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"DOOL"
AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-11-03, 06:50 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: DOOL" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-11-03 AT 07:27 PM (EST)I only watch it if I'm off of work, like today, but yes, Abe, Jack and Maggie are all dead. As to the serial killer, they have "the usual suspects"... Rex, Sammie, Lucas, Kate, Nicole and Tony DiMera. There might be someone I've missed, but I think that's it. My personal feeling is it'll be none of the above. Probably the freak that kidnapped Hope last summer, then took the fall (for a price) for Nicole when she killed Colin. Can't remember his name. Edited to add the freak's name is Larry Welch. I knew I'd think of it sooner or later.
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-11-03, 07:57 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: DOOL" |
I love all soaps. I have watched DOOL off and on since I was five. I am so saddened that they are killing off the veterans. If you want to know who is next, check out TV Guide online and you an find who is next.Personally, I think Rex is a red herring. There is no way he is the murderer. I have two suspects. Tek and Adrienne, I mean Bonnie, Mimi's mom. Tek because he is integrating well into Salem. Bonnie, because they have established that it is someone that everyone knows. Another actress portrayed Mimi's mom a few years ago and she was introduced to all of Salem then.\ This story will be going through the spring. And a little spoiler, it's a good week for Sami and Lucas fans....
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-12-03, 10:13 AM (EST)
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4. "SPOILER - More victims revealed here" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-12-03 AT 10:14 AM (EST)OK, you've been warned. My source is http://www.soapoperafan.com/days/, in case you're wondering where I got the names of the upcoming victims. But I'll add some more space, just in case you really, really, don't want to know. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes, Caroline is next, and she will be poisoned.
Three more victims have already been identified, and two of them shocked me when I found out: Cassie, TONY, and ROMAN. And yes, they're all really, most sincerely dead. We really do have guidelines here. Believe it or not, the Guidelines make things more fun. Really.
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-12-03, 01:11 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: SPOILER - More victims revealed here" |
The only one (besides Jack) that will really annoy me, is Tony. How many times are they going to kill him off? What a waste. I can't stand Chris Kosichek as Roman anyway, good riddance. He ruined that character. Killing Maggie was just plain mean, she's been around forever, I mean, how much would it really have cost them to keep her around for holidays and stuff. Who's next, Alice? *gasp*
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11-13-03, 11:00 AM (EST)
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14. "Now that sounds like a story..." |
...that I absolutely must hear!LMAO @ Carolyn being poisoned by one of Alice's donuts! Priceless! I read somewhere that Kimberley is coming back ~ I hope it's only for a short visit so we don't have to listen to all her whining again. Another one of my favorite couples was Mike and Carrie. With all these deaths in Salem maybe they should make a trip back to pay their respects.
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-12-03, 07:39 PM (EST)
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9. "Seven" |
They are only killing seven off. But yes, those are the ones. But hey, Tony and Roman both came back before from the dead, they can do it again.I would love to see Patch back. He just got fired from GH, so maybe he will come back. Kayla though, she has a recurring role on ATWT which is filmed on the East Coast. She rocks there too. Speaking of Alice, they better keep her on. They FIRED the 90 year old Anna Lee, Lila on GH. She is on maybe once a month and they fired her. That's just wrong.
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AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-12-03, 09:57 PM (EST)
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12. "Brady and Nicole?" |
So, what do you all think of this potential pairing? I know that the two actors who portray Brady and Nicole are a real-life couple, but it just seems kinda slimey and icky to have those two get together.Brady: Grandpa, I swear I'll never *do* your wife, my step-grandmother. Victor: Brady, I believe you. It's that slutty wife of mine I don't trust. Nicole: Brady. I want you. Victor. I hate you. But most of all I love myself. And my bank account, of course. Now, getting back to the serial killer..... won't be upset if they off Tony or Roman. To kill Cassie just seems mean. Yeah, she's weird, but wouldn't you be if you landed in Salem in a pod?
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11-13-03, 09:13 AM (EST)
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13. "Killing Cassie" |
They pretty much have to kill her off. She's related to practically every man in Salem, so there is absolutely no love story line potential for her. No love story/crazy triangle/quadrangle and you're out of there.
