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"*** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***"
IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 07:23 PM (EST)
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"*** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-02 AT 08:04 PM (EST) by SurvivorBlows (admin)Please use this thread for EP2 comments before 12:00 EST... SurvivorBlows.com provides this thread as a service to two groups of people: 1) People who want to post and read about the episode as it is being telecast across the various time zones. If you can't wait for the show to appear in your time zone, read the 'East Coast Spoiler Thread' for an on-the-fly commentary. 2) Those people who want to access other posts on the Spoiler/Speculation board but do not want to see spoilers before the show is telecast in their timezone. Please do not post any commentary about the episodes as they are telecast in threads other than this one. Everyone is welcome to post on this thread! It's like Spoilers, Fanatics, and Bashers boards all in one!
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:06 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-02 AT 08:08 PM (EST)"Last episode on Survivor" recap... Mention of Rob/Sarah relationship... mention of the Kathy/John tension, mention of Sean and Hunter "leader" comflict and Hunter's "disputed" role as leader... mention of Peter getting voted out. I expect the mention of these issues to be an indication that they are going to likely be a factor in tonight's storyline -- therefore as of 8:05PM it looks better for Kathy bootee believers than for Patty folks. -SB
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:15 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Next morning at Mara they are all kidding around and having a good time. Hunter is giving a fake radio weather report for happiness cove. They are singing and dancing. Hunter is saying there are alot of contributors. He says Momma who you would expect to be the weakest probably does the most. Gina says that after not getting voted off Momma (Patricia) has changed and is being herself and working hard and pitching in.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:19 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
At Rotu John says he wants to be the provider and be at the top of the tribe. He finds some kind of crab and is excited. But the others say they need more. Then Kathy gets excited and finds a pool of small shellfish. There are alot of them and it means protein. But John says Kathy is very abrasive and he is unhappy she found the food and not him. They are calling it a seafood buffet. Kathy says now she feels she should be safe and not voted off for finding food. But she complains to the camera that nobody thanked her and said "way to go". She says she is not that hard to get along with.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:21 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Back at Mara Patricia is building the rocks around the firepit. Then her and Hunter go off to work some more. Sean and Vee seem a little fed up with Patricia telling them what to do. Sean said him and Vee are bonding. Meanwhile Patricia is talking about her tool tree. Sean and Vee are sitting talking while the other 5 are playing in the water.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:23 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-02 AT 08:24 PM (EST)Lots of additional footage of Kathy not fitting in... her big find is some shellfish in the shallow waters (big deal.) They also find a small crab or two. John is secretly resentful of Kathy since he had maanged to capture a single shrimp (I think Gabe and Tammy were heard walking away and saying "30 more and we have a meal") and thought he was The Man. Kathy is resentful that no one tells her "good job." Says she's not that difficult to get along with (sure...) The Rotu fools decide to smash the shellfish LIVE into rocks and eat the oozing stuff raw. In the process I think they loose half of it. ...hasn't one of these folks ever heard of BOILING seafood and then cracking the shell? -SB
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:32 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
At Rotu they build a snare to catch a pig. But the pig sets off the trap and gets away. Then Kathy tells the others she needs to have a meeting. She tells them the shelter isn't good enough. Tammy is not happy with Kathy treating them like kids. Gabe is questioning Kathy about what she wants. Kathy is defensive that everyone asks her why she is acting like she is. She gets all teary-eyed again. They decide to make the shelter bigger and put up Paschel's flag and have a special moment. Now Kathy can have room to sleep in the shelter instead of outside alone.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:37 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
RC is starting. Rotu sits out Robert. (Probably cause he's been sick) They each have a sunken fishing boat with about 250 rocks in it. They have to empty boat to bring it up It is tethered to an inner tube. One person dives down at a time while others wait at tube. They are playing for diving mask and fins. They all go down when they are trying to bring the boat up. Both boats are now up and they are paddling to shore. Rotu wins!
