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"SurvivorBlowsTribe, It's Time To Vote............."
Howdy Kids! Seems like so long ago since I've seen you...*sigh*...

Are you feeling spoilery? Are ya? You think you know who's going don't you? WELL YOU DON'T! STOP FOOLING YOURSELVES! BURNETT HAS YOU ALL STUMPED! Muwaaa haa haa haa!

*The proceeding message was brought to you in part by the good folks at CBS*

Sorry guys, I needed the money so..so I offered to give CBS some advertising space. I feel...so....dirty. *sob*

How 'bout some rules?

1. REPLY TO THIS POST ONLY!


2. This is not a discussion thread. Do not treat it as such!


3. Put the name of your choice for this weeks Bootee in the Subject Heading!


4. Everyone must thank Dave for his excellent Summary of Episode 7.

I've already thanked him in private..ifyaknowwhatImean.

....And as always, HAPPY VOTING!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Brandon I_AM_HE 12-04-01 1
 Kim spacey 12-04-01 2
 Teresa red 12-04-01 3
   BIG TOM MikeD 12-04-01 5
 Frank Survivor Maniac 12-04-01 4
 Teresa drich61 12-04-01 6
   FRANK Rose Red 12-04-01 7
 Frank coolbeans56 12-04-01 8
 Brandon ItzLisa 12-04-01 9
 Teresa............. Serendipity 12-04-01 10
 Frank bergdogg 12-04-01 11
 Frank Naked 12-04-01 12
 RE: SurvivorBlowsTribe, It's Time ... coupland 12-04-01 13
 Brandon kuchakor 12-05-01 14
 Frank mockingbird 12-05-01 15
 Frank Sexy Spearchucker 12-05-01 16
 Frank pirategrrl 12-05-01 17
 Brandon tribephyl 12-05-01 18
 Teresa Krautboy 12-05-01 19
 RE: SurvivorBlowsTribe, It's Time ... Bobbystareyes 12-05-01 20
 Frank Slymmer 12-05-01 21
 Lex VampKira 12-05-01 22
 Little Bit Kim PepeLePew13 12-05-01 23
 frank mindysue 12-05-01 24
 Teresa diamond 12-05-01 25
 Lex Cin 12-05-01 26
 Frank mookiemeister 12-05-01 27
 T-Bird Wicked 12-05-01 28
 Frank PagongRatEater 12-05-01 29
 Teresa weltek 12-05-01 30
 Teresa Bebo 12-05-01 31
 Frank esquire 12-05-01 32
 Teresa wendyp 12-05-01 33
 Vote Total So Far... AyaK 12-05-01 34
 Frank moonbaby 12-05-01 35
 Theresa MakeItStop 12-05-01 36
 Frank Splendora 12-05-01 37
 theresa vulcan 12-05-01 38
 Teresa............. MDSkinner 12-05-01 39
 Brandon LionChow 12-05-01 40
 Theresa NightScribe 12-05-01 41
 Teresa George Tirebiter 12-05-01 42
 Brandon dabo 12-05-01 43
 Teresea 5Foot3 12-05-01 44
 Kelly Pinky and the Brain 12-05-01 45
 re: teresa chaddo22 12-05-01 46
 Teresa jtmorgan61 12-05-01 47
 Teresa TheWanderer 12-05-01 48
 Teresa Swami 12-05-01 49
 Teresa girlb4amirror 12-05-01 50
 Frank soulSurvivor_23 12-05-01 51
 Frank SURVIVOR_BORAN 12-05-01 52
 Teresa FFantasyFX 12-05-01 53
 Teresa Amily 12-05-01 54
 Vote total so far... AyaK 12-05-01 55
 Frank BaquaR13 12-06-01 56
 Lex Vercisor 12-06-01 57
 Frank LowRent 12-06-01 58
 Frank Loree 12-06-01 59
 Teresa 40thandUp 12-06-01 60
 Teresa anotherkim 12-06-01 61
 Teresa zzz 12-06-01 62
 Teresa dangerkitty 12-06-01 63
 RE: Ethan janisella 12-06-01 64
 Frank AyaK 12-06-01 65
 Teresa shanana banana 12-06-01 66
   Teresa The Great Whamimi 12-06-01 67
 Lex Kismet 12-06-01 68
 Frank travelingbetty 12-06-01 69
 Frank scante60a 12-06-01 70
 Teresa Outfrontgirl 12-06-01 71
 Frank zandi 12-06-01 72
 Frank sleeeve 12-06-01 73
 Teresa s_man 12-06-01 74
 Vote Total So Far... AyaK 12-06-01 75
 Frank bondt007 12-06-01 76
   Teresa tackysue 12-06-01 78
 Lex BrykMantra 12-06-01 79
 Are you all on dope??? It's BRANDO... UltMale 12-06-01 80
 Teresa Lisapooh 12-06-01 81
 Lex Jizzy 12-06-01 82
 The FRANKazoid dangerboy 12-06-01 83
 Teresa FesterFan1 12-06-01 84
 Frank true 12-06-01 85
 Teresa IceCat 12-06-01 86
 Brandon Mumbo Jumbo 12-06-01 87
 Teresa SurvivorBlows 12-06-01 88
 Teresa jayseae 12-06-01 89
 Frankie goes to jury ...... katem 12-06-01 90
 Vote Totals So Far... AyaK 12-06-01 91
 Lex Round Robin 12-06-01 92
 Teresa Rain Crow 12-06-01 93
 Frank Blueville 12-06-01 94
 FRANK..... Dalton 12-06-01 95
 Teresa twentyfourseven 12-06-01 96
 Frank flying squirrel 12-06-01 97
 FINAL Vote Totals AyaK 12-06-01 98

