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"Random thoughts on this week's shows"
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04-28-05, 11:20 AM (EST)
 
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I'm just going to throw out some thoughts i've had on this week...* I loved the theme this week and wish it would have ran earlier w/ more contestants so we could have had more fresh material
* Anthony doing Celine. That still boggles me.
* I would have liked to have a comment or two on how the judges thought Vonzell was after rewatching it. I still swear she was off key through most of the song
* People question Scott's fan...but what about Carrie's? She hasn't been "on" for several weeks, yet always in the top group?
* Bo needs to win this year, 'nuff said
* I was hoping for a Bo/Con final two showdown...oh well
* Constantine truly was the weakest this week. Scott _was_ better than him, guys.
* Bo is the true rocker, Constantine is better when he strays from Rock. Simon again is correct.
* This was the final 6. Anyone could go any week. Based on that week's performance, i have to say Constantine deserved it.
* Anthony has been improving steadily.
* I truly believe that if anyone other than Bo wins, the 'gleam' of being an American Idol will be tarnished even more. Ruben fizzled. Fantasia seems to have fizzled. Carrie will simply be another "Nashville Star". Anthony/Scott are no Clay. Vonzell...well, Ruben/Fantasia redux. Bo needs to win to inject a burst of life into the frachise. It should be interesting to see what the final themes are, and if they allow Bo to shine. Oh, and did i say - Bo needs to win this year? geekboy
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1. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
* Bo needs to win this year, 'nuff said
Agreed! * Bo is the true rocker, Constantine is better when he strays from Rock. Simon again is correct. But isn't Con's band a metal band, and pretty decent? I don't understand why everyone says he should stay away from rock. * I truly believe that if anyone other than Bo wins, the 'gleam' of being an American Idol will be tarnished even more. Ruben fizzled. Fantasia seems to have fizzled. Carrie will simply be another "Nashville Star". Anthony/Scott are no Clay. Vonzell...well, Ruben/Fantasia redux. Bo needs to win to inject a burst of life into the frachise. It should be interesting to see what the final themes are, and if they allow Bo to shine. Oh, and did i say - Bo needs to win this year? Yes, yes, yes!!!
 
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04-28-05, 12:47 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Hi Nailbone -His band is "Pray For The Soul Of Betty" and i don't believe its a metal band, but it is a hard rock band. I don't know how good of a band it is. You have to admit that his voice is incredibly better, smoother, purer when he sang "My Funny Valentine" and event "I Think I love You" compared to Tuesday night, or back earlier when he did "Hard To Handle". He has more control when he strays from rock. His voice is not as versatile as Bo's, who can easily handle both genres. geekboy
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04-28-05, 01:11 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
I agree that Bo should win. I don't agree that Scott was better than Constantine this week. This was Constantine's weakest performance, but Scott was still worse. To me, Constantine can cross genre's better than most. Bohemian Rhapsody ( rock ), My Funny Valentine ( show tunes ), I Think I Love You ( 70's ) those were great performances. I really like his voice. I don't think its that he can't do rock, he just choose a rock song that did not showcase his vocals. Scott was just plain horrible, but then I think Fantansia is horrible too. I've never heard her sing anything that I liked. I would buy a CD of Carrie's, Bo's or Constantine's and even Nadia's for that matter. I'd never, ever buy one of Scott's or Fantasia's.
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04-28-05, 01:29 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I do enjoy reading your posts and usually agree with most of them. If we all liked the same thing, it sure would be boring.
