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"Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? "
LisaPles 740 desperate attention whore postings
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04-13-06, 04:03 PM (EST)
 
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"Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
I almost can’t stand to watch the results show any longer. I think the way they treat the contestants is totally disrespectful.
Like for example, immediately after they showed Elliott’s video clip, the first of the final three, Ryan put him on the spot and asked him to sing. You could tell that Elliott was not made aware in advance that he would be asked to sing and he was surprised. Of course he obliged, and he sounded fine, but it didn’t sit well with me. Being that it is a live show wouldn’t it have been nice to let the contestants have some idea what to expect?
I think this bothers me especially because many of them are adults, some of them married, families ...etc. They treat them like a bunch of children. Like when they have to go join group number one, two or three on stage. Give me a break!
Does anyone else think they should do this in a more dignified manner? I feel like I’m watching Ryan lead a kindergarten class sometimes!
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EMTBGRL 2514 desperate attention whore postings
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04-13-06, 05:11 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
I agree with you.
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fenway_frank 23 desperate attention whore postings
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04-13-06, 06:29 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
i guess when you have 30-40 million people voting every week and having both shows consistently number 1 for their time slots...changing the premise of the show isnt gonna happen anytime soon.....but I agree...its pretty brutal to watch lately.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 10:32 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
No, no, in Hollywood, the Golden Rule is "Thems that have the gold make the rules."
 
Sig by Arkie!!
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archon 178 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 08:13 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
I did not get to see the results show (sorry, no tivo and LOST was on...)But, I have very little sympathy for any of the contestants. This is, what, the 5th time around for this show? I have to assume by now that everyone has already seen the show and knows how crappy they MAY be treated if they get this far. They know the show. They know the deal. This is their opportunity to make a name for themselves. If FOX decides to crap all over them -- well -- that's part of the package. Is that unfair? No. Unfair is the far more talented singers who did not get through becuase they were not marketable (ie. attractive) enough. The object of the show is to make drama. Harsh emotions -- no matter the type -- are drama. And good drama sells alot of Coke. Thats what its about -- and all of them know it. Archon "You can get more with a 2x4 and a kind word than with just a kind word." (Marcus, B5)
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archon 178 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 11:28 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
Oh, don't get me wrong. Its sad to watch a person who has vested himself into something so completely and see it all disappear in an instant. I certainly believe that their emotions are legit... I can and do empathize...But -- unless you are the winner -- you have to know what's most likely ahead of you. You will be used by FOX to sell Coke and Ford Focus -- any which way they can. All they can do is accept it, like it, and make the most of it... Archon "You can get more with a 2x4 and a kind word than with just a kind word." (Marcus, B5)
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aifan2006 25 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 09:55 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
I have'nt thought they were very nice to the bottom three contestants since that week when Paula was impaired and laughted at them and make stupid jokes while they stood there. Remembering how important this moment is to the contestants they could show some more consideration but they don't. And I agree when some contestant is in emotional tears they should not stand there and make them sing the song that got them eliminated from the show in the first place, but the truth is embarrasing people and making them look foolish is most of the fun of this show to alot of people is'nt it. The contestants looking foolish is what they think brings this show big ratings.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 11:44 AM (EST)
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14. "Brian May's says Queen did Ace's arrangement" |
Wow, I can't believe that thread of mine was "locked" for being redundant? I manage a message board too, and I can't imagine being that controlling. I'm not a nitwit who randomly posts things. This was only my second new thread ever -- and my first thread was what brought back Gay Idol Journal, so please give me a little credit for being able to think things through.
This isn't about Ace. And it isn't about "disrespect."
it's about lies, and the show's integrity.
So anyway. This is a variation on the locked thread:
Brain May says Queen actually SUPPORTED Ace's interest in changing up their song, and HELPED him create the arrangement he performed on the show. Brian thought he did a good job too, and he's angry at the way the producers essentially lied with the editing.