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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings
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12-04-01, 08:13 PM (EST)
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1. "Brandon"
at least I hope, but Frank or T-bird is probably more realistic

and thanks Dave

UBER-SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!

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2. "Kim"
MamaKim or Little Kim does it really matter? Both
add absolutely nothing to the show.
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3. "Teresa"
Just seems like the smartest vote for Boran right now.
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5. "BIG TOM"
thanks dave
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4. "Frank"
LAST EDITED ON 12-04-01 AT 09:07 PM (EST)

He doesn't seem to have much of a story line any more. But, it could be Brandon or Teresa.
Thanks Dave!

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6. "Teresa"
Would rather it were Frank or Lex, but I think it will be Teresa.
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7. "FRANK"
Frank will go because Ethan, who is the hidden, Tina-like mastermind, will want him to go, and he, plus Kelly and Mamakim will vote him off. Ethan will see Frank, a strong athletic type, as his "Biggest threat."
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8. "Frank"
It will go 4-4-1 With Kelly Voting Lex (Hey, its my fantasy...)

Revote, Frank gets ousted

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9. "Brandon"
Now that they've merged, Frank and Teresa will work on everyone else to get rid of him. And he's not very well liked anyway, other than by Lil Kim, so it won't be hard for Frank and T to persuade the others.

Alternate pick - Lex. He may get domineering enough that the others decide to nip him in the bud.

DAAAAVEEE!!! Slammin' summary there, bud!

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10. "Teresa............."

Thank you, David.

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11. "Frank"
MB can't hide him from this vote!!!!!

My alternate pic is the T-bird.

Thanks Dave great summary (even though I had no time to read it over these past two weeks)

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12. "Frank"
Only immunity will save him at this point...
Alternate pick is Theresa. The SamByeByes are going, going gone...
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13. "RE: SurvivorBlowsTribe, It's Time To Vote............."
first choice : Lex
second choice? : Frank
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14. "Brandon"
Well, I'm going by logic. I think Kim wins the reward challenge and picks Brandon to go with her to do whatever the reward is, because CBS hinted that it is a double winner reward, and then they do some sort of cultural thing, which explains the writings on Brandon's arm at the IC challenge. Lex wins immunity...his skull torch had the idol around it, I don't think Mark Burnett has the time of day to sit around and screw with our minds with all these complex situations, everything in the past two Survivors have been mostly based on logic. Anyways, Brandon gone because of work ethic, past alliances, current alliances, sexuality (Tom, Frank, Lex may vote against him because he is gay), and perhaps the fact that he wins the reward challenge and may be a danger for future challenges with that energy and the stored up energy from not working as much as some. Although this one is pretty logical, Brandon and Kim will throw their votes at Frank, helping out Tom some in the fact that he won't lose to Frank in a deadlock unless Frank can beat him in questions....if that even matters anymore now that Boran is together.
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15. "Frank"
Outnumbered at this point.
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16. "Frank"
Frank is the biggest threat now in IM's, so the Ethan-led Boran's give him the boot.

I'd rather see Brandi go. NOBODY likes an arrogant fag.

Sexy Spearchucker

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17. "Frank"
an obvious choice IMO. Too much face time, too little story left.
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18. "Brandon"

I only hope hope hope it is Lex who is my first pick as far as my heart is concerned...BUT..My brain is saying Brandi.
...But Lex is not far behind. Maybe Ep.9 just in time for dinner and betrayal.

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19. "Teresa"
Game Logic:

The Boran had a clear 6-4 advantage at the merge, and an alliance strong enough to vote out one of their own. The remaining five Boran would not have risked going down to a 5-4 advantage had they felt there was any chance of one of them switching over and voting with the Samburu this week. Had there been any doubt, Frank would have been voted out instead, making it 6-3. The original Boran will vote out a Samburu…

Of the four remaining Samburu, game logic suggests that Frank or Teresa are currently the greatest threats and therefore, the logical targets this week. Teresa showed everyone that while Frank may be stronger, he is not the only immunity threat.

