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"Is Gina in Trouble?"
zeako 99 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-07-02, 09:11 PM (EST)
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"Is Gina in Trouble?" |
Tonight's vote may have swung the balance of power away from Hunter and Gina. V, Sean, Sarah and Rob voted together out of self preservation, but will they continue to do so. The next time Maramu goes to Tribal Council Sarah will almost certainly vote for Gina and likely bring Rob along. The question is V and Sean. They don't seem to care for Sarah but may feel they were being targeted by Hunter/Gina. How have V and Gina gotten along? I don't recall seeing them interact, same goes for Sean and Gina.
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love2smile 194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-07-02, 09:19 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Is Gina in Trouble?" |
Honestly, I think both Gina & Hunter both could be in trouble...it was so obvious that either Sean or Sarah should have gone tonight, they don't do sh*t around camp except whine. But, we will see Sarah's mouth go next week as we saw on the previews, but she had better be careful.....Lindsey got smart-mouthed too and look what happened.....
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cowboyroo 590 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-07-02, 09:22 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Is Gina in Trouble?" |
She also doesn't seem to have much nice to say about anyone...I think this is one of the first times in Survivor where there are so many possibilities for booting.... On Maraamu, Sarah, Vecepia, Sean, and Gina are all in jeopardy... On Rotu, who it seems is getting set up for the next boot has Kathy still there and on nerves, Robert sick and now injured, Gabriel injured, John injured, Paschal old, Neleh winning gross food challenge which seems to always be bad news, leaving Zoe and Tammy as probably the safest....Then Tammy is the one saying, everything changes, which may be foreshadowing that she's the unsafe one.... This may very well be the best Survivor of them all....
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smiley 2009 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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03-08-02, 07:51 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Is Gina in Trouble?" |
I have to agree here. It seems to me Gina and Hunter are probably the two strongest and hard working people in the tribe. If the others are thinking ahead they would want these people on their side. Sarah is going to WANT someone else to do her work for her. Vote off the hard working players and she will be stuck with doing work herself *laugh*...and you KNOW she wouldn't want that! Plus that group would be lost without Hunter so I don't see them voting him off just yet.
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westgirl98 92 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-08-02, 08:43 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: Is Gina in Trouble?" |
I agree Things will change this early on a daily basis. lets not forget also that this Survivor will be different than all others according to MB. A switch may really shake things up and then sarah will be gone she's a lazy lttle &*^$%!!! she needs to go and whats so cute about her anyay? her fake body? PLEASE>>>>> Lets just hope sarah goes the next time her tribe loses.
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Lurking 156 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-13-02, 02:32 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Is Gina in Trouble?" |
One can hope, though the longer Sarah stays the more opportunities that can arise to help her. This happened with Charlotte of the first UK Survivor.
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Seyz 198 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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03-08-02, 01:31 AM (EST)
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5. "Hunter and Gina In Trouble. Sean and Vecepia the Safest." |
The way I see it is that Hunter and Gina are really in big trouble right now. Both of them have been too vocal about their criticisms.Sarah is going go after them with a butcher knife.. and I don't see how she can't win the battle. Here's a one on one analysis: Sarah- Will Vote for: Gina or Hunter There's no doubt that Sarah will go after Gina and Hunter right now. Gina was way too vocal in criticizing Sarah at TC. Sarah probably hates Gina's guts.. and she she seems to hate Hunter pretty much too. In today's episode.. she really complained about how Hunter was taking the leadership thing too far. Same complaint from Sean. Sarah will pounce on the chance to vote for either Gina or Hunter. Rob- Will vote for : Gina or Hunter Rob's going to stick with Sarah.. He knows there's strength in numbers.. why vote off his own ally? he didn't vote off Sarah this week..a week in which he was arguably vulnerable.. Rob's probably going to go along with whoever Sarah votes for. Gina- Will vote for: Sarah Um.. yeah..TC this episode and preview says all. She obviously has some issues with Sarah. Hunter- Will vote for: ???? Sarah??? Hard to say.. I think he'll try to vote off sarah after Sarah does the Lindsey thing. Sean- Will vote for: Hunter, Gina or Sarah. Seems like they two people getting on Sean's nerves are Hunter and Sarah. I think since he and Rob may have formed a semi-alliance.. they might start voting together.. Hey don't fix something that's not broken. I think Sean will vote with Rob and Sarah. Possibly for Hunter.. we'll see. Vecepia- Will vote for: Hunter, Gina or Sarah. Same as Sean.. except Vee seems to like Hunter, while Sean doesn't. I think Vecepia will still vote with Sean though.. and possibly go after Hunter or Gina. Who's the safest? In a switch of events.. the power belongs to Vecepia and Sean. It seems like Sarah and Rob will be matched off against Gina and Hunter.. Personally I think Vecepia and Sean will vote with Sarah and Rob. Rob, Sean AND sarah have complained about Hunter and him taking the "leadership role". Like to Go? Hunter or Gina. Of course, this is all assuming Rotu wins immunity before a switch or the merge occurs.
