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"Idol Archetypes"
zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-05-07, 09:43 PM (EST)
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"Idol Archetypes" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-07 AT 11:01 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 04-09-07 AT 10:55 AM (EST) LAST EDITED ON 04-09-07 AT 09:49 AM (EST) We've had enough seasons with AI to start to see some archetypal casting in AI contestants. I have taken a stab at organizing them; seasons 4-6 are easier to recall, of course! One type that we all discuss is the diva; I have suggested some other types but am open to suggestions! Some contestants fit in more than one group. What is on the producers' and judges' minds when they select the top 24? Thoughts? AI Archetypes Season 6: Pretty girl: ---------- Haley Diva: ----------------- Lakisha, Melanie, (Steph) Young Girl: ----------- Jordin, Steph Alternative or rocker girl: Gina (Leslie Hunt would have filled this role) Country girl: --------- none Interesting guy: --------- Chris S Handsome guy: ------------ Chris R* Alternative or rocker guy:- Blake African American guy: --- Brandon Young guy: ------------- Sanjaya Military guy: --------- Phil Country guy: --------- none *some posters talk about his looks
Season 5 Pretty girl: -------Kat Diva: ------------- Mandisa Young girl: ------- Paris, Lisa Alternative girl: -- Melissa Country girl: --- Kellie Interesting guy: -----Taylor, Elliot Handsome guy: ------- Ace African American guy: -- none (Gideon would have been) Young guy: -----------Kevin Corvais Rocker guy: --------- Chris Daughtry Country guy: -------- Bucky Covington Military guy: ------- none
Season 4
Pretty girl: ------- Jessica Diva: ------------- Nadia, Vonzell Young girl: -------- Mikalah, (Lindsey) Alternative or rocker girl: --none Country girl: -------- Carrie, Lindsey Interesting guy: ----- Scott Handsome guy: -------- Anwar African American guy: --- Nikko (Anwar) Young guy: ------------- Anthony Rocker guy: ----------- Bo, Constantine Country guy: ----------- none Military guy: ---------- none
Season 3 Recall there were 8 girls in the top 12; only 4 guys Pretty girl: ---------- Jasmine Diva: ---------------- Fantasia, LaToya, JHud Young girl: ----------- Diana Degarmo Alternative girl:------ Camile V? Leah? Country girl: -------- Amy Adams? Interesting guy: ------- Matthew Rogers Handsome guy: --------- none African american guy: ---- George Huff Young guy: ------------ John Stevens Alternative or rocker guy: -- Jon Peter Lewis Country guy: -------------- none Military guy: ------------- none
Season 2 and Season 1 ***Still working on the first two seasons***
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-06-07, 09:59 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Idol Archetypes" |
Nicely done!
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-06-07, 11:11 AM (EST)
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Thanks, Nailbone! This archetype thing stuck in my head when Simon said to Gina a few shows back--something like "Oh, so you are the rocker chick"; later I read on some board that Gina was unhappy being pigeonholed as the rocker chick but felt no choice in a season awash with divas.Then Haley started making more of her assets in a Kat-like fashion and it dawned on me that she is the resident Pretty Girl.. It doesn't mean that she is the only pretty one; just that is how she is being pigeonholed. The judges comment on Jordin's age and Sanj's age--more slotting. Season 3's Amy, Leah and Camille are murky for me. I remember them but I don't recall how they were specifically categorized on the show. Then there are even more in season 2 I am trying to recall...so that's why I have not finished that season yet.
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-09-07, 10:59 AM (EST)
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Thanks, Magnolia! I updated the chart with your feedback. I remember liking Lindsey but totally blanked on any country feel from her. IRRC, the judges made a lot of Mikalah's age that year but did not bring it up much with Lindsey. Shows how important it is to be memorable, like Simon frequently mentions.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-09-07, 02:14 PM (EST)
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I'm watching my brain work on this one, and it's funny how I have this need to organize this differently -- primarily by archetypes instead of by seasons. Maybe I'll try compiling it that way, and see if it helps me think in these terms. I mean like this: Rockers: Nikki (1), Bo (4, country rock), Constantine (4, he's both pop and rock), Chris D (5), Gina (6) As I said, this is just about me, not the way you're presenting it!
I like the idea.
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toddE 1433 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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04-09-07, 03:16 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Idol Archetypes" |
DeGarmo was totally a country girl...she sang friggin LeeAnn Rimes.Ryan Starr was the original Rocker Girl (and still the best) Carmen Rasmussen was a young girl. Josh Gracin was country and military. Kimberly Caldwell was a pretty girl. Kimberly Locke was a diva. I could add the category of gay guy, but that would probably anger some posters, so just imagine them. I can't place one for the season 4 or 5, though. "Hearthrob" might be a better classification than handsome guy. Borrowing from ANTM, token "Plus Size" is a valid category,but can't be gender-specified. And how would we classify the original AI, Kelly Clarkson.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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04-09-07, 03:28 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Idol Archetypes" |
Just saw your musing on Kelly.Maybe -- down to earth, or real people? genuine? the most obvious, with lots of runners-up: Kelly (1), George (3), Melinda (6)
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zazzy 4390 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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04-09-07, 05:07 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Idol Archetypes" |
What is ANTM? Thanks for the season 1 and 2 people--keep it up--I have not had time to research them yet!
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