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"SurvivorBlowsTribe, It's Time to Vote............."
Well, well, well....So you wanna vote do you? How bad do you want it? Reaaaaallly bad...or just BAD bad? I won't make you beg....this time.

Special thanks to me amigo Sherps for starting last weeks vote thread. Sharing is good.

Here, once again, are the vote thread rules...now given to you in interpretive dance!

*Superman waves his hands above his head wildly, then falls to the floor in a lifeless heap* Which means:

1. Reply only to this post!

*Superman rises from the heap, jumps into the air and slaps himself on the left buttock* Which means:

2. Put the name of your choice for this weeks bootee in the SUBJECT heading!

*Superman lands gracefully and then pinches his lips closed* Which means:

3. This is NOT a discussion thread! Do not treat it as such!

*Superman points to his chin and then frames his face in his hands* Which means:

4. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!

*Superman takes a bow*

Ok folks, the voting thread was beautifully done and easy to read for the first 2 weeks. There were a few exceptions and they know who they are....but just in case they don't remember, here's a list of their names:

wilsoa2000
7o62x39
xrunner
MDSkinner
weltek
5foot3

....and *gasp*

SherpaDave.....and SurvivorBlows!

This people have blatently violated vote thread rules and have been added to "The List." Please feel free to taunt them in the message portion of your vote post!

And as always...HAPPY VOTING!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!! VampKira 10-23-01 1
 MommaKim mavsfan 10-23-01 2
 Brandon scorpio 10-24-01 3
 Kimmy J. Mitrelleum 10-24-01 4
 MommaKim MC_Hampster 10-24-01 5
 Brandondon.... ItzLisa 10-24-01 6
 Kim J bondt007 10-24-01 7
 Brandon NightScribe 10-24-01 8
 MamaKim Bebo 10-24-01 9
 Brandon PagongRatEater 10-24-01 10
 Kim J. managerr 10-24-01 11
 MamaKim wendyp 10-24-01 12
   Clarence ivoryElephant 10-24-01 14
 Clarence!!! TaurusII 10-24-01 13
 Brandon 7o62x39 10-24-01 15
 Brandon HomeBrewer 10-24-01 16
 Brandon!! Wyld_Lynx 10-24-01 17
 Brandi...no, KimJ...no, Linz...no, ... PepeLePew13 10-24-01 18
 Mamma Kim Jizzy 10-24-01 19
 Clarence AmberFan126 10-24-01 20
 MommaKim gets the nod from Tom 40thandUp 10-24-01 21
 Kim J dangerboy 10-24-01 22
 Vote Total So Far SherpaDave 10-24-01 23
   RE: Vote Total So Far VampKira 10-25-01 83
 Kim J. jtmorgan61 10-24-01 24
 Brandon bebekid 10-24-01 25
 Kim J. dabo 10-24-01 26
 Brandon tonedef 10-24-01 27
   Kim esquire 10-25-01 70
 Kim J Splendora 10-24-01 28
 Brandon Loree 10-24-01 29
 Brandon MakeItStop 10-24-01 30
 Kim J. IceCat 10-24-01 31
 Clarence supershirll 10-24-01 32
 Brandon Frau Hexe 10-24-01 33
 Kim J turtle 10-24-01 34
 Kim J big idiot 10-24-01 35
 Lyndsey Superman 10-24-01 36
 Kim J. samiam 10-24-01 37
 Brandon LadyT 10-24-01 38
 Kelly tribephyl 10-24-01 39
 Kim (J.) soulSurvivor_23 10-24-01 40
 Kim J borderlinebitch 10-24-01 41
 MommaKim SawCvive 10-24-01 42
 Kim J. diamond 10-24-01 43
 Vote Totals So Far SherpaDave 10-25-01 44
 Clarence MacGyver_13 10-25-01 45
 Brandon LowRent 10-25-01 46
 Kim J. Krautboy 10-25-01 47
 Teresa plotta 10-25-01 48
 Mama Kim alleyb 10-25-01 49
 Brandon Primate 10-25-01 50
 Mama Kim Gerbees 10-25-01 51
 Kim J Lightmage81 10-25-01 52
 MamaKim anotherkim 10-25-01 53
 Mama Kim.... MDSkinner 10-25-01 54
 Buh-bye BRANDON moonbaby 10-25-01 55
 Kim J. weltek 10-25-01 56
 MamaKim dangerkitty 10-25-01 57
 Mama Kim Mumbo Jumbo 10-25-01 58
 Tom cowboyroo 10-25-01 59
 Brandon Lisapooh 10-25-01 60
 Kelly tjack 10-25-01 61
 Brandon Bungler 10-25-01 62
 Brandon AresMars 10-25-01 63
 Sgt. Franklin LoudmouthLee 10-25-01 64
 RE: Brandon janisella 10-25-01 65
 MamaKim Freebird 10-25-01 66
 Kim J Gypsy 10-25-01 67
 Brandon s_man 10-25-01 69
   Vote totals to here s_man 10-25-01 71
 MommaKim Pinky and the Brain 10-25-01 72
 MamaKim Tinkerbell 10-25-01 73
 Brandon sleeeve 10-25-01 74
 Momma Kim true 10-25-01 75
 KimJ George Tirebiter 10-25-01 76
 Kim Of Boran (aka Kim J., aka MamaK... SurvivorBlows 10-25-01 77
 Mama Kim shanana banana 10-25-01 78
 Clarence Thrill Seeker 10-25-01 79
   Clarence 5Foot3 10-25-01 80
 Brandon realityjunkie 10-25-01 81
 Mama Kim lroy 10-25-01 82
 BRANDON.... Dalton 10-25-01 84
 Kim J. travelingbetty 10-25-01 85
 Brandumb shakes the clown 10-25-01 86
 MamaKim Boran Drive My Car 10-25-01 87
 Clarence AyaK 10-25-01 88
 Vote totals so far .... AyaK 10-25-01 89
 MamaKim zandi 10-25-01 90
 Linda the last cavalier 10-25-01 91
 Mamakim Outfrontgirl 10-25-01 92
 Brandon jayseae 10-25-01 93

