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"American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Please keep all discussion of tonight's program in this thread until 12:00 AM EST.

Who will go home tonight? Who most benefitted from 'Elvis' night? Are theme weeks unfairly skewed in favor of male singers? We'll find out tonight, when the votes tell us whether we have an all-male Final 3 or whether Katherine survives another week.

I'll join you all after TAR. See ya then!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Is it just me? geekboy 05-10-06 1
   RE: Is it just me? CommHop 05-10-06 2
       RE: Is it just me? kathliam 05-10-06 3
           RE: Is it just me? cahaya 05-10-06 10
   RE: Is it just me? CommHop 05-10-06 4
   RE: Is it just me? cahaya 05-10-06 8
       RE: Is it just me? CommHop 05-10-06 11
   RE: Is it just me? geekboy 05-10-06 25
   RE: Is it just me? cgannon 05-11-06 67
 Ford commercial kathliam 05-10-06 5
 Priscilla geekboy 05-10-06 6
   RE: Priscilla sica077 05-10-06 43
       RE: Priscilla geekboy 05-10-06 47
           RE: Priscilla sica077 05-10-06 55
 Idol at Graceland kathliam 05-10-06 7
   RE: Idol at Graceland kathliam 05-10-06 9
 Lisa Marie geekboy 05-10-06 12
   RE: Lisa Marie thecrossbowkid 05-11-06 89
       RE: Lisa Marie geekboy 05-11-06 112
 Group Sing kathliam 05-10-06 13
   RE: Group Sing geekboy 05-10-06 15
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... cahaya 05-10-06 14
 And We're Back... kathliam 05-10-06 16
   RE: And We're Back... cahaya 05-10-06 17
   RE: And We're Back... geekboy 05-10-06 18
       RE: And We're Back... Glow 05-11-06 84
       RE: And We're Back... nailbone 05-11-06 97
           RE: And We're Back... Magnolia_Rocker 05-11-06 99
               RE: And We're Back... dragonflies 05-11-06 101
               RE: And We're Back... emydi 05-11-06 104
 Finally, Some Results kathliam 05-10-06 19
   RE: Finally, Some Results cahaya 05-10-06 20
   RE: Finally, Some Results Fishercat 05-10-06 21
       RE: Finally, Some Results emydi 05-10-06 34
           RE: Finally, Some Results Fishercat 05-10-06 44
               RE: Finally, Some Results emydi 05-10-06 45
                   RE: Finally, Some Results Glow 05-11-06 85
   RE: Finally, Some Results cahaya 05-10-06 22
 Boot: Chris bebekid 05-10-06 23
   RE: Boot: Chris brvnkrz 05-10-06 37
   RE: Boot: Chris aquariaqueen 05-11-06 68
 Seriously, Results This Time, I Swe... kathliam 05-10-06 24
   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... emydi 05-10-06 26
       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... arkiegrl 05-10-06 33
           RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... sica077 05-10-06 46
               RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... arkiegrl 05-10-06 52
       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... udg 05-10-06 58
   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... SeniorCitizen 05-10-06 27
       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... emydi 05-10-06 32
   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... eericarenee 05-10-06 28
   we're crying niteowl 05-10-06 29
       The best don't always win tenmeters 05-10-06 35
           RE: The best don't always win cgannon 05-11-06 71
   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... tarmaq 05-10-06 30
       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... ulalame 05-10-06 51
           RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... shanana banana 05-11-06 110
       Tarmaq, you're right! singer 05-11-06 88
   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... anotherkim 05-10-06 36
       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... tenmeters 05-10-06 41
           RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... anotherkim 05-10-06 49
               RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... ulalame 05-10-06 57
                   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... emydi 05-10-06 59
               RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... tenmeters 05-10-06 66
                   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... Irish Eyes 05-11-06 76
                   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... nailbone 05-11-06 86
                       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... CattyChat 05-11-06 90
                       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... tenmeters 05-11-06 113
       RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... Lisapooh 05-11-06 73
           RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... true 05-11-06 87
   RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I... cahaya 05-10-06 48
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... MandyM 05-10-06 31
   RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... tenmeters 05-10-06 39
       RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... anotherkim 05-10-06 50
           RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... tenmeters 05-10-06 65
           RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... tenmeters 05-11-06 75
               RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... Fishercat 05-11-06 77
               Disagree AyaK 05-11-06 105
                   RE: Disagree tenmeters 05-11-06 109
       RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... nailbone 05-11-06 95
           Disagree AyaK 05-11-06 106
               RE: Disagree emydi 05-11-06 107
               RE: Disagree nailbone 05-11-06 108
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... zazzy 05-10-06 40
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... agent210 05-10-06 42
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... shanana banana 05-10-06 53
   RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... nailbone 05-11-06 98
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... jen71 05-10-06 54
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... Fishercat 05-10-06 56
   RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... sica077 05-10-06 60
   RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... SeniorCitizen 05-10-06 61
       RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... nazpink 05-10-06 62
           RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... cgannon 05-11-06 70
       RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... EMTBGRL 05-10-06 63
           RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... cgannon 05-11-06 69
               RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... Tammster 05-11-06 78
           RE: Yeah Baby!!! the boring Chris g... bob_chester 05-11-06 79
           RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... BHoneycutt 05-11-06 80
               RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... SeniorCitizen 05-11-06 83
           RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... nailbone 05-11-06 100
   RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... CattyChat 05-11-06 96
 Elliot Sheila 05-10-06 64
   RE: Elliot EMTBGRL 05-11-06 72
   RE: Elliot tenmeters 05-11-06 74
       RE: Elliot KoalaChick 05-11-06 82
           RE: Elliot archon 05-11-06 92
   RE: Elliot tarmaq 05-11-06 81
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... geg6 05-11-06 91
   RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... Magnolia_Rocker 05-11-06 94
       RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... dragonflies 05-11-06 103
 RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... CattyChat 05-11-06 93
   RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Result... Tahj 05-11-06 102
 Results... Idol5Fan 05-11-06 111

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geekboy 1788 desperate attention whore postings
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05-10-06, 08:38 PM (EST)
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1. "Is it just me?"
Is it just me, or does anyone else have a bad feeling tonight that Chris may be leaving instead of Kat?