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AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-15-03, 08:26 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Q" |
>I still somehow keep thinking that >this whole thing does tie >in to Rex and Cassie >somehow. The missing link is, >where is Stephano? as much >as i liked him being >dead, he obviously isn't, so >we may have (sigh) another >grand plot involving him... You KNOW Stephano is behind this! But I think the guy who plays Stephano (his name escapes me) is on another soap. sheesh. as soon as >i start writing about this >stuff, i can't believe i'm >writing about this stuff! LOL Isn't that the truth!
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-15-03, 09:10 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Stephano" |
I think Joe Mascolo recently signed a contract there so he is staying. However, in SOD a while ago, they did a swap. The actress who plays Kate used to be Margo there. She appeared for a day there. They agreed that Stefano would come back for a breif time. He never did. This may be when they allow him back.I thought about this too. What if the killer is Hope? She was brainwashed by him. What if she was "activated" again and Stefano came back to de-brainwash her. Just an idea. I am still saying Tek or Adrienne I mean Bonnie. What is up with them bringing back actors who played other characters?
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-16-04, 08:55 PM (EST)
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133. "RE: Rumors!" |
Since Joe Mascolo is currently playing Massimo on B&B, it will be hard to get him on a long term basis.However, he does have a 2 day deal with Days to come back. So who knows. Patch said he would come back if asked. Remember, his coffin was empty when he was buried
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Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-17-04, 01:20 PM (EST)
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134. "RE: Rumors!" |
I had completly forgotten about the empty coffin, Thanks Trish!Stephano is such a better character than Massimo, I wonder how long Mascolo's contract is with BB. naming Tish the goddess of All Things Dool. Oh goddess - any word on Kayla? TummyBreez
a beautiful kyngsladye original Proud Member of the RBBRTFHLA/Sugar Ho Group
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Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-18-04, 08:20 AM (EST)
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137. "RE: Rumors!" |
Bebo - you are the goddess of goddesses. TummyBreez
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11-19-03, 09:54 AM (EST)
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26. "Yesterday " |
LAST EDITED ON 11-19-03 AT 11:05 AM (EST)Possible spoiler Did anyone else watch yesterday's episode...I am so tired of John and Roman that I could scream...but I loved the fact that Sami, Kate and Lucas were each others cover. Edited to add: Did it bother anyone else the way Marlana just proclaimed Caroline dead, and didn't have any one try CPR on her? I *heart* my J Slice Kittyloaf Holiday Creation
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babydoll126 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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01-08-04, 01:32 PM (EST)
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27. "days fans still out there?" |
phew i had to search to find this topic! well the spoilers above came true in that roman died on monday's show. i heard they will reveal the killer at the end of january? i think it has something to do with that girl (jan? not sure of her name) that hovers around belle and shawn.
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-09-04, 11:39 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: please please" |
More spoiler stuff, this time in invisible text. Scroll over the blank spot in this message to read.OK, here are some more tidbits I've heard. - There are rumors that one of the victims is not really dead. Some think that means Roman is still alive, but they're trying to figure out how to explain his ghost appearing to Celeste.- There's quite a bit of speculation that Marlena is the killer. Not Hattie posing as Marlena, but Marlena. - In Soap Opera Digest, the producer said he's going to be hated for the last killing, because of who will die. Most people think that points to Hope. There is a rumor that Frances Reid has agreed to be let out of her lifetime contract and that Alice will instead be the final victim, but more folks believe the Hope rumors. I am the embodiement of snarky, sarcastic and smart. I am also the S7 Anti-Bootee co-champion!
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-11-04, 11:47 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: please please" |
Maybe Roman comes back from the dead and HE ends up being the seriel killer and also ends up being a Roman imposter and John ends up being the real Roman after all. Then, the Roman that comes back from the dead kills Marlena because he can't have her being with the real Roman.
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babydoll126 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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01-13-04, 10:24 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: Unbiased: Identity of the Killer" |
it was actually roman who was killed after his wedding to kate BUT i think marlena has been acting odd like when she visited tony in jail and he kept saying she KNEW he was innocent and the real killer was still out there. also i don't think she grieved much when cassie was killed (and she was her artificially inseminated dna filled daughter/alien/whatever this week). does anyone think salemites must give birth to taltos babies (from anne rice's mayfair witch series). because one minute they are infants, then the next they are dating!