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VampKira 4433 desperate attention whore postings
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10-23-01, 10:49 PM (EST)
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1. "BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!!"
LAST EDITED ON 10-23-01 AT 10:52 PM (EST)

Sir, yes SIR! (damn I've missed that!! *winks at Supe*}

FOR SHAME!!!!! You vote thresd violators!!!!

Pssssssssst... Got any onion petals.....?

*As for my Brandon vote?? HELL.. I have to get it right SOMETIME!!*


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10-23-01, 11:27 PM (EST)
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2. "MommaKim"
MommaKim gets the boot in episode 3 because:

1) jtmorgan61 info says that in episode 4, 2 boran are nervous about getting the boot. This indicates either Kelly/Clarence/MommaKim get the boot in episode 3.
Since Boran are smart enough to boot weak players Clarence stays, and either Kelly/MommaKim go.

2) Dangerkitty info indicates Kelly goes in episode 4.
MommaKim will go before Kelly, so Mommakim goes in episode 3.

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10-24-01, 00:31 AM (EST)
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3. "Brandon"
Samburu are dq'd for endungering the safety of kelly and Mamak, brandon takes the fall. Any chance I can copper my bet and use SB's vote?
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10-24-01, 06:31 AM (EST)
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4. "Kimmy J."
Going with the blatantly obvious and most likely vote.

Oh and poo on you thread violators!

P.S. Why do you guys type "thresd"?

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10-24-01, 10:54 AM (EST)
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5. "MommaKim"
Banking on DangerKitty's info that Kelly gets the boot next week. I don't see her going before MommaKim, which means she's out this week.

Also, it looks like Tom may make it far into the game, which to me indicates that Boran goes in under 5 members. I think a smaller alliance of Samburu will learn from Amber and Jerri's mistake and join up with Boran because they can see what will happen if they don't.

-MC

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10-24-01, 11:00 AM (EST)
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6. "Brandondon...."
1. Sorry for the cutesy spelling, but that's how my nephew Brandon used to say his name when he was a baby.

2. You ROTTEN, HORRIBLE, SCOFFLAW rule-breakers!!! (*Runs off to find wet noodle*) (*Yells back over shoulder*) EVIL!!! Pure evil!!!!

3. To Mitrelleum - because one time, Vampy misspelled "Thread" as "Thresd". Shakes teased her about it ALOT, and everyone had so much fun on that thresd (see what I mean?), it just stuck and became SBlows tradition!

4. Second choice - MamaKim, but only if Boran "Ogakors" their bad selves to TC AGAIN!

****************************************

HI, SILAS!!!

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7. "Kim J"
...then again, what do I know!
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10-24-01, 11:43 AM (EST)
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8. "Brandon"
I'm so sure about this that if I'm wrong, I may turn in my probationary spoiler card.
please please please let me be right this time!



Fighting illiteracy by day
and writer's block by night

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10-24-01, 11:56 AM (EST)
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9. "MamaKim"
* Bebo twirls her finger in a cylindrical motion *
which means...I vote for her for reasons already stated by others.

* Bebo bows gracelessly to Superman *

which means... Thank you for the lovely dance!

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10. "Brandon"
I've got to be right one of these weeks and he just seems to be absolutely useless
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10-24-01, 12:12 PM (EST)
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11. "Kim J."
Sorry Mama, your time has come.
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10-24-01, 12:13 PM (EST)
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12. "MamaKim"
Well this week I do not know, but I think Boran goes to TC again.

Welcome back Superman!!!

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14. "Clarence"
Just because I don't want to see Kim J leave.
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10-24-01, 12:31 PM (EST)
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13. "Clarence!!!"
Maybe I'm crazy, but does nobody notice the tiebreaker implications?!?

Then again, if nobody here sees it, maybe the Survivors won't see it either.

JMHO

)O

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15. "Brandon"
LAST EDITED ON 10-24-01 AT 12:58 PM (EST)

I don;t think that there is much doubt that should Samburu lose the IC, Brandon goes first. He is a big pain in the ass and will be the leader of the Young Samburus civil disobedience in E3.

The case for Mamakim, is based upon 1) minor evidence of Kelly going E4 and speculation that 2) Mamakim would go before Kelly. This is pretty weak.

There are several aspects majority/purality view I don't buy.

1) We have not had a storyline development of the mamakim nickname. Nor the need for it if the two Kim or at least mamakim doesn't make the merge.

2) We have the URL registration of Kim P's nickname "Little Bit"

3) Age as well as gender has been a strong basis of alliances throughout Survivor.