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ShowMeTheWinner 962 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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03-08-02, 04:37 AM (EST)
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Well I sure hope that the Maraamus are smart enough in keeping Hunter for his strength. If they do vote him out, the tribe's dead as nobody will do nothing in the camp and they're gonna lose almost all the challenges that I can think off other than a watermelon seed-spitting challenge. I don't think they're that dumb and would probably vote against Gina rather than Hunter. Things look bleak for the Maraamus-- they are the Samburus of S4 without the ability to win the challenges.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 11:27 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Hunter and Gina In Trouble. Sean and Vecepia the Safest." |
Seyz, I'll try to be nice about this: PLEASE re-read my message #3 above in this thread.And I'll even give you a POSSIBLE scenario: Hunter: Rob, let's talk. You were right, I was wrong. We should've voted for Patricia instead of Sarah last night. Rob: Yeah? Hunter: Yeah. I know you like Sarah, and she really was trying to help with that shelter. Sean and Vee are the ones not doing any work. Why don't you talk to Sarah and let's get things smoothed out and we'll be a group of 4 against Sean and Vee. Rob: Yeah? Hunter: Yeah. Now go collect some firewood. Okay, the problems with this are: Rob doesn't want to be Hunter's b!+ch anymore, Gina LOATHES Sarah (and vice versa), and Sean probably hates Hunter more than he (Sean) hates Sarah. But you get the idea that ANYTHING can happen. *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 08:52 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Is Gina in Trouble?" |
Yes, Gina is more vulnerable now, because she is Sarah's obvious target. No matter how Sarah feels about Hunter at this point, she cannot convince enough other people in the tribe to vote for someone so strong. Especially since Sean is a weak swimmer, the others will not shoot themselves in the foot by getting rid of someone they desperately need for challenges.Hunter and Gina will continue to target Sarah, because they know that they'll have a chance to sway Sean and Vee to vote with them. Sean will probably be willing to go along with it, thinking that he can get Rob to side with him and Vee, allowing Sean to take the much-desired (in his mind, at least) Alpha Male Status. Rob spelled it out during the last episode. Hunter wants Rob to ally with him and Gina and dump Sarah. But Rob is also considering throwing in with Sean and Vee (unless that move would be "stupid", his word). I think Gina's safe for one episode, until Sarah is gone. Sean and Hunter would both be willing to go after Sarah and then work on getting Rob to choose the ultimate Maraamu alpha male.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 11:38 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Gina and Hunter have themselves to blame" |
Hunter stated that it was too early to form alliances. Many people said that he was right to take this approach. I thought it was a mistake. I thought Hunter was outright lying when he said that. I think Hunter believed he had an alliance of Gina, Patricia and Rob, and Sarah would follow Rob's example.Hunter miscalculated on two fronts: He thought Sean hated Sarah because he (Sean) voted for Sarah, and Hunter thought that he had Rob in the bag and that Rob would have the brains to think about what Hunter was saying about Sarah. Turns out that Rob has no brains, so he's thinking with his little head instead of his big, empty one. Rob likes spooning Sarah and her melons in the raft at night. Work ethic? What's a little work ethic compared to spending time with a good-looking girl that is paying you all kinds of attention. Also, Hunter may not know, or may have miscalculated, that Sean hates Hunter far more than he (Sean) hates Sarah. "Boy! Oh, Water Boy!" says Hunter to Sean. I'm surprised Sean didn't front Hunter right then and there... but at least Sean is playing the game and keeping it cool for now. I don't expect that to last. *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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jkokoj 4389 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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03-08-02, 12:06 PM (EST)
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18. "Gina is safe" |
