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12-09-03, 02:40 AM (EST)
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"When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
When Adam and Melana were in the limo in NYC, and she balked at kissing him and said she was confused, I knew right then it was over form Adam, especially after viewing the way she kissed Jason.

Do the women on this board agree? I think kissing is extremely important to women, and if a woman doesn't want to kiss you, or if your in a relationship with her, and she starts to give you less intimate kisses, its over!

Also, when she kept talking to Adam in the third person, as in "You will make a great family man, or your going to make some woman very happy" ect., rather than expressing her feelings towards him, that was another big clue it wasn't in the cards for Adam. Agree?

Finally, for those women who prefer Adam, do any of you have model looks like Melana? (be truthful now!)

Thanks for your replies!

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 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... Chris 12-09-03 1
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... ego 12-09-03 2
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... D 12-09-03 6
       RE: When I new it was definitely ov... LeftPinky 12-09-03 11
           RE: When I new it was definitely ov... D 12-09-03 13
           RE: When I new it was definitely ov... Tiger Lily 12-10-03 22
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... mnkylv 12-09-03 3
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... Savory Truffle 12-13-03 29
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... id 12-09-03 5
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... ChibiMichiru 12-09-03 7
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... Loree 12-09-03 15
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... heracane 12-09-03 8
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... D 12-09-03 9
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... kryp 12-09-03 12
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... Loree 12-09-03 16
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... ValleyGirl 12-09-03 10
 Day 1 Angelfood 12-09-03 14
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... geg6 12-09-03 17
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... ladro 12-09-03 18
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... MizLiz 12-09-03 19
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... warp_core breach 12-09-03 20
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... Mookiemoo 12-09-03 21
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... DRONES 12-10-03 23
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... cheri26158 12-10-03 24
   RE: When I new it was definitely ov... escapedude 12-12-03 25
       RE: When I new it was definitely ov... Chrissy gal 12-12-03 26
       RE: When I new it was definitely ov... ego 12-12-03 27
 RE: When I new it was definitely ov... CyberCooties 12-13-03 28

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Chris 20 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-03, 02:51 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
The one moment when I became completely certain that it was over for Adam was when Melana gave him that gift on their last date. She knew she wasn't going to pick him and felt that she needed to let him know he was appreciated.
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12-09-03, 02:56 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
i think jason knew she was gonna pick him because he kept assuring her he wasn't jealous of ther dates with adam and she kinda gave him that look like 'yeah i know but i still had to go'....does that make sense?

i can't compare myself to melana cuz i'm not the cute and perky type, i'm a redhead and more of a smoldering sexy type lol. but i liked zach anyways, so it doesn't really matter what i look like.

<zach haters attack now>

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12-09-03, 07:04 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 07:05 AM (EST)

Yeah, I said to my wife that that photo was the consolation prize. Like the pen from "Say Anything".

And you got to hand it to Melana, she's got some chutzpah giving him a picture of them when she knew she was picking Jason. I'm sure she thought he'd just cherish it forever, his one shot at the hot chick and a photo to remember it all by.

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12-09-03, 09:23 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I thought it was a horrible gift... "Here you poor ugly schmuck, put this picture of you with a beautiful girl that you can't have in your home. I don't care if you have bucks, I don't like your looks."

He's sooooo lucky she picked Jason. Adam will do very well on his own....

FYI - Mr & Mrs Pinky are average Joe/Jane

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12-09-03, 09:47 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
It was truly pitiful. I hope he at least saved the frame though.
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12-10-03, 03:15 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I don't know why she thought he'd even want that picture.

"Here, have a picture of the two of us together, so every time you look at it, you can remember me dumping you, and you having to ride home on a tour bus while Jason and I fly off into the sunset."

LOL. I guarantee that picture went into the trash the first chance he got.

BTW, I am definitely no model, but would have chosen Adam any day, even cute as Jason was.