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7. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Some random replies. ;)** Anthony doing Celine. That still boggles me. Ditto. Although it wasn't the worst he has done, I still don't understand it. ** People question Scott's fan...but what about Carrie's? She hasn't been "on" for several weeks, yet always in the top group? I agree, but I at least understand Carrie's fanbase better than Scott's. She's a cornfed midwestern gal, sweet and innocent, and definitely pulls in all the "we want a nice country girl to win AI" voters who want to see someone like her or Josh Gracin in the top spot. I'll bet they have the exact same voting base. And she does sing very well. Country is Not my cup of tea at all -- I prefer her Heart and Pat Benatar songs over country, although she can't pull off the moves -- but I give the girl credit for having a great voice. Scott.......that fan base just scares me. Who ARE they??? I don't get the whole "I represent the working guy" thing --- are there that many young and old Scotts watching AI and voting like mad for him?? If he at least sang well, I'd get it. But that in combination with his personality, which is very gruff, unsophisticated, and a little frightening makes this very odd indeed. Are there really that many people voting for Scott out of spite over Simon's comments and/or the website mentioned in another post? ** Bo needs to win this year, 'nuff said
** I was hoping for a Bo/Con final two showdown...oh well Gosh, I was DYING for this. I would have been happier with either one winning, although I lean a bit towards Constantine because I think he's got better overall versatility. But I would have been happy with either one taking the prize -- a Reuben/Clay outcome where both were deserving. ** Constantine truly was the weakest this week. Scott _was_ better than him, guys. I have to disagree here. I definitely agree that Constantine was not very good, but then again, I thought everybody was horrible on Tuesday night except for Vonzell. So then it comes down to performance. Connie outshined Scott in that talent, and will ALWAYS outshine Scott when it comes down to performance because Scott has NO stage presence. Either way, Constantine just does not deserve to be gone before Scott and Anthony. No way in hEll.
** Bo is the true rocker, Constantine is better when he strays from Rock. Simon again is correct.
Bo is the true rocker only in that he's very good doing rock, but not much else. Constantine is more versatile, but I don't think that means he's "bad" at rock. His Bohemian Rhapsody night was awesome -- and Queen is as rock as you can get. Connie just picked a totally sucky song for himself Tuesday night.
** This was the final 6. Anyone could go any week. Based on that week's performance, i have to say Constantine deserved it.
I agree anyone can go any week once we get down to final 6, but after three years of this, I am getting tired of the voting mishaps that occur around this time every year. I don't think it's "fair" that someone gets eliminated after one bad week who was never even in the bottom three already. I stand by my assertion in another thread that the voting needs to change to accumulation of votes for each contestant each week, and the lowest still goes. That way, a person can have a bad week, and still make it through. But if you continually have bad weeks, you're going to get eliminated.
** I truly believe that if anyone other than Bo wins, the 'gleam' of being an American Idol will be tarnished even more. Ruben fizzled. Fantasia seems to have fizzled. Carrie will simply be another "Nashville Star". Anthony/Scott are no Clay. Vonzell...well, Ruben/Fantasia redux. Bo needs to win to inject a burst of life into the frachise.
Amen!! I wanted a rocker showdown............I'm not going to get it, but now Bo will get every vote of mine and I'm going to double my efforts on call week! Go Bo!
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04-28-05, 03:22 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Geekboy, I have to agree with TanNymph on this one that Scott was not better then Constantine this week. Lets just say he was does that mean Constantine's first trip to the Bottom 3 means going home, while week after week this obvoxious loser is still standing up there. Despite what he does in his personal life, it does not mean he has to stand up there with a chip on his shoulder, he is lucky to be where he is. I still find it hard to believe that the rabid amount of fans that were voting for Constantine all of a sudden decided not to, come on, its not all about the singing... Hopefully all of Scott's fans will somehow think he is safe now and stop voting for him. Also, I said before, Carrie had a bad performance, did not seem like her fans stopped voting, why would Constantine's stop. Remember this is the same guy who according to Ryan had gotten 35 million votes prior to this show. Something seems weird...
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04-29-05, 12:58 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
<<Bo needs to win this year, 'nuff saidyep yep yep absolutely agree with you there!
i dont like carrie that much i dont know why shes still there... i think nadia was more original and had more star quality than her.
o well
i think simon said something about vonzell being flat in the beginning. i dont think randy and paula were amazed by her performance either.
i saw this online poll thing and 78% says they want scott out next... i think hell go next i mean especially since now people are really mad that he beat constantine.
but like randy said anything can happen at this stage.
