
I'll guess that there is no mentor next week because if there were, wouldn't Ryan already be telling us about their appearance?

So that leaves perhaps 2 guest mentors, one each of the two weeks before IGB and then the other 2 sometime after IGB.
Mariah's new album, E=MC squared is to be released April 15.
Unsure whether she mentors on IGB week or the next, two-boot week.

Here's what Wiki says: "Promotion will start in April where Carey will be appearing on The Friday Night Project<14>, The Oprah Winfrey Show to be aired April 14, American Idol's "Idol Gives Back" scheduled to air April 9, where she will also be mentoring the contestants in addition to a live performance which will air April 16."

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41. "Top 12 --Simon's comments"

This is a discussion of just a portion of Simon's comments from last night.
Did anyone notice how much Simon kept talking about earlier performances last night?
What was that all about?
Is it because a lot of people just start watching when it gets to the Top 12 and their Chosen and Pimped One didn't deliver...and they knew from the rehearsal that it was going to blow?

And how interesting that for the comparison to previous weeks' performances that we get a balanced number in each direction:
5 Positives: Syesha, Chikeze, Carly, David C, Brooke
5 Negatives: Ramiele, Jason C, Amanda, Michael, David A
2 None: David H, Kristy L

Simon:
Syesha (Positive) -- better than you were last week
Chikeze (Positive) -- unlike the first singer you have changed within a week
Ramiele (Negative) -- no real mention except "you are better than that"
Jason C (Negative) -- last week it was the song that made it special (what a SLAM)...not as good as last week
Carly S (Positive) -- week after week you didn't chose the right song; this was a good song for you
David C (Positive) -- I thought it was brilliant for two weeks now
Brooke (Positive) -- brilliant choice of song and believable three weeks running
David H (None) -- no mention of last week; Ryan mentions that David has had a "stressful week"
Amanda (Negative) -- didn't think it was as good as last week
Michael (Negative) -- we haven't heard what you are capable of doing
Kristy (None) -- no mention of previous performances; Ryan brings up Simon's pervious advice of needing to be country
David A (Negative) -- your weakest so far

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48. "iTunes Top 20"

I thought it would be interesting to track how the idols are selling and see how that affects their pimpage. From rickey.org http://www.rickey.org/?p=7353,
here are the top 20 selling songs for last week:
1. David Archuleta — Imagine
2. David Cook — Hello
3. Jason Castro — Hallelujah
4. Brooke White — Let It Be
5. David Cook — Eleanor Rigby
6. Brooke White — Love is a Battlefield
7. David Archuleta — Another Day in Paradise
8. Carly Smithson — Come Together
9. Jason Castro — Daydream
10. Jason Castro — If I Fell
11. Brooke White — You’re So Vain
12. Chikezie — She’s A Woman
13. Michael Johns — Across The Universe
14. David Archuleta — Shop Around
15. Carly Smithson — I Drove All Night
16. Jason Castro — I Just Want To Be Your Everything
17. David Archuleta — We Can Work It Out
18. Danny Noriega — Tainted Love
19. David Cook — Happy Together
20. David Hernandez — Papa Was a Rolling Stone
David Cook is a dark horse - he has two songs in the top 5. Jason has three songs in the top 10, Brooke has 3 songs in the top 11, and David Archuleta has the top selling song still.
I would expect the AI producers to look closely at how these numbers grow and fall so they don't get burned again (Taylor, Katherine etc.)

Springtime frolic by Tribe

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49. "RE: iTunes Top 20"

LAST EDITED ON 03-19-08 AT 04:39 PM (EST)
Nice data, CTGirl!
I read on MJ's BB that it depends how you sort-- you can look for just the AI studio recordings and sort by popularity--so here is the list from today, before this week's studio recordings are made available:
1. Let It Be--Brooke W
2. Eleanor Rigby--David C
3. Come Together--Carly S
4. If I Fell-Jason C
5. She's A Woman--Chikeze
6. Across The Universe--Michael J
7. We Can Work It Out--David A
8. You Can't Do That--Amanda O
9. In My Life--Ramiele M
10. Eight Days A Week Kristy LC
11. I Saw Her Standing There--David H
12. Got To Get You Into My Life--Syesha
When I sorted for just "American Idol" I got this list today (removing anyone who is not a contestant this year)--and it gives an idea of how the studio recordings are doing compared to the previous weeks' songs:
1. Imagine--David A
2. Let It Be--Brooke
3. Hallelujah--Jason C
4. Eleanor Rigby--David C
5. Hello--David C
6. Love Is A Battlefield--Brooke
7. Come Together--Carly
8. Another Day in Paradise--David A
9. She's A Woman-Chikeze
10. Across the Universe--Michael J
11. Daydream--Jason C
12. You're So Vain--Brooke
13. We Can Work It Out--David A
14. Shop Around --David A
15. I Drove All Night--Carly
16. Happy Togther-- David C
17. I Just Want To Be Your Everything--Jason C
18. All Right Now --David C
19. Tainted Love--Danny N
20. Crazy On You--Carly
21. Don't You Forget About Me--Michael J
22. Papa Was A Rolling Stone--David H
23. Happy Together-- Brooke
24. You Can't Do That--Amanda
25. I Hate Myself For Loving You--Amanda

ETA: There are more after the 25th one...but too many to keep typing them out.

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50. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 03-24-08 AT 11:12 AM (EST)
Top 11 singing order :
1. Amanda--booted--
2. Kristy --bottom two--
3. David A
4. Michael J
5. Brooke
6. David C
7. Carly --"surprising" bottom 3--
8. Jason C
9. Syesha
10. Chikeze
11. Ramiele **pimp spot**
I was surprised to see Ramiele in the pimp spot. It was not a particularly uplifting or outstanding performance. Was it to help get her on the tour?
David A got a tounge bath from the judges for turning a Beatles song into an everyday ballad. Blah. Syesha got a weak pimp from Simon which basically amounted to her not screwing it up.
Simon had problems with everyone else. I had problems with the whole night. What a come down from the week before!
Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp)*
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele

David C should be up for a pimp spot soon. Or possibly Brooke or Jason C. Still haven't figured out the producers' plan for the seaon unless it is all about David A but I just don't except that yet.

ETA: Updated the singing order with the results info from the top 11 boot. So, now we know that the pimp spot apparently helped Ramiele get on the tour. Everyone who has had the pimp spot this year made the tour, except for Asia'h...and we have the potential wild card opportunity for her to still get on the tour, but right now the buzz is with the last three booted off, Danny, David H and Amanda.

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51. "Double boot impact"

LAST EDITED ON 03-31-08 AT 02:13 PM (EST)
Been thinking about the likely double boot that we'll get after the Idol Gives Back week.
IIRC, we had four hours to vote on IGB week last year (and for plenty of text vote revenue to be racked up by sponsor AT&T) and then we got a --sorta--bottom 3 reveal on the results show.
The results show started out with Ryan telling us the result would be **shocking**.
Ryan (at the producers' behest, of course) did the "you are safe" announcements one at a time, stringing them out throughout the program. Melinda, then Blake were the first two to be told they were "safe". Then Phil.
It "appeared" that Lakisha, Chris R, and Jordin were the bottom 3 of the top 6. Then Lakisha was safe.
Now the drama was built between Chris R and Jordin. Chris R is told he is safe. Jordin looks tearful and then Ryan tells her she, too, is safe. That was his **shocker**.