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-14-04, 01:42 PM (EST)
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47. "Salem Stalker" |
Yup, when the Salem Slasher (aka Chris Kosticheck's brother Jake) was on a killing spree, it looked like Marlena was one of his victims. Fans picketed the studio until it was revealed that her twin sister Samantha had been the victim instead. It was a credible way out, since Deidre Hall's real-life twin sister had been appearing every once in a while as Samantha, so it wasn't just a last minute rewrite.A few years back, Days brought back Andrea Hall-Lovell again, this time to play Hattie, a look-alike that Stephano was going to substitute for the real Marlena. Some have speculated that the switch has taken place, and that Hattie's the killer instead of Marlena, but spoiler information tends to refute that. For one thing, James Reilly specifically said that the killer is a major character, and there's no way Hattie could be considered a main character. I am the embodiement of snarky, sarcastic and smart. I am also the S7 Anti-Bootee co-champion!
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-14-04, 11:32 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Salem Stalker" |
I like it.
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-21-04, 12:34 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: SPOILER" |
In this week's Soap Opera Digest, one of the fired actor's let the cat out of the bag so to speak. I won't name names, but if it's true, shock waves will go through Salem. I have also heard that Victor will be let go soon.You know, if you lived in a small town and all your family was getting murdered, wouldn't you move????
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Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-27-04, 01:10 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: SPOILER" |
and Julie and Doug are idiots for coming back!Went to the site listed above and saw nothing. Looking in the wrong place I guess. Having not read any spoilers I'm going on observation from yesterday and who was where. It can't be Sami or Lexi or Celeste. Not Hope or Belle or the ditzy, booby, blonde (yep, still can't remember her name). I CAN be Marlena or Kate or Nicole. TummyBreez
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01-24-04, 11:24 PM (EST)
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56. "What's up with Lexie?" |
I thought Lexie might have been the killer for a long time. (spoilers have made me think differently) My theory was that Nicole killed Abe (over the whole Colin thing)and Lexie's guilt over their recent separation and her grief over losing Abe just when she had got him back sent her over the edge. I thought because everyone (with the exception of Cassie) was part of a super-couple (past or present) her grief drove her to kill off one of the spouses in these happy marriages because she lost her spouse. It was the old, "if I can't be happy no one can" motive. But, as many people pointed out to me, Bo and Hope's attack at the fashion show didn't fit into my theory so I was de-bunked! (and if the spoilers are correct, rightly so). But although she's probably not the killer, I think something is up with her telling Jennifer that she could die if she doesn't get rid of her baby. I personally think that Lexie is lying because she's jealous that Jennifer is pregnant and she's not. The whole thing just seemed really fishy to me.
And since when has Lexie become super-doc!? She's an OB, she's a pediatrician, she's the brain-dead specialist, she's basically the only doctor in that hospital! Come on DOOL bring back Mike so Lexie doesn't have work on EVERY SINGLE PATIENT! No wonder she went crazy!
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-26-04, 12:23 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: What's up with Lexie?" |
Don't you know, she is superwoman. She was a cop for a while, she went to law school for like two days and went to med school in two weeks. She really is superwoman.I believe killer is reavealed this week, but SOD already has it
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-27-04, 00:07 AM (EST)
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59. "RE: What's up with Lexie?" |
I think Days is almost going over the top with this whole circus, tiger mauling stuff. I'm not sure they are going to be able to keep me interested all the way until Christmas. They lost me before when Marlena was possessed, I hope they don't lose me again.
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AugustGirl 11534 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-27-04, 06:31 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: What's up with Lexie?" |
I get to watch it about once every two weeks. Today was one of those days. All I could think of while watching the girls screaming and screeching in the tiger cage was "could this get any cheesier". And it did get cheesier. The whole montage of Celeste "seeing" through the Slasher's eyes was bad. Just plain bad. I was actually looking forward to Passions coming on. And I think Passions is so bad it's pathetic, but it's currently better than DOOL.
