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"Congrats! You've Jumped the Shark!"
bacon 2824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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04-14-07, 00:26 AM (EST)
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"Congrats! You've Jumped the Shark!" |
I've been waiting to announce this since day one of Idol's run. Thanks to a certain boy named Sanjaya, "American Idol" has done what The Fonz once literally did in an episode of "Happy Days".It becomes more and more apparent every year that "Idol" contestants are, pretty much, not so talented. Throw out Kelly Clarkson and it's obvious that this show has been nothing but a glorified karoake competition from the beginning. Not only is it a bad show, but it's also a terrible blow to the music industry. Every year I keep thinking to myself "Great, another crappy singer on the radio who's songs my Grandma would be too embarrased to like". Thankfully, it's all going to end. The ratings will be strong for the remainder of the season, but this show has officially peaked and will slowly, but surely, go downhill from here. Thank you Sanjaya!
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-14-07, 09:00 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Congrats! You've Jumped the Shark!" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-14-07 AT 09:17 AM (EST)We've been discussing this topic here: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID44/2199.shtml Some of us are disappointed in the overall talent this year but find parts of the show entertaining nonetheless. We even have favorites! Last year's talent raised the bar and made the comparison more striking. This feels like a season 3 repeat in many respects. For me, if Blake were not on the show I would probably not make it a point to watch the show each week. Yes, ratings are down overall for the season; votes, too. AI is using a plethora of guest coaches and artists this year to help draw in viewers. They are promoting the Sanjaya controversy to stimulate viewing. AI is still the top rated show on tv and it will be on for many, many more years before it is cancelled. We need more seasons before we can say it has really jumped the shark--but I did ask the same question in the thread I linked above. I wanted to track the ratings so we would have a better idea next year how it was doing. As for Sanjaya, we have had one of these lesser polished or talented contestants most seasons. Last season it was Kellie Pickler, who has gone on to have a gold record. Season 4 it was Scott Savol; season 3 there was John Stevens and Jasmine Trias. As to whether the contestants on AI are viable artists; less than 5 percent of artists/bands sell more than 500,000 albums. Many idols have already sold much more than that--off the top of my head here are ones that I know have sold more than 500,000: Season 1 Kelly Clarkson Season 2 Clay Ruben Josh Gracin Season 3 Fantasia Season 4 Carrie Bo Season 5 Taylor Chris D Kellie Pickler
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geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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04-16-07, 10:02 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Congrats! You've Jumped the Shark!" |
Simple question -if Idol has been such "bad show" since the beginning, why do you keep watching it each season? And if you proceed to say "I don't watch it.", then why are you so sure its crap, and that its "jumped the shark"? geekboy I love puppies! S. Cowell
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zombiebaby 7356 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-16-07, 12:24 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Congrats! You've Jumped the Shark!" |
I thought we watched it cause we hated it and want to make fun of it? *head tilt*
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zombiebaby 7356 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-16-07, 12:22 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Congrats! You've Jumped the Shark!" |
Oh Bacon but think of the snark and how much of a train wreck this show is. I don't think they were really ever taken seriously were they?I think they can start by losing whatever backing band they have and hire the Rock Star house band. Frankly I'm suprised you are not on the Sanjaya love train! OH and I think you are right that this show has peaked. We don't get quite as many "OMG WHY U b Hatin" on the kids" posts as we used to. mmm...bacon. One more of J Slice's Awesome Creations!