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12-09-03, 03:02 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
Good for you! I thought he had a chace of saving it on their overnight date; until I saw them in the pool. She just didn't have the same look in her eyes that she had with Jason. There was no chemistry.
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12-13-03, 04:45 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
The pool was terrible. Did you notice how her toes were all clenched and curled in nearly all the pool shots? IMHO she was very clearly not at all relaxed about being wrapped up in his arms there. Completely opposite from a few weeks ago when she was sitting on the couch with Jason, almost too relaxed to keep her eyes open saying things like "I don't care what I say..." or something like that.

I also agree that the picture was the kiss of death. Especially along with the comments she made, something along the lines of "I owed him...." You don't worry about "oweing" people shortly before you ride off into the sunset with them.

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12-09-03, 03:07 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
The entire time I was watching tonight I kept telling my husband there was no way I could pick Adam (though Jason didn't do it for me either--I liked the cute model guy). As disappointing as the ending was, it *was* truthful.
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12-09-03, 07:26 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 07:28 AM (EST)

I completely 100% agree with you, Greg. You could just tell that she was avoiding kissing him and only doing it once in a while to be nice or when it felt like she should.

My husband says that I look a lot like Melana. (I don't think I am as cute has her, but I do have to blond hair blue eyes thing going). I am married to an "Average Joe". He is not a gorgeous super model or anything, but you know what? He treats me like gold and that is what really matters. Adam would of treated Melana so good, and he obviously adored her.

From what I could tell Melana and Jason didn't have much chemistry at all. It was all sexual and that was obvious. They acted like they could care a less what the other one was talking about, they just sat there and stared at each others "pretty" face.

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12-09-03, 10:37 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
Melana and Jason seemed to have that initial lust/chemistry. The type that makes them want to stare at each other but it doesn't usually last. I think it was a purely physical attraction. They couldn't keep their hands off each other. But once they get used to each other's looks they will be bored and move on.
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12-09-03, 07:33 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
Yes I agree, I knew it was over for him then. I think Melena did him a favor by not picking him. I think he is too much of a real person for her. She would not be the center of his attention all the time, she was jealous that his friends were hugging him and talking to him and not fawning and cooing all over her..

I modeled in my early 20's (i'm 32 now) and I have dated handsome model looking type guys, and I have dated average joes. I married an average joe who after our divorce told me he really only was physically attracted to me and once I had kids and my body went from 10 to 7 it was over. He never cared about my personality, or what it was that I was passionate about.

So average joes can be shallow, Himbos can be shallow

I am lucky to have a wonderful boyfriend now that is just perfect for me. Ruggedly handsome, smart, down to earth and mature.

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12-09-03, 07:42 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
A lot of these AJ's did come off shallow, even Adam to a degree, although I sympathize with him. Whereas himbo Jason just came off as plain old BORING!
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12-09-03, 09:25 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I'm an average Joe who is married to a woman who doesn't have the perfect body anymore, but she has always been extraordinarily attractive and still gets compliments from strangers. I thought she was my ideal woman 11 years ago and I still do. We connected on so many levels and we met just at the right time in our lives. I often think that had we met in our 20's when we still had a lot of growing up to do, we wouldn't have made it.
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16. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I think we all love to date an extremely attractive person. It is great for our ego to be seen with someone so attractive. But looks fade. No matter how attractive a person is, they have their off days and once the looks become average to us there better be a personality to keep us intrigued. Afterall you can't admire a person's looks in the dark.
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10. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
It was over for Adam when Jason walked onto the studio set, M's eyes almost bugged out of her head.
M definitely didn't seem at all passionate with Adam, it seemed like she only kissed him to be nice, so he wouldn't feel bad.
On the Today show, Adam even admitted after seeing the show tapes that M & J had alot more chemistry between them. Adam said he has moved on and is dating someone, maybe a Valley Girl?


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12-09-03, 10:09 AM (EST)
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14. "Day 1"
Funny,
I thought it was over for them when mike got out of the Limo and Melana asked him to come back.
Before it even started.