Then we learned that the votes from IGB week would be combined with the next week and the lowest two from the combined total would get booted. It was a major pimp move for Jordin and yet it failed to save Chris for the F4.
How will AI use the IGB situation this year? Will they do the non elimination that week and then two the following week? I am thinking they will.
And, given the pimping for David A so far, it would seem strange for them to suggest he is at risk that week. So who gets the mock "boot" ala Jordin last year? Who gets knocked down from the combined vote process the next week?
AI will be down to the top 8 the week of IGB. And the two boots the next week will leave them with a top 6.
Given the depth of talent (when they are being talented, that is) making the top 6 is a good milestone for this competition.
So far it seems like David A, David C, Carly, Jason C, Brooke, and Michael. Simon's comments and the other judges' comments last night to Michael make him shakey for the top 6 as of this week. He is better than that, but that's how it seems right now. I just hope he is not bottom 3 fodder for the show before then.
Schedule --how it looks so far:
(for a reminder top 24--60's week; top 20 -- 70's week; top 16--80's week; no letting them sing the material that best defines them)
Top 12 Mar 12 Beatles round 1 -- David H eliminated
Top 11 Mar 19 Beatles round 2 -- Amanda eliminated (sang first)
Top 10 Mar 26 Songs from the year you were born -- (Chikeze eliminated)
Top 9 Apr 2 Dolly Parton Mentor --
Top 8 Apr 9 Idol gives back...Inspirational songs? No boots this week? Mentor? 4 hour voting again to get more text $$ spent? Results show makes 2 or 3 look at risk?
Top 7 Apr 16 Mariah Carey Mentor -- 2 boots this week? (making up for no boot on Idol Gives Back week)
Top 6 Apr 23 Mentor? Neil Diamond or Andrew Lloyd Weber
Top 5 Apr 30 Mentor? Neil Diamond or Andrew Lloyd Weber
Top 4 May 6 Mentor? Each contestant sings 2 songs
Top 3 May 13 Each contestant sings 3 songs: their choice, judges' choice, and one producer's choice
Top 2 May 20 Each contestant sings 3 songs: one "new" AI song written for the show--usually a ballad/ coronation type of song; one repeat from earlier in the season, and one of their choosing.

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52. "RE: Double boot impact"

I thought this year they are doing the Idol Gives back as a separate performance so they can have both it and an elimination that week?
http://www.americanidol.com/idolgivesback/ I may be mistaken about why it is on Wednesday rather than on Tuesday like it was last year.

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53. "RE: Double boot impact"

LAST EDITED ON 03-19-08 AT 04:47 PM (EST)
IIRC, they have the performances of "Inspirational Songs" on Tuesday and then the IGB on Wednesday, crammed with celebs and interpersed with that... they do the "who is safe" routine. Then Ryan told us everyone was safe because it wasn't right to boot someone that week.

Looked it up: last year there were just 6 performers and they had a one hour show on Tuesday with some warm up footage about conditions in Africa, where IGB money will go, etc.
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID44/2310.shtml
Wednesday night was the celeb packed extravaganza for IGB with the results bs sprinkled in.

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54. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-03-08 AT 11:39 AM (EST)
Recapping the "Bottom 3 and Bottom 2" threats to leave...and whether it worked to make the person safe the next week--looking at those who made the final Top 12:
Top 12 Girls: First boot: Kristy stood by Amy Davis as Ryan intoned the results... and Amy was booted; Kristy was an implied at risk candidate that week. She was not booted at the Top 10 Girls week the next week, either.
Top 12 Girls: Second boot: Amanda stood by Joanne as Ryan intoned the results...and Joanne was booted; Amanda was an implied at risk candidate that week. Amanda was not booted the next week at the top 10 Girls week, either.
Top 12 Guys: One of the two boots: Chikeze stood by Colton as Ryan intoned the results...and Colton was booted; Chikeze was an implied at risk candidate that week. Chikeze was not booted the next week at the top 10 Guys week, either.
Top 12 Guys: Other boot note: unlike with the Top 12 Girls, Ryan announced Garrett's boot without mentioning any other guy as an at risk.
Top 10 Girls: One of the two boots: Amanda stood with Alexandrea as Ryan told us Alexandrea was booted; Amanda was an implied at risk candidate that week. Amanda was not booted the next week at the top 8 Girls week, either.
Top 8 Girls: Implied bottom 3--Kristy Lee: still survived the top 12 week boot but was in the bottom 2 top 12 week week. Amanda was not booted in Top 12 week. Kristy was not booted in top 12 week, either.
Top 8 Boys: Implied bottom 3--Chikeze: went on to survive the top 12 week boot--was not at risk even though Ryan called him to center stage to tease him and rub his head. Chikeze was not booted in top 12 week, either.
Top 12: Bottom 2-- Kristy Lee: went on to survive the top 11 week boot but was in the bottom 2 again top 11 week. Kristy was not booted Top 11 week, either.
Top 12: Bottom 3--Syesha: went on to survive the top 11 week boot and was not in the bottom 2 or 3 top 11 week. So Syesha was not booted Top 11 week, either.
Top 11: Bottom 2--Kristy Lee: will she survive Top 10 week? She said she would "blow Simon's socks off".
Top 11: Bottom 3--Carly: was Carly really bottom 3 or was that to shake up her fan base to not take her for granted?
AI did this bottom 3 thing even to Jordin in Season 6 with the fake "who is safe/who is not safe" the week of Idol Gives Back and left Jordin as the last one to get her results (the other 5 of the top 6 had been told they were "safe" already). The manuever worked, Jordin's fan base grew after that and propelled her to the winner of AI 6.

So, will Kristy Lee's fan base keep her safe again?
It looks like a pattern is forming and Chikeze or Syesha are destined to return to the bottom 3/get booted. If the pattern holds then Kristy Lee is safe again this week. Gah!
That would make her be like Haley Scarnato. How could we not see this when putting together PTTE?
If the pattern holds Carly should be safe this week as well.
And in hindsight we should have seen Amanda's boot coming...since she had been held out as at risk in earlier weeks...
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ETA: Kristy was safe top 10 week.
Top 10: Bottom 3: Jason C --the "shocker" bottom 3 but safe. Jason's first trip to the B3.
Top 10: Bottom 2: Syesha-- first trip to the bottom 3 was top 12 week...so no surprise she makes a repeat trip closer to the bottom this week. She's on tap for the boot now but as always, performance dependent.
Recapping the contestants who remain who have been in bottom 3:
Kristy (bottom 2), Syesha (bottom 2), Carly and Jason (both only bottom 3).
ETA 4/3/08: Top 9: Bottom 3: Brooke, the "shocker" bottom 3 but safe. Brooke's first trip to the B3.
Top 9: Bottom 2: Kristy-- not only was she the implied at risk candidate twice in the earlier rounds, she was bottom 2 at top 12 and top 11, only to survive long enough to be safe the week she could sing a song from the year she was born. In country week, her own genre, she drops back into the bottom 2. Haley S. went out at 8th last year. Is Kristy this year's Haley?
Note that Syesha and Jason were both safe this week after appearing in the bottom 2 and 3 last week.
I noticed last night that Kristy has adopted some of the moves of the lead singer from Sugarland, Jennifer Nettles. Perhaps she fancies herself as another Jennifer? In any event, she is lasting long enough to likely get a shot at a second album after AI.

