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Angelfood 2114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 10-21-04, 09:11 AM (EST) "Somethin funny going on here..." Some thought I've had about oddities & social climate of the show. Please join in if you've noticed the same or something different. Things that I am bothered by (after 2 episodes): 1. With 46 people on the island, all of them are lost and confused and looking for a leader (am I just jaded from too many leaders in a Survivor tribe of 9?). Why does no one want to help lead or make decisions? They seem pretty passive to me (even the aggressive ones like Sawyer). (fantasy island explanation: so that Jack can fulfill the role of hesitant leader and hero? plot device?) 2. Why don't any of the 46 people communicate much with each other? No one asks much of each other. No introductions and campfire fellowship time. It's sad that Michael chooses a woman that speaks another language to look after his son. There are at least 10 other women walking around (i rewatched my ep. 4 tape). And then, when people DO try to communicate with the Koreans, they don't even use hand motions. Even I could think of a few signs for " you (point) watch (binocular eyes) my boy (point) while i go (fingers walk toward forest) hunt (bow & arrow)". Does no one play charades anymore??? 3. Why couldn't anyone jump in the water and help Jack rescue the swimming girl? or at least take boone from him? They all just stood on the beach like, "jack, come quick, we need you!". Then, Boone has the gall to criticize Jack for saving him! Criticize the other 44 people sitting around! (I couldn't believe this - seems too contrived for me). 4. Would 46 people really be that individualistic and selfish instead of banning together for survival of the group? maybe. wow. 5. With Jack being so indispensible (as the only doctor and leader), you'd think they'd have a watch on him 24/7. Where ya going Jack? to the forest to chase a ghost? Not without us, you aren't!!! 6. Especially if I was the pregnant gal. I would not want the only doctor to deliver my baby - go running off and risking his life. Not uh! AF   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    My best quess Breezy 10-21-04 1    RE: My best quess 1derfool 10-21-04 3        RE: My best quess Angelfood 10-21-04 5    RE: My best quess Schnookie Palookie 10-21-04 7    RE: My best quess Pretty_Kitty 10-21-04 12    you rang? zombiebaby 10-21-04 14  RE: Somethin funny going on here... J Slice 10-21-04 2    RE: Somethin funny going on here... Angelfood 10-21-04 4    RE: Somethin funny going on here... Swami 10-23-04 17  RE: Somethin funny going on here... Schnookie Palookie 10-21-04 6    RE: Somethin funny going on here... blacknwhitedog 10-21-04 9        RE: Somethin funny going on here... Schnookie Palookie 10-21-04 10            RE: Somethin funny going on here... joannie 10-21-04 13  some more - boars & monster Angelfood 10-21-04 8    Locke and monster Breezy 10-21-04 11        RE: Locke and monster motormouth 10-22-04 15            RE: Locke and monster 1derfool 10-22-04 16                RE: Locke and monster dabo 10-24-04 21  I have one question... volsfan 10-24-04 18    RE: I have one question... Angelfood 10-24-04 19        RE: I have one question... volsfan 10-24-04 20    The Plane buckeyegirl 10-26-04 23        RE: The Plane blacknwhitedog 10-26-04 24            RE: The Plane dabo 10-26-04 25                RE: The Plane tvhead 10-26-04 26                    RE: The Plane joannie 10-26-04 28                        The black rock joannie 10-29-04 30  What's buggin' me... miamicatt 10-25-04 22    RE: What's buggin' me... tvhead 10-26-04 27        RE: What's buggin' me... Angelfood 10-26-04 29

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Breezy 18380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 09:14 AM (EST) 1. "My best quess" which Jack talked about last night is... they were all waiting around to be rescued. So why ban together and work together? We'll be rescued soon and off this darn island. My questions are about the empty coffin. So is his dad now a zombie? I've been Gothed.   Top

1derfool 185 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-21-04, 09:27 AM (EST) 3. "RE: My best quess" I was thinking the same thing... why get organized if we're going to be rescued soon? No need for a leader to lead us for a couple of days, just survive on what we have and wave to the rescue planes. The empty coffin got me too. My heart skipped a beat when I saw there was nothing in it. And what's with all those dolls? They're not they typical dolls that little girls play with now, they seem to be a collection of some sort. Cabbage patch or Barbies wouldn't have made me sit up and take notice, but these dolls are really something else. I bet they'll be worked in prominently (if it had just been meant as toys in the wreckage, wouldn't they have included some for the boys?)   Top

Angelfood 2114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 10-21-04, 09:35 AM (EST) 5. "RE: My best quess" LAST EDITED ON 10-21-04 AT 09:36 AM (EST) yes, I can understand that for the first few days, but as a castaway, I would still be asking questions like, "how much water do we have?", "how much food do we have?". And it still bothers me about the "rescuing the swimmer" stuff. EMPTY coffin - yes! they love to leave us with more questions, don't they. Could be 'risen" or my guess is that he figured that the body was taken by boars or had the same fate as the pilot. I think that the Dad was a ghost, leading him to the water and plane. Now, was that the back of the plane? Did he check inside and look for other bodies or survivors? I hate how they cut away from the person, and only show us when they return to the beach. darn!   Top