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-16-07, 04:45 PM (EST)
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5. "First Time Voter" |
I do not watch "American Idol." I used to see the odd episode once in a while at a friend's house, but it seemed like one great big high school talent show, especially compared to the mature artists featured on "Rock Star." I mean, Jon Stevens, c'mon...I have not seen a single episode of "American Idol" this season, but I will vote for the first time ever tomorrow night. I don't plan to watch the program, just tune in during the last five minutes to review the voting instructions. I will vote as many times as possible for Sanjaya. I will continue to vote for Sanjaya every week until he becomes the next American Idol or until he is eliminated. I just hope that executive producer Cecile Frot-Coutaz takes notice. In the most recent issue of Entertainment Weekly, she is quoted as saying, "Eventually America gets it right. We're not worried. We love Sanjaya, but he's not going to win." This leaves me wondering: why does the show feature a contestant that the executive producer is certain will not win? Why was he chosen for the Final Twelve for the first place? Or even given a trip to Hollywood? You cannot tell me that there are not twelve singers out there who are sufficiently talented that the producers could put on a talent competition without a sense of who will win in the end. If this program were truly about finding and promoting undiscovered talent, then the contestants should all be so evenly matched that each week it should be a complete surprise who gets sent home. At the very least, the producers should feel that every contestant has a fighting chance to be the American Idol --- and they should be pleased and excited about the prospects of each and every one of them becoming the American Idol. Instead of giving the audience the best possible talent, they instead throw together a bunch of novelty acts. That's fine, but they should expect to reap what they sow. That's why I am voting for Sanjaya.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-16-07, 04:55 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: First Time Voter" |
If you don't like the show.If you have no interest in the show. If you don't even plan to watch this week. Why on earth would you care enough about this to devote hours of your own time, just to disrupt it for the thousands of people who do like it, who do have an interest and who do plan to watch? (Not the mention the fact that lots of people actually think Sanjaya is one of the more interesting people left on the show. lol. are you looking for thank you cards for his fan club?)
Really. I'm serious. I really don't understand.
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-16-07, 05:04 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: First Time Voter" |
I thought there were limits on the number of times you can vote. That's why I need to tune in to review the voting instructions.Why would I vote for Sanjaya? I thought I made it clear how insulting I found the executive producers comments, her implication that the American viewing audience can just accept what they are given because a couple of talented people actually get included in the competition so the viewers should just put up with the novelty acts. If the producers want to keep putting mediocre talent on the show, then they should be prepared to actually try to market those marginal singers should they actually win. I am a huge fan of Kelly Clarkson. I enjoy Carrie Underwood's music. How many Clarksons and Underwoods didn't make it on the show because a Sanjaya or a Jon Stevens got their spots? That's why I'm going to vote for Sanjaya. If that is the type of talent that the producers are going to include, then let them deal with consequences of not including the best possible talent.
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-16-07, 06:56 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: First Time Voter" |
I think Survivor does the same thing. I haven't watched Amazing Race in quite awhile, but I recall seeing the Coal Miner and his wife being interviewed last season (not the all star season) and he told the story of how he got on Amazing Race--that the producers of Survivor were "looking for a coal miner" and he tried out for it, did not get it but got the opportunity to try out for Amazing Race with his wife instead. That was one of the most deliberate examples of casting archetypes.American Idol appears to do the same thing--present different archetypes to the viewers to provide entertainment. (We have an American Idol Archetype thread started here as well--to try to see what types they are giving us year after year). Are the contestants THE best undiscovered singers in America? Some seasons more so than others--and this season is less so. I think the lower ratings and votes is giving them the info that they need to improve their "product" for next year. They are getting the message that their entertainment package is off the mark. Your voting for Sanjaya (and others who have a similar agenda in mind) are actually helping them achieve higher vote totals and will make them think the product is not so far off track after all. So, it could actually backfire. Recall that the show, despite its lesser talents offering this year, is still the top rated show in the country. As for "having to market" the winner, look no further than last year. They wanted Chris D to win. When he didn't, they still gave him the contract and promotion anyway. Taylor is with a completely different firm and their parting of ways is murky. Was it their idea or Taylor's? Still don't know. But I do know that Taylor had scant radio promotion of his single, which clumsily got released weeks after the album (in contrast to Kelly Clarkson releasing a single well in advance of her new album formula). You only had to click on any Clear Channel station website in America in Dec/Jan/Feb to see that Chris D was the chosen, er...I mean promoted one with Taylor nowhere to be seen. (as an aside, I don't know if this is really a bad thing for Taylor because that means he can go his own way more quickly and not be saddled with material he did not really want to record). As for marketing Sanjaya, imo they are counting on marketing him as a teen idol and will wring everything they can from him. I also do not think he will win. Let him remains standing while one of the divas goes home and the fans will rally for the other divas. Don't forgot the support building that goes on as the numbers dwindle. That's how Elliot got to third place last year--he picked up votes as others were ousted. AI knows this and they can forecast that Sanjaya will go out at 6th/5th/4th or even 3rd. But eventually enough people will coalesce behind the other contestants and Sanjaya will be at the bottom. Stick with us, HD, we are veteran AI viewers and love to dissect the show!