Teresa is well liked by the original Samburu and the women of Boran. Frank on the other hand, is more of a loner. Therefore, Teresa is much more likely to organize a counter-alliance, and in turn a much greater threat than Frank. Frank works hard, gathers wood, doesn’t appear to be forming any threatening alliances and is not a threat to win votes in a final 2 situation. Game logic says Teresa goes before Frank…

Overlap at the Lodge:

Lindsey and Clarence were the last two pre-jury members to be voted off. Both were reported to have been hospitalized after they left the game. If the Safari group had to wait a few days for Lindsey and Clarence to recuperate before departing, there would have been time for the first jury member, and those previously voted off, to overlap at the Lodge! Diane may have had a few days to get to know Teresa after all, and Carl’s comments about sharing “sleeping accommodations” may have been referring to the Lodge? Diane’s list is still intact, and only Teresa is missing! Diane probably got to know Teresa at the lodge, waiting for Clarence and Lindsey to return from the hospital. Teresa completes “ Diane’s list” after all…

Clarence’s Comments:

Clarence said that Brandon’s “fortunes come from his weakness”. Since we have not seen any of Brandon’s good fortune yet, Brandon is probably safe this week…

CBS Poll :

The CBS Survivor site poll this week asks “Who is most likely to be voted out sooner?” Lex, Brandon, or Frank. The poll does not ask who will be voted out this week, and it does not include Teresa. It is a “red herring” intended to lead viewers away from Teresa…

Hidden by the editing:

MB tried to hide the strong Boran 5 alliance, by editing to emphasize Kelly’s dislike for Lex and MamaKim not liking to be “told what to do” by him, regarding the vote for Clarence. The “witch hunt” has been exaggerated to create drama where there is none, and to introduce a new villan. The audience is led to believe that the Samburu may be able to create a counter attack, led by Teresa, at TC this week, but in the end it will fall short.(“ An original Samburu works to pull over an original Boran to their side; the Boran tribe member shows interest.”) When last weeks heroine burns at the stake, because of Lex’s witch hunt, we will cry out for revenge, which we will get when Lex’s alliance starts to fall apart…

MB has gone out of his way to edit Frank as a loner and outcast. Insider clips and comments by Brandon and Clarence seem to contadict the image MB has painted during the last episode and the recap show. Frank is not a threat at this point in the game.

MB knows who won immunity. That person has been edited as a target to increase the drama and suspense of the immunity challenge. Lex has been edited as the villan, Frank as the outcast, and Teresa as the target of the witchhunt. The immunity torch seems to be too obvious a clue for MB to give hand us in the previews. It is most likely another red herring, hiding the fact that Frank wins immunity this week…

Weight Loss:

Frank and Tom were also reported to have significant weight loss, for what it’s worth.

Dinner, Movie and Betrayal:

With Teresa gone, the Samburu with no votes, and Lex the villan and Tom with previous votes, the stage will be set for Kelly (or Mamakim) to switch sides next week in the “betrayal” episode. As long as Teresa was there, Kelly would have been the fifth wheel. But once shes gone, Kelly, with Frank the loner/outcast, is assured final 3 and maybe Final 2! Much better than she would have gotten from “the boys”. With Teresa gone the betrayal makes sense…

Goodbye Teresa…


Krautboy

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20. "RE: SurvivorBlowsTribe, It's Time To Vote............."
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-01 AT 04:21 PM (EST)

Teresa....its time for you to go.



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21. "Frank"
If Life is but a Dream, what happens when we wake up?
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22. "Lex"
Yeah.. I know this isn't the popular vote, and I have no reason other than what I saw on the perviews for this week.

I mean, If I was there and heard ole Lex goin' off the deep end with those threats.. He'd be the logical boot to me. Crazy fu.ker!

ALT: Freaky Frank

*smooches Dave for the rockin' summary!*


*wink*

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23. "Little Bit Kim"
She needs a vote on here to feel included, plus my PTTE says so (which was compiled a long time ago), plus I'm wrong on this vote thread more often than I'm right so a better chance for Kim P. to stick around longer (my Clarence pick last time notwithstanding).

Here's how Kim P can go this week... she wins RC with an athletic performance to expose herself as a threat, takes Brandon with her, people talk about her performance and decide she's a threat, Frank wins immunity, L/E/T decide they rather have Teresa with them than Kim P, and Kim P becomes Little Bit(ch) with her attitude after winning RC. Ciao Kim P.

Nahhhh... Teresa is the alternate pick to satisfy the spoilers of Diane's Friends and Linz/Clarence's illnesses delaying the safari.


"Damn you, Carl, for leaving me here with a bunch of misfits."
Frank Garrison, Nov. 1/01

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Frank I guess????
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25. "Teresa"
I really have no idea. There are a bunch of people who could go and it wouldn't surprise me, but I can't convince myself that any one is more likely than any other. So I'll just guess Teresa.
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26. "Lex"
Here's hoping........