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55. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 03-27-08 AT 12:01 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 03-26-08 AT 01:45 PM (EST)
Top 10 singing order, theme was songs from the year you were born:
1. Ramiele Malubay - 1987’s “Alone” by Heart
2. --bottom 3 "suprise but safe"-- Jason Castro - 1987’s “Fragile” by Sting
3. --bottom 2 but squeaked through-- Syesha Mercado - 1987’s “If I Were Your Woman” by Stephanie Mills
4. --boot-- Chikezie - 1985’s “If Only For One Night” by Luther Vandross
5. Brooke White - 1983’s “Every Breath You Take” by The Police
6. Michael Johns - 1978’s “We Are the Champions” by Queen
7. Carly Smithson - 1983’s “Total Eclipse of the Heart” by Bonnie Tyler
8. David Archuleta - 90‘s“You’re the Voice” by D Foster with Jeff Pescetto
9. Kristy Lee Cook - 1984’s “God Bless the USA” by Lee Greenwood
10. **pimp spot** David Cook - 1983’s “Billie Jean” by Michael Jackson

David C was the top performer of the night, & Michael J got a boost in peoples' estimations, too.
Kristy played the patriotic song card. David A chose a preachy song unknown to most in the US.
Ramiele chose Carrie U's memorable performance song (always a BAD idea). Chikeze sang a ballad after two weeks of energetic performances and praise. Didn't work for most of the judges.
Carly got panned as did Jason C. Brooke rebounded from her doot-n-doo of last week. Syesha showed she was a diva with nuance but it is not the season of the female diva.

Once again Simon was positive pimping/neutral to half of the contestants and negative/ depimping to the other half:
Pimped: David C (pimp spot, too), Michael (star potential), Syesha (weak pimp), Kristy (song choice pimp)
Neutral: Brooke
Thumbs down: Ramiele. Carly, David A
Depimped: Chikeze, Jason C

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Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp)*
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele
Top 10 (Songs from the year you were born): David C

Next to be pimped: Brooke...Jason C...Michael...Carly ?
Probably not: Chikeze, Syesha, Kristy (please, no!)

ETA: updated with the results from last night and, as I predicted on the East Coast Top 10 Performance thread, the bottom three and boot came from the first four of the singing order. Ramiele escaped the dreaded "singing first could mean the last time you compete" spot. Wonder who sings first next week?

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56. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-02-08 AT 09:34 AM (EST)
Looking at who has sung first:
Top 24: Kristy Lee ... David H (gone)
Top 20: Carly ... Michael
Top 16: Asia'h (gone) ... Luke (gone)
Top 12: Syesha
Top 11: Amanda (gone)
Top 10: Ramiele
Top 9: Brooke

Never has sung first:
--David A (and pimp spotted twice)
--David C (pimp spot top 10 week)
--Jason (never first and never the pimp spot)

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57. "How to mess with the contestants' thinking"

Interesting article by Carmen:
http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695265205,00.html
She details how besides the AI judges, the support staff and crew can mess with the contestants' thinking. So, another manipulative tactic perhaps...we knew the judges do it, she talks about the others who did it as well.
Here's her anecdote 2/3 of the way through the article:

"In addition to dealing with the judges' comments and watching other contestants succeed, the thing that probably psyched me out the most was dealing with comments from people backstage.
The week I sang Blondie's "Call Me" during dress rehearsal, the judges (who are there taking notes about what to say during the live show) gave me weird looks.
Byrd, the show's singing coach, said, "Carmen, you need to go for a walk to calm down."
I didn't know I was uptight. A member of the crew took my arm and walked me outside, saying something about "relaxing" and "not worrying" if my song didn't sound good. I was completely floored. I never thought it sounded bad.
On Wednesday night, Byrd came up to me again and said, "Your performance last night sounded so out of tune, I wanted to get up and turn off my TV."
Again, I was completely floored. Later that night, my Utah vocal coach, Dean Kaelin, called to see how I was doing. I told him about what Byrd had said. He was as shocked as I was.
"Carmen, I just had a friend of mine who's also a vocal coach call me to say he thought your performance was pitch-perfect," Kaelin said. "We both agreed it was one of your best so far!"
I was really confused. I wanted to believe Kaelin but couldn't understand why Byrd would tell me the opposite. It definitely messed with my mind. I ended up performing poorly the next week as a result of negative thinking."

She goes on to tell the contestants to remain "mentally strong". Good advice.

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58. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-03-08 AT 12:04 PM (EST)

Top 9 singing order:
1. --bottom 3 but "safe" -- Brooke White - Jolene
2. David Cook - Little Sparrow
3. **booted** Ramiele Malubray - Do I Ever Cross Your Mind
4. Jason Castro - Travelin’ Thru
5. Carly Smithson - Here You Come Again
6. David Archuleta - Appalachian Memories
7. --bottom 2-- Kristy Lee Cook - Coat of Many Colors
8. Syesha Mercado - I Will Always Love You
9. Michael Johns - It’s All Wrong, But It’s All Right

Michael getting a lot of praise for his bluesy/soul rendition of "It's All Wrong, But It's all right and was rightly pimped. He showed his versatility last night. Jason got panned by Simon; Carly criticized for her style of clothes; David A got another tounge bath; the judges pimped David Cook, too, and were neutralish to Brooke, Kristy and Syesha. Rami got the cruise ship critique. Will her singing early in the show and the judges' comments be enough to help her off the show?

Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp--in two weeks no less!)
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele
Top 10 (Songs from the year you were born): David C
Top 9: (Dolly Parton songs/Dolly mentor): Michael (repeat pimp--6 weeks since last pimp)

Next to be pimped--top 8: Brooke...Jason C....Carly...except next week is Idol Gives Back so I would not be at all surprised to see David A get ANOTHER pimp spot. Brooke sang first this week so perhaps she is on deck to have the pimp spot next week. If Carly winds back up in the bottom 3 they may try to boost her up with the pimp spot next week. Jason's treatment by the judges has slipped--Simon in particular, so it is looking doubtful that he ever gets the pimp spot.
Probably not to be pimped in the top 12: Syesha (was pimped top 16 week), Kristy (please, no!).
ETA: starting to wonder if Jason is this year's "Phil". Fan support but never the pimp spot in the top 12.
ETA 4/3/08--results from Boot night. Ramiele sang third, and Brooke sang first so the early place in singing order correlation to the bottom 3 and/ot boot is holding again this season. Did anyone notice that Ryan did not put the idols into three groups of three as he has in previous seasons?
OTOH, Syesha likely benefitted from her next to the last place. Interesting that Kristy, singing on the night of her genre, can only survive in the bottom 2 place. She worked it, though, with her note that said "Kristy's seat". Heh. She didn't seem to have a note last week. Any bets that she'll sing Amazing Grace next week? Brooke's fans are probably rocked back enough over Brooke making the bottom 3 to keep Brooke out of it next week, especially if the theme is inspirational songs again.

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59. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I would like to see Kristy get the "Pimp" spot next week, I think it is really unfair how they pick the "Pimp" spot. Of the remaining contestants only three have not had the "Pimp" spot 1)Brooke, 2)Jason and 3)Kristy. I would like to see Kristy get the "Pimp" spot next week, I think she is a really good singer and should be given "Pimpage".

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60. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I don't think Kristy has shown the same caliber of talent as several others on the show. If they put her in the pimp spot next week it is because imo they are trying to get her to the top 6.
Here's what EW's columnist had to say about her:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20007164_20171835_20187602,00.html

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61. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Another type of anti-pimpage--this is from EW's Popwatch:
http://tinyurl.com/2xn5hg
Much longer article but here is the key anti-pimp part:

"But that, dear PopWatchers, was not the most obnoxious producer snafu of the show. Not even close. Now, while my opinion of Ramiele may not come close to Slezak's feelings of rage towards her, I've never been much of a fan. But that didn't stop my rage at how blatantly the producers stacked the deck to get her into the bottom three.
First, if you noticed, she got no lighting-package love. And after I caught Nigel doing a silly hoe-down move as she sang (out of fun or mockery, I couldn't tell), I realized he directed it towards Carly Smithson and Jason Castro, standing in the wings. Huh. Not so normal to see contestants out on the floor during another's performance.
Nor is it to see a stagehand walk said contestants out into the audience during said performance to position them right behind the judges for the ad break shot. They both looked all kinds of uncomfortable as they upstaged Ramiele, and indeed I can think of no reason to do this other than guaranteeing that a good half of the eyes in the room weren't watching the woman on stage, thereby undercutting that ephemeral and ever-important "connection with the audience." And it worked; I can't even remember what Ramiele was wearing, let alone singing."