I can't explain it...just a bad feeling. I hope i'm wrong.

Also, next week is the Clive Davis week, where they sing 3 songs. One the contestants choice, one the judges choice, and one choice by Clive himself.

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2. "RE: Is it just me?"
I think Chris is safe tonight. Fingers crossed. Kat should go.
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05-10-06, 08:55 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Is it just me?"
Did I miss anything? Caught up on the TAR board.
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10. "RE: Is it just me?"
Saw that kathliam (although I swore not to venture into TAR Spoilers this season).

You are a mighty quick, alert commentator. Can't think of anyone else who gets it up so thoroughly and accurate so fast as you do. Excellent work!

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4. "RE: Is it just me?"
I'm at work. What's going on witht he show?
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8. "RE: Is it just me?"
I'd guess Kat.

Close call who's going up with her for the final call... I'd guess Elliot instead of Chris, but barely. Taylor is surely in; if they put Taylor with Kat and say 'one of these two is going home', we'll know who.

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11. "RE: Is it just me?"
I thought Elliot was way better than Chris was last night. I didn't care for Taylor's first song, but he was great on his second. I thought Chris was boring last night. Kat should go tonight in my book.
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25. "RE: Is it just me?"
My feeling was justified.

Chris in shock. Simon and Paula in shock.

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67. "RE: Is it just me?"
No it's not just you-this show needs help especially after tonight's results show - very disappointing!
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5. "Ford commercial"
This week, singing 'Wonderful World'. while driving a big-a$$ Ford hybrid truck. Katherine drives up the driveway, opens the garage which is full of carp, directs the guys to clean out the space so she can park in the garage.

Meh.

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6. "Priscilla"
That outfit is NOT flattering on Priscilla. She looks pregnant.

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43. "RE: Priscilla"
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-06 AT 10:03 PM (EST)

LOL...I thought she was pregnant! I never would have guessed she wasn't.

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47. "RE: Priscilla"
I don't know ... perhaps she is. I jsut assumed she was a bit old to have a baby. But what do i know... Either way, hte outfit was so not flattering.

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55. "RE: Priscilla"
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-06 AT 10:43 PM (EST)

Yeah, I guess she is 61! Well, I tried looking online for something that would say whether or not she is pregnant. All I found were a few (seemingly rumor-generated) articles claiming Priscilla is pregnant with Lisa's baby (because Lisa is on tour and can't afford to be pregnant and have to lose the baby weight). Hard to believe...but many boards are lighting up about Priscilla's bulging appearance. She did seem to be rubbing her belly here and there...like an expecting mother would do!

But 61....man! Now THAT would be one old mama! I don't believe it's Lisa's, but she did look big in only the belly area.

On another note, agreed: the outfit was bad.

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7. "Idol at Graceland"
Priscilla Presley takes the Idols on a tour of Graceland.

Wow, the woman has had a LOT of Botox, and untold amounts of collagen in her lips. Why, or why, did she feel any of that was necessary?

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9. "RE: Idol at Graceland"
Oh, Lisa shows up and takes them on a golf cart ride around Graceland and out into the street (and the fans).
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12. "Lisa Marie"
I've _always_ had a thing for her. She is so damn hot in a very very naughty way.

Glow can go *thud* for Chris. Lisa Marie makes me go *thud*, and then some...

geekboy

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89. "RE: Lisa Marie"
Hot? She married an insane, homosexual pedophile to further her nonexistant career. Pathetic is more like it.
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112. "RE: Lisa Marie"
Yeah, people do stupid things and make mistakes, especially those in the realm of celebrity. But, damn, she's still HOT.

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13. "Group Sing"
Medley of Elvis songs. Elliott starts with 'Teddy Bear', sounds amazingly like The King himself. Group sing 'Blue Suede Shoes'. Taylor, 'Heartbreak Hotel' solo. Katherine, 'Are You Lonesome' solo (she should have sung that last night, sounds nice). The guys join her on chorus. Chris, 'Love Me Tender' solo, others humming backup. Group sing, I should know the song title but don't. Taylor rocking out 'Burning Love', Katherine has a bridge, Elliott and Chris join.

Not bad. Enjoyable.

Okay, get on with it.

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15. "RE: Group Sing"
Kat should ahve done 'Lonesome' and 'Burning Love'.

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14. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
A miracle someone didn't fall down from that narrow platform while they were singing and dancing! Crowded up there.

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16. "And We're Back..."
20 minutes in and nothing except wasting time with Jerry O'Connell and Rebecca Romjain. Rebecca loved Taylor singing 'Jailhouse Rock', asks if he can sing it again. Nigel gives his approval. Taylor agrees to reprise his song.

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17. "RE: And We're Back..."
Just as good second time around.

A thought... Taylor dances more like Steve Martin than he does Elvis!

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18. "RE: And We're Back..."
Interesting "spontaneous" thing. I would not expect that to normally happen "spontaneously".

also, he did even better than last night on that song.

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84. "RE: And We're Back..."
uh yeah. Not to mention there was a microphone up there waiting for him. Real spontaneous, guys.
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97. "RE: And We're Back..."
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He BUTCHERED the lyrics!!! Nobody calls him on it, either (on here I mean). He pieced together several verses in the middle and then repeated some in the end.