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27. "Frank"
I think the 5 ex-original-Borans will vote together this week. They can't afford to kick out a Boran yet because both Tom and Lex have previous vote and would loose tie-break in the following week, otherwise. Of the ex-original-Samburu, it's a toss up between Frank and Terasa as to who goes. I'm guessing Frank because he's more of a loner so might not have bonded with enough ex-original-Borans to influence their vote away from him.
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28. "T-Bird"
T-Bird or Frank will go.

My prediction is that Boran will hold until only two Samboohoo are left. They will want to eliminate the biggest threat. T-Bird will scare them by (a) winning immunity last time and (b) actively trying to peel off a Boran voter.

Frank is the only other threat. Brandon and Lil Bit will not be percieved as anything remotely resembling a threat.

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29. "Frank"
Back-up pick Brandon. I think all of this supposed tension about the ex-Boran alliance being in trouble is all the proof I need that a Samburu will be next.
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30. "Teresa"
Game logic says Frank (I think his story is over, seen as outsider and possible threat), but...spoiler material seems to point at Teresa:

Diane's friends
Carl's "accomodations" comment
1 truth, 1 lie in previews (Lex's witchhunt - "smoke them out", and old Samburu getting old Boran over to their side)
Hospital stays may delay safari, allowing Teresa to go

Now, I had a problem envisioning Lex being able to convince others to vote for her just on the basis that she is an immunity threat. One challenge win doesn't convince me she's a big threat. On the other hand, he could use the "Tina Argument" (Tina won it all, and Teresa has that same potential. And they'd all probably like her on a jury). I guess if I were in the game, that would possibly sway my vote.


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31. "Teresa"
LAST EDITED ON 12-05-01 AT 11:53 AM (EST)

Alternate pick: Frank

Thanks, Dave.

Why: Krautboy has an excellent analysis. I agree that it would be a logical end to "Diane's friends" list. I also believe that the preview told us a lie and a truth. The lie -- that the Samburu would convince a Boran to vote with them. The truth -- that Lex would smoke out the person who voted for him and get rid of her.

Edited to bask in my new Guest Star status...

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32. "Frank"
After believing the Diane friends clue and incorrectlky guessing Teresa for 2 straight weeks, I'm going to belive that logic will rule the day and the strongest Suburu wil go. Goodbye Frank
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33. "Teresa"
I am not sure this week. But I am thinking the IC may not be as physical. Remember last time it was the make your box and the most boxes wins. Could be similar since both the first IC were indurence.

Frank i think is going to stay around because he is useful for chores and does not seem to be scheming. I bet he is and people do not see it.

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34. "Vote Total So Far..."
This is post #34, summarizing 33 votes. Thanks to SherpaDave for a great summary of E7. Another close battle rages regarding the boot:

Frank..........13
Teresa........10
Brandon........4
Lex..............3
Little Kim......2
Tom.............1
UTR: Ethan, Kelly, Mama Kim

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35. "Frank"
The Elephant Man goes. He is not an animal!
He's been edited as a loner and after the antler dance I believe his time may be up. Alt pic T-bird.

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36. "Theresa"
I'm voting early this week. I know I should wait to hear about the Early Show on Thursday, but I'm tired of thinking about this episode.

I feel a bit redundant here since Krauboy has expressed pretty much how I feel about this week's episode... here's an abbreviated version of my thoughts.

Originally, I thought Lex was going. But I've decided that this week is too soon. That would just be too stupid of Boran. And with "betrayal" in next weeks episode, I think he may go next week. So, I think it's a toss up between Theresa and Frank. Frank the loner had lots of face time. But I think Theresa goes -- she is the schemer trying to get Samburu back together. If you were the Boran who would you want out? The one that was plotting against you. She's also proven herself to be an immunity threat. Besides, zzz has been leaning towards Frank. As zzz has said, he can narrow it down to a few and then he always picks the wrong person! Sorry zzz.

Thanks for the summary Dave!

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37. "Frank"
Just seems logical.
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38. "theresa"
2nd pick lil kim no way the let alliance lets the women think about getting the upper hand
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39. "Teresa............."
It is hard to say this week, since there is really very little to go on, but I know that if I were the Borans she is who I would target first. Plus there is the possibility of Lex finding out about her vote and talking the others into voting her out. Those two things are really all that I am basing this pick on. The way I see it, it is a toss up between she and Frank, and I am going with my gut and saying Teresa.
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40. "Brandon"
I think Frank may have a friend or two in the Boran camp, while Brandon has few friends anywhere. If not, Brandon, then Theresa.
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41. "Theresa"
Well, the way I figure it is this: Theresa is a threat because she's trying to build a counter-alliance, and as we well know, counter-alliances are far more threatening than someone who is athletically strong. They'll figure her out.

Kudos to Krautboy for articulating all the reasons we'll see a T-bird boot this week!

Awesome summaries from Supe, Sherp, and especially funny ladies dk and OFG!!


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42. "Teresa"
Bolstered by Krautboy's excellent rationale.

Diane's list, Lex's witch hunt (I think he'll be developed as a villain a bit longer), Teresa's attempts to organize Sambooboos, her win of the physical IC last time--all point to her becoming too big a target to ignore.

