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"Peter's chat"
Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 03:05 PM (EST)
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"Peter's chat" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-02 AT 03:43 PM (EST)Post insights here... Group voting: Peter confirms the 5 did make a pact to vote him off. He knew it on day 3. It was frustrating and uncomfortable being with the 5. Meanwhile, Sean and Vee comforted him. Romance: Rob and Sarah were in love, Hunter and Gina were falling in love, Patricia was too close to his age to be his Mom, but Sean and Vee had real conversations with him. Peter says the "love" was obvious, had nothing to do with blatant actions--permeated the air. Peter likes Rob, even though he was part of voting bloc against him: Peter did think (earlier I guess) that Hunter would actually vote Rob off for chasing the wild chickens. Peter liked Rob's sense of humor and was upset that Hunter was down on him. Rob's got a big big heart. Only lives half hour from Peter. Peter plans to make him eat a box of Fruit Loops in Peter's kitchen. Thought the Fruit Loops comment very funny. Peter may not like Sarah, but: Sarah is Sarah. Strong person. Like her or not I respect that about Sarah. Bootee location: Peter confirms that he stayed on opposite side of the island. Was transported there secretly from a "safe house" near TC, before sunrise. This would be Anaho Bay, as speculated. Internet: Peter must follow the message boards since he came back. He says about his "cologne"--"I'm amazed the people on the Internet didn't figure that one out." Luxury item trick: Says he tricked the producers into thinking he wanted to smell good when he really wanted the alcohol base to act as lighter fluid. He was not given the option of leaving it behind. Clothing list confirmed: 2 shirts, 2 pairs shoes, 1 long and 1 short pair pants, one bathing suit. Socks all mostly ruined after first two days. "Foot issues became a concern for all." Tribal future: WOULD not make ANY comment on any Rotu member. Must have clamped down on that spoiler hard. Possible hint about Mara: My goal was to get as many of my team members to the jury as possible. Let's see how the strategy of my teammates works out. I wish them the best. Shades of comments on Samburu by Carl? A bit of a let's see who was right in wanting to preserve the physically strongest members? A hint they make the same mistake twice? HUGE kiss-ass promo closer: "I'm so curious to see if the love blossoms that I think is inevitable. We'll find out together." GAG ME. Like he doesn't know perfectly well. Funniest kiss ass comment: What is Mark Burnett like? A: One word: integrity.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 03:21 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Peter's chat" |
>Peter confirms the 5 did make >a pact to vote him off. He knew it >on day 3. It was frustrating and uncomfortable being >with the 5. To me, there were two clear signs of this: 1) I can't remember the question Jiffy asked Peter at TC, but he answered that he really was never comfortable since they landed -- what I heard is that this was a guy who clearly KNEW he was about to be leaving 2) That whole hugging and "best of luck" thing before they left camp for TC. What the heck was that all about -- it was like a wake -- everyone coming over comforting ONLY PETER and saying best of luck TO ONLY PETER. Why weren't the rest of them also hugging EACH OTHER and saying the same??? (as soon as I saw that I immediately came to the conclusion that a Peter boot had already been predetermined.) -SB
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 03:27 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Peter's chat" |
Yep, Webby. May I eat my crow here? I was arguing against a united vote on the couples thread. However, I'm not at all sure the two couples don't turn on each other soon.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 03:50 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Peter's chat" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-02 AT 03:54 PM (EST)Agreed, SB I somehow missed the footage of them hugging only Peter, so thanks for cluing me in. As you say, the TC comment was definitely from someone who'd realized he was going--not in any suspense. So I'm thinking that when Gina said she didn't want to discuss her vote, wanted to vote her own way, that was TO Peter, to shut his efforts down. As to her "I don't know which of three I'm voting for," I wonder if that got edited somewhat out of sequence for misdirection. Obviously it was early that day, but I got the impression in the timeline (as I was supposed to, I presume) that they were close to TC and she still didn't know. Peter indicated he knew pretty much the whole third day that he was out, as time passed very slowly, so it must have been shortly after he tried to announce his stategy and failed that he got the word. Edited because I'm getting incoherent. Too much fast typing.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-02-02, 03:29 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Hey Webby..." |
>...I don't know what you're smoking, but it ain't what I'm >smoking. Wait, that didn't come out right. What I I think it came out clear enough... and suddenly some things make a lot for sense now >PETER is the one who started the whole thing by >first hugging Huinter and saying "Good luck" and then proceeding >down the line and repeating the gesture with the rest >of the tribe. NO ONE comes up to him, he initiated the contact with all of them. Everyone Well, I just re-watched the video myself, and while I'll say it's clear Peter walked over to Robert, I'd say that you could agrue either way as far as Hunter and Gina. ...both he and Hunter seemed to watch a bit toward each other, and Gina (the 3rd and last hug shown) seemed to head toward Peter as well, although admittedly it could only be because by then she had figured out what he was doing. Regardless, upon my initial viewing -- that's what it looked like to me, more of a procession line than anything. -SB
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jkokoj 4389 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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03-01-02, 03:26 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Peter's chat" |