Schnookie Palookie 16822 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 11:01 AM (EST) 7. "RE: My best quess" If Dad's a zombie, he'll need some spackle to spruce him up. I was somehow thinking along the lines of the island being a miracle island. Locke now has the use of his legs. Jack's dad is now alive. However, that theory is shot because I remembered that the marshall died. Dad is probably just a ghost. A Gothmog original.   Top

Pretty_Kitty 536 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 10-21-04, 12:53 PM (EST) 12. "RE: My best quess" I thought they wouldnt let jack bring his fathers body on the plane and he was going home with an empty coffin and that he opened the coffin in wishful thinking not likely I know was that thier plane at the fresh water site or another one from a long time ago? and WHY is no one worried about the dang Polar bear or whatever it is GOD I LOVE THIS SHOW *Kitty*   Top

zombiebaby 7356 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 06:33 PM (EST) 14. "you rang?" Yeah and why did he not tell anyone, kind of like how Locke did not tell anyone about his legs. I am wondering about that dog too. Wouldn't it's cage have be in the same cargo area also? Did it come back from the dead too? Zombie Island? Handcrafted by RollDdice Don't Google "hairy toes"!!   Top

J Slice 13166 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 09:15 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Somethin funny going on here..." The answer to all of them is - it's a tv show written by tv writers. Thus, everyone's an idiot. RIP Franklin and Bertram   Top

Angelfood 2114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 10-21-04, 09:32 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Somethin funny going on here..." Aaaarrghh! I was really hoping, deep down, that WASN'T the explanation! Why do I even expect more? But thanks for that dose of reality! tee hee. Wait, are you saying "Geesh, it's just a tv show"? Cuz we all say that on the Apprentice bds too.   Top

Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-23-04, 09:54 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Somethin funny going on here..." Spoilsport. I will continue to look for deep, universal meanings because, uh, well... a slice of Slice I don't think Jack is hot. It Jack were hot I wouldn't need to search for meaning as much.   Top

Schnookie Palookie 16822 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 10:07 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Somethin funny going on here..." DH and I were wondering the same thing about everyone standing on the beach while only Jack was saving the guy in the water. They were all there! I'm not a swimmer but if someone were drowning, I'd sure as heck be out there trying to help save them. My big question now is ... what did Jack do in his past? Love this show! A Gothmog original.   Top

blacknwhitedog 6532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 11:27 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Somethin funny going on here..." Jack's story is just guilt 'cause in the end, he couldn't save his father. Just like the speech his father gave him when he was a kid. I think the body just dumped out of the coffin somewhere. It just adds to Jack's frustration of not having closure. The whole dehydration thing caused him to hallucinate about his father. But in his quest he was able to find a source of drinking water. And remember to keep repeating "It's just a show, I should really just relax" (from MST3k) a Phoenix Mons creature   Top

Schnookie Palookie 16822 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 12:15 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Somethin funny going on here..." In the flash back with Jack and his mom, he said he wasn't going to go looking for his father. She said he had to because of what he did. I want to know what he did.   Top

joannie 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-21-04, 04:23 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Somethin funny going on here..." I have some questions about Jack's past, too. Whatever it was, it happened "two months ago," according to Jack's mom. Also when Jack said, "Dad doesn't have any friends," Jack's mom sneered, "Now why do you think that is?" So Jack did something to cause great shame to his father, or revealed some dirty secret about his father that would cause him to "go away." At the end of the episode, Jack tells the other castaways, "If we can't live together, we'll die alone." I think this is also a reference of what happened to him and his father. Anyways, just a few thoughts.   Top

Angelfood 2114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 10-21-04, 11:21 AM (EST) 8. "some more - boars & monster" safety: They've already had one "boar incident" on the beach - don't they have a night watch set up? how do they sleep peacefully? (i know, some of them don't). the "monster": they don't seem too worried or scared about it (or the boars for that matter). I know only a few people know about it. But that never stops them from going into the forest. my point is: Locke has seen it, not said anything, and keeps going into the forest. He doesn't seem very worried about running into it (again!). Is this a clue that the "monster" is benevolent? or at least, not a threat to their survival. maybe a help even. ?? Didn't Kate "see it" too? (thought i read that somewhere, didn't see the first few episodes). what was her reaction?   Top

Breezy 18380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-21-04, 12:41 PM (EST) 11. "Locke and monster" Last night Locke said he looked into the "eye?" I don't remember the exact term he used... anyhoo that he saw that the island was beautiful. I keep coming back to the island is purgatory and they all have to "come to jesus" in some sense before moving on either to be saved at some later date or to die on the island.   Top

motormouth 4507 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 10-22-04, 01:06 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Locke and monster" Purgatory could work, but then I wonder...where do the ones that died there go??? *Courtesy of IceCat*   Top