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04-29-05, 01:54 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
>>* Constantine truly was the weakest this week. Scott _was_ better than him, guys.<<I'm ABSOLUTELY going to back you up on this, Geekboy. Con was appalling. Yes, Scott has horrible stage presence -- he just stands there scowling at everyone. And every time Paula talked about the emotion he was putting into his performance, I...didn't see it. Plus, I despise New-School R&B as much, if not more, than I despise Country-Pop -- so Scott and his runs are definitely NOT to my taste. I don't care how much he weighs. I don't care that he had an argument with his girlfriend 97 years ago. However, there's no denying the guy can sing. THERE'S NO DENYING THE GUY CAN SING. He may have missed a couple of notes this week, but Constantine pretty much blew pitch through his whole number -- especially on the chorus/hook. It was almost unrecognizable. (I think Carrie & Vonzell also had bigger pitch problems than Scott this week.) Plus, the judges hit the nail on the head re: Con being a phony with the rock stuff. And what was with 'kicking' the camera? More than once? Lame. Yes, Con is a better performer than Scott, but not a better singer...and this week, his performance was terrible. **Scott haters, worry not -- he won't win. But be honest, he CAN sing** One additional thought -- about VERSATILITY. Some folks point out Constantine's versatility as a reason why he should have won. I disagree. I understand why they ask the contestants to sing different genres--stepping out of your comfort zone shows what you're made of. BUT -- do we really expect our recording artists to be proficient in multiple genres? I suspect Constantine is more versatile because of his musical theater background...but that ease in switching gears also made it difficult to determine who the REAL Constantine is...that was Randy & Simon's problem with him, and I think alot of voters' problem too. Regardless of your flexibility, a solo recording artist needs to feel real, and needs to have a clear identity. So I tend to not worry if a contestant doesn't set the world on fire for Chinese-Opera-Night -- as long as they attack each genre with everything they've got, and we can still tell who they are.
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04-29-05, 02:08 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
))) HUGS (((Thanks for being perhaps the ONE person out there that agrees with me. You pretty much backed me up perfectly. Scott DOES have an amazing voice, and dare i say if judged on voice alone, he whip's Constantine's butt? But i don't wish to debate Scott's voice, its a no-brainer that he can sing. I tend to disagree with you on the judges thinking he was phony with the rock stuff. I think what the judges were trying to say is "Hey, Maroulis. The past so many weeks, you have discovered your niche in pop/crooning. People love you when you do that, why the heck did you cross back to your rock side? You're alienating your massively-huge new fan base, dawg?!" And i think that sums up why he was voted out. The Constantine that showed up on Tuesday was NOT the Constantine that America has grown to love who sang the Patridge Family. This was Karaoke-Bar stage Constantine. It was his mistake and his downfall, unfortunately. geekboy
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04-29-05, 02:57 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
*taps foot**clears throat* Forgetting about someone????  And I still say that if all of these people (top 12) had the proper training, Scott would be one of the best (if not THE best) in terms of vocal ability. That's not saying he's a great performer, because he isn't...and I don't think he is likely to ever be. But his voice is fantastic. I don't give a crap about his life story and I certainly don't vote for people out of sympathy. Hell, if I did that I'd have voted for Jim Verraros in season one and he sucked royally. I just like Scott's voice. And I know a good voice when I hear (not see) one, thankyouverymuch  Constantine went home because he SUCKED two week sin a row...(Carrie did too, but I don't think her fans care because she an do no wrong even when she sings an entire song out of tune - as she did this week), plain and simple. And frankly, none of these people is worthy of the title "American Idol", IMO. The group as a whole may be more talented than past seasons, but there is no star, if you ask me. They are all hovering around "eh, not bad".  
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04-29-05, 03:07 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Sorry, Phoenix...))) HUGS ((( And also, there is one true star this year. And his name is Bo. He has it all, if you ask me. I can see his CD blowing away Kelley, Clay and anyone else out of the AI machine that is semi-successful. He's a breath of fresh air in a show that is starting to stale. Don't get me wrong, i still love the show, but it needs a winner like Bo who is outside the fringes of "pop/R&B". geekboy
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04-29-05, 04:28 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Totally agree with you geekboy and having heard that Red Cross CD, his voice sounds awesome on it. Actually the better voice on the CD. As much as I did like Constantine his voice sounds weak on the CD. I still however, think Scott should have been gone before Constantine well before Anwar, before Nadia, before Jessica, I could go on and on and on.