<Meanwhile, Sean and Vee comforted him.>I think this alone points to the fact that Sean and Vee are an alliance. Add this statement to the fact that they both voted for Sarah we must assume that they talked prior to TC and came to some decisions. One of those decisions must have been to attempt to sway Hunter. I say this based upon Vee's statement regarding Hunter during TC. Vee and Sean both discussed Sarah in a negative way during confessionals. <Peter did think (earlier I guess) that Hunter would actually vote Rob off for chasing the wild chickens.> Peter was led to belive that Hunter was not too crazy about Rob. Sarah and Rob appear to be a pair. If Vee and Sean do not like Sarah and Hunter does not like Rob, Vee and Sean may think they can work their way into an alliance that Hunter has with Gina. I think Peter's chat is insightful to the way Vee and Sean will interact. NOTE: I do not blieve these 2 were shown interacting at all in Episode 1.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 03:28 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Peter's chat" |
>Rob's got a big big heart. > Only lives half hour >from Peter. 30 minutes on the outside... for some people I'd say more like 15 minutes -- the point is these two are ridiciously close to each other. If Rob bowls, Peter's place is probably the nearest place. >Sarah is Sarah. Strong person. > Like her or not I respect that about Sarah. I think it's safe to say he's in the "or not" group. >Peter must follow the message boards since he came back. >He says about his "cologne"--"I'm amazed the people on the Internet >didn't figure that one out." > >Says he tricked the producers into thinking he wanted to smell >good when he really wanted the alcohol base to act >as lighter fluid. He was not given the option >of leaving it behind. Um, ok spyboy (gee, and here Sean was calling Hunter MacGuyver) ...here's a question then -- why didn't he offer it when they were trying to start a fire on Day 1??? -SB
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 03:37 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Peter's chat" |
Good question, Webby. But for all we know it did get used and that got edited out. Could be a case that the Burnett got pissed at another Colby Flag maneuvre. Doesn't want the public to see the Survivors outwitting with their luxury items.
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diamond 2307 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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03-01-02, 03:51 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Peter's chat" |
OFG, I suspect you are right about MB getting pissed about the luxury item, which could explain why he said he wasn't allowed to leave it behind. I know Jeff Varner said he left his coloring book behind so the others could keep coloring, so there definitely is precedent for them being allowed to leave their luxury items.
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George Tirebiter 2982 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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03-01-02, 03:29 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Peter's chat" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-02 AT 03:37 PM (EST)I dunno. . . added to his Early Show appearance, I'm not convinced this guy has a clue, even yet! He did say Vee was a sweetheart, but I'm not sure that Sean thought too much of him (that whole raft conversation--"chillin'?" Lame. . .) I get the distinct feeling Peter doesn't fit in ANYwhere, and his preoccupation with himself is his major stumbling block. Obviously, since he felt uncomfortable with EVERYONE (his words) from the start, I don't think he's the best judge of what was/was not going on--whatever he says is going to be conjecture on his part, if he's not in the loop. . . To be honest, even though we only got a fraction of their exposure to him, I was surprised the Master of the Orifice wasn't ousted by unanimous vote. . . Rob had the sense to get submissive when chewed out about wasting time on the chicken, Patricia made a good case for her strengths, and Peter was the only one to really make an ass of himself. If he'd had the true discipline to keep his mouth shut (yoga isn't strictly about your sphincter, asswipe!), Sarah could have been the one to go! I don't think the fact that she didn't is proof that she's going to have any special protection. . . I really sense she and Sean have made equally bad cases for their own longevity. The more I see of Peter, the more I see that he was THE obvious choice for the boot. No wonder Burn-it made this pick a gimme. . . GT Yeow! Edited because OFG added all kinds of stuff, plus there are suddenly 4 other replies ahead of me: I caught the cologne remark on teevee this morning, and wondered the same thing about WHY he hadn't offered it, if that was really his intent (seems like an afterthought--he DID have maximum time to devise the spin he would put on his performance. . .) Really, the more I think about this guy, the more I can't stop shaking my head. I think "Froot Loop" is too kind. . .
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TheWanderer 267 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-01-02, 04:41 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Peter's chat" |
Were the castwayas told about the change in the rules where prior votes no longer count? If not, then I could see that Sean wanted to build up votes against her and he knew Peter would be out with or without his vote. Same with Vee, except that Vee is just as "weak" and has as few, if any survival skills as Sarah. If they do know that priors no longer count, then Sean and Vee were not only foolish but stupid in voting for Sarah! The reason would be the two votes were announced and now Sarah knows she has to tow the line. This would make her a much stronger competitor against Vee.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 05:22 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Peters friends list" |
Weltek, they were so careful. They didn't allow anything vaguely resembling a "friends" or "keep in touch" question.I infer that Peter does not like Sarah from the "like her or not" comment in chat, which Webby commented on above. He loves Vee, but then Vee worked for a Ministry recently and they both have the same "be myself" philosophy. He doesn't like Hunter much. He said basically nothing about Gina. He denied that he and Patricia clashed. He really likes Rob. But then they are neighbors. He likes Sean, but again it seemed to be from Sean's sympathy on the island. Not a word was said about staying in contact except with respect to Rob, and Webby pointed out they live 15 minutes apart. He refused to make ANY comment about any Rotu member. Period. It was Diane mentioning Samburu friends that helped us last time. Obviously that didn't go unnoticed by those who read the boards for MB.