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-16-07, 07:03 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: First Time Voter" |
P.S. The reaction to Sanjaya cracks me up. We are getting posts like yours--and a friend of mine who has resisted AI for years recently told me that their family was now watching because "how can you ignore the Sanjaya phenom"? When I last had my hair cut, the stylist wanted to talk AI, and of course, Sanjaya. The water cooler factor is really high for the show, despite the level of talent. For all we know they may be congratulating themselves on "casting" Sanjaya.
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-17-07, 08:53 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: First Time Voter" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-07 AT 08:59 AM (EST)I have different expectations of the show. WHile I like Kelly C very much, I could tell from the very first season that we were not necessarily being given the top talent of the country each year--instead we were given some talented people who were cast as entertainment. I guess you did not read my reply to you--your plan of voting may actually backfire and play into their touting higher numbers as a sign that all is well with their program. There are even people voting for Sanjaya because Simon said he would quit if Sanjaya won--but Nigel or one of the other producers dispelled that with reminding us that Simon has a contract. Sanjaya = PR. PR = good for the show. They win if you jump on the Sanjaya train, lol. ETA: you can vote via phone or text for anyone you like, as many times as you like, for the 2 hours following the show. Some people even set up power dialers (dialidol.com) and program it to vote for their favs so it rotates among the ones they want. Some people use both text votes and phone votes. It helps to have unlimited texting if you go the text route .
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-17-07, 10:52 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: First Time Voter" |
Happy voting! I will be entertained watching Sanjaya for another week or two or three.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-17-07, 11:38 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: First Time Voter" |
>I just >want to see the producers >continue to smile through their >gritted teeth as Sanjaya continues >to move along. I highly, highly doubt their teeth are gritted,lol, when Sanjaya is actually bringing in new viewers and boosting their ratings.
the producers don't care how many records are sold. that's simon's and clive's problem. and since they're already multimillionaires it's a little hard to care about that. and you're clearly missing a key element about sanjaya. the celebs who've worked with him think he's talented. j-lo and marc anthony especially, they both loved him. so go ahead and vote for him if it makes you happy. but it's making a lot of other people who actually LIKE the kid happy too.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-17-07, 08:04 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: First Time Voter" |
Although I wouldn't go so far as to vote for Sanjaya, I understand HD's comment completely. I actually watched both Sanjaya's audition and his performance in Round 2. His audition was good enough to get him to Hollywood. But he stunk in Round 2. I was stunned when the judges voted him through to the semis. Why did they do it? All I could think of at the time was that they were hoping for exactly what happened -- that his looks versus his minimal talent would make him a lightning rod that would attract peeps to the show.Does that create "must-see TV"? Maybe for some. But not for me. Since Jon Stevens, no no-talent has advanced this far in the competition. I know people criticized Anthony and Scott, but both of them were good singers. Really. Sanjaya is different. He's the freak show. So what's he doing here, if not to become exactly what he has become -- the freak? Soylent Green: recycling America, one person at a time.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-17-07, 03:47 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: First Time Voter" |
but this is the sixth season. this is what the show IS. it's just silly, imo, to get worked up about it! watch or don't, but golly, keep it in perspective. it's a tv show. although I'm still worked up about all the hype about how seattle sucked, when what they really were saying is that seattle had an unusual amount of crazies in addition to the actual talent. and the extra crazies bumped a lot of talent out of the pool that the judges saw. and .... here's my chance to repeat this. THREE of the top SEVEN auditioned in Seattle. yes, off topic. you'll see me say it again in a few days, when I expect that HALF of the top 6 will be from Seattle auditions.
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emydi 13669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-17-07, 02:56 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: First Time Voter" |
this is the philosophy of VFTW...watch Letterman tonite HD
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