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99. "RE: And We're Back..."
LOL! I was wondering if anyone else caught that cause the DH and I sure did. When he hit one of the verses that he spliced I was like...WTF was that?


Siggy thanks to Syren!

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101. "RE: And We're Back..."
Totally caught that. DH, who is a HUGE Elvis fan was going on and on about it.

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104. "RE: And We're Back..."
Nope, didn't even see it I saw the "spontaneous" request and I immediately flipped back to Lost came back for the ()&(^*^)* results tho...


Shocked, I say!

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19. "Finally, Some Results"
All four are brought to center stage. Left to right (looking at the screen), Taylor, Elliott, Chris, Katherine (Ryan in the middle). Ryan placed Elliott next to Taylor to his left, placed Chris and Katherine to his right. Boot reveal?
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20. "RE: Finally, Some Results"
Chris & Kat as the two to play the drumroll to wouldn't surprise me.

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21. "RE: Finally, Some Results"
Oh yes, oh yes. I am happy.
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34. "RE: Finally, Some Results"
you are evil my young friend
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I personally love it. Not so much because I don't like Chris' performances, just the idea that the line to kiss Chris' ##### was three judges long on a weekly basis as long as he didn't do hard rock. And some of the fans that aren't here are crazy too. Paula's reaction was priceless. Almost as good as the Constantine elimination.

My personal favorite topic title on the official forums?

"THIS IS THE NEXT SADDEST DAY AFTER 9/11"

Granted, the response by everyone was that this person needs a psychologist, but still.

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45. "RE: Finally, Some Results"
I can't wait to hear Chris do more hard rock..hopefully his Cd won't be American Idoled like I hear Bo's was...

Of all the contestants in all the years of the show, I love Chris the most..his type of music, his voice, his looks, his personality, his story...his everything...I'm going to really miss seeing him every week, it just came a few weeks before I thought it would...

Ok start making your CD NOW Chris..and I can NOT go to the AI tour...I couldn't stomach the other 8...maybe Bucky and Chris can come to Pittsburgh alone..whaddya think Glowie, geggy?

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85. "RE: Finally, Some Results"
A Bucky/Glowie/Chris sammich sounds lovely, yes.
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22. "RE: Finally, Some Results"
Chris goes! Wow. Announced almost as part of a run-on sentence, it came fast, and took a while to sink in.

Simon has that "hmmmm... dumb voters" look.

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23. "Boot: Chris"
Chris goes home.



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37. "RE: Boot: Chris"
*gasp* *Thud*
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68. "RE: Boot: Chris"
Chris left, I feel, due to complacancy of the voters. It's another example of thinking someone you like is safe since let's face it, he's been safe since he stepped into the audition room. He didn't get the votes.

People who wanted to make sure their person, whether deserving or not, stayed, voted.

Does it work out that the most talented stays? Not always.

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24. "Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
Who is bottom group, Taylor-Elliott or Chris-Katherine?

Taylor and Elliott are safe.

Chris and Katherine are bottom two.

Who goes home tonight? Ryan asks Simon who he thinks is going home, he says Katherine based on last night.

(Bear with me, I want to get this verbatim. *thud*)

Ryan tells Chris and Katherine a lot of people predicted both of them could be in the finale. A lot of people predicted Chris that you could be the next American Idol. *screams from audience*. Chris, you are going home tonight, the journey ends. America, you have spoken and Chris is off the show tonight.

Katherine is safe.

Simon looks stunned and pensive. *thud*

Chris is in shock, obligatory retrospective.

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26. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
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Ok that sucked...It reminds me of AI3 when Latoya was out at F4...

Glowie, you were right, I'm pissed off he didn't win..I wanted to just go thru my tv and hug him...

The only thing that makes it better is that he won't be so controlled on his CD

Ok Taylor can win now VFTW

Simon was right to be "pensive" he just lost a lot of money and he knows Chris is the best of the 4

Well I did what I could by voting this just really blows

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33. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
I am stunned. That totally bites like a big dog!
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46. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
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I am so bummed. I felt tears start to well up (I know, I am a little pathetic) when they showed Chris' face...he looked so sad! He better move on to bigger things...

Maybe he was just too good...

arghhhh

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52. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
You're not alone, I was thisclose to crying, too.
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58. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
I gasped out loud, I was so shocked. On one hand, I'm sure he'll do great no matter what, but... He really didn't deserve to go.
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27. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
Dialidol had them (Kat and Chris) practically neck and neck with Kat a little ahead of Chris. I had a theory about the text votes. I think young men are more likely to vote by text, and Katherine is probably a favorite with young men. It will be interesting to see how things break out now that Chris is leaving. Will Kat get Chris's voters, or will some of them resent her edging past him?
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32. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
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My votes...are staying with me no one else deserves them

Yeah, I'm taking my ball and going home

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28. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
i am so pissed about chris right now...
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29. "we're crying"
Wow, the american public sure made a mistake. My daughter and i cant believe it...we decided that if taylor and elliot are the top two then finals are going to be painful. We love Chris...but its possible he's better off not winning. If Kat leaves then we're not watching.
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35. "The best don't always win"
in fact, the winners of the past seasons were not the most talented. Include here the over-rated kelly Clarkson.

Tamyra was the best in season 1, Clay in 2, Latoya in 3, and nikko/jessica in 4.

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71. "RE: The best don't always win"
Any "Chris" in this season!
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30. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
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When are the judges going to learn NOT to try to manipulate the America public aka voters? I think that a lot of people felt Kat got an unfair deal last night. (How many would have been up in arms if they made each male contestant sing two Barbra Streisand songs?) And by the remarks the judges made, they put her in the "underdog" position. So here's what I think happened.