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62. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Looking at singing order and the bottom 3 impact:
Booted:
12th: sang 8th/12 -- David H; stripper news impact?
11th: sang 1rst/11 --Amanda
10th: sang 4th/10 -- Chikeze
9th: sang 3rd/9 -- Ramiele

Bottom 2:
12th: sang 11th/12-- Kristy
11th: sang 2nd/11 -- Kristy
10th: sang 3rd/10 -- Syesha
9th: sang 7th/9 -- Kristy

Bottom 3:
12th: sang 1rst/12 --Syesha
11th: sang 7th/11 -- Carly
10th: sang 2nd/10 -- Jason
9th: sang 1rst/9 --Brooke
7 of the 12 in the bottom 3 so far have sung first, second, or third in the show.
8 of the 12 in the bottom 3 so far (2/3) have sung first, second, third , or fourth.

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63. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Last night the AI judges and Ryan were on Larry King.
Overall they said they pimped the two Davids, said nice things about Michael, and depimped Jason C big time. When I get a moment later I'll summarize more.

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67. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I was curious about the interview so I went looking. Only the first 15 minutes are available on video when they are talking about Idol Gives Back (Randy played bass for Mariah and Simon didn't know who Heart was!)
I did find the transcript of the entire show: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/07/lkl.01.html. In addition they said that Carly has an amazing voice but she doesn't know who she is as a singer. They like Brooke as a folk singer, thinks Syesha is a singer-actress and Simon depimped KKKristy as being boring, but Randy kept on saying that he'd sign her to a recording contract. They were shocked that Jason was winning the call-in to CNN to vote for who they want to win AI contest.

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69. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Thanks for the link!

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64. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I think Kristy has earned herself a pimp spot for next week. She and Jason are the only ones to not get one, and she DESERVES it!!!

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65. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-15-08 AT 06:02 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-08 AT 01:50 PM (EST)
Top 8 singing order:
1.**booted** (sob!) Michael--Dream On (Aerosmith)
2. --bottom 3--Syesha--I Believe (Fantasia)
3. Jason C--Somewhere Over The Rainbow (Brudda Iz version with uke)
4. Kristy--Anyways (Martina McBride)
5. David C--Innocent (Our Lady Peace)
6. --bottom 3--Carly--The Show Must Go On (Queen)
7. David A--Angels (Robbie Williams)
8. **pimp spot** Brooke--You've Got A Friend (James Taylor/Carly Simon)
Pimped and/or overpimped: David A, Jason, Kristy Lee, Brooke
Depimped or antipimped: David C, Michael, Carly, Syesha
Once again David A got props from the judges although Simon tried to nitpick. Randy called it his hottest moment of the whole season. (*spare me*) Jason C got the superlative "molten hot", I think Randy's script included "blazing" and "another dog in the hunt". Brooke got the pimp spot but was told she was "pleasant" by Simon. KLC got overpraised for an average delivery; comments included that she looked like a star (Carly, are you taking notes?) and praise for her smart song choice (Carly are you taking notes?).
Michael was told he needed to sing bluesy soul; David C was called pompous (a teensy bit pompous, was it?); Carly was told she was in trouble this week and did an angry performance; Syesha got the Fantasia comparison and no emotional connection dings.
Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp--in two weeks no less!)
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele
Top 10 (Songs from the year you were born): David C
Top 9: (Dolly Parton songs/Dolly mentor): Michael (repeat pimp--6 weeks since last pimp)
Top 8: (Inspirational Songs/IGB week): Brooke

Next to be pimped--top 8: Jason C or Carly...IMO Carly is likely for the Mariah Carey week next week.
Probably not to be pimped in the top 12: Syesha (was pimped top 16 week), Kristy (please, no!).
Still wondering if Jason is this year's "Phil". Fan support but never the pimp spot in the top 12.
ETA 4/15/08: we don't know who was bottom 2 and who was the "safe" bottom 3 because of the cruel way Ryan orchestrated the boot announcement on Thursday night. I'm guessing Syesha was the bottom 2 and Carly was the safe one but then I would not have guessed they would have booted Michael last week, so my tea leaf reading is murky these days.

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66. "Singing order does matter"

Last week Carmen Rasmussen, AI alum, wrote an article about singing order, "Placement is biggest key to success on TV's 'Idol" (April 4, 2008):
http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695267203,00.html
"Take, for example, the order the contestants sing on Tuesday nights. Consistently, every contestant who has gone first on Tuesday has been in the bottom three, with the exception of last week.
Coincidence? I think not.
The person who goes first runs a huge risk of being forgotten. It's hard to be memorable when you have eight others performing after you, learning from the mistakes you may have just made and wanting to show you up. You either have to set the bar extremely high or hope you have a fan base big enough to keep you on the show, even if you do end up in the bottom three."
....she goes on to discuss Brooke, who sang first top 9 week and then says:
"True to pattern, White was in the bottom three, along with Kristy Lee Cook and Ramiele Malubay, who ended up leaving the competition Wednesday night"
Carmen also mentions that we need to watch who stands next to Ryan at the end of the show, that placement near Ryan can help people remember you.

She also says:
"The contestants were also placed in certain positions on the "results couch" Wednesday night. When I was on the show, we had to practice taking our place on the couch during dress rehearsal, making sure we sat by certain people."
But we knew that already, didn't we?

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68. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-09-08 AT 05:36 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-08 AT 05:34 PM (EST)
How has Kristy been "Pimped and/or overpimped" when she has NEVER gotten the "pimp" spot? Kristy DESERVES the "pimp" spot next week!!! She has earned the "pimp" spot next week with her performance this week.

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70. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-10-08 AT 11:34 AM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 04-10-08 AT 11:31 AM (EST)
Pimpage is MORE than just that one pimp spot per week.
It is also that we have her whole back story and heard her sing a lot before the season ever began.
There is benefit to being in the last three or so singers, not just the very last one. She rarely (has she ever?) sings during the first half of the show that I can recall.
Looking at American Idol Gives Back wasn't she was one of the ones getting attention from Ryan during the call ins they aired? Some of the people were in the back and never acknowledged at all, and even of the top 8 they weren't equally featured.
ETA: IMO you should earn the pimp spot based on that weeks performance, not any other week. Anyway I think Kristy is in the second tier of Idols, she certainly gets more than some of the others, but may not be their first choice to win it all. I see it more of a trying to get her close enough to the top they know she'll get record sales from it kind of pimpage.

ETA again, I think the pimpage/non rankings are in part what the judges say. Did they gush over a performance or say bad things about it. I know there is "a matter of taste" but some iffy performances get a lot of praise and some good ones get bashed pretty hard each week.

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72. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

All good points, Snidget. Totally forgot about the "caller" segments with Ryan last night, too.

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73. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

If I remember correctly, the ones in the back were the ones who were eliminated (David H., Ramielle, Amanda and Chickeze).