4) The speculated Kelly-Ethan Jewish alliance has not been seen, although it could exist. But it appears to me that Lex and Kim are as in control of voting targets as anyone else in Boran.

5) "The gods are angry" to me suggests a Samburu conflict, ref. Linda's ancestorial - respect theme which was placed into the storyline and has not been yet built upon.

6) Lindsey and perhaps others are thought to get sick, if so perhaps weakening Samburu at the IC

The way things are shaping up the Old Samburu Alliance could be in a heap of trouble after the merge. By declaring themselves so militantly and strongly they have given every reason for Silas and any other young Samburu's to defect to the remnant Borans, who will be reduced but tight.

Here's my boot order take:
1 Diane
2 Jessie
3 Brandon
4 Kelly
5 Lindsey
6 Clarence

Merge

Here's Old Samburu's complex suballiances:

Frank + Carl - Age, Gender bond
Carl + Teresa - Trust bond
Teresa + Linda - Age, Gender bond
resulting in:

((Frank + "Carl) + {Teresa" + Linda}) <

((Lex + Mamkim + Ethan + Tom) + (Kim P + Silas))

The destruction of the Old Samburus begins at the merge with Frank going E7.

Cheers
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10-24-01, 01:23 PM (EST)
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16. "Brandon"
I do not buy into Sambuca losing 3 or 4 in a row. Brandon takes a walk. Lindsey's injury is not enough to make her leave.


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10-24-01, 01:29 PM (EST)
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17. "Brandon!!"
I really think that Sambura will lose the IC this time.

WyldLynx

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18. "Brandi...no, KimJ...no, Linz...no, ok it's BRANDON"
Compelling arguments can be made for quite a few people, but I'm leaning towards Brandon because too much has been directed on the possibility of 4 Borans getting booted in a row, that I believe that MB may have planted some "evidence" to throw people off.
Lindsey has gotten too much negative face time in the preview, therefore she stays.

Kelly either goes in ep.4 or it's a local station trumpeting her performance to date (DK's spoiler).

Clarence... good arguments have been made that he could lose out on a tiebreak if he convinces the women to vote along with him or the women gang up hoping that Tom will continue to vote "C.B." -- but I'm not ready to jump on that bandwagon yet.

Kim J. seems a little too obvious at this point as part of the misdirection edited towards the possible pagonging of the Borans.

IMO, most of the others are safe, but as Ep.2 showed, nothing is "for sure" in this show.

So... that leaves Brandon. The preview said someone gets in trouble cooking for his "friends" and I believe this may be in reference to Brandon thumbing his snotty nose at the elders and opening up some food while the Viagra folks were on a water run.

I ought to vote Kim P. or Ethan... I've often been wrong and being wrong this week would mean Brandon stays!


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"Oh, it's gonna blow up, dude... in 5 minutes, dude. It's gonna hit the (bleep) ceiling."
"It is?"
"Oh yeah." (maniacal laughter)
Anthony (talking to Adrian) on LC, Oct. 9/01

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10-24-01, 02:58 PM (EST)
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19. "Mamma Kim"

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20. "Clarence"
Or Clanence or C.B...whatever you prefer. =) I really am not confident...at all. But, I want to vote differently! Samburu Pick: Brandon
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21. "MommaKim gets the nod from Tom"
She is the weakest link in Boran and I think the men realize that the weakest have to go first if there is any hope of winning a IC in the future. Clarence throws his vote in with T-E-L 'cause he's grasping for them to accept him. Both women throw thier votes at Clarence - possibly hoping for another stray vote from Tom.

Kim packs up her thong and heads to the ranch with a 4-2 vote send-off.

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22. "Kim J"
I WISH it was Branflakes!! He's about as useless as the nickname. Unfortunately I think the Morons will lose again and that means that Useless gets a pass. I do think that his head is first on the chopping block once the Zambukas lose an immunity challenge. Oh well, only time will tell.


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23. "Vote Total So Far"
This is post #23, with a total of 22 votes cast. There will be a public flogging at midnight of wendyp for violating vote thresd rules and of Superman for spelling thresd wrong.

Ladies and gents, your totals:
Kim J. 10
Brandon 9
Clarence 3

Corporal O'Reilly
Everyone else.

Once again, a close vote. Hopefully, Blue Man Group won't send everyone scurrying to the wrong choice again this week.


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10-25-01, 06:06 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: Vote Total So Far"
>>There will be a public flogging at midnight of wendyp for violating vote thresd rules and of Superman for spelling thresd wrong.<<

I paid 1600 bucks for a ticket to this friggin' floggin'!! I wanna crack at him!!!!!! Pleeeeeease...

Uh oh.... I think I am about to violate this thresd myself.... No I won't... will I?? Not VAMPY.....Not on the Spoiler board.....

Will she?

Please forgive me...Don't punish me.. I PROMISE I'll never do it again.....I mean it... Really.... *bats her bats* ?????

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24. "Kim J."
I wish Samburu would lose to even things up...
From the ep. 4 preview, it sounds suggestively like Boran loses another member. Additionally, MB footage of the EP 3 IC challenge showed Boran winning, but a) he usually shows footage where the team that is leading is opposite of the team that wins and b) we saw that Kim J and Kelly get in trouble partway through the race.