If Ace had been kicked off, I imagine this could have blown into a big deal.
click this link
- AMERICAN IDOL - ACE - AND BEING MISREPRESENTED on this page: http://www.brianmay.com/whatsnew.html
Today's NT Post has a tiny blurb about it too,
http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/66998.htm
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 03:05 PM (EST)
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15. "WARNING" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-14-06 AT 03:06 PM (EST)If you manage a message board, then I'm sure you appreciate the importance of posters reading and following the community guidelines.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings
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04-14-06, 07:40 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: WARNING" |
I'm sorry.This was a subject that was important to me. I thought it was a relevant topic of discussion, and I was genuinely dismayed when I came back to see what other people thought, and saw they couldn't respond. On my other boards, the rules are interpreted a bit differently. I guess I'll call this a learning experience.
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LisaPles 740 desperate attention whore postings
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04-17-06, 09:03 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Edit of Queen's Comments" |
I see your point with the show's lack of integrity in editing Queen's comments about Ace. Unfortunately I'm not surprised. The show can't manipulate the votes but they will attempt to manipulate the viewers in other ways.
Not only was that edit a slap in Ace's face, it was really poor for them to have Queen participate in the show and then misrepresent their comments. I personally think that Ace was terrible, but they should let the viewers have an objective opinion without adding their propaganda.
I wouldn't be surprised if artists & bands think twice before geting involved with the show in the future. I'm sure they want to do it to promote themselves but if they don't trust how they will be portrayed, they will avoid it.
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priestdi 378 desperate attention whore postings
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04-20-06, 12:07 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Results Show" |
Actually, Dial Idol -- which is based on busy signals -- had Chris in the bottom three!! what an endorsement for their accuracy, wow.and about last night. They've done that before, told somebody to go stand with the safe group. Was it Bo last year, or somebody in season 3? it's starting to run together. At least this time they did it in a way that made it clear it was SUPPOSED to be a guess. the first time it was a set-up, the bottom 3 wasn't what it appeared to be. I hoped Taylor would refuse to do it, actually. But it was Ok the way he turned it into a joke, shaking Chris' hand and walking away. They must know about Dial Idol too. and that (I think) was the Dial Idol bottom three standing there.
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Devious Weasel 18756 desperate attention whore postings
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04-20-06, 02:57 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
I agree it's incredibly padded, but as mentioned earlier, I don't mind the elimination performances. For one thing, they are usually among the best performances the contestant gives. For another, they are something for that contestant and his or her fans, not just for the entire audience. One last moment to shine, so to speak. As to revealing vote totals, I wish they would, but I understand why they don't. For one thing, they couldn't do their little "hide who is really in trouble" trick they like to do. For another, they want to maintain the fiction that the final result is still up in the air, because that keeps people voting. If the audience knew that so and so got a significantly greater number of votes than anyone else, would people still tune in? Maybe, but I think the producers regard it as an open question. 
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Fishercat 4168 desperate attention whore postings
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04-20-06, 09:50 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Do you think Results Show lacks respect for contestants? " |
I can see why they do a lot of the things they do on the results show. They can only do so much during a show and they have to stretch it 30 minutes. Here's how I would change it.A) Eliminate the Bush League tactics with making Taylor or Bo choose the "safe" group, or separating them into different groups, or making them do a chicken dance (okay, I made the last one up). It's unnecessary, sophomoric, and simply sad. B) Get a legitimate recap. Give serious, quality clips of each performer and judge's comments (at least from F12 on) for people who may have missed it. None of this jumping around, 5 second voiceover clips. They could give 30 seconds of each performer, 10-15 seconds on comments, 5 second of introductions, and that's still 5-6 minutes off the clock of less stalling C) Judge's Predictions. Have Simon/Paula/Randy predict before revealing anything who they thought was the worst and going home, then do it after the B3 are announced. Make it interesting, see if they have a pulse on the public. D) Keep the ending performance, but don't cut it off, and perhaps give them the option to do their favorite song if possible. I don't like that Mandisa had to do country when she left, with her earlier performances. E) With a legit recap, cut out the whole deal about saying "Katharine, you performed blahblahblah. Randy called it "x", Paula said "y", Simon said "z". F) If they don't want a huge recap of the previous night's episode, then give the people leaving a true send-off package. Put the clips from home, but give robust clips for their best performances, maybe their audition if we didn't see it, good Hollywood performances. So many options, but some of the tactics are just...bad. I don't watch the recap anymore, I check on it during Lost's commercial breaks
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