Chris seemed "untouchable" because he has been the judges #1 pick all along. Besides, he has struck quite a few as "boring" lately. So his votes declined overall. I think Elliot picked up quite a few of Chris' votes, because people thought he would need them more. And others responded to the fact that Kat was the "underdog," so to speak. We don't like people to be treated unfairly.

I actually voted for the first time this season, last night. For Kat. Maybe there were a lot of people like me.

I hope it comes down to her and Taylor in the finals. Elliot is just "meh" for me. Taylor's got personality, as well as a cool voice when he's on the right song. Kat's got - well - there's just something about her. Tommy Mottola saw it. Andrea Bocelli and David Foster saw it. (And Andrea is blind!) She's got something. Not to mention, she's a beautiful girl, which can't hurt.

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51. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
Here's the deal. Chris, Taylor *and* Elliot are all "niche" singers. Chris is a rocker, Elliot's a jazzy soulful singer, and Taylor is along the lines of the Grateful Dead. In addition, the looks of all three will appeal to only that niche market.

Kat is the classic "pop" singer -- she can sing in all genres, and has a look that appeals to all. I think she's going to win it all. The three guys might have good singing careers due to their exposure on AI, but Kat is the only one to please all markets.

I'm totally not surprised it was Chris who went tonight. Not everyone likes rock, especially as interpreted through Creed. That's not to say he's not talented, he just does not have enough diversity in his performances, or widespread appeal to attract the votes needed to win the show. He could've done the absolute BEST rock performance anyone'd ever seen week after week, and he'd still not win American Idol, because that's not what it's about. He should've gone on Rock Star.

I don't think Taylor has the universal appeal, either. I predict he'll go next week. Elliot's voice is amazing, if you close your eyes. I think he'll make the finals with Kat because his voice is universally* appealing, along with hers, and she will win. That's my prediction.

*Note special definition of "universal" -- universally appealing to those who will buy millions of the Idol winner's records.

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110. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
According to an article I read, Chris DID try out for Rock Star but did not make it, which is pretty astounding.

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88. "Tarmaq, you're right!"
I predicted a Kat/Taylor final a long time ago. Both of them are telegenic, and they are likeable. At this point, it doesn't matter who makes the final two, because all three of these folks are excellent in different ways.

I completely agree that Kat has something special (beyond a wonderful singing voice that is still developing). I can't quite figure out why, but she does.

But I absolutely love Taylor (because he's quirky), and I admire Elliott (because he's got a beautiful voice and a good personality).

--Singer

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36. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "

who the FVCK is voting for Elliott in such mass? I just do not see it? I thought he was terrible last night, no matter what the judges said--who would buy his album of those songs from last night? No one. He would tank. He's got absolutely NO camera presence.

Taylor has the same type of fanatical following that Clay Aiken did that I didn't understand--he will win it all, which is why I don't even take this show seriously, but Chris going out before Elliott is just insanity and reminds me once again (LaToya London from last year) why I shouldn't let myself care. I get pissed off every time.

Chris will have a contract and be laughing all the way to the bank. Tommy Mattola is probably salivating at the chance to sign him.

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41. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
elliot is not easy to look at but he is getting better every week.
and he is the most talented of the four. chris maybe just as good.
but kat and taylor are very inconsistent. they are often off.

no, i dont think motolla is salivating over cris. cris has nothing new to offer.how many more creed and nickelback do u need?

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49. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
yeah, I'm sure that if given the choice, record execs would leap at the chance to sign Elliott over Chris. sure they would.

Elliott has a lovely voice--for big band standards or a nice classics album or maybe some jazz or something. I don't really know because he makes me want to take a nap. He be a "good" singer, but he is snoozville as an entertainer. Elliott in a video? Elliott in concert? Elliott posters? *boggle* This is American IDOL, not America's Best Singer.

Elliott is no more consistent than Katherine. He was just crappy (albeit not as crappy as the others who were booted off) in the beginning and she's been stumbly at the end. He has YET to have a WOW performance a la her Black Horse and the Cherry Tree moment or show that he has any sort of personality. He'll have to break out with something ASAP or he's a goner next week because Katherine and God, help me, Taylor, will smoke him in that department.

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57. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
Without a doubt, Elliot and Kat are the most marketable by FAR of the bunch left. Taylor and Chris will only appeal to segments of the market at their best. Those who like Michael McDonald and Creed, respectively, will buy their records. That's not a negligible segment, but it's certainly NOT American Idol territory.

As to Elliot, while looks might matter if you are selling to the teen market, the adult and world market don't care. He's got a great voice, and will make awesome records.

And Kat, mark my words, Kat will be bigger than Kelly Clarkson. She has some MAJOR growing up to do, and needs some very good coaching and management, but I think she will end up being a star along the lines of Mariah or Whitney Houston. In fact, I think she will end up being the biggest star this show has produced.

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59. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
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the most marketable by FAR

Elliott and Kat BY FAR? I'd disagree I think Chris is the most marketable and he's no Creed (despite the fact that he sang one of their songs) and I mean that in a totally good way vis a vis Chris

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66. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
you're right. don't think elliot will win.

kat shoul win despite lack of talent. she is young and absolutely freaking gorgeous. many holywwod stars pale in comparison.

kat can be as successful as kelly and carrie.(the latter btw is just untalented as kat).

i'm not sure Kat's Black Horse.. was a wow performance. The song just sounded cool and different. but there was really nothing special about it.

as for taylor, he is too old or at least he looks too old to win. plus his voice is not strong enough.