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43. "Brandon"
alt. Frank. Brandon's character has been shifted in the positive, Frank's in the negative, whereas Teresa remains only partially developed and only at risk of vote-off for sympathetic reasons (should she become ill), and Kim P. is a virtual nonentity. Now that Boran has dominant position they cannot lose that by allowing one of their own to get voted off this week, despite what Lex may do to sink himself, but they can afford to think of other factors at the moment besides IC competition, so Brandon's scheming head-in-the-game persona should be highest on the target list.
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44. "Teresea"
I picked her last time because everyone else did and now I will vote on my own without listening to everyone else...
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45. "Kelly"
The way I see it - she could be considered somewhat of a loose cannon at this point in the game insofar as she does not appear to have any solid alliance. If I had the upper hand, I would want to get rid of any loose cannons that could threaten me. She also received a lot of face time in the re-cap episode.
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46. "re: teresa"
i think the necklace is a giant target sign.
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47. "Teresa"
Thanks Dave!
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48. "Teresa"
She showed her determination and ability to win an IC. Could pose a threat later as she is likeable. (Old) Boran wants to maintain upper hand. Teresa won't see it as a surprise and wouldn't hold it against anyone, (except maybe Lex) in a jury situation.
Lex will garner more votes, all from old Sammies.
If Lex doesn't win IC next time, he may lose in a tie-vote with Frank. I see Lex leaving before Brandon or Frank.
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49. "Teresa"
LAST EDITED ON 12-05-01 AT 06:08 PM (EST)

Boran needs to 'off' a Samburu. Teresa showed her IC spunk. She's smart, she's likeable and now she is starting to scheme! Ahhh! Ethan will be sure she's after him. Lex is mad because she gave him a vote. MamaKim & Kelly may not want somebody more likeable than they are still in the game. Plus, she got loads of face time & her story is all told.

Second choice: Frank. Although I think his story is mostly untold. I think he gets along with some people better than we have been shown so far.

Thanks for the summary, Sherpa. Loved the elephant story!!!

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50. "Teresa"
I hoped she would make it further but I think this is her week to go.
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51. "Frank"
Just because I think that since Kelly is the one that Samburu lures (unsuccessfully) and with her referral of "crazy, outlaw Frank", I think he'll be the Boran target.
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52. "Frank"
Thanks, Dave
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53. "Teresa"
Hopping aboard the Teresa bandwagon . . .
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54. "Teresa"
Because I hope it is not Frank!!!!

Great summary Dave!!!

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55. "Vote total so far..."
This is post #55, summarizing 53 votes. A new leader has emerged, apparently largely due to the persuasive arguments offered by some board members (in particular, Krautboy):

"T-bird" Teresa..23
Frank...............17
Brandi...............6
Lex...................3
"Little Bit" Kim.....2
"Big Tom"...........1
Kelly.................1
Ethan..............UTR
"Mama Kim".......UTR

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56. "Frank"
Tribal lines... and its obvious unless he wins IC
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57. "Lex"
1. Must be a male, to set up couples challenge next week.
2. Relationship of episode title to bootee consistent with title/bootee dynamic expressed in Linda's, Clarence's (and, I believe, Lindsey's, as my memory is that she was heard saying "I'd never do it to you" first, after the first Samburu TC) episodes -- that is, the bootee is the subject of the title (saying, wondering, and in Lex's case, doing) not the object (which Teresa would be in this case).
3. Lex's boot would be more devastating (to Ethan, maybe Tom) than apparent choices Frank's or Teresa's, setting up next week's episode description.
4. Mutineer Kelly is smart, but not smart enough to realize how much she needs to wait one more week, and as a result...
5. Samburu turns against her next week (the "Betrayal" of the title).

First post *ever* ... lurker elsewhere, just found this board, think it's the best by far. Thank you Dave...

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58. "Frank"
He doesn't play well with others.
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59. "Frank"
It's going to be an original Samburu. And Frank makes the most sense if he doesn't win immunity.
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60. "Teresa"
Knowing it has to be her or Frank. The hum and haw persisted but thanks to Krautboy's summary my vote was swayed. Both know they are on the block sooner or later. Maybe Frank saves his butt by getting the lovely necklace - postponing the inevitable.

I see the votes tonight as 5-4 for Teresa's walk - it will be interesting to see who winds up with the old Samburu votes.

I gotta believe the Lex torch with the necklace is real. Maybe not this episode but at some point. If it was found as a pic on the web somewhere then for sure iffy. But since it was shown for all the public (including those not so bent on spoiling - which is the vast majority of the viewers) I feel it has more merit. MB/JP I don't think will red herring the public that blatently - mislead for sure. The herrings are in the "found pictures" like last years basement party shot and from the "scenarios" that his internet army drop into the message boards each week. These are designed to cause turmoil for those who do what we do (sometimes better than others).

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61. "Teresa"
1. She is a physical threat and they have seen that--Brandon isn't.