RollDdice creation

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17. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I pretty much thought it was over when Jason walked into the room the very first time. She was practically salivating over him. I knew for sure exactly when they were in Adam's bedroom and she was so shocked at his real life and said "I guess I never asked." If you are truly interested in a guy, this would be something you would want to know about.

I don't think I have model looks, but my man sure thinks I do. I have never had trouble getting men to notice me if I want them to....gorgeous himbos and average joes alike.

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12-09-03, 01:49 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I agree with those that said Adam never had a chance. I first determined that Jason was going to win when on their first 'date' when Mel asked Jason if he 'liked only girls'. Mel would have never asked this of a man on camera unless he was her first choice.
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19. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I knew it was over for Adam when Melana went on and on about how gorgeous, cute, adorable, pretty etc Jason was. God, could the woman be any more shallow??? Of course, when you're beautiful and people have been fawning over you your entire life, maybe she believes that's all that is important.

Me, I'm horribly average.....built like a peasant, mind like a steel trap, earn more than most men, and have had three husbands. #3 is the final one...been married for 21 years and we're in it till one of us dies! I feel sorry for Melana....when she loses her looks (and she WILL) she'll probably be tempted to end it all.

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20. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
Historically, it's always over for the guy when the girl says how funny the guy is and how much he makes her laugh... Adam, Munch... A man with a sense of humour need not apply!!
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21. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
I think that Jason had more in common with her, as noted by the vist to Jasons home. Remeber her puting the push pin in her home state on his map telling him he would be visiting there soon? that was a pretty good solid indication her decision was made. reguadless of looks a small town girl from out west and a outgoing NJ/NYer dont really connect on the same planes regaurdless of the looks. She picked the guy she had better chemistry, other then enjoying adams friendship and personality they had zero romantic sparks before jason ever even appeared on the show.
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23. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
When they introduced the twist with the 3 not-so-average joes; that's when I knew it was over for Adam.
I don't ever want to hear people say that looks don't matter to women and that it's all about personality etc.

``Looks are fourth and fifth down the list (for women),'' Krasnow said. ``Sense of humor and having a job and being intelligent comes way above that. The men on the other hand . . . you ask them what they're looking for in a woman, nine out of 10 times, looks is the first thing. Men are more `lookist,' if you will.''--Boston Herald

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24. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
Melana couldn't hide her feelings for Adam, which was nothing. She actually was attracted to Zach. That is her type, good looking arrogant or good looking and humble like Jason. The average Joe part of this was something she did to keep the show going and bolster her career. Her eye contact with Adam was was abysmal to say the least. In every shot where they are alone, she would look at him to make a statement and look away from him as he was answering. The heart can't sing what isn't there. From what I can see of Melana, Adam would have not been able to tolerate her much more than a New York minute if he was chosen. He put up boundaries in the car when she was inappropriate. Bravo for him. She and Jason were on Jay Leno last night. She was improving him as she said. Doing his eyebrows yada, yada, poor guy. He really won.
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25. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
>>>>>Historically, it's always over for the guy when the girl says how funny the guy is and how much he makes her laugh... Adam, Munch... A man with a sense of humour need not apply!!<<<<<

Thats ridiculous. Women love a guy with great sense of humor.

As far as looks go it is all relative...The prettier you are male or female the more important looks are for you ..IMHO..

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26. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
>>As far as looks go it is all relative...The prettier you are male or female the more important looks are for you ..IMHO.. <<

I would say:

The prettier you think you are, male or female, the more important looks are for you.

Chrissy gal

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27. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
and if you don't think your guy is pretty enough for you, then you can always dress him up and do his hair to your specifications.

i do that all the time. my guy dresses like a freak without me!

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28. "RE: When I new it was definitely over for Adam - ladies concur? (men's opinons welcome)"
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-03 AT 03:50 AM (EST)

Yeah, like that. Maybe even before, her laugh was forced, didn't seem to want to be around him or was that into him and other body language indicators.

Adam was too nice to be strung along like that. If she wanted to string someone along, she should have kept Zachass in until the end.


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