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75. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I think there were three rows.
I think Jason was in the second row. The eliminated were in the very back.
Was it David C, Carly, Michael and Kristy...must have been one other Brooke maybe?
I think there were 5 in the front row 4 in the second and three in the back. Thinking back I think Chickeze managed to be on the end of the second row, but he only got seen if they panned from that side or something.

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71. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Hi Queene, this pimpage thread records all kinds of pimping, the easiest to see is, of course, the pimp spot.
Ai uses many other types of pimping, including:
-- judges' comments for less than worthy performances there are many examples but Randy calling David A's runs his best all season? Each week he reaches to find a new superlative for David A.
--stool interviews--Syesha gets asked about Ramiele instead of the focus being on Syesha--contrast that to David's stool interview the same night or Jason C's when Ryan showed the postcards that a fan was sending to Jason. (They ALL get stuff from fans) not just Jason).
--video packages--my favorite example is when Kristy Lee got the full vid package of riding her horse through the country side, being a tomboy --and contrast that with Kady Malloy or Alaina's package of not wanting her foods to touch on her plate. AI pulled out ALL the stops for KLC and barely raised a finger for the other. That's Pimping with a capital P!
--singing order--last year was an easy year to see pimpage factors at work when Phil was slated to mostly sing early in the show while Jordin not only mostly got to sing later in the show, she also got the pimp spot three times between top 12 and top 5! That's 3 of 8 opportunities. Phil never got one at all.
--there are lots of other things, like who gets the questions in the q and a portion of the recap show, the recap itself--who gets their positive comments shown again (and KLC will probably get that pimping tonight), who gets the solos when not everyone gets one (some songs everyone does), who gets the extra special lighting or musician attention, who does Ryan give extra attention to after they sing and who does he just say little to and then give their numbers? He is subtly reinforcing the judges' and producers' agendas with his "congratulations" or hugs or antics (running around the stage with Chikeze), who gets mentioned positively in judges' interviews outside of the show, who is mentioned by the show's celeb friends (like Ellen), etc., etc.
Part of the fun for me is watching how they manipulate the show and help create an outcome. They did it with Jordin last year. They tried to do it with Daughtry, but he was landing in the bottom 3 the week of the top 7, they repimped him with the pimp spot the next week and that worked. But it didn't hold and he was gone at top 4.

So imo Kristy was pimped with the judges' comments--Simon telling her she looked like a star and Ryan congratulating her, telling her well done...
But you don't have to agree with me--that's the beauty of this board. And if Kristy gets the pimp spot next week? Well, that fits with Randy's saying he would sign her but not Jason C on the Larry King show on Monday. He, imo, would like to see her last longer on the show.
Here's what USA Today had to say about Kristy:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-04-08-idol-recap_N.htm

" Kristy Lee Cook had no business singing Martina McBride’s Anyway, although it’s a moving power ballad, because anyone who’s heard McBride knows she knocks it out of the park and poor Kristy Lee just doesn’t have the vocal chops to hit it out of the infield. (Fortunately for Kristy Lee, most of the voting audience probably hasn’t heard McBride’s version.)"

In closing, AI is a business. They will pimp who they want to help their business.

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74. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

I forgot one of the big pimpages of the whole show--the coronation song! Like what they did to Blake and wouldn't even let him arrange the song to show his strengths.
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Last year's F2 "must sing" song demonstrates some of the producers' guiding hand in the eventual outcome. Some years the F2 sing different new "must sing" songs, sometimes they sing the same song. Last year they wanted Jordin to win; they had Jordin and Blake sing the same song. Here is a link to an interview with Blake, who was in the top 2 last year, losing to Jordin Sparks.
http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2007/12/21/exclusive-blake-lewis-talks-about-getting-screwed-on-american-idol/
Here's a snippet from the Buzzworthy interview:
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"BW: When you first heard “This Is My Now,” the ballad you had to perform during the finale, did you think you were toast?
BL: Oh, totally. Me and Jordin went in a room with some guy who was producing that song and I was like, what the f— is this? This is a piece of s—. And you’re not going to let me arrange it? OK, cool. Thanks guys. I didn’t want to win American Idol anyway; I wanted to get second. Then we found out we had to learn it in, like, three days or something ridiculous. It was dumb. It was just like, are you kidding me? It was really a piece of crap song. And the guys who wrote it were like, we’re sorry, dude.
BW: It seemed totally unfair…
BL: When I found out they wouldn’t let me change it, I was like, you’re kidding me. I mean, my range is alright but … I don’t do power ballads. And if I do, I write them and tailor them to my voice. But this one, I was just like, ummm… So I totally just, like, brushed it off and picked a key that I shouldn’t have picked. But it didn’t matter. Honestly, I picked Jordin to win during Hollywood Week."
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A couple a years ago MTV ran a series of articles on "What you don't know about American Idol" that were really good. Can't find them just now; search on MTV was unavailable.
Good info--for example, that's where we learned that Simon's vote is 2x the value of Randy's or Pauls's vote in determining the top 24, etc.

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76. "4/15/08 "Pimp" Spot"

Out of the two who have never gotten the "pimp" spot Jason and Kristy who does everyone want to see get the "pimp" spot this week. Based on my previous posts, I believe that Kristy should get it this week.

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77. "RE: 4/15/08 "Pimp" Spot"

Hi Queene...I expect it to be Carly. I'm past wanting someone to get it. ;) AI killed off my wanting to root for someone anymore. Now I just want to figure out their scripts and storylines.
BTW, did you read that David Cook's brother is attending tonight? (The one who is battling cancer). It could get emotional for David tonight.

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78. "Top 7 singing order"

LAST EDITED ON 04-26-08 AT 12:31 PM (EST)
Top 7 singing order:

1. "the safe one who had to choose" David Archuleta - “When You Believe”
2. Carly Smithson - “Without You”
3. --bottom 3-- Syesha Mercado - “Vanishing”
4. --bottom 2-- Brooke White - “Hero”
5. --booted --- Kristy Lee Cook - “Forever”
6. David Cook - “Always Be My Baby”
7. Jason Castro - “I Don’t Wanna Cry”
Pimped and/or overpimped: Haven't watched the show yet but from the ECST I gather that DA and DC got some pimping. Sound like KLC got some positives, too.
Depimped: Syesha, Brooke...that's all I remember. I'll have to catch the performances to get the rest: JC & CS.

From what I read DA got the "one to beat" pimpage; DC got the emotional hook of his ill brother in the audience sitting next to Teri Hatcher; he cries at the end of his performance; judges praise ensues. More later.
Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp--in two weeks no less!)
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele
Top 10 (Songs from the year you were born): David C
Top 9: (Dolly Parton songs/Dolly mentor): Michael (repeat pimp--6 weeks since last pimp)
Top 8: (Inspirational Songs/IGB week): Brooke
Top 7: (Mariah songs/Mariah Carey mentor): Jason C

Next to get the pimp spot-top 6: DA, KLC, or Carly...IMO DA is lined up for his third pimpage of the season. He sang first this week; it's going to be Andrew Lloyd Webber night; he is the chosen one, etc.. It could be Carly since she was the second to sing this week and it would showcase her stage singing skills from her Les Mis tour.
Of course, Queene is desperate for KLC to get the pimp (Hi Queene)--and at this rate, even that could happen. That would mean the show wants her in the top 4 to help her country career.
Hmmm....was her former label connected with Sony/BMG in any way, shape, or form?
ETA: the boot results and of course, KLC can not get pimped in the top 6 because she did not make the top 6. That leaves DA or Carly as guesses but that was wrong--they repimped David Cook at top 6 (because they wanted Carly to go? Singing JCS was enough to reduce her support?).