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:40 PM (EST)
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13. "Lots of focus developing possible bootees for Maraamu" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-02 AT 08:41 PM (EST)So far they seem to be spending ALOT of time developing possible bootes within MArammu: - Pat (because we already know why...) - Sarah (because Rob might become more productive) - Sean (because he's lazy) In the meantime every shot of Rotu seems to be about how Kathy doesn't fit in. This seems to be classic Burnett misdirection -- first get folks to think Kathy is going, then get them wondering which of the many Maraamu folks is going to be booted when they lose. -SB
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Dalton 1271 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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03-07-02, 08:50 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Immunity Challenge TIE between ROB and NELEHAnd ROBBIE BABY BARFS!!! Mara Lose!! Kathy is Safe!! Dalton
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 00:25 AM (EST)
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53. "RE: TahitiPresse was WRONG!" |
>Do you suppose MB used that paper as a red herring >source?!?! I threw out the idea several months ago... I don't think the reporters knew they might have been getting used, but I suggested that MB might have been playing them. ...I think I particularly mentioned it when the whole "1 tribe moves" idea was thrown out and their "evidence" was the area where the other tribe was still supposedly located was "still being patroled." My thought was that what was to stop Burnett from still keeping a couple of guards in the area and making the locals think the tribe was still there when instead they had already secretly moved to a new third merged tribe camp along with the other tribe. It just seems too damn easy for Burnett to have played games with these guys -- even without having to resort to paying off some of the locals to lie to the reporters. >P.S. TP (that's just >about the right abbreviation) LOL! >You should sign up to >write a summary. No thanks, I'm not the stage talent, just the guy behind the scenes.... although I DID write a Top Ten List once: http://www.survivorblows.com/newspub/viewnews.cgi?category=5&id=980701962 (that was a long, long time along, when the site was barely a month old) -SB
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 11:39 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Maraamu....Gina & Sarah at the TC...." |
And right on for Gina! Sarah's confession at TC is gonna be a gufu if I have to do it myself!
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 08:59 PM (EST)
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25. "Sarah makes an ass of herself at TC" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-02 AT 09:02 PM (EST)First she says she doesn't need a momma, she's 24 years old and her real momma hasn't told her what to do in 8 years. Then she admits to not doing as much in camp, says she works 16 hour days at home and didn't come here for that. Jiffy asks so what the hell dod you come here for -- she says fun and adventure, to play the game. Finally she tops it off by saving she's saving her strength for the challenges, she doesn't want to be the one to cost her tribe a challenge. Gina rebutes that if someone else has to work harder because Sarah's not working in camp and then because of that they are too weak for a challenge, that's not fair either (go Gina!) -SB
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 09:01 PM (EST)
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29. "...which leads to the question..." |
So why did Sarah become a contestant? Is she getting paid a marketing fee by her plastic surgeon?