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76. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
IMHO Katherine (reference the post below) looks like a young Jaclyn Smith (from back in Charlie's Angels days.) I personally feel she is immature, even by comparison to the younger girls, Paris and Lisa... and have to agree with Simon... of late she has been a bit "over the edge--trying just a little too hard... It isn't becoming to her. She's done that the last two or three weeks. It comes across sort of 'desperate'. I'm really sorry to see Chris was the one to go tonight. I feel it should have been Katherine... I don't think there was anyone MORE shocked than she was, because she knew she should be the one... after the performances she gavethis past Tuesday night.
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>kat shoul win despite lack of
>talent. she is young and
>absolutely freaking gorgeous. many holywwod
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86. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
kat shoul win despite lack of talent.

Lack of talent??? Kat??? I'd have to take the word of David Foster, Andrea Bocelli, etc. over anyone on these boards as far as who has or doesn't have talent, and they all raved about Kat.

You may not like her style/voice/whatever, but "lack of talent"? Please.

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And add Barry Manilow and Tommy Mattola to that list, Boner. The only contestant Mattola was "salivating" over was Kat -- all these people know what they are talking about and Kat has it all -- she needs a little more confidence, but she is going to be huge. Kat has more talent in her little finger than many others who have been on this show.

BTW -- This has been the gest F4 of all the seasons (and I say that even though I really don't enjoy Elliott's peformances)

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113. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
kat reminds me of jasmine,pretty but no talent.
just listen to her renditionns of against all odds and can't help falling in love and you'll agree.
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73. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
Well, me for one. I voted for Elliot all night last night. I think he deserves to be there and at this point deserves to win.

I don't think Chris should have gone tonight. I don't dislike him, but I'm not nearly as enamoured with him as so many people on here.

I was a huge Kat fan with Elliot as second, but as the competition has gone on, Elliot has totally grown on me and Kat has become more and more conscious of her appeal and lost that geeky funky thing that I liked.

I don't think Elliot took Chris's spot as far as people who deserve to be there. I think Taylor and Kat are both less deserving of a final spot than Elliot is.

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87. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
Me too, Pooh.

I agree with everything you said. I've voted exclusively for Elliot this season. (well, after Kevin left *snif*) It's not that I don't like the others, it's just that Elliot has something special, IMO, that motivates me to pick up the phone.

Go Elliot!

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48. "RE: Seriously, Results This Time, I Swear "
No surprise Simon has that look. Based purely on last night's performances, Simon was right, Kat should have been next out. However, it must have been hard for her to do male covers, so I'm glad to see her in the final three. Sad to see Chris go, though.

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31. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
I was shocked! Obviously Kat and Chris and the judges were too...wow! I thought for sure Kat was a goner.

It's been talked about before...this probably is better for Chris' future that he did not win. He'll be able to do his own stuff and not be as tied down. It's a good thing.


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39. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
based on AI history, the losers are always forgotten.

Look at latoya, tamyra, george huff, among others who could not get ahead despite great talents.

chris is likely to be forgotten too. wow, i'll miss his big behind.

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50. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"

Uh, some of those winners were rather forgotten as well--Rueben who? Fantsasia?

I think Clay Aiken and Bo Bice are quite happy that they lost. Jennifer Hudson, too, for that matter, now that's she's on the big screen with Beyonce and Fantasia is nothing but some afterthought.

George Huff sucked.

Chris will be fine.

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65. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
what about jasmine trias who is appearing with hilary duff in a movie about an all-female singing group?

she is not going to sing here, satisfied?

she'll play the drummer.

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75. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
sorry kim, it's too early to tell what will happen to fantasia or reuben. it took 4 years for kelly to resurface from her ai win.
who knows? it only takes one song.

so everybody including latoya, tamyra, even jasmine still has a shot at stardom.

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77. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Not quite.

Kelly Clarkson won American Idol on September 4th 2002.

Her debut album came out one month later, as the single "A Moment Like This" hit #1 extremely fast (#1 on both UK and US Charts). From 2003-2005, she had at least one Top 10 U.S. single annually.

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105. "Disagree"
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>sorry kim, it's too early to
>tell what will happen to
>fantasia or reuben. it took
>4 years for kelly to
>resurface from her ai win.

Kelly won AI 1 in the summer of 2002. Her first album (Thankful) went double platinum and was among the top 20 albums in 2003. Her second album (Breakaway) came out in 2004, has now sold about 5 million copies, far and away the largest of any ex-idol (Carrie's Some Hearts has just passed Clay's Measure of a Man for #2), and is still #30 after 75 weeks in the Billboard 200.

Where's the 4-year gap?

Reuben Studdard returned to his gospel roots for his second album. It had sales like a gospel album -- meaning that the AI "buzz" is gone. And Fantasia who?

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109. "RE: Disagree"
it may not be 4 years but sure, people thought at one time kelly was a goner. in fact, everybody thought clay was the most succesful AI alumnus ever.

things only changed after 'breakaway', a compilation of really disturbingly noisy and overly hyped songs. very unoriginal, too. they sound very christina and avril.
everybody should agree on this.

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95. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
George Huff has an album out right now, and is on a Gospel compilation album that's #3 on the Gospel chart.

Tamyra has a new album coming out, she's starring on Broadway, and is in a new movie coming out.

LaToya also has a new album coming out.

Josh Gracin and Miranda Lambert (who?) are both in the top 50 of the Country chart.

they may not be making the charts like Kelly and Carrie, but they aren't forgotten, any more than winners Ruben and Fantasia are forgotten, but not heard from mainstream.

Chris will be fine.

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106. "Disagree"
Josh Gracin and Miranda Lambert (who?) are both in the top 50 of the Country chart.

they may not be making the charts like Kelly and Carrie, but they aren't forgotten, any more than winners Ruben and Fantasia are forgotten, but not heard from mainstream.

Chris will be fine.