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79. "RE: Top 7 singing order"

These are my recollections. They're kind of vague because I was doing something else and watching AI at the same time.
My impression of Carly last night was that they've given up on her (and Kristy has taken her place). Simon said that he likes her but she's still not making a connection. (Kristy and Karly are probably going to skrew up my PTTE by switching places!)
Jason wasn't over pimped or depimped; one of the judges said that he'd grown as a performer. I thought Ryan handled the David C. tears with a light touch. There was no beating us over the head with "your brother has cancer and it's tough for you," just a quick cut to his brother in the audience. If you didn't know the backstory you might've missed it.

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80. "RE: Top 7 singing order"

Agreed. I was pleasantly surprised that Ryan so delicately handled DC's tears.

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81. "USA Today article. Singing Order "

Not that fans of the show haven't known this forever, but it is getting some press about singing order and who gets booted
USA Today

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83. "RE: USA Today article. Singing Order "

LAST EDITED ON 04-26-08 AT 06:14 PM (EST)

Glad you caught that article, Snidge.
Keeping a couple of comments from it:
"In 69 finals episodes, 20 singers in the No. 1 spot have been voted off, seven more than would be expected based on statistical probability, says Nick Straguzzi, co-founder of WhatNotToSing.com, which collects and analyzes Idol data. In four out of six weeks this season, the first finalist has been in the bottom three, twice being eliminated. "The No. 1 slot is by far the most dangerous for finalists," Straguzzi says.
Eliminations at the other slots came closer to what could be expected at random, except for lucky 7, a spot from which only one has been bounced. And no one in the 11th or 12th spot in a finals week has been eliminated; only one (Kristy Lee Cook) has been in the bottom three."
and
"Speculation about the danger of the leadoff spot, including fan chatter about a first-performer jinx, grew after the surprise elimination of Michael Johns, 29, who led off two weeks ago. Possible reasons (especially in weeks singers perform once):
•Fewer viewers at the start. Idol's ratings grow throughout each show, with more viewers — and potential voters — watching singers at the end than at the beginning. On April 8, Idol went from 22.8 million viewers in the first half-hour to 26.4 million in the second, a 16% increase."
The article also mentions the "singing-voting gap" (those who sing closer to voting may get more votes) and judges' comments as other factors.
BTW: in the comments section for this article, check out this one:
"brogmusic wrote: 4d 22h ago
I'm not gonna say my real name, but when I was a finalist on idol, we used to call it the "curse of the first." We knew that if we went first, we had a high probability of going home. Especially if the performance wasn't PERFECT. It all started with the first week of the Top 24. The dude who went first, sang well, but was the first impression of the semi-finalists.
BTW, the week I got send home, I went first. My final performance, was imperfect, at best. "
Any guesses as to who 'brogmusic" is? ...
...(Brandon Rodgers)...

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82. "Top 6 Singing Order"

LAST EDITED ON 04-27-08 AT 09:02 PM (EST)
Top 6 Singing Order:
1. --bottom 2-- Syesha Mercado — “One Rock & Roll Too Many” from “Starlight Express”
2. Jason Castro — “Memory” from “Cats”.
3. David Archuleta — “Think of Me” from “Phantom of the Opera”
4. Brooke White — “You Must Love Me” from “Evita”
5. --booted -- Carly Smithson — “Jesus Christ Superstar”
6. --pimp spot-- David Cook — “Music of the Night” from “Phantom of the Opera”

Pimped and/or overpimped: Haven't watched the show yet--so I need help with the pimping. Got some idea from the ECST.
Pimped: Obviously DC got the pimp spot and praise. Brooke mostly gets a pass for starting over...and you know the judges would have slammed someone they wanted off the show for doing what Brooke did. Now we will have many more in seasons to come to do what Brooke has now done twice. Sigh. I agree with Paula, you should not start over. Tough, roll with it.
Syesha got praised and survived singing first. She also got to be "someone else" for the week. Heh.
I understand that Carly got praise but I agree with those who say that Carly was set up/sabotaged/whatever for being told to sing Jesus Christ Superstar. That is a polarizing song. One that was sure to turn off voters.
Here's a snippet about Carly from Dave White's summary for this week's show:
http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail.asp?id=53659&page=3

"Then they kick off Carly. And I know it’s not cool to care. But I do. In this moment I care about the dubious integrity of this ridiculous show, a show I believe intentionally sabotaged its most interesting and talented singer. Week after week she was attacked by judges, forced into a box of come-on-get-happiness that she was too mature to giggle her way through in anything resembling a convincing manner, told that her clothes were all wrong and made to feel psyched out, messed up, and frightening. Her super-inked, tattooed-skull-having husband was kept as far from the camera as possible in early episodes, lest he terrify voters by proxy. But as time went on he got more and more camera time. LOOK, AMERICA! THAT WOMAN CHOSE TO MARRY THIS GUY! HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL ABOUT CARLY?! OOKY, RIGHT?! The message of this elimination is: Be the character we’re trying to create for you or get the fu(k lost."
Obviously Dave was a Carly fan and is upset with the outcome...but they judges DID pick on her more than the others. I read that Carly's hubby was not at performances right after fights (he is a fighter? fight clubber? not sure) so as not to scare people with the aftermath of punches to his face. So, if he was in the audience more recently it could be that he was not fighting recently...and they always show families of the performer....but the rest of it...true, true, true.
Depimped: Simon slammed Jason for Memories with the "longest two minutes of my life and yours" comment.
I'm guessing that DA got pimped. So they wanted Jason or Carly to go but Brooke screwed up her opening and wound up in the bottom 2 instead of Jason. Wonder who was bottom 3? They did not show it. Anyone want to guess that it was Syesha who never has had a big fan base?

BTW, imo, by keeping Jason C in the game, he could siphon votes from David A's fan base...as he is an alternative young guy for whom to vote. Could help David C win this year.

Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp--in two weeks no less!)
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele
Top 10 (Songs from the year you were born): David C
Top 9: (Dolly Parton songs/Dolly mentor): Michael (repeat pimp--6 weeks since last pimp)
Top 8: (Inspirational Songs/IGB week): Brooke
Top 7: (Mariah songs/Mariah Carey mentor): Jason C
Top 6: (Andrew Lloyd Webber songs/ALW mentor): David C (repeat pimp--4 weeks since last pimp spot)
And looking ahead for the last month of the show:
Top 5: Neil Diamond week
Top 4: Each performs two songs this week
Top 3: Each performs three songs--producer's pick; judge's pick; their own pick; plus we get the hometown visit highlights
Top 2: Each performs three songs--one is the coronation song; one new; one reprisal from earlier in the season
David A sang "earlier" in the singing order this week at third so he is set up for a pimp spot for Neil Diamond week. Or Syesha, if they want her to make final 4. They are the two of the 5 who have not been pimped in the last three weeks.
The way things have turned out, both David's could get the multi-pimps from the top 12 on--David A at 12 and 5 and ? and David C at 10, at 6 and ?.
BTW, in the first post of this thread, Snidget pointed out TV Guide's 4 people to watch this season. Only David Cook is left.

