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"Shades of the Florida recount...."
chuck 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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11-09-01, 12:22 PM (EST)
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"Shades of the Florida recount...." |
Talk about changing the rules as they go along. The survivors seemed to be taking this in stride pretty well. I know I'd be quite pissed, and I imagine a lot of comments were left on the editing rule floor. Part of the fun is seeing them strategize, and if they have no idea how to do that, the game just becomes about the challenges. I'd rather watch "Battle of the Network Stars". Further, this blatant change probably only adds fuel to Stacey's lawsuit that MB manipulates the rules to make sure the old folks don't get booted early, lest the CBS demographic gets upset. Finally, regarding Jeff's cryptic comment about the merge, I would bet he's just screwing with them to show his "superiority" (a la Alex Trebek- easy to do when you are the host. Any one else think Jeff's getting tired of this gig already and showing his orneryness?) Here's why, from the CBS web page, Survivor FAQ's: Will there always be two teams? No. Beginning in episode seven, the two teams merge. The remaining Survivors, accustomed to thinking of each other as "the enemy" or members of the "other team" will come to live together and compete as individuals. At that point, the challenges become person against person, as opposed to team against team; only the winning individual will receive a reward and/or immunity. Thanks for indulging me!!
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TODDLJ 421 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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11-09-01, 12:30 PM (EST)
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1. "I am pissed!" |
I'm with you, Chuck. Last nights show pissed me off big time!I know a lot of people hated Silas and the Mallies, but that's really not the point. The point is, we and they were lied to about how the game works. Silas was basically taken from a very strong position to a very weak one with an unnanounced rule change. This was such blatant tampering with game results. As much as I disliked Silas, I dislike the annoyingly smug Frank and Teresa much more at this point. And I hate MB the most of all. I guess MB's strategy is to make us hate everyone, and to not care anymore who wins. Well, after last night's show, he succeeded.
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yianni_65 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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11-09-01, 05:39 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: I am pissed!" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-01 AT 08:17 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 11-10-01 AT 08:16 PM (EST) I'm going to have to be the one to disagree here. The original rules had made the game predictable. Survivor I was fresh, because no one knew what to expect. By Survivor II, it became obvious that the key to success was to establish a strong alliance and simply pick off your enemies. The "twist" and any others that follow will keep everyone on their toes and the game and its outcome fresh. The Gen X'ers are hurt by their cocky and unconsiliatory attitude. Would Lindsey and Silas have become so vunerable if they had played the game like the all the members of Boran (pre-swap) had done? MB's twist simply keeps the game unpredictable. This game is much more about entertainmnet than anything. One could not ask for a much more contrived situation than placing these strangers in the middle of nowhere, competing for a million dollars. Anything that creates turmoil in the plan, ensures that the most cunning and clever will outlast and unoriginal and simply-minded. As far as I am concerned, Mark Burnett has done his show and and all of us a favor. Finally, I am going to predict that the merge does not happen until there are 8 survivors left. This way, everyone will have spent the same amount of time with the new alignment as the old and new alliances and loyalties will have formed.
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evilj9 29 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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11-09-01, 06:15 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: I am pissed!" |
I must say I somewhat agree with yianni. Although MB did screw with the rules, he cannot be accused of manipulating the outcome. Remember, each tribe was instructed to choose who they sent on the journey. The tree mail told them to make their choice wisely. MB had no idea who would get picked. None of the Romper Room kids (I refuse to consider them GenX)were willing to get off their lazy asses and take the journey. They were more than willing to allow Frank and Theresa to go. They sent Silas to "watch over" F&T. They made their beds and have been laying around in them since the start of the show. Watching Brandon bond with the Boranites does show that he is smarter than the cameras have been indicating. I would expect Lindsey to go next, provided Samburu actually tries at the next IC. If not, Clarence's days are numbered. Either way I expect L/T/K to rejoin their Boran friends, pick off the remaining Romper Room Kids and let the fun begin with Ethan, Lex, Tom, Kelly, Kim J, Frank and Theresa. IMHO the twist has provided some excitement to a show that was getting methodical at best. Let the games beging!!! As always, in evil, j9
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-10-01, 01:35 AM (EST)
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9. "No pity here either..." |
I hates the lazy little twerps!
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-10-01, 02:03 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: MB Did Have Control Over..." |
>I'm still not convinced MB didn't >have this up his sleeve >from the beginning though.Think about it, though. Had Boran and Samburu not had numerical parity, ie. had it been 5 Boran remaining to 7 Samburu, would a 3 for 3 switch have been in the works? This is clearly a case of a decision made on the spot in order to shake things up as much as possible. Honestly, the 3 for 3 switch only accomplished early what was clearly inevitable, the destruction of the dunderheaded GXA4. "If all machines were to be annihilated at one moment, so that not a knife nor lever nor rag of clothing nor anything whatsoever were left to man but his bare body alone that he was born with, and if all knowledge of mechanical laws were taken from him so that he could make no more machines, and all machine-made food destroyed so that the race of man should be left as it were naked upon a desert island, we should become extinct in six weeks. A few miserable individuals might linger, but even these in a year or two would become worse than monkeys." (Samuel Butler, "Erewhon")
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Naked 887 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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11-10-01, 01:45 AM (EST)
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10. "RE: MB Did Have Control Over..." |
Icecat, I happen to disagree with you on this subject. I do not think that this rule change would really have that much outcome on the final survivor anyway. As a student of anthropology, I have always looked at the game in that perspective, and there is no way that the GenX alliance was going very far post merge. There was only four of them, and it seems like that all of the other contestants disliked them. They would have been picked them off one by one after the tribes combined for certain. As far as Silas is concerned, There is no way that he could have won all of the immunity chalenges, and because he was such a physical threat, He would have been voted out the first time he lost. The only change because of this rule that I can forsee is who will go to the jury. All in all, the twist made an otherwise boring and predictable mid season to be something that we would have to think about.(and spoil hopefully). By the way, I have really enjoyed reading your posts. you have given a lot of thoughtfull insights, and things to chew on. keep up the good work. Even when we are all dead wrong it's still fun to speculate Naked
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