Miranda Lambert was on Nashville Star -- she turned out to be shockingly talented. "Shockingly," because she was billed as an 18-year-old actress on NS but turned out to be a gifted singer/songwriter (she wrote all the songs on her post-NS debut CD Kerosene). She's going to be a major star, but she has nothing to do with AI.

And she finished third on Nashville Star. By contrast...

Only 1 AI contestant who didn't finish in the top 2 has ever released a CD that went gold (sales of 500,000): Josh Gracin. His debut sold about 650,000.

Next best? Kimberley Locke, at just over 200,000, edging out ... William Hung.

Flops: Tamyra Gray, RJ Helton, George Huff, Jasmine Trias, Corey Clark, John Stevens.

Sorry, Chris, but it doesn't look good.

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107. "RE: Disagree"
Well maybe it's just because I like him so much and his style of music, but I think Chris has something intangible that the others did not...I'm hoping he beats these odds

He's getting offered a lead singer position with rock band on Extra...


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108. "RE: Disagree"
Miranda Lambert was on Nashville Star

That explains why I never heard of her before today.


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40. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
That was a weird show.

First, isn't it unprecedented to allow one of the four contestants to reprise his entire song in the results show--and to do it before the boot reveal (and not be the boot for the evening)?

(don't get me wrong here, I missed the beginning of last night's show and didn't see Taylor do that number last night; and what's more, I like Taylor! Just saying....it seems unprecedented....)


Next, what the heck? OMGoodness, Chris was the boot? Huh?

And talk about blown away! That was a rewind the tape moment.

Maybe the gap was sooo big there was no way to comfortably manipulate it?

Simon looked pissed! I need to rewatch the tape. Good office water cooler type of show, though. AI will get the big buzz they wanted, that's for sure.

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42. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
As I have said since season 1.. what the American public LIKES and MISTAKES FOR TALENT has nothing to do with people who actually have talent

Chris didnt deserve to go.. the girl needed to go and should have been voted off 2 or 3 weeks ago

but clearly a pretty face and boobs are enough for people to keep her in.. she isnt stupid like Pickler so that also helped..

I hope Chris has good representation and he gets the chance to make a record and laugh all the way to the bank..

I hope the winner is Elliot but I have become so disinterested this season.. think the talent not as good as previous and the themes have really SUCKED!!!

we will miss you Chris and go make a million bucks for your wife and kids!!

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53. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
god, why do I bother with this stupid freaking show!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, yes, I'm pissed. I liked the final four, but Chris is the only one who stood out as The American Idol of this year and I certainly don't see the other three stepping up. I hate these boots of good contestants after one bad voting week -- when will AI do something to fix that?? It sucks. I almost really could care less who wins now, as I don't see the final three doing anything interesting or noteworthy.

What a major, major disappointment. I think a rocker will never win this show. Sure, they'll be another one next year, but really, will they come up with someone stronger, better than Chris? Highly doubtful.

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98. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
when will AI do something to fix that??

The only thing AI can do to "fix that" and make this a legitimate vote reflecting the true popularity of these contestants is to make it a one person/one vote deal. That would eliminate the Soul Patrols and Claymates hitting redial for two hours, and VFTW and DialIdols. If everyone had one vote, for their favorite only, then the true most popular contestants would advance. Not necessarily the most talented, but the most popular.

But TPTB like to say "426 million votes" every week, so it'll never be "fixed".

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54. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
I'm surprised that Chris was sent home tonight. His voice has a really pleasant sound which is easier to tell when he sings like he did last night rather than in his normal modern rock style (which I also liked most of the time). He is definitely the best performer out of the bunch and probably the one most likely to catch on with fans. Of course, with his style of music, he'd be in a band that would be writing their own songs and would NOT be on a "talent" show.

I really like Katharine's voice, but I did not like a few of her performances. She needs to stay away from the Mariah Carey - Christina Aquilera type of singing (which I personally can not stand) and instead do something like she did the country week or the current charts (both great performances) or when she sang "Come Rain or Come Shine" and "Until You Come Back To Me" (also great performances).

Taylor and Elliott sound decent to me a lot of the time, but I can not imagine what type of songs they would be selling or who would be willing to buy them.

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56. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Awesome, awesome TV night. My least favorite TAR team went home, the AI elimination made the moron fans (note: we actually have good ones here) go crazy and made me happy, and Lost gave me 20923 more questions!

Fishercat Victory!

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60. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Fishercat, I agree with you on every thing you said --

except for being happy about AI elimination That is something I am very UNhappy about. In any case, still awesome TV tonight.

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61. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
If you are good AI gives you a showcase that could pump a career. I've heard it said that Paris and Kelly will have safe harbor if they get good advice and play their cards right. Chris should do well enough. Of the three remaining, Elliot probably needs the title most. He has a nice voice, displayed better than previously in his brief part tonight. His hair and stage presence have definately improved, but he still needs a lot of coaching to polish him for a career. Katherine has overcome her 'chubby girl' body shame and has the family support and public appreciation to leave now if it had been called that way, but I think she could benefit from being handled as AI. Taylor will probably go to the end, but I doubt it will do him as much good as either of the other two.
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62. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Wow, my jaw literally hit the floor. I still can't believe that Chris is the one who got booted!!!!! But hey all he needed was the exposure, I expect to see him soon and he will probably have a far better career this way than being the winner of AI.
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70. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
I agree - we will see him - he is a star and has the best voice in American Idol history! Way to go, Chris! Good for you!!!!
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63. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
OK. The final four.