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84. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-26-08 AT 12:41 PM (EST)
Looking at who has sung first:
Top 24: Kristy Lee (gone) ... David H (gone)
Top 20: Carly (gone)......... Michael (gone)
Top 16: Asia'h (gone--**booted that week**) ....... Luke (gone--**booted that week**)
Top 12: Syesha
Top 11: Amanda (gone--**booted that week**)
Top 10: Ramiele (gone)
Top 9: Brooke
Top 8: Michael (gone--**booted that week**)
Top 7: David A
Top 6: Syesha (NOTE: second time in top 12 to sing 1rst)

Never has sung first:
--David C (pimp spot top 10 and top 6 weeks)
--Jason (pimp spot top 7 week)

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85. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 04-27-08 AT 09:07 PM (EST)
LAST EDITED ON 04-26-08 AT 01:34 PM (EST)
Looking at singing order and the bottom 3 impact:
Booted:
12th: sang 8th/12 -- David H; stripper news impact?
11th: sang 1rst/11 --Amanda
10th: sang 4th/10 -- Chikeze
9th: sang 3rd/9 -- Ramiele
8th: sang 1rst/8 -- Michael
7th: sang 5th/7 -- Kristy
6th: sang 5th/6 -- Carly

Bottom 2:
12th: sang 11th/12-- Kristy
11th: sang 2nd/11 -- Kristy
10th: sang 3rd/10 -- Syesha
9th: sang 7th/9 -- Kristy
8th: **don't know** --Syesha (sang 2nd) or Carly (sang 6th)
7th: sang 4th/7 -- Brooke
6th: sang 1rst/6 -- Syesha

** we don't know who was bottom 2 because of the way Ryan revealed the results. At bottom 3 with Michael, Carly and Syesha he told Syesha and Carly they were safe; and Michael...going home.

Bottom 3:
12th: sang 1rst/12 --Syesha
11th: sang 7th/11 -- Carly
10th: sang 2nd/10 -- Jason
9th: sang 1rst/9 --Brooke
8th: sang 2nd/8 -- Syesha**
8th: sang 6th/8 -- Carly**
7th: sang 3rd/7 --Syesha
6th: none revealed

** don't know which of the two was the bottom 3 versus bottom 2 because of the way Ryan revealed the results.
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From top 12-top 6 there were 20 opportunities to be the bottom 3, 2 or boot (no bottom 3 in final 6, only bottom 2 was shown). 11 of the 20, or 55%, bottom 3, 2 or boot have sung in the first, second or third in the show.
13 of the 20, or 65%, sang in the first, second, third, or fourth spots.
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Recapping the girls:
KLC was in the bottom 3-- four out of 6 opportunities (went out at top 7).
Syesha has been in the bottom 3-- six of the 7 opportunities between top 12 and top 6.
Carly was in the bottom 3 three times from top 12 to top 6.
Brooke has been in the bottom 3 two times from top 12 to top 6.
Doesn't say much for the girls this season, does it?

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86. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

A review of singing order for the 5 remaining contestants:
Syesha: 1/12, 9/11, 3/10, 8/9, 2/8, 3/7, 1/6
At first I thought Syesha was pingponging from singing early to singing late: 12-early, 11-late, 10-early, 9-late, 8 early...but that changed with their having her sing early for the top 7 and top 6 which made her sing early 3 times in a row.
Having had to sing **first** two times in the top 12 while two of the five remaining singers **have never** sung first and having been in the bottom 3 five out of six times in the top 12- top 7, Syesha needs to either get the pimp spot or near pimp spot to be at all fair at this point. From that standpoint, it looks good for her to make F4 if she can (just) get the pimp spot.

Jason: 4/12, 8/11, 2/10, 4/9, 3/8, 7/7, 2/6.
Jason has sung in the second half of the singers only twice in the 7x in the top 12-top 6. IMO that shows his popularity and staying power, and very good (popular) song choices. BTW, Jason has never had to sing first, though, and one pimp spot and that has helped. I think Jason may have to sing first this coming week--it would be fair--and that could make him an easy B2 candidate this week.

David C: 6/12, 6/11, 10/10, 2/9, 5/8, 6/7, 6/6
If anyone of the five remaining has had preferential singing placement this season, it is David Cook. Only once has he sung early in the show, at top 9. He has never had to sing first. He has sung near-near last, near-last and last the last three weeks. He has gotten the pimp spot twice in the top 12. IMO they want him to win in the battle of the Davids. I think his fan base is certainly big enough at this point to withstand his singing early in the night this next week and get him into the F4.

Brooke: 7/12, 5/11, 5/10, 1/9, 8/8, 4/7, 4/6.
Brooke has gotten to sing mostly in the middle of the group. Her singing first at top 9 was rewarded the next week with a pimp spot--something Syesha did not get. They may have her sing early this coming week and that might keep her out of the F4.

David A: 12/12, 3/11, 8/10, 6/9, 7/8, 1/7, 3/6
David A, repeatedly told he is the "one to beat", has had a mix of early and late singing placements--4/7 times he has sung late. He did sing first once in the top 12. Having sung early the last two weeks he is most likely getting a late placement this coming week and is a lock for the F4.

I'll be surprised if whoever sings Sweet Caroline gets into the bottom 2 this week--it is Neil's most popular song and the Red Sox fans fav.

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87. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 05-01-08 AT 08:46 PM (EST)
Top 5 Singing Order:
1. Jason: "Forever in blue jeans", "September Morn"
2. David C: "I 'm alive", "All I ever need is you"
3. **booted** Brooke: "I'm a believer", "I am I said"
4. David A: "Sweet Caroline", "Coming to America"
5. --?bottom 2?* -- Syesha: "Hello again", Thank the Lord for the nighttime"
* Ryan never said "here are the bottom 2" or anything like that, he just told them one by one if they were safe--Jason, David A, then David C, leaving Syesha and Brooke the last two to be told their fate. There is some speculation that Jason could have been bottom 2 instead of Syesha, but due to Paula's gaffe the night before of judging him on a song he had not yet sung for the live show (!!) and judging him negatively (!!), the producers had Ryan tell Jason he was safe right off the bat to calm the concerns of Jason fans. So, we don't know if Syesha was really F2 but in any regard, I think she has a record for being in the bottom2 or 3 for any AI contestant!
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Pimped and/or overpimped: David A got pimped for a really awful version of Sweet Caroline, thusly showing the show's scripting even more clearly than ever, no way was it "the Bomb!"; got pimped for CTA, too.
DC got pimped for his second song...and Paula said she was looking at the American Idol.
Brooke got the middling comments again.
Syesha got a reverse pimp--she gets the pimp spot, praise, then Simon says she is in trouble (to rally the voters and from Dial Idol, looks like it worked).
Jason got anti-pimped/depimped/treated really badly, especially with the comments given right before he had to sing a second time. The whole show was weird, like the timing was on steriods and then they had extra timem to give the first round of comments. Heh.

Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp--in two weeks no less!)
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele
Top 10 (Songs from the year you were born): David C
Top 9: (Dolly Parton songs/Dolly mentor): Michael (repeat pimp--6 weeks since last pimp)
Top 8: (Inspirational Songs/IGB week): Brooke
Top 7: (Mariah songs/Mariah Carey mentor): Jason C
Top 6: (Andrew Lloyd Webber songs/ALW mentor): David C (repeat pimp--4 weeks since last pimp spot)
Top 5: (Neil Diamond songs, Neil Diamond mentor; two songs each: Syesha
And looking ahead for the last month of the show:
Top 4: Each performs two songs this week--songs that shaped rock and roll theme?
Top 3: Each performs three songs--producer's pick; judge's pick; their own pick; plus we get the hometown visit highlights
Top 2: Each performs three songs--one is the coronation song; one new; one reprisal from earlier in the season
Now each of the top 5 has been pimped I guess it it time for a David A repimp at top 4, then David C at top 3. Or they could reverse it and give DC a repeat pimp at 4 and DA at 3.
Since they each sing twice, it does not make as much of a difference by the F4.