If Boran loses, the men will vote out the weakest link. This could be Kelly, but I see Kim J as more isolated from the group and probably less physically fit in the minds of the guys.

Should Samburu lose I pick Brandon as my alternate. Silas will probably defect for now (I suppose the ep. 4 "cracking" could be a member of the older alliance feeling bad/screwed - Teresa?). Kim P seems to have a bond with Carl and be the most personable of the useless ones, and Lindsey was already hinted at in the preview (flipping Frank off, crying). So it's not her. Brandon is the leader of the mallrats, making him a good target, and he's not a physical advantage over the women.

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25. "Brandon"
I don't have a lot of time to spend on the evidence, so I have to depend on you all! My decision is based on arguments made by Pepe and 7o62x39. (Thanks, guys!)
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26. "Kim J."
alt: C.B.
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27. "Brandon"
Some compelling analysis on the spoiler board, as always. One thing jumped out to me, however, the preview for next week from the TV guide where 'a member of the tribe chooses to cook more food for his friends while his enemies are at the watering hole'. This would have to be Brandon, and my belief is that it will be discovered, making for some great television and a lot of anger. He will be the first target of the Samburu 4 (5?) because of this.

Will Boran lose a third challenge in a row? I don't think so...no proof to this, but I doubt that MB would allow something like that to happen. Remember the maze challenge from S2? The rumoured swimming challenge for Episode 6 of Survivor 2? These were to happen to give the ailing team the edge, and I think it will happen here.

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70. "Kim"
I don't understand why so many people believe that MB cares if one team wins 3 or 4 challenges in a row. It seems to me that if that occurs and the tribes are not equal at the merger, there are dynamics/issues that will appear tht haven't appeared in the past. In other words, things would be different than the last 2 times. That doesn't mean worse, just different. Alliance building would be different. Why does everyone assume things have to be equal at th emerger. I would liek to see a merger with 1 team already strongly in controll. I think that would make for a much more interesting game.

By the way, I pick Kim

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28. "Kim J"
Just a feeling
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I think Brandon is the cook who upsets the tribe. And I think Samburu will lose the IC this week. MB is going to try and make a challenge that Boran can compete at.
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30. "Brandon"
Boran wins immunity (duh) based on the vidcaps...Kelly and Kim are about to hug, they are smiling. Ethan in the background looks like he could also be smiling. Tom just looks exhausted. Kelly's buff is around her waist -- it has to be AFTER the IC. Samburu (Kim and Silas) are listening to someone -- probably Jeff explaining how they will be going to TC.

I think it would be stupid for Silas to not vote with the oldies. It is too obvious for Lindsey to go; she is competing in the IC so she can't be that sick. Therefore, Brandon must go.

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31. "Kim J."
Keeping it simple here in the reasoning department:

Two challenges are shown:

The INTENSLY physical 'dung ball' race; and

A rehash of the SOS challenge.

The SOS challenge is judged by a subjective decision on visibility. A subjectively judged challenge will NOT be used for IC. A race is judged by the objective standard of crosses the line first. The dung ball race IS the IMMUNITY Challenge.

Boran does not have the horses to pull off a physical challenge win. They have not recovered from the physical effects of dehydration. They will continue to lose physical challenges.

Boran will lose the IC, they will chose the person who presents the largest physical deficit - Kim J. Her age, lack of physical strength, and demonstrated inability during challenges will see her chosen as Boran's next member to take the long walk out of the village.

The argument that Kim J's 'Lil Bit' nickname has not been developed on the show is weak as it could just as well be a nickname she had before the show. Tom was called 'Big Tom' before he went on the show.

Boran loses, Kim J. goes... but watch for MB to throw Boran a moral 'bone' by letting them win the RC. It's a frikkin beauty contest! MB tells Jiffy who to pick and who ever MB wants to win the RC will win the RC. It is in MB's best interest to get these losers motivated. Having them get skunked at the RC would not help their moral (and their subsequent effort) at all.

You can always change your vote people! ;)



September 11, 2001

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32. "Clarence"
*supershirll blows a kiss to the violators* which means:

Not everyone can be as perfect as us Superheros!!!

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33. "Brandon"
LAST EDITED ON 10-24-01 AT 08:18 PM (EST)

Although, I've been saying Lindsey all week--I jumped on the bandwagon because Brandon's so damn useless. I'm thinking Samburu goes to TC this week, and the tribe elders are not likely to want to keep his whiney ass around.



Edited so as not to jump on a "bandwago"

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34. "Kim J"
this year's Sonja...
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35. "Kim J"
Besides the obvious reasons (age, eating dirt), why choose Kim J over Kelly? Because the men get wind of her trying to form an all woman alliance (her attempts were stated in some of those xtra CBS clip thingees), Kelly probably narcs on her to get the heat off herself. They see her as the most troublesome and dangerous, and althought they do like her, out she goes.
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36. "Lyndsey"
Yep, Lyndsey..

MB shows us the Lyndsey footage in an attempt to make it look as if she's leaving. We immediately think it's a trick. Lyndsey leaves and we've outthunk ourselves.