1derfool 185 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 10-22-04, 09:45 AM (EST) 16. "RE: Locke and monster" >Purgatory could work, but then I >wonder...where do the ones that >died there go??? > I've been thinking they're in 'limbo'... Nowhere Land. The polar opposite of the Bermuda Triangle. We've never really been told where they crashed, just somewhere in the S. Pacific, right? What if it's the southern counterpart of the Triangle? Would a line straight through the earth to the opposite side come out somewhere around there? Another idea I've been toying with... maybe Claire never does have her baby. On an island that houses impossible animals, the lame can walk, ghosts walk freely.... why not pregnancies that never finish? Imagine the suspense when they realize the 9-months pregnant woman has been here for 2 months now and is still pregnant, no sign of labour being imminent? What's our hero Doctor going to do... induce labour because she's overdue, or leave things alone as long as there's no problem since is nothing he can do if he screws up (no decision for Jack there, let nature take care of it).   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-24-04, 06:30 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Locke and monster" http://www.vortexmaps.com/htmla/deviltri.php   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-24-04, 08:54 AM (EST) 18. "I have one question..." I like this show but I have been so frustrated...is Jack the only person that can do anything? Like many of you have said, I would be there asking questions about water and food and what we were going to do next. Also, before the show premiered didn't I read somewhere that these people were stranded on an island that another plane had crashed there like 40 years earlier? Director of Public Relations for GAWKUR!   Top

Angelfood 2114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 10-24-04, 10:58 AM (EST) 19. "RE: I have one question..." Thank you!! apparently its either a plot device or all 45 are very passive.   Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-24-04, 02:54 PM (EST) 20. "RE: I have one question..." Or clones just walking around doing what someone tells them! Director of Public Relations for GAWKUR!   Top

buckeyegirl 5449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-26-04, 12:59 PM (EST) 23. "The Plane " In an earlier episode, they got a sos from another plane that crashed on the island on the transmitter, and one of them said that it had been transmitting for 16 years. A PhoenixMons Creation   Top

blacknwhitedog 6532 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-26-04, 01:29 PM (EST) 24. "RE: The Plane " They heard a distress call that had been broadcasting for 16 years (in French) but they do not know the source. It was never said that it was another plane crash. a Phoenix Mons creature   Top

dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-26-04, 02:52 PM (EST) 25. "RE: The Plane " http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?start=14&threadID=82952 annieville76 Re: What was the French Message? Posted: Oct 01, 2004 07:23 AM reply 11 Posts Registered: Sep 29, 2004 12:23 PM First, I'd like to say that I'm French-Canadian, French is really my first language, so I'm not making anything up. The message is pretty simple anyway, though it is hard to catch it all because of the characters arguing and the static on the receptor. Thanks to my VCR, here's what it said in French: "Il est dehors. Venez nous aider. Venez nous aider. Si qui que ce soit entend ceci, je vais essayer d’aller jusqu’au rocher noir. Venez nous aider. Ils sont tous morts, ils sont morts, Il les a tués, il les a tués tous. Je vais essayer d’aller jusqu’au rocher noir." Here's the translation in English: "He/it is outside. Come help us. Come help us. If anybody hears this, I am going to try to reach the black rock. Come help us. They are all dead, they are dead, He/it killed them, he/it killed them all. I am going to try to reach the black rock."   Top

tvhead 230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-26-04, 03:32 PM (EST) 26. "RE: The Plane " comment allay vous (sorry for spelling) merci beaucoups for the translation i am really scared now that i know what the message said. this show is great ---so many possibilities the writing is terrific and so are the actors--- i love charley. who doesn't??? this show leaves me wanting more........   Top

joannie 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-26-04, 06:13 PM (EST) 28. "RE: The Plane " I wonder what the black rock is. We'll have to keep our eyes peeled.   Top

joannie 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 10-29-04, 04:23 PM (EST) 30. "The black rock " I was thinking of the "black rock" when Jack pulled those two stones out of the bag, one black and one white. The French woman said she was going to try and "reach" the black rock. Maybe the black rock is not a place but a thing. I think those two stones hold some kind of magic powers.   Top

miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 10-25-04, 03:22 PM (EST) 22. "What's buggin' me..." Why, why why why is Jack's dad wearing running shoes??! Through 5 episodes I've learned that nothing is an accident on this show -- the tiniest detail will come back to mean something. So what's with the shoes? Any thoughts? I can't even come up with a WAG at this point! Handcrafted at the stroke of midnight by RollDdice   Top

tvhead 230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-26-04, 03:33 PM (EST) 27. "RE: What's buggin' me..." maybe because he "ran" away ????   Top

Angelfood 2114 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 10-26-04, 08:31 PM (EST) 29. "RE: What's buggin' me..." LOL!! there ya go. AF wondered the same thing   Top

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