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 10:15 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Typical..." |
I keep thinking MB wants Sarah on the show for ratings. So he may not pull a switch that would end in her getting booted sooner. He may lose part of his male audience.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 10:40 PM (EST)
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44. "Switch after Ep2?" |
I've been thinking about this as well Dawg.Given the fact that Burnett has done NOTHING in Rotu for the first two episodes other than develop the "everyone hates Kathy" storyline, you have to wonder how he is going to be able to keep any suspense over who Rotu will boot first. ...the only answer I've been able to come up with for this is a possible switch in early Ep3 -- in that case then it's possible the tribal dynamics might completely change and Kathy could join with some MAraamu refugees to save themselves. Is it a longshot, yes, but otherwise I'm trying to figure out where the Rotu editing is going... the only other thing I'm thinking is maybe Maraamu loses the first four challenges. -SB
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 09:00 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Rob talking to camera about how he blew it for the team. He says everyone is quiet and keeping to themselves.Sean telling Vee that Sarah or him is going to be the next to go. Rob is saying if Sarah is voted out he has to decide whether to hang with Hunter and be the worker bee. Or to hang with Sean and look stupid. Rob talking with Sean and walking. At TC talking to Jeff. Vee votes for Patricia Hunter votes for Sarah And the loser is..... PATRICIA vote was 4 - 3 for Patricia over Sarah
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 09:05 PM (EST)
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32. "The answer to shakes' mystery" |
So -- in answer to the question on shakes' thread -- Patricia really was part of the Hunter-Gina alliance, and the other two pairs had to gang up to keep them from gaining control. Meaning that Hunter was too stupid to learn anything from Silas' mistake. Doesn't look good for the Mooers.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 09:18 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: The answer to shakes' mystery" |
>So -- in answer to the question on shakes' thread -- >Patricia really was part of the Hunter-Gina alliance, and the >other two pairs had to gang up to keep them >from gaining control. Meaning that Hunter was too stupid >to learn anything from Silas' mistake. Doesn't look good >for the Mooers. I'm thinking back to Hunter's application video -- shot in a noisy restaurant, only a minute in length, nothing but a brief introduction -- I'm thinking that this guy was maybe found through an open casting call in the San Diego area. ...the only thing that might not fit is that the area wasn't that well lit, at least not nearly as well lit as the open casting call filming that I saw when they had an open casting call in Boston two weeks ago. Maybe this guy really has no clue about how much strategy is invloved in the game? ...and on the other hand, we could always play the sterotype, let's not forget -- he did FLY jet planes -- not engineer them. -SB
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 09:07 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: *** EP2 Official EAST COAST SPOILER Thread ***" |
Patricia, Hunter and Gina voted for SarahRob, Sarah, Sean and Vee voted for Patricia. Now we know what Rob and Sean were talking about. Rob wanted to save Sarah and Sean wanted to save his butt. They have made a deal. Gina is sticking with Hunter. Next week it shows Sarah and Hunter arguing. And at Rotu there is alot of pain. People are hurt and screaming about bites or something.
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 09:13 PM (EST)
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37. "Wow. (and a note to Sleeeve and OFG)" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-02 AT 09:14 PM (EST)I guessed right, but didn't foresee the way that vote went down. Sarah's flirtations with Rob paid off... BIG time! But we do have a MUCH clearer picture of the respective tribes: Kathy is indeed on the outs, and Sarah is thin (and I don't mean in her torso area). NOTE to SLEEEVE and OUTFRONTGIRL: Y'all GO, peeps! To AyaK: Your faith justified? *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-07-02, 11:29 PM (EST)
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46. "Racial Tension Exposed" |
It seemed to me that Sean the advocate was the only one picking up any kind of racial angle in anything, or did I miss something? Anyway, the race card has now been played. Sean's ally, Vecepia, the only one exposed to it so far, got catty with it in confessional, called him Malcolm Farakan. Ya gotta love it. Sean ain't kissin' butt, though, got to respect that.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-08-02, 00:18 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: Racial Tension Exposed" |
>Sean is definitely playing the racial >angle, or at least trying >to use it to find >a reason to feel sorry >for himself. I'm glad >to see that Vee was >having none of it. >Every time she opens her >mouth, something hilarious comes out >of it. Maybe we >should get HER to write >our summaries! > Works for me, she has a real gift. Frankly, I'm also beginning to feel sorry for her: Hunter may have survivalist smarts, Sarah may have the world's best plastic surgeon, but Vee seems to be the Maraamu with the best aptitude for the game, shame she got stuck on a tribe that can't get its act together."If all machines were to be annihilated at one moment, so that not a knife nor lever nor rag of clothing nor anything whatsoever were left to man but his bare body alone that he was born with, and if all knowledge of mechanical laws were taken from him so that he could make no more machines, and all machine-made food destroyed so that the race of man should be left as it were naked upon a desert island, we should become extinct in six weeks." (Samuel Butler, "Erewhon")
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