2. She is a social threat; the more firneds you make, the more alliances you can affect---Frank isn't.

3. She is a threat in mental challenges--Kim P. has made no impression.

4. She voted for Lex and he is ticked.

I think it will be a close one--no overwhelming sweep this time around. She'll try to get her alliance formed, but without an original Boran, she is screwed.

I wish Kelly would see the light--if she does, Lex is a goner.

No matter what, Lex is going to be loaded with votes after this week.

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62. "Teresa"
This was a very difficult choice. Until yesterday, as many people know, I was leaning toward Frank. But I changed my mind for a few reasons. Krautboy was very persuasive, but I was starting to lean toward Teresa even before reading his post. A main reason is that I incorrectly picked her the last two weeks and would hate to have her go now the first time I choose someone else. Another reason is that I came to the conclusion it would be the "right" choice and I think there is a good chance they can figure this out as well. I guess I would prefer to be wrong picking Teresa over being wrong picking Frank.

My apologies to Make It Stop. I hope that my choice of Teresa has not made you regret your pick.

If the boot is neither Frank nor Teresa I may just hang up my spoiler hat--naaaa--this is too much fun even if I am always wrong.

Also--Thanks Dave.

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63. "Teresa"

She has shown herself to be a challenge threat, and she's about the last person you'd want next to you in the Final Two. I hope I'm wrong though. (Lex boo hiss)


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64. "RE: Ethan"
My kids are going to have a fit, since they too are Jewish soccer players, but he's the biggest threat for winning the whole thing if he goes on an immunity run.
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65. "Frank"
Let me state this right off the bat: I have no idea who is going this week, and I'm too busy at work to spend any time trying to determine the answer. This is simply a guess.

I read Krautboy's thread about Teresa, but I'm still not convinced. Perhaps I should be. But I still think the comment in the E9 preview that "one tribe member is devastated by the actions of another" refers to Teresa, since I can't picture anyone else being "devastated" by just about anything that could happen. Even Brandi wouldn't be "devastated" -- he knows he's on the losing side, and he just wants to outlive the OFA -- if anything else good happens, it would just be gravy for him.

I think Frank and Teresa are probably the next two off, but I think Frank goes first because he represents a greater physical threat ... plus, Lex wouldn't like the fact that Frank is close to Ethan.

Could I be off base? Sure. I have no actual spoiler evidence to use in choosing between the two of them, and logic hasn't done very well so far, since I've generally missed the challenge winners. Your guess is at least as good (and probably better) than mine; remember, I thought the merge wouldn't happen in E7 and so T-bird would get the boot (duh!).

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66. "Teresa"
I'm going with Teresa because I think her winning the IC last week was a big surprise and a testiment to her resiliency. Also, it looks like she's attempting to organize the rest of the Samboohoos in some sort of counteralliance against Boran, which I'm sure will become apparent to Lex, Ethan and Kelly -- showing strong leadership skills on the "weaker" tribe never gets a person very far. A la Gretchen.

However, Frank is my strong second choice, which is perfectly possible that Boran could see him as the next largest Samboohoo threat.


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67. "Teresa"
Hey - a board with smart people! Cool!

My reasonings:

1. Teresa is far more of a threat than Frank, physically, mentally, and socially.

2. Lex finds out that Teresa voted for him.

3. Everyone agress that Kelly would be the one person who would switch - I bet that she brings Kim J or Tom instead and tells them - and tells them that she voted for Lex. Those are the wrong people to talk to.

4. Diane's list of friends - everyone (Including Clarence) on her list is almost done - Teresa is the only one left to go.


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68. "Lex"
--Alternate Frank, but I doubt it. Frank seems like too much of an obvious choice, and MamaKim isn't going to let them get rid of Teresa yet. I have other reason, but no time to type them up.

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-- Who is using all of her willpowwer not to screw with this thresd.

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69. "Frank"
The only thing I can definitely (well almost definitely) see happening is that an old Sambooboo gets voted off tonight. It is too dangerous for a Boran to stray at this point in the game and they still have the numbers. So which Sambi bites the dust?

Kim P hasn't been developed as a character yet. Maybe she never does and is this season's Amber. But she doesn't look like much of a threat at this point in time.

Brandon also doesn't look like much of a threat. He could be going but I think that Frank or Teresa appear to be bigger threats to Boran.

Teresa is my strong alternate to Frank, but the snake hunt seems to be misdirection and too obvious in pointing to her departure.

Frank has had a lot of face time and as a loner is much easier to vote off than someone at least one Boran has the hots for. So Frank is my choice this week.

Thanks Dave for the wonderful and hilarious summary!

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70. "Frank"
It's time for him to go...

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71. "Teresa"
Alternate: Frank
For reasons posted on other threads, she is the bigger threat.
No Boran will switch, IMO. Not only would they become a minor wheel in a dysfunctional alliance, but they would lose all jury votes from their former Boran allies--assuring their own loss.