Vee and Sean voted for Sarah in episode 1 because she was not pulling her weight.In Episode 2 SEAN approaches Vee to talk about something serious. Sean knows that he is on the outside and that he and Vee have two bonds, being African American and religous, and that Vee would probably vote with him THIS TIME. Later in Episode 2 Hunter, Gina and VEE are in wading in the water looking for seafood. These three are discussing Rob/Sarah. Vee called the pair "Frick and Frack". This last tribal council was a vote to keep Sean safe. The only way he could accomplish that was to have Vee along with Rob. Sean played on Rob's "emotional" (cough) attachment to Sarah. Vee in the end is going to stick with Hunter and Gina. These three have shown the most maturity so far. Gina and Sarah will confront eachother and there will possibly be some sort of tie at a TC, however, Gina is safe for at least one more episode.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 02:04 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Gina and Hunter have themselves to blame" |
Vee was saying that both Patricia and Sarah helped her make the fronds for the shelter. Maybe she thinks Sarah is working more than before. I think Vee likes Sarah more than Gina does. I think the players are changing their minds about each other with each day. They are all accessing which is the best way for each of them to vote. One day they like the leadership of a player and by the next day they say they are too bossy. When it comes down to it they are all playing for themselves. Even Rob said he joined up with Sarah because now he has her vote. So he could be using her and not really be that hung-up on her. Colby sure used Jerri for awhile.
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MikeD 344 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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03-08-02, 12:50 PM (EST)
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20. "HUNTER!!!!!!" |
If I were Rob and Sarah, I would convince Vee and Sean to vote the Himbo off next. Both Vee and Sean have both said that they don't like him very much - he would be the obvious next choice. Duh people - play the fricking game....
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zzz 703 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-08-02, 02:01 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: HUNTER!!!!!!" |
There is a real problem with your strategy. If they vote Hunter off and there is not a switch (it looks like there will be switch in E4 based on the title, but the players cannot be sure if or when a switch would occur), the tribe would have lost its strongest member. That might very well lead to losing most if not all of the remaining challenges. That would mean they might be forced to canabalize their alliance even before the merge. It would also likely mean going into the merge at a disadvantage, raising the likelihood of being "pagonged" by Rotu. No matter how much they may hate Hunter, weakening the tribe that much would be reckless. Of course, if you are high on Hunter's hit list, you may not have a choice but to take the chance. But even then--you should go after Gina first.
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vulcan 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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03-08-02, 02:13 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Is Gina in Trouble?" |
I would agree with the majority in thinking sarah would be the next to go right now there is no need for her anymore and the only reason why sean and vee didnt go after her in e2 was to stop a strong 4 man alliance that hunter was trying to form. I must asay that was a great move by sean and vee going after pat rather than sarah and then goin on to play rob like a fiddle the way they did but i think for the next episode they have nothing to worry about as they win a challenge finally by way of immunity. Rob and Sarah wont go far
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 06:01 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Hunter thinks alot of Gina" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-08-02 AT 06:16 PM (EST)I found this message written by Hunter about Episode #1. http://www.histar.com/djs/jeff_jer/starchive/2002-03/survivor4/hunters_notes.shtml It was interesting and gave his opinion on the group and explains a little more why Peter was kicked out first.