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37. "Kim J."
Preview for Ep 4 says that Samburu is still battling it out over gender lines; I don't think this would happen if one group or other lost a member in Ep 3. Also, preview for Ep 4 states that two members of Boran are equally worried about getting booted...that would be the leftover woman (of Kim/Kelly) or Clarence (whose position in the tribe may be assured simply for his strength, but HE is clearly worried about going, and has been since Ep1). I think Kim J. would go before Kelly, for age/fitness/personality reasons. So, buh-bye Kim J! (and take your thong with you...ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew)
(oh, but please GOD have Lex wearing one....*drool*)

"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

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38. "Brandon"
Beatrice, get yee to Heaven, heres no place for you maids...and away to Saint Peter's for the Heavens, he shows me where the bachelors sit, and there live we as merry as the day is long -Much Ado About Nothing

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39. "Kelly"
I already feel like this shoould be my last prediction. I have been way off before. I feel I may be off again. But my fingers are crossed


I believe she has been the last person to not know how the vote is going to go beforehand, aside from the booties....Whom, IMO, haven't seem so suprised. Kelly, although friendly, has not formed an alliance of any sort.

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40. "Kim (J.)"
Just because there are too many Kims on this godforsaken show. Not to mention substantial spoiler evidence...
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41. "Kim J"
kim just cause
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42. "MommaKim"
Peace & God Bless
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43. "Kim J."
I'm with those who see Boran losing 4 in a row...

"At times like these, I'm glad I live in a geodesic dome. Not that they're anthrax-proof or anything. They're just fun to live in." - The Onion

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44. "Vote Totals So Far"
This is post number 44, with 42 votes cast. No new rules violations to report. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Totals
Kim J. 21
Brandon 15
Clarence 4
Lindsay 1
Kelly 1

Corporal O'Reilly
Massa Tom & the Gang


*smooches Supes again and says, "I will not be ignored!"*

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45. "Clarence"
It is time for him to go.

Mr. SherpaDave, I should point out that it was ivoryElephant who broke the rule instead of wendyp and I hope the wrong person is not getting flogged tonight.

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46. "Brandon"
Since I can't seem to wrap my brain around the 3-tribe theory or even an 8-2 or 7-3 merge, I'm guessing a Samburutian will exit this week. Brandon's food pilfering will do him in. Meat and even Lil' Kim will vote him out 6-2.
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47. "Kim J."
The aerial pictures show the yellow Boran dung ball in the lead. Editing to mislead the viewer to conclude a Boran victory…Conclusion: Boran loses the IC.

The post IC pictures are ambiguous, but put in context, Tom is tired and dejected, Ethan the soccer player, puts on his good sportsmanship face and says “good game” in defeat. Kim J. and Kelly hug to console each other because they know that one of them must go this week. Brandon breaths a sigh of relief because he just dodged a bullet...Conclusion: Boran loses the IC.

Lindsay's injury is a red herring. Lindsay is safe...Conclusion: Samburu are safe.

EP4 Preview text states..."the generation gap CONTINUES to split loyalties among the young and old." suggesting that the basic relationships and group dynamics have not changed significantly...Conclusion: Samburu safe in EP3.

EP4 Preview text also states..."Meanwhile 2 members of Boran tribe who are especially nervous about being the next to be voted out of the tribe make SEPERATE attempts to stay in the game." The 2 Boran members are especially nervous because they are more vulnerable and more desperate now that the tribe is down to 5. They make "SEPERATE attempts" because they do not have a strong bond, suggesting Clarence and either KIM J. or KELLY...Conclusion: Boran loses another female member in EP3.

Dangerkitty’s thread on the interview following EP4 suggests that Kelly will go in EP4 and is therefore not the female Boran to go this week…Conclusion: Kim J. gets the boot in EP3.


Episode 5: “The Twist”
You've seen the show
And think you know the game
But this being Survivor
Things aren't always the same
So tune in to see
Who's the one they dismiss
This is definitely the episode
You don't want to miss

A Sweep by the Samburu sets up a situation for things that "aren’t the same". The twist is the result of something new and I am speculating that the Samburu finally go to TC in EP5 and end in a 4-4 deadlocked vote, with no previous votes cast. This situation would require a “twist” to resolve the deadlock and determine who to “dismiss”.Conclusion: regardless of what the twist is, it results from a Samburu sweep leading up to it.

The post IC pictures still bother me, but all the pieces fit togther to paint a fairly clear picture...Goodbye Momma Kim.

Krautboy

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48. "Teresa"
I have my reasons
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49. "Mama Kim"
I would really like to see what would MB would do if the Boran Tribe were left with only 4 members after losing the first 4 ICs. I see Mama Kim as the next likely target as her tribe's weakest link, followed by either Kelly or Clarence. Time will tell the tale...
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50. "Brandon"
alt MommaKim
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51. "Mama Kim"
She lost the RC last week. If Boran does lose the IC again, then I think she's gone.

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52. "Kim J"
Kimmi theory.... (most obvious to boot)

I buy the 3 tribes thing....

boran lose 4 strait ICs and at ep 5 there are 12 ppl.....
just the number needed for a 3-way split.....


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53. "MamaKim"
I just don't think Boran can beat Samburu in a physical challenge.
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54. "Mama Kim...."
and sorry for my intolerable acts of last week. I will try harder from now on, I promise
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55. "Buh-bye BRANDON"
But please leave them your chapstick!
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56. "Kim J."
Ok, first I offer my humble apologies for breaking the thread rules last week. I suck, you rule. Uh oh. I just realized that next week we get a giddy Superman on Halloween for the vote thread. This week, interpretive dance. Next week......