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-28-04, 00:34 AM (EST)
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62. "RE: What's up with Lexie?" |
OMG, it could do a Velveeta commercial it is getting so cheesy. All the boys running around in their little tights and their bare chests. And I can't remember, but was Doug's acting that bad back when they were on before. He is sooo bad even by soap opera standards. I'm giving it another week to get out of the cheese factory and then I'm moving on. Yeah Right, who am I fooling, I will pull out the wine and crackers to watch my cheese. LOL
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-28-04, 07:32 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: What's up with Lexie?" |
LOL, I kept thinking Tony the Tiger too and thought I was just as stupid as the writers to even be thinking it. Thank God someone else did too. They did do the big reveal today. Of course it was in the last 10 seconds of the show. Tony looked up and said "I knew it was you" but apparently Salem doesn't find out yet who the killer is. What I found stupid was the fact that the security guard had no idea who she was. I mean, she has been walking around and seen with everyone else in Salem, yet he doesn't recognize her. But, I realize, it's not real life. LOL
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-29-04, 11:03 AM (EST)
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68. "RE: The Big Reveal" |
I still can not get over the fact that the stupid security guard did not know who she was.
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-29-04, 04:29 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: The Big Reveal" |
May i ask a stupid question? What do ya'll mean by "swoop"?
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-31-04, 10:40 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: The Big Reveal" |
Ah, got it. Thank You. I have lurked around in the off topic but never posted because everyone seemed to know everyone else. So I guess I recently swooped with my 100th post.
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-03-04, 10:41 AM (EST)
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77. "Whee!" |
Why can I figure this out, but not Survivor? Oh wait, it's scripted.
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-09-04, 11:10 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Victim SPOILER - not in inviso text" |
I dunno, but given who the next victim's going to be, I don't plan to tune in to find out. After all she's given to that show, she deserves a better send-off than this crap. Abe, Jack, Maggie, Doug, and now Alice? Those actors deserved better.And don't get me started about what they did to Victor. Snarky, smart, S7 Anti-Bootee Champ
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-10-04, 05:16 PM (EST)
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88. "I'm officially disgusted" |
This is beyond wrong on so many levels. It's bad enough that a long time character like Marlena is being completely ruined (AGAIN!) with this story, but killing off Alice is taking it beyond what is acceptable or tasteful.I'll admit that I don't really watch this show anymore, but I can be sure that I won't go back after this is over. The whole reason that soaps have lasted so many years is their dedication to history. Being able to tune in and see your old favs, is what keeps these shows going. To kill off all of the vets, will kill this show, IMO. Blech.
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-10-04, 11:02 PM (EST)
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89. "RE: I'm officially disgusted" |
I agree, for awhile I was rushing home everyday to watch but it is so long and drawn out and over the top now that I don't evenc are if I see it or not. Maybe I'll come back in another 10 years or so.
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-11-04, 11:20 AM (EST)
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91. "RE: I'm officially disgusted" |
I have been watching off and on since the early 80's, I quit when Marlena was possessed because that was just too much for me. I recently started watching again and damned if they aren't back to ruining Marlena again. It's the only daytime soap I have ever watched and am now sad that they have ruined it for me.
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-11-04, 04:23 PM (EST)
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93. "RE: I'm officially disgusted" |
Believe you me, I am beyond pissed. Killing Alice is just wrong. She is the heart and soul of the show. There will be no matriarch on the show. Every show needs a matriarch. I don't see Bonnie taking over that role.But its all about ratings and people are watching. But boy, Salem really does have the dumbest cops out there, don't they
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LadyT 5567 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-31-04, 06:15 PM (EST)
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99. "RE: SPOILER - Marlena" |
I hate that they have killed not only our beloved characters, but the show as well. I no longer watch it, I just read about it in SOD. But I knew that they would kill Alice with a doughnut.What's next? Marlena going crazy and taking a baseball bat to all the Christmas balls? That's the best Soap Christmas tradition
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-05-04, 00:08 AM (EST)
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105. "RE: Alert...Catty remark ahead..." |
Can Marlena give the writers one of Alice's donuts?