the message:
Survivor notes from Hunter Ellis ... Well, everyone probably saw episode 1 and I hope you all enjoyed it. I must say it was a trip to see myself back on the island playing a game that I had watched on TV before. It was wild... but definitely cool. I thought it was a fair portrayal of everyone. It must be real hard to edit the show with tons of footage from 2 tribes over 3 days, 24 hours a day with multiple cameras. I will try and fill you in on some of the details that they didn't show. My keyboard is screwed up and the e doubles a lot and so I am not going to fix them all, so please bear with it. Day 1- Jumped off the boat to start the game. That was awesome and we were so far away from where we were going in totally deep water. I liked the way this started! Alreeady noticed that several people felt way out of place in the water and I was probably going to have to make up for some of this. We probably rowed for 3hours or so, but we finally hit the beach. The boat was small so I kicked on the outside most of the timee and Rob would sometimes trade with me. Sean tried to get in at one point, but in less than a minute his eyes got sooo huge and he started screaming that something was stinging him and he was clawing over all of the girls to get in the boat and screaming like a baby the whole time. Naturally I jumped off the raft into the water and told him I would stay out the rest of thee way. Sean was also pretty sea sick at this point as was Sarah (AKA Barbie). Hit the beach and found out that no one really wanted to provide any solid guidance. I was trying to lay low and just toss out a couple of suggestions, but quickly saw that my gameplan would have to change if we were going to provide for ourselves to maintain our strength and build a cohesive team. See the videos on thee CBS website for my views on this. Rob and Sarah were already hooking up. I couldn't figure this one out and they seemed to know a lot about each other. Initial impressions of everyone: Rob- Funny, but came to play the game as the class clown. Nothing wrong with that... should bee entertaining/ Sarah- Enough said. You saw the show. That is Sarah. Patricia- Probably a candidate for first boot, but real nice. Peter- Complete weirdo but nice. Could tell he thought he should be in charge.. I didn't challenge this Vee- Vee did a weird exorcism on Sarah on thee boat when she was sea sick ... and what ever she said it worked because stuff was leaving sarah like theree was no tomorrow and I just scooted away hoping that it would not jump into my body. So Vee was nice but I knew she was real religious and vocal about it. Gina- Awesome. same likes and dislikes as me. same viewpoint on the game. I knew from the moment I saw her she would be a powerful ally I was surprised to see we had a magnifying glass, so immediately knew we could get fire. Took all of about an hour and Peter Gina and I were the ones who basically worked on it. Sarah was bathing! First night- Sarah and Rob were in the play pen (thee boat) and the rest of us slept on banana leaves. The whole chicken thing with rob was pretty funny at first, but what they didn't show was that this was all he was doing. It got to be so distracting that between sarah and thee chickens rob was neveer around. Several of us thought this was real distractive. I was beginning to tell we had some real characters in our tribe.... they would always try to get us into group prayer and Peter was talking about the weirdest stuff. The challenge- We got to the fire first but as Gina lit the torch it went out as Rotu got there. Rob then went back to light it but dinked the whole thing and killed the flame. As everyone screamed trying to figure out what to do, Rotu lit their first torch and so I yelled to get the fire from their side. We were so far behind but still in the race as we were gaining once we got fire. Sarah was a major pain screaming the whole time that we got screwed. She waasted more breath yelling than swimming. Anyhow we lost due to some unfortunate circumstances. Peter's big mistake- We didn't know who we were going to vote out yet, but Peter immediately came to me and said he was mad about the challenge and thought that I had not included him in the planning. I told him that i wasn't in charge and that if he has an idea he needed to voice it. We all have an equal stake in this. Then he accused me of alligning with patricia because I hugged her after the race. I said that she was 49 years old and overweight and I just congratulated her becaus I worried about her less than Shawn. Peter immediately started ticking everyone off by talking all about alliances and everything. He told Rob the next morning that I was going to vote him out and Rob came up to me. I just laughed and told him that was an outright lie. I told Rob that i was honest and I would tell anyone anything about what I thought. I had said he was a distraction because all he did was hang out with Sarah and cha! se chickens 24/7. I then went to Peter and said if he wants to tell people what i say that is fine, but use my words and don't twist them to influence people or we wouldn't trust him. Peter knew at this point he was gone and went into the Jungle for a couple of hours. While he was gone we got more work done than we had in the last 3 days and people were a team. At this pointwe knew who to vote for. I'll keep these shorter next time. Check out the CBS website for some additional footage. Also, my audition tape... hold the comments please!! See everyone Thurs and if you missed it, it is on again Wed at 9pm est/pst. Hunter
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smiley 2009 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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03-08-02, 07:34 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Hunter thinks alot of Gina" |
how come he didn't say anything about Sean???? This article was interesting. He hates Sarah which you could pick up from the show anyway. Interesting about Peter and their discussions. Sounds like Peter had a real problem..no wonder he didnt last long!
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