Ummm, back to my reason for the vote. I think Samburu will sweep the next few IC's and we'll see the elusive twist because of that. A girl is definitely next to go for Boran based on the "lazy" comments and the screw ups in challenges. I'm weighing in on Kim J. this week based on dk's Kelly spoiler.

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57. "MamaKim"
If Boran loses another IC, and I think they will (for all the reasons already stated by others), then it's Kim who goes. She is the most obvious weak link, and of course I must use my own "spoiler" that Kelly goes in Ep 4, so that means Kim goes Ep 3. Although just for the record, I realize that the teacher interview could mean that she STAYS in Ep 4, and it's a "spotlight on the local girl in the game" deal. I wish I had more info to share. Selfishly, I hope it's true, though, so I can for once be famous for a big spoiler hehehehe.



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58. "Mama Kim"
Couldn't believe that anyone could lose four in a row but it the two players worried at Boran and DK's post on Kelly convinced me.
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59. "Tom "
Kim J and Kelly know they're in trouble. Get Clarence to vote Tom with them. Ethan and Lex go for the weakest woman (Kelly or Kim J). Tom thinks he can give Clarence his warning vote once again. Tom - 3 votes, Clarence 1 vote, one of the girls = 2 votes.

Now that would be great TV!

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60. "Brandon"
I'm tired of trying to figure this one out. I don't have a clue.

For some reason, I just don't have a good feeling about MamaKim going this week. I think the 2 people worried next week are MamaKim and Kelly.

Too much time has been invested in this "battle of the ages" thing on Samburu - the payoff will happen this week.

Brandon is worthless - and I think his lack of cigarettes must be making him pretty damn cranky by now. The cooking will be the last straw.

But for the record - I can't ever remember feeling less certain of a pick.


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61. "Kelly"
Seem to be going against the popular vote here but my gut tells me this is the way to go. I belive Boran will lose the next two IC's setting the stage for the "twist." So I focused on who was most likely in Boran...
For me it is Kelly

I don't think DangerKitty's info can be discounted but I also don't see it having any effect on the boot order for this week or any other. I think the local news station taped that interview to use during November sweeps...I do not think they know when her boot will be. It probably wasn't a bad move for a news station because when she gets the boot tonight they will just happen to have a little footage about her laying around they can hype up and show on the 11oclock tonight.
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62. "Brandon"
Can't believe how many people picked him last week. Can't believe how few are picking him this week.
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63. "Brandon"


God Bless America



There are two types of people, predators and prey, and the sound you hear is the sharpening of my claws.

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64. "Sgt. Franklin"
Looking at it logically (which may be my downfall...) The S tribs SHOULD lose today... as per Silas...

"Frank should be the one to go first"

So... Considering Silas will be the swing vote...

Frank goes back to Odessa.

Alternate pick, If Franklin doesnt go, Ms. Brandi will go.

-LML

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65. "RE: Brandon"
I think MB is going to choose a challenge he's pretty sure the morons can win.

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66. "MamaKim"
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67. "Kim J"
Jumping on the Samburu Immunity sweep bandwagon ~
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69. "Brandon"
I just HAVE to be right one of the next 14 weeks - let it be this one!!!
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71. "Vote totals to here"
Kim J - 32
Brandon - 23
C.B. - 5
Kelly - 2
Lindsey - 1
Theresa - 1
Drill Sgt. Frank - 1
Massa Tom - 1

Everyone elses is still O'Rielly's ##### (get it - under the RADAR). Yea, yea, what do you know from funny.

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72. "MommaKim"
She will cause the tribe to lose the IC once again.
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73. "MamaKim"
Tink is jumping on the bandwagon...I believe DK's spoiler about Kelly next week...and I think it's KEWL that DK is famous on another board!

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74. "Brandon"
Okay... here's the deal:

Boran wins IC

1) Challenges typically alternate physical/non-physical.

Thus, this week RC will be non-physical and IC will be physical.

We have pictures of Boran seemingly celebrating at what might be the ball-rolling site, thus Boran wins.

2) Now that Boran has lost two in a row, look for MB to introduce a challenge (a la S2 Maze) to try to even things back up. Samburu's larger tribe will somehow be a liability in the challenge, not an asset.

3) Preview focusses on Lindsey's illness, so this will clearly be a focal point of this episode...

4) Last week focussed on Samburu's alliances... MB wouldn't have introduced the concept *too early* before they come into play. Look for these alliances to make a difference in tonight's episode... at the vote.

5) Gut feeling... can't explain it.


Brandon booted:

The old folks alliance is strong, and has Silas in tow... for now... but watch for it to crumble when everyone gets tired of Frank, while Carl starts to get to know Little Bit.

Little Bit is safe, cause she isn't known as Little Bit yet.

Lindsey is safe, cause she's this week's decoy bootee (due to her "injury", which I predict to be short-lived and not worth the hype given to it).

That leaves Brandon... bye!


You never know what might be up my sleeeve...

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75. "Momma Kim"
Ok, I really have no idea...But I think the previews point to Lindsey (decoy) to make us think that Boran finally wins an IC..but NO..next weeks preview says 2 Boran are worried about being voted out, not 3, so Boran loses one of the worried this week.
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76. "KimJ"
I'm tired of tying myself in knots trying to make sense of so little information. Unless the wimmenz get wise and vote for Clarence, I believe MamaKim is gone. Yes, it appears that the Morons are winning that IC, but that's probably typical MB misdirection.