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 05:15 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Peter's chat" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-02 AT 05:25 PM (EST)Re: Vee having no more survival skills than Sarah. I wouldn't underestimate Vee, because she did her time in the Army, while Sarah served as high school cheerleader and Santa Barbara sorority girl. GT, I should go look up the TV guide thread and just don't have time right now, but I read somewhere else that the S4 people were informed of the S3 twist, not that they saw it. Edit: But please set me straight if the TV guide article flat out says they watched the Twist before they left. I know it's lame of me not to look up the reference before posting. Jeff V. said recently that the contestants are in isolation about a month before they shooting starts. A month before Nov. 12 takes us back to the premiere of S3. I would speculate they might have seen one episode at most. I thought when Kathy made the remark about not wanting to be the bitchy blonde that she MIGHT be saying she didn't want to be Diane and that Kathy knew she was acting like the first boot of S3 but couldn't help herself, but maybe not. In any case, the twist aired on Nov. 8, four days before they started filming, and no doubt they were already on Nuku Hiva. I can't imagine they were plunked down before a TV, nor that Burnett would have allowed them to watch Survivor at that point.. So I am proceeding with the thought they know nothing about the real dynamics of S3, that they are playing with a knowledge of the first two shows. Re rule changes: Burnett on the Early Show, Wednesday, said the contestants sign a contract saying the producers are free to tweak the rules. Burnett said they feel free to do anything to shake up the game "within the realm of fairnes." Ahem, fairness in the Burnett Thesaurus, would be equivalent to what?
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 05:22 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Peter's chat" |
>GT, >I should go look up the TV guide thread and just >don't have time right now, but I read somewhere else >that the S4 people were informed of the S3 twist, >not that they saw it. From Burnett's own mouth: They watched it in their hotel room the night before leaving America. >Jeff V. said recently that the contestants are in isolation about >a month before they shooting starts. A month before >Nov. 12 takes us back to the premiere of S3. If this was the ET.com story, I believe he was talking about the Final Fifty finalists in LA, not the 16 that get picked. The Final Fifty are stuck in a Los Angeles hotel for 2-3 weeks. >In any case, the twist aired >on Nov. 8, four days >before they started filming, and >no doubt they were already >on Nuku Hiva. I Per Burnett's quotes, nope... they don't fly in much in advance... I would think a couple of days ahead of time is enough for any required survival training, etc. >can't imagine they were plunked down before a TV, nor >that Burnett would have allowed them to watch Survivor at >that point.. Apparently he did, read the article. >So I am proceeding with the thought they know nothing about >the real dynamics of S3, that they are playing with >a knowledge of the first two shows. An incorrect assumption, again, read the article. >Re rule changes: >Burnett on the Early Show, Wednesday, >said the contestants sign a >contract saying the producers are >free to tweak the rules. Well, isn't that cute. What a dweeb. Wonder if this is as a RESULT of Lex's Final Three "incorrect" answer or if it is what PREVENTED Lex from having much of a lawsuit. -SB
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-02, 05:31 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Peter's chat" |
Webby, sorry you had to take time to set me straight. I had just posted an edit apologizing for not looking up the original post. Good reminder. And now I am off to the Dr's appt. that was the thing putting time pressure on me... it has been a bad week for me keeping up with the boards due to IRL problems although I wanted to be in the thick of spoiling. Apologies.
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volmel 362 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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03-02-02, 12:33 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Peter's chat" |
OFG, now you quit your apologizing. You have obviously taken the time to read Peter's chat, take notes and then summarize them here, and all of us have benefited. And here we have been rude enough not to even thank you. So thank you very much!
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TheWanderer 267 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-01-02, 05:30 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Peter's chat" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-02 AT 05:35 PM (EST)>Re: Vee having no more survival >skills than Sarah. >I wouldn't underestimate Vee, because she >did her time in the >Army, while Sarah served as >high school cheerleader and Santa >Barbara sorority girl. OFG... It's not that I'm underestimating Vee, I am aware of her time in the Armed Forces. I was just trying to emphasize that her skilss may be no greater, nor less than Sarah's. Point in fact, I know several individuals who were in the Armed Forces and they're dumber than a sack of hammers. >Burnett said they feel free to >do anything to shake up >the game "within the realm >of fairnes." Ahem, fairness >in the Burnett Thesaurus, would >be equivalent to what?
I believe it is equivalent to the Roman Emperor and whether his hemorrhoids were flaring up that day. Thumbs up, or thumbs down. (To be historically accurate, they actually used a closed fist for "death", not a "thumbs down).
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