Maybe Lex will win IC, and the Sambubus won't even have a good target. Alternately, Frank wins IC. It will be interesting to see which, if any, Samebubus vote with Boran as a way to curry favor.

Dave, I already posted my appreciation of your summary...
You dung good!


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72. "Frank"
Going with my gut.

Thanks Dave! The summary was outstanding!!!

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73. "Frank"
First, Lex's witch hunt is not a big deal... Teresa will admit to voting for him, and will explain that it was part of the deal that she and Clarence made during the IC... Lex will understand... no big deal.

The IC will be won by Lex. He doesn't need it, but they're setting him up as a possible bootee, so we'll all think he needs it. This will be the reason that no one will betray the alliance (until next week... see Ep9 title)

Frank, who has recieved a lot of focus during the recap episode and during Ep7, is gone.


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74. "Teresa"
Sorry to say it, but Carl and Diane are calling her name.

Thanks Dave!!

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75. "Vote Total So Far..."
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-01 AT 02:48 PM (EST)

This is post #75, summarizing 72 votes. The race remains between the two remaining members of the OFA:

T-bird..........31
Frank...........25
Branded.........6
Lex...............5
Lil Kim...........2
Tom..............1
Kelly.............1
Ethan............1
Mommykim.....UTR

Without going out of my door
I can know all things on earth
Without looking out of my window
I could know the ways of heaven

The farther one travels
The less one knows
The less one really knows
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Isn't it a pity
Now, isn't it a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity

Some things take so long
But how do I explain
When not too many people
Can see we're all the same
And because of all their tears
Their eyes can't hope to see
The beauty that surrounds them
Isn't it a pity
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76. "Frank"
...but what a toss-up...
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78. "Teresa"
I tried to edit my last one but couldn't change the bloomin' subject line...grumble grumble...
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79. "Lex"
Wishful thinking, mostly ... although I kinda hope it's T-Bird since she's who I've got in the Deadpool ...

... And Thanks Dave for tha summary!!!


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80. "Are you all on dope??? It's BRANDON!!!"

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81. "Teresa"
Thanks Sherps for your excellent summary. You hit it outta the park!

Ok - IMO the core initial group of Boran always votes out the biggest obstacle to their advancing - not their heart. In the beginning, it was the weakest member of their tribe. Last week it became the biggest individual immunity threat.

They vote in their collective best interest. They have not allowed sympathy, friendship or preference to deter them from that goal. They were prepared to vote out MamaKim (reluctant but prepared) if it came to it. As a team - they have been focused soley on winning. So it really all comes down to who is the biggest remaining obstacle to that goal.

Arguments can be made for several people. To me, the most dangerous is Teresa. She is athletic. She is a maternal, positive person. She is determined. She is the one possible uniting element between the remaining Samburu. And she is not someone you want to have next to you if you are in the final 2.

Boran is smart - voting off Teresa is the smart thing to do. Combine this with Diane's friends and some of the other excellent analysis by Krautboy and others, it makes me almost kinda half-way positive that I think Teresa may possibly be going.


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82. "Lex"
Only because Vampy and The EO Kismet twisted my *ahem*..arm, yeah..that's it.

Alternate: Freaky Frank

Rock on, Dave!!



It's been awhile since I've seen the way the candles light your face. It's been awhile, but I can still remember just the way you taste...


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83. "The FRANKazoid"
Unfortunately you can't be an outsider and stay on. Big mistake!

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84. "Teresa"
No immunity this week T-Bird...bye-bye.

Thanks Sherpa Dave!

Fester

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85. "Frank"
Frank, Teresa, Frank, Teresa, Frank..

The main reason is the title of the episode. It screams Teresa! (snake) So therfore, its not. I am convinced the old Boran stick together this week, and the best one for them to boot, is Frank.

Alternate-Teresa...got burned by that pick last week, and the only thing thats changed, is her IC win last week, and the previews showing her trying to make a move this week...it just seems way too simple. Although, Clarence should have been simple too...hmmm...I really have no idea!

Thanks Sherps! Get online Soon!


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86. "Teresa"
It's a Bluemen schism!
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87. "Brandon"
Last minute mind change to Brandon. Don't think it can be Frank because of all of the hints of his impending ouster and face time the last two weeks. If Frank wins immuninity, I think LET would rather have attractive women around the fire than Brandon.
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88. "Teresa"
Yes, it's a tight tossup between Frank and Teresa, but this is one week where I'm willing to go with the less popular popular pick.

No original Boran will defect and TERESA will be booted. If Teresa manages to stay, then FRANK is my alternate pick.

I think the LEX rampage footage is a herring of sorts, but he's as good a pick as anyone else to win the Immunity Challenge

Supporting boot evidence:

- Teresa won the first individual immunity and in the process showed that she's much stronger than suspected and much more likely to be a competitor in endurance physical challenges than anyone likely previously suspected.