I DO believe chapstick boy is the one who dares to cook for his friends (what--did NONE of these guys bother watching last season?!!!)--no way it could happen again with the Morons, right?--so Brandon will be the first to go when his tribe is finally up for TC.

And I think the first big "twist" is going to be having to deal with uneven numbers between the tribes--but I'll be damned if I can figure out for sure which theory is going to prove correct on that one. . . I'm afraid that after that whole LC fiasco, I'm a sucker for each and every story that involves LOGIC, which we've been sorely deprived of. . .

GT

(Oooh, lookie! DK isn't satisfied with her "Goddess of Words" gig--she's looking to conquer the world! Go, kitty, go!)

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77. "Kim Of Boran (aka Kim J., aka MamaKim, aka Old Kim)"
LAST EDITED ON 10-25-01 AT 03:59 PM (EST)

>SherpaDave.....and SurvivorBlows!

What -- what did I do wrong, I just checked, my reply was perfect.

Ok, what can I say -- this week is very difficult (again -- come on Burnett, throw the viewers some bones before they desert you.)

We all know what happens this week -- Boran gets visited by lions, Brandon cooks some food for the Mallrats while the Older Folks Alliance (OFA to you and me) goes for water. Silas continues to struggle with whether he should join the Mallrats or the OFA. Lindsey starts feeling severe pain due to dehydration. The tribes roll around some big-ass paper-mache-like "dung balls," and then later (in the scariest Survivor scene since the Dique's birthday episode) Boran strips damn near naked and we get another great look at Tom (parent's please put the kiddies to bed early.)

Anyways, if Samburu loses I have little doubt that Brandon goes. The question is whether Samburu loses.

In my opinion, the vidcap evidence this week is highly inconclusive. Because of that, I've decided to put greater stock in the Ep4 and Ep5 TV listing descriptions that we do have access to:

Episode 4: "A member of the Samburu tribe cracks under pressure
as the generation gap continues to split loyalties among the
young and old. Meanwhile 2 members of Boran tribe who are
especially nervous about being the next to be voted out of the
tribe make separate attempts to stay in the game. A trip to the
watering hole becomes a dangerous stand-off with an animal known
to be one of the deadliest in the area."

Episode 5: "You've seen the show And think you know the game
But this being Survivor Things aren't always the same
So tune in to see Who's the one they dismiss
This is definitely the episode You don't want to miss"

Looking at Ep4's description, I find it EXTREMELY interesting. First off, the description says BORAN is the tribe of the "two nervous survivors." We know Lex, Ethan, and Tom are all in an alliance and therefore have little reason to likely worry during the next several days (unless Clarence, Kim, and Kelly were to team up at an Ep3 TC and vote one of Lex, Tom, or Ethan off, in which case the remaining two would certainly be nervous.) We KNOW Clarence, Kelly, and Kim already were nervous in the days leading up to the LAST COUNCIL and there is no reason to believe they would be less nervous this time.

Therefore the following question emerges -- why would ONLY TWO Boran's be nervous in Ep4? If Boran didn't go to council in Ep3, then no matter which way you look at it, THREE Boran's should be nervous in Ep 4 -- either Tom, Lex, and Ethan are worried about the case of Clarence defecting to Kim and Kelly (although the men shouldn't worry too much since Clarence would likely lose a tiebreaker) or Clarence, Kim, or Kelly all continuing to worry about the next vote (just as they have been starting since Ep 2.)

The only way I can see ONLY TWO Boran's not being nervous is if one of Clarence, Kim, or Kelly is GONE by Ep 4. Yes, I understand the agrument that all six might still be there and Clarence is just arrogantly convinced that he'll remain, but I'm not buying it. Let's look at another of the above words: "separate attempts." If Kim and Kelly were both still in the Boran tribe (along with Clarence) at the time of Ep 4, I believe they would *NOT* be making separate attempts -- I think they would be JOINTLY trying to convince Ethan/Tom/Lex to vote out Clarence at the next vote. The only way I see only two Boran's being nervous and those two Boran's making separate attempts is if they are Kelly and Clarence (meaning a Kim boot in Ep 3,) Kim and Clarence (meaning a Kelly boot in Ep 3,) or Kim and Kelly (meaning a Clarence boot in Ep 3.)

The bottom line is that based on the Ep 4 description, I can't foresee a logical situation in which that description would be valid and Boran could still have SIX tribe members. Granted, the description could be a complete red herring, but you have to choose to believe something, and I'm going to choose to believe that the description is valid.

Therefore, the list comes down to Clarence, Kim, or Kelly going in Episode #3. At this point and time I am still a believer that the men are going to desperately keep Clarence around for another vote (unless of course the lack of protein causes his body to begin to completely crumble,) hoping against hope that his strength will help them finally win a IC challenge. As such, either Kelly or MamaKim's head will be on the block -- and due to her perceived lack of strength, as well as what I see as Kelly's friendliness with other other Borans -- MAMAKIM will be sent packing.

(yes, that's right folks, there is DISSENSION in the Blue Man Group -- with AyaK yet to way in, we're already split 2/1!)