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88. "Top 4 singing order"

LAST EDITED ON 05-08-08 AT 01:03 PM (EST)
Top 4 Singing Order:
1. David C "Hungry Like The Wolf"
2. --bottom 2-- Syesha "Proud Mary"
3. --boot-- Jason "I Shot The Sheriff"
4. David A "Stand By Me"

5. David C "Baba O'Riley"
6. Syesha "A Change Is Gonna Come"
7. Jason "Mr. Tambourine Man"
8. David A "Love Me Tender"

Pimped: David A. Just read the ECST to learn how much his pimping nauseated viewers. Randy, of course delivered the over the top pimping, Paula concurred, and Simon said something like David A crushed the competition.
Pimped: Syesha. Paula gave her a standing O, Ryan helped reinforce her tears, Syesha even did a clever self pimp by repeating the Civil Rights angle for ACIGC's appeal.
Sorta pimped: David C. "David C is back!" "Welcome back, David C".
Depimped/antipimped...totally battered and burned...Jason. The audience was told that Jason clearly was not performing at an F4 level. That he was no Bob Marley. They called out his lyrics gaffaw but not anyone else's. They charred him so badly in their first review that he had a hard time shrugging it off by the time of second song. One nasty comment was when Jason was not even on stage --when Simon told David A that David A could have whistled his first song and been better than Jason. That was extra nasty, extra spiteful AI.
Judges' agendas are more visible to viewers now--with Paula's gaffe last week raising questions in viewers' minds to their treatment of contestants last night.
Note how long Randy let the applause go on for David A. Overt pimping. Note how Ryan reinforces the judges' opinions--negative for Jason and positive for Syesha--more pimping.
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ETA results:
Ryan told us there were 51m votes Tuesday night; interesting, because ratings are falling but voters are getting more rabid.
He also said that three of the contestants were within 1 million votes of one another. He proceeded to tell DA that he was safe, and DA aw-shucked it to the couch. DC was next and then SM and JC were left to dangle until he told SM she was safe. The band couldn't even get Jason's tune started for his singoff and he didn't get a full song shown. Oh well, they are done with him, 19 wants to promote others.

Pimp spot recap:
Top 24 (60's week): Guys: Michael J ... Girls: Carly S
Top 20 (70's week): Guys: David A ... Girls: Asai'h E (booted at top 16)
Top 16 (80's week): Guys: Chikeze ... Girls: Syesha
Top 12 (Beatles week): David A (repeat pimp--in two weeks no less!)
Top 11 (Beatles week): Ramiele
Top 10 (Songs from the year you were born): David C
Top 9: (Dolly Parton songs/Dolly mentor): Michael (repeat pimp--6 weeks since last pimp)
Top 8: (Inspirational Songs/IGB week): Brooke
Top 7: (Mariah songs/Mariah Carey mentor): Jason C
Top 6: (Andrew Lloyd Webber songs/ALW mentor): David C (repeat pimp--4 weeks since last pimp spot)
Top 5: (Neil Diamond songs, Neil Diamond mentor; two songs each: Syesha
Top 4: (Songs that shaped rock 'n roll/no mentor): David A (repeat pimp--8 weeks since last pimp)
And looking ahead for the last weeks of the show:
Top 3: Each performs three songs--producer's pick; judge's pick; their own pick; plus we get the hometown visit highlights
**Guessing that Randy picks for David A, Paula picks for Syesha, and Simon picks for David C.**
Top 2: Each performs three songs--one is the coronation song; one new; one reprisal from earlier in the season
**I look for David C to get repeat pimped at F3.**

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89. "RE: Top 4 singing order"

Nauseating? Really?
*looks at bill for calling in the Crime Scene Clean Up folks to disinfect the thresd*
I have no idea why you would say that?!? {/sarcasm}

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90. "RE: Top 4 singing order"

Additionally, on the order of performance. David Cook was in the traditional spot of doom, but part of that is made up for since he was the only performer to get a solo spot twice (where he performed between commercial breaks and no one else did). Syesha and David A. both performed solo once and in a pair once (David in R1, Syesha in R2), with David's solo being in the pimp spot. Jason did not get a solo bloc either time, forced to perform with Syesha in R2 and David in R1.

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91. "RE: Top 4 singing order"

Very nice observation!

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92. "RE: Top 4 singing order"

Yes, good points. Makes one wonder, doesn't it.
Anyone with a brain (with the exception of those 12-13 y/o's out there who are power voting for Archie) can see that HE is getting double/triple pimpage every.single.show!
No matter what he sings, Randy, especially is all over that kid! Is he Randy's love child? Really! I'm so sick of it, I have to carry a barf bag with me every time the judging goes to Randy's corner!! Is he in cahoots with the kid's parents or what?
We all have ears, and we can see that kid has a certain amount of talent, but there is NO comparison to the grown-up talent and brilliance that David Cook has! It's like comparing Donnie Osmond to Jon Bon Jovi! Really now. Who are you gonna spend $100 to see in concert? Well, for your daughter's 14th birthday, Archie, of course. But for YOU, David Cook. At least that's what I say.
I'm totally disappointed in Randy this year. Paula will always be Paula. Thank GOD for Simon who mostly doesn't waiver. Don't know what he was thinking this week with his 'crushed the competition' comment. So out of line! Whatever.

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93. "RE: Top 4 singing order"

LOL, they are thinking about their paychecks.
Randy gave the same kind of praise to Jordin last year. He made her out to be the best thing since the wheel. He is scripted; imo they all are. Maybe not word for word, but for **message**.
Simon said DA crushed because he had to, imo. He is probably required to support the agenda a certain number of times per season.
Go back and read last year's ECST threads for Randy's comments on Jordin. Some of them are in the pimpage thread from last year, too.
I started to keep track of what the judges were saying, but grew tired of it once Michael was voted off. The DA pimping is so blatant it is laughable.
FOX and 19 share the revenues from the text votes. The want the show to go the way that brings them the highest ratings (so they create controversy like booting Michael) and they encourage the voting (like extra pimping DA).
That's why imo they want a David-David F2. It will bring them the most text votes.

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94. "RE: Top 4 singing order"

P.S. They kinda screwed the pooch when they booted Michael because ratings have been down ever since! Some of their lowest ratings in 5 years.
If they exceed certain ratings levels, then 19 gets a bonus. Fox wants higher ratings, too, because then they can charge higher ad prices for the show. Instead, with declining ratings, they have to give "make goods" to advertisers to make up for the lack of eyeballs delivered.
IMO having DA win hurts AI's credibility, such that it is. We'll see. It's still a force in the market place, and still a ratings giant even though its ratings are down.

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95. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

LAST EDITED ON 05-20-08 AT 07:46 PM (EST)
While I'm thinking of it:
Top 3 singing order:
David A
Syesha
David C --pimp spot--
David A got mixed reviews...Randy pimped and Simon was so-so.
Syesha was shown the door, attitude wise from the judges.
David C got increasingly better comments from the judges with Simon declaring DC had won the night after DC sang the Aerosmith song IDWTMAT and was accompanied by a semi-circle of violins.
List of songs to be added later.
Wonder who won the coin toss for the pimp spot tonight?

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96. "RE: Who is getting pimpage? AI7 edition"

Final two:
DA won the coin toss. He sang second, natch.

First song: Clive Davis's choice:
"I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" by U2 - DC
"Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me" by Elton John - DA
Second Song Songwriters:
"Dream Big" - DC w/guitar
"In This Moment" -DA--a ballad
Third Song Personal Choice:
"The World I Know" by Collective Soul - DC, singing a new song
"Imagine" - DA, reprising an earlier song

DA got the tounge bath for the night. Major pimpage. Some think he outsang DC. We'll know when we get the results.

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