- Teresa attempts to make a counter-alliance move this week and is generally just out looking to stir up trouble for the Borans. In the meantime Frank just keeps to himself, hanging around cleaning, gathering wood, and generally just keeping the camp in order. This will make Teresa a much bigger threat in the Boran's eyes and we all know what happens to threats.

- Diane's friends. Teresa is the only friend left, if she doesn't go this week then it's probably next week.

- Frank's focus in the recap episode. In S2, the recap episode was before Ep 9, Jerri was a big focus of it (trying to rehab her image) and she was booted the very next week in Ep 8. This season the recap episode was before Ep 8 and Frank was a big focus of it. Some might take this to mean the same pattern will hold and Frank will now be booted, but I find it hard to believe Burnett would be that obvious. I think it's more likely that Frank survives this week and goes next.

- A better story. What's a better story for Week 9 -- Teresa convincing Kelly to join with herself, Brandi, and KimP to take out Tom/Lex, or FRANK, after all the crap that went down with him and the GXA, being forced to align with Brandi, KimP, and KELLY (another young'un) to keep himself in the game.

- A better plan for Kelly. If I were Kelly I'd feel much more comfortable in joining a B/K/F group than a B/K/T group. In the later there would still be many reasons to suspect she's the fourth person in a four person alliance. In the former she's a virtual lock to be at least the third person. If Kelly is even THEORIZING about a defection, I'm sure she's thought of this herself and would be doing whatever she could to manipulate Boran into a TERESA booting. I'm expecting Kelly to be planning 2 steps ahead at this point in the game -- if she's not then she isn't nearly as smart as we've been lead to believe of late.

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89. "Teresa"
Sorry, tribe, but Frank is *not* the largest threat to Boran. What has he done, other than get run over by a fake rock, look stupid with some goats, have his student show him up when the chips were on the table and whine all the time? I see no physical domination, no agility/marksmanship/skill, no way he cares about the others enough to learn about them in a "know they neighbor" challenge, and he doesn't even seem to have the ability to stand around for a length of time. He's the largest threat? No freakin' way. It's T-Bird. By a longshot. Who has the best chance - unexpected that is - at an immunity run? Has to be Teresa.

Meanwhile, it's still time to vote out the strongest so they cannot go on an immunity run. At this point, the weaklings have lots of time to get out. Teresa made her move too quickly with Clarence. She showed she can win. Since she's so utterly likable, that'll do her in this week. I don't see two in a row, so now is the time. There's going to be loads of time to get Frank. Same with Brandon. And MammaKim. Tom, too. Ethan, Kelly, Lex and LittleKim are those who could go on a run here. Definitely the strongest - and I might put Lex at the bottom of that ladder.

If Teresa does get immunity, say goodbye to LittleKim - not Frank. She's the next greatest Samburu threat.

Chad.

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90. "Frankie goes to jury ......"
Frank, the tribe has spoken !!!!

Good job Dave !!!!!

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91. "Vote Totals So Far..."
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-01 AT 06:35 PM (EST)

This is post #91, summarizing 86 votes. Results so far, with less than ninety minutes to go:

Teresa.........37
Frank...........29
Brandi...........8
Lex...............7
Lil Kim...........2
Big Tom.........1
Kelly.............1
Ethan............1
MamaKim.......UTR

I've been thinking now for a long time
How to go my own separate way.
Itīs a shame to think about yesterday,
It's a shame.
-- Brian Ferry ("Sea Breezes")

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92. "Lex"
But I could be wrong. It's no slam dunk, that's for sure.
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93. "Teresa"
Whew! Just got back in town in time for the episode! My tardy vote goes to Teresa.

Good summary Dave!

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94. "Frank"
Just a feeling....

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95. "FRANK....."
Because I have already voted for Teresa TWICE and I have been, oh what's that word, w-r-o-n-g (ugh) both times!!

Besides, AyaK is voting for Frank; so yeah, what HE said. LOL!!

Thanks to Dave for the great summary.

Dalton

PS. I LIKE Teresa!!

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96. "Teresa"
she's a goner.....sorry goatman

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97. "Frank"
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-01 AT 07:33 PM (EST)

One more Frank voter weighing in. *waves to Dalton* CBS and SEG have virtually cut off all of our evidence, but there can still be theories. Thought #1: everyone else thinks that Lex looks like a goof trying to find out who voted for him. Thought #2: Lex finds out that everyone is laughing at him behind his back. Thought #3: Lex tries to laugh it off and ends up looking like a clown in front of the Samburu, who will after all hold a 4-3 edge on the jury. Thought #4: Lex decides that he needs three more days to make it up to Teresa for the witch hunt. Since Frank will always vote for Ethan over Lex, Lex targets him first.

Oh, and Diane meets Teresa through Mama Kim.
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98. "FINAL Vote Totals"
This is post #98, summarizing 92 votes.

T-bird..........39
Frank...........32
Brandon.........8
Lex...............8
Lil Kim...........2
Tom.............1
Kelly.............1
Ethan...........1
Ma Kim.........UTR

Good luck to all. Locking this thread now.

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