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05-19-04, 01:57 PM (EST)
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107. "EW.com SPOILER" |
I must say I'm glad to see a discussion on DOOL on this forum! Okay, I didn't want to start a whole new thread, so I am posting this here for anyone who wants to know. It's on EW.com, and it's accessible to anyone who has a subscription to EW or AOL at this address: http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,639381_3_0_,00.html They talk about ratings, etc etc, but the main point (spoilerish) that is included, is below: In more ways than one. On May 24, Reilly will reveal his latest insane twist: ''None of them are dead!'' That's right, all 10 of the victims are alive and kickin' it in their new home -- a copycat version of Salem that's been reconstructed on a remote Caribbean island. Reilly promises that by summer's end, befuddled viewers will learn how Marlena's murder victims survived their on-screen demises, along with the reason for her slashing spree. (All 10 actors who previously thought they had been dumped by the show have agreed to return.) Hmmm..interesting! I wonder if they'll kill them all off again after a couple of months....
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shuiheart 95 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-21-04, 12:07 PM (EST)
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109. "RE: EW.com SPOILER" |
I've read that many of the "dead" either have new contracts, are negotiating for new ones or are on recurring status (as they were before they died). Hopefully that means they will be around for a while.
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shuiheart 95 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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05-21-04, 02:02 PM (EST)
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111. "RE: EW.com SPOILER" |
There are rumors that some of the old favorites could be found on that island.
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Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-26-04, 04:39 PM (EST)
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112. "RE: EW.com SPOILER" |
So, back to the original question that started this thread. Awha, they're not really dead after all. Thank goodness. Will be interesting watching the explanation to this story. Cause I haven't a clue how they're going to 'splain this. So glad Alice isn't really dead! TummyBreez
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ashleybfogg 2367 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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05-28-04, 02:51 AM (EST)
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117. "Oh My Heck" |
so, nobody is really dead, and Marlena isn't a killer. and they're all on an island.I said it first, blame Stephano. could we have been more roped in?
what a hoochy trap. everybody's watching, mad at the producers for killing off the old timers. dang. this reminds me of Pam's dream on Dallas. write a bad idea? make it go away. I feel so... used.
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Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-02-04, 03:46 PM (EST)
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119. "RE: DOOL" |
I think it WOULD be funny, if it turned out that Sammi was playing the Sims game. Slice rocks!
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MandyM 2112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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06-03-04, 08:10 PM (EST)
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120. "This is a MUSTSEE for DOOL fans!!!!!!!!!" |
LAST EDITED ON 06-03-04 AT 08:13 PM (EST)Especially for longtime viewers of the show! I stumbled upon this site a couple of months ago and they change the video clips every couple of weeks. THIS time, they have segments of an episode that ran February 14, 1966!!!! It's in black and white and Tom and Alice look sooooooo wonderful and young! I had forgotten how handsome MacDonald Carey was! Marie Cheatam as their daughter Marie is in it and John Clarke (WOW....HE was handsome too and looks so very young) is Mickey and they have Julie (but it's not Susan Seaforth Hayes. It's some other chick and it's back when Julie was in HS). They discuss Julie and her brother Steven............shoot, I had practically forgotten about Steven...do you guys remember him? When I watched, he was played by Stephan Schnetzer (sp?) the guy who played Cass Winthrop on AW. And they discuss Addie - Julie's mom(who I remember) and Julie's dad Ben Olson(who I don't remember...remember the name, but never saw him on screen). Anyway, it's a real hoot to see the hairstyles, hear the lame "soapy" background music, and to see beloved characters from way back when! Here is the link: World of Soap Themes When you get there, just click on the Days of Our Lives picture on the right side. You won't be sorry! And while you're there, check out their other stuff too! Lots of good soap memories over there! And like I said, they update and provide new clips every couple of weeks! Woo Hoooo! Enjoy! *Edited to fix link MM Maybe this world is another planet’s hell
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motormouth 4507 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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06-20-04, 02:26 AM (EST)
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138. "RE: This is a MUSTSEE for DOOL fans!!!!!!!!!" |
Is it just me or does it seem like they start a storyline without having a clue as to how they will finish it? Or maybe they don't want to finish it with hopes we will all stay tuned forever. Wichever it is, I must say this is going to far, even for a soap. I usually tivo the show and watch it while fast forward-ing. This way I don't have to listen to the same conversations over and over but I still see *if* something happens.
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