I was in shock that Chris Daughtry was voted off. He didn't deserve that--tonight. I thought Tuesday's performances were kinda boring, but not the worst. Since he was voted off, I guess there's not a lot to say---Rockers seem to get a raw deal on the show. -- Daughtry was both true to himself and struck me as one-dimensional (mostly) as an artist. He had some good nights. Most of them. But, if a viewer wasn't into the whole "Rocker Thing" they weren't voting for Daughtry. That was both his strength and his weakness.

Katherine McPhee. Sorry, Simon was correct. Her first song did come off like a spastic, shrieky Grease-revival performance, complete with Elvis impersonations. She isn't Taylor Hicks and should not have tried to act like it. And, who didn't want to be able to sweep her hair AWAY from her face? McPhee's second song? She forgot the lyrics, and tried to cover it by singing to the back of the stage. Terrible! The snafu was obvious. At this point in the competition? Unexcuseable. That's not the same as being forced to sing lyrics from a famous man. I don't see this as "underdog" I see it as "underwhelmed." I didn't vote for her. McPhee should have been voted off based on Tuesday's performance. I think she believed that, too, based on her surprised look when Daughtry was announced as the one going home. I think she should be thanking her lucky stars! She really needs to step it up next week. Kat the WORDS *are* important, too. I have definitely lost a lot of the McPheever. She will have to do A LOT to impress me Tuesday night. (But, hey, she got to pat Kermit-The-Frog on the head!)

Elliott Yamin is no "looker." The Tracy Gold aka "The Radio Chick" (DJ) referred to Yamin as "Ugly as a Lemon Shark, but a Lemon Shark that can sing." I agree with the DJ. If you don't LOOK at Yamin, he CAN sing. He does not LOOK like "An American Idol." Then again, that's part of his charm, too. I mean, C'mon, do we want our next AI to look like Priscilla Presley, the prettiest mannikin around? I know I don't.

Taylor Hicks---Jailhouse Rock was a risk. It's one of Elvis Presley's signature songs. Since Taylor has established himself as a goofball, he could get away with the gyrations and signature spazzing without seeming fake or forced. It was not my favorite song from Hicks, but I still felt he topped McPhee. "In the Ghetto" (Elvis, 1969) is not a song that I like. I can't help hearing Eric Cartman from South Park singing it. However, in truth, I would have found that song more disturbing sang by anyone but Hicks. As far as Hicks singing "Jailhouse Rock" again tonight? I thought that was weird. But, then again, Jeri Ryan asked Reeaaall nice-like. (Maybe they didn't want Seacrest to talk more than he had to??) --Like Elliott, Taylor Hicks does not have the American-pieish good looks. Also like Elliott, that's part of what makes Taylor Hicks endearing. Most Americans ARE average looking. I admire that Hicks never "washed the gray out" either. I don't think that Taylor Hicks has had the best voice overall throughout the performance. But, I was not surprised that he wasn't in the bottom two this week. He did OK first song, and as well as someone can sing "In the Ghetto" (I am not a fan of the lyrics)

I am stumped at this point..I had predicted McPhee going home. Now?? imho anybody's guess...I don't have a clear prediction for a winner at this time.


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69. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Chris deserves to be the winner! He was the best and didn't deserve to go..... I don't even want to watch the show anymore!!!
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78. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Chris was my reason for watching the show..someone who never wavered from the beginning he went in as a rocker and left as a rocker thats just they style he is. He will get a contract offer,more than 1 im sure. He will fullfill his dream and I for one will be there to buy his CD when it comes out as will alot of other people I know. He might be gone from AI but definately NOT forgotten
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79. "RE: Yeah Baby!!! the boring Chris got voted off finally"
All I got to say is about time Chris got voted off. He has not done anything worth watching for weeks and weeks. I am looking forward to all the whining on this board about how great he was.
Thank you America! Glad he is gone! Bye bye Chris!
I will have a beer or 2 in celebration!
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80. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
EMTBGRL~ I agree with mostly everything you said except for one minor thing, which doesn't make a lick of a difference anyway, but that was Rebecca Romijn "used to be Stamos, soon-to-be O'Connell" who asked real nice like for Taylor's reprise.

I MISS CHRIS!!!

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83. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
I started watching AI for the first time this year for a really miserable reason: trainwrecks. The trainwreck scene in "The Fugitive" led me to buy a really big TV. After the deliberate exploitation of various human trainwrecks during the audition weeks I found myself watching the show because of the talent in the final 12. They all had something going for them and I felt bad with every young hopeful who got their walking papers. Then came tonight and the massive trainwreck caused by the reaction of Chris fans on various boards. Somebody actually said it was the worst disaster since 9-11. This means they thought it was worse than the Indonesian tsunami and hurricane Katrina. I felt bad to see Chris go, but I felt worse to see the violent reactions of his supporters. The fans of Katherine McPhee got sore fingers from texting. They are organized in an almost military fashion to make sure she gets as many votes as possible. Jewish rabbis are sending out the message to support Elliot and Taylor has a massive and dedicated fan base. It comes down to numbers. For those Daughtry fans who threaten legal action, petitions, boycotts, etc. I can only hope they put their vigor toward supporting his career once the circus has ended. Please remember, this is an entertainment program, not death and destruction and blasted hopes.
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100. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
LAST EDITED ON 05-11-06 AT 10:13 AM (EST)

McPhee's second song? She forgot the lyrics, and tried to cover it by singing to the back of the stage.

It was the FIRST song that she forgot the lyrics,in the transition between "Hound Dog" and "All Shook Up".

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96. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
"Awesome, awesome TV night. My least favorite TAR team went home, the AI elimination . . . and Lost gave me 20923 more questions! Fishercat Victory!

I'm with you 100% and I also wanted to add an "explosive" Top Chef Reunion special last night, made one heck of a Wed TV night!

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64. "Elliot"
After watching both shows this week, I get the distinct impression that Elliott is being pimped by the judges, the cameras, the musical numbers, etc.