For our alternate pick this week, I'm going to operate under the assumption that all the above is COMPLETELY WRONG and therefore pick BRANDON as our alternate selection

As far as the Reward Challenge, I agree with IceCat and others that this will be a subjective challenge and that Boran will win. Maybe the reward is some livestock and that's what brings the lions close to camp (and if so, maybe it forces them to eat it all quickly and therefore be VERY STRONG for the Ep4 challenge, but I'm getting ahead of myself... )

Anyways, that's it for this week -- to recap:

RC Winner: Boran
IC Winner: Samburu
Bootee Pick: MamaKim
Alternate Bootee Pick: Brandon

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78. "Mama Kim"
I'm tired of racking my brain trying to come up with a logical pick -- all I guess it comes down to is, I think Boran will win the RC but lose the IC, and the weakest link (again) will be the one to go.

But just in case they pull through (and I hope hope they do), alternate pick is Brandon.


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79. "Clarence"
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80. "Clarence"
5Foot3 runs her fingers through her long hair and wonders what she did wrong in her previous posts.....
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81. "Brandon"
Boredom wins the IC. Brandon You Are The Weakest Link. Goodbye.
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82. "Mama Kim"
just because.
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84. "BRANDON...."
That's my vote.
<EOM>

Dalton

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85. "Kim J."
The Boran lose three in a row and it is time for another Boran female to bow out. Who knows....?
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86. "Brandumb"
Because I'm buying into the Boran IC victory...hell, even Ogakor won a friggen IC once or twice.

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87. "MamaKim Boran"
I don't why, I really have no clue.
Love the dance Superman!!!!!!!
Very Sexy.

Oh and Webby? Is this a discussion thread? I think not.
*giggle* always wanted to do that.
Who wants to order Lunch?


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88. "Clarence"
OK, let me start off with a qualifier -- I really haven't been paying attention this week. But I can't sit this one out.

I still believe the "Boran wipeout" theory, for the same reason Webby cites: the teaser for E4 says only 2 members of Boran are extremely concerned about their status. If Boran won IC, three members would be concerned: MamaKim, Kelly and C.B. Therefore, I think they lose the IC (after winning the RC, too!).

So who do they boot? Well, they can either boot the weakest (MamaKim), the most useless (Kelly), or the outcast (Clarence). They've kept Clarence around because they learned the Kel lesson. But now they see their third straight IC loss. And this is a mental IC, at which Clarence may well be useless.

Anyway, it comes down to this: Boran has tied the record losing streak with Clarence around. They haven't won an IC yet. They can't do any worse without him. MamaKim can keep cooking for another week.

Next week: a fourth Boran goes, and MB searches for a contingency plan to save the show, which he'll pull out in Week 5: an early merger, due to the hazards of a four-person tribe needing to maintain two sentries.

Oh, last point -- I believe that if, by some miracle, Boran were to WIN the IC, Samburu would boot the Linzmeister first. But she's been all over MB's promos while cramping this week. So... I have to believe Samburu doesn't get the boot. Tensions are going to get hot inside Samburu.

That may not be what happens. But it was a lot of fun making it up!

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89. "Vote totals so far ...."
LAST EDITED ON 10-25-01 AT 07:14 PM (EST)

This is post #89, containing 84 votes. MamaKim increases her lead!

Mama Kim.........43
Brandon...........27
Clarence...........8
Kelly.................2
Lindsey.............1
Theresa............1
Frank...............1
Tom.................1

UTR: Ethan, Lex, Carl, Kim P., Linda (!), Silas.

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90. "MamaKim"
Not much real evidence.
Going with Webby this week.
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91. "Linda"
sorry if i voted twice i don't know if it worked a second ago
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92. "Mamakim"
I know the Bandwagon lost last week, but it's what makes sense to me. I'm swayed by the future TV guide listings too.

Hate to go against AyaK (sign #1 I'm likely to be wrong) but:
BeMorons lose, Mamakim is not that useful. Surely one of the others can cook. We haven't seen the usual focus on cooking this time, so it may not be as important this time. Maybe people have fewer arguments about maize, lower expectations than with rice. I think the 3 guys believe Clarence's strength makes him useful--still. They have been losing by such a small margin that they likely think the weakest player continues to drag them down.

Gonna go out on a limb and say Samburu wins the boulder RC, and that Jiffy is talking to the Samburus about water delivery afterwards while the BeMorons wander dejectedly. So maybe Lindsey crashes before the water's delivered and then revives. I think she gets hospitalized later and most likely immediately after her boot or removal from the game--not now.

I don't think Brandon has had enough face time. I can tell MB likes his character from the interviews and if he's gone this early I would have expected a little more footage of him. Like we got a lot of Varner early on because he was entertaining and left mid-game.

Alternate pick: Brandon


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93. "Brandon"
I think I'll agree that Boran wins the RC, but I'm going against the tide on the IC. While we see Boran members getting run over by the ball, let's look at last week's "stair master" challenge. The previews showed a pole slipping during the process. I remember someone here saying "if it slipped 19 times, and the other one slipped 20, what difference does one slip make?" Sure enough, both teams showed at least one "pole slipping". Anyway, I think the "rollover" shots are head fakes, along with the DK story about Kelly's interview material. Just don't see it happening that way. So Boran wins both this week, Samburu goes to vote. Haven't decided how exactly it'll work, but the older members will win, and get rid of that annoying little twit Brandon...
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