The judges gushed over both of his performances last night. I assumed that the judges and I were watching different performances because there was really nothing THAT outstanding from Elliot last night. As for tonight, I thought he had quite a solo with the group song. Even when one of the other contestants was singing, the camera was on Elliot at times.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Elliot win this thing after tonight's show. I think the judges know just what to say to influence the voters.

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72. "RE: Elliot"
>I wouldn't be surprised to see
>Elliot win this thing after
>tonight's show.

I think this might be correct. --

I think
>the judges know just what
>to say to influence the
>voters.

Sometimes that seems to go the other way. Hard to know.

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74. "RE: Elliot"
sorry elliot won't win. ai wants a winner who is marketable. elliot is not.
ai producers will manipulate the votes so elliot doesnt win.
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82. "RE: Elliot"
wow, ten, you give them a lot of credit...to be able to mind control all of America. Their comments only go so far, as proven by tonight's elimination of Chris. Elliott deserves all that's coming to him...he's an amazing talent.
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92. "RE: Elliot"
Actually Koala, the mind control works pretty well. Not so great last night, but overall, the producers/judges can "swing" a veiwers perception a bit.

Better spot to sing in...
Better mood lighting for the song...
Perhaps an on-stage musician (or two...)
Better song choice...
Better comments by the judges...
Keeping the phone lines open for "at least" 2 hours...

All in all -- they are pretty good with the mind control -- they have had 4 previous seasons to perfect it...

I do not think Elliot will win. And please -- nobody take this the wrong way -- but I cannot see his picture on a 70 foot billboard in Times Square. Sorry -- just cant. Katherine? No problem... Even Taylor has a more "physical" appeal.

Last night reminded me of same week in AI1 where Tamayra Grey (sp?) was booted on the night that Nikki McNuggets should have EASILY been booted.

It sucks... but then, it does sell alot of Coke, doesnt it?

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81. "RE: Elliot"
If they REALLY knew what to say to influence the voters, Kat would be gone.

Lots of people are whining that "the rocker" didn't make it.

Pop has a broader appeal. That Creed song - the one with five notes and about as many words - creeped me out!

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91. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
All I can say is...

I've just gotten back hours of my life during the evening hours for the next couple weeks.

And now I can concentrate on getting ready for the real talent that will be on display for Rockstar: Supernova.


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94. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
I feel exactly the same way Geg. I looked over at the DH last night once it was announced that Chris was booted and said, "So dear, what are we gonna watch on Tues. and Wed. nights now?" I honestly have no desire to see the rest of the season. I might keep my DVR set on it and skim it but I'll not sit through it live any longer.
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103. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
At the beginning of the season I said I wouldn't watch it, but talking with you peeps here and a few IRL sucked me in. Now I'm stuck, cause DH & DS love Kat.
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93. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
LAST EDITED ON 05-11-06 AT 08:47 AM (EST)

Even though I kinda knew it was coming last night, my jaw hit the floor. Chris was one of my 4 faves and started at the very very top. I'm sorry to see him go, but I really think it's MUCH better for him to be out now than winning or runner up. Chris would have been forced to put out a record of AI & Cowell's choosing rather than more what he wants to do & he would've been frustrated -- (One needs only look at Kelly Clarkson to see what could have happened with Chris -- while Kelly needed to win AI to start her career & her first album with AI was successful, Kelly is MUCH HAPPIER since she has been cut loose and found even more success with her second album and having much more control over it.) We haven't seen the last of Chris & I take solace in knowing this is really better for Chris (which is why I hadn't been voting for him the last 3 weeks, though I really like him).

The look on Simon's face was P.R.I.C.E.L.E.S.S. Simon really thought he was going to run Chris's career and that was snatched from him. I really like Simon, but I don't think his management would have been good for Chris. I felt bad for Chris looking at his dumbfounded expression -- he truly looked heartbroken -- but I'm sure he had some calls last night & realizes he is better off.

My theories why Chris didn't win?

Number 1 -- While many of us on these boards love Chris's sound, it really is a smaller overall market in the U.S. Many people are not fans of Chris's genre. All 4 are really talented (even though I am not an Elliott fan) and they all deserve to win & all 4 appeal to different markets.

Number 2 -- Chris really has played it safe and has been coasting the entire show. Elliott came from behind and has been improving each week & has been pimped by the judges BIG time for a few weeks now . . . Simon's comment Tue night, IMO, was a lecture to the voters: "Elliott, you DESERVE to be in the semifinals." While that doesn't make me vote for Elliott many people will be persuaded by that. Kat has been overly criticized by the judges and getting sympathy votes (she is seriously talented, though) and she's the only girl left -- that helped keep her in.

Number 3 -- Chris has been expected to win since the beginning and people felt he was "safe" (I sure did). Thus less votes while people spent more time on who they thought "needed" their votes.

Number 4 -- I think many people (like me) thought Chris would do better by NOT winning and let up on their voting. (See above.)

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102. "RE: American Idol 5: Final 4 Results Show 5/10/06"
Kat has been overly criticized by the judges and getting sympathy votes (she is seriously talented, though) and she's the only girl left -- that helped keep her in.

IMO I think this is the major reason Chris lost. I think the unfair criticism of Katherine on her first song prompted people who don't normally vote to vote for her. I taped it and when I heard the criticism of Kat I picked up the phone to vote for her but I was too late, the voting had closed.

I'd like to add that I'm NOT a huge fan of hers even though I think she is very talented. I just reacted to what the judges said and I was ready to vote for her as many times as I could. I think a lot of people did that.



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111. "Results..."
The real reason the US government is monitoring America's phone calls is so that they can get American Idol results before anybody else!
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