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23. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
I'm worried about the recent cocaine controversy surrounding Bo though. While it probably won't affect the affections of most of the Bice Squad; (a) Some parents might be unhappy to have their kids voting for someone who has been known to abuse drugs, Bo's lack of an actual criminal conviction notwithstanding (b) When it comes down to the final two, you just know that there will be people voting against Bo simply for having a drug record; just as there were certainly people voting against Fantasia last year for being a single mother. Sad as it is, there are still AI viewers who feel anyone who's ever done anything questionable is unworthy of being an American Idol winner, and this can shown by the sheer outrage of some AI fans at last year's result: they were mad not because they wanted Diana to win, but because they wanted Fantasia to lose. If Bo's finale opponent is sweet, safe, non-drug-consuming Carrie Underwood, he could find himself losing by like half a percent: because of Carrie's fans voting like crazy for her to win, and because some not-to-be-messed-with self-righteous faction will also be frantically voting to ensure the crowning of a clean, wholesome, scandal-free "American Idol" this year.
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26. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
<most of the Bice SquadClever, sodiumswirl.  As for a clean, wholesome, scandal-free AI, good luck. Contestants like that are few and far between. I would like to see a line drawn on assault, robbery, drug dealing, and murder convictions though. A little drug use or out of wedlock mother or fatherhood? Not so much. As you say, Carrie might win based on that perceived squeaky clean persona. The President certainly was, so AI isn't free of that phenomenon. But surely an entertainment show's voting could be based on merit. Pretty please? Sigh. 
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24. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Sorry Geekboy but I never have liked Bo. I really wanted to see it come down to Carrie & Constatine. Oh well. I'm still boggled how Scoddy The Body is still in it. There must be a heck of a lot of voters in Cleveland. Myself being one of them.....but not for Scott.
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27. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
I have to beg to differ here. I am a HUGE Bo fan and vote every week for him, but also enjoy Scott's voice and vote for him as well. He didn't have the worst voice, Constantine did - now Constantine is gone and we can all move along (and vote for Bo
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05-03-05, 02:16 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
I'm not making any statement as to the quality of Scott's voice. Only that some are not voting based on that at all.
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05-04-05, 02:42 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
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05-04-05, 02:45 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Good Riddance.
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05-03-05, 03:18 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
the label "rock" doesn't matter or apply here. He simply sounds better when he uses his smooth Freddie Mercury/ Showtune voice and not his gruff "rock" voice. Whatever genre it is, he should've used the astonishingly good vocals he has.
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05-03-05, 10:38 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Bo is good but I think Carrie is a better singer. The last two weeks I admit have not been her best, but she was still good. I also don't get the whole no stage presence thing. I think she is extremely enjoyable to watch. Not that my opinion matters much but I think she is going to win this.....
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34. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
She's enjoyable to watch because she's gorgeous. But she doesn't move around much when she sings (Pat Benatar songs excepted. )
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05-03-05, 11:58 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
I agree that she needs to grow on her stage presence. But if you look at any performer when they first start out they all grow with more experience. Don't get me wrong I like Bo. Have since the beginning. But he isn't really an amateur and has been playing clubs and touring with his band for years. Carries is an amateur with a heck of alot of talent. Think she has a very bright future country or not.
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05-03-05, 12:23 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Experience is irrelevant in this competition. The competition is for the best singer in america, in the designated age range. They do not exclude anyone for having experience in a band, on Broadway, or whatever.The fact that Carrie is an amateur should mean nothing in the competition. Common sense tells me that Carrie has a good chance to win. My gut tells me that America is looking for someone fresh unlike the other idols, and that would be Bo. We'll all see soon enough. geekboy
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37. "No one asked for a resume...just talent" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-03-05 AT 12:35 PM (EST)OK, buuuuttt, (Welcome Dot!!) This isn't an amateur competition. It's a talent contest. Singing/performing -- talent. Who said they have to be amateurs? Why take points off Bo (or anyone) because they're experienced? And Carrie's not 16, she's 22 -- So is she REALLY inexperienced? If so, WHY isn't she experienced? If this is the career she wants to pursue, she should have already been chasing it.
I believe that she IS experienced -- she's just dull -- a disembodied voice if you will. She's been on stage before...a school concert or a karaoke contest or even singing in her bedroom mirror. It's not that long a learning curve -- stage presence or excitement or connection, whatever you want to call that "X Factor" that makes someone a compelling performer -- it's born, not learned. Yes, it will grow/develop/strengthen with experience & age, but if you're that dull at 22, you're just that dull. Yeah, there's such a thing as a late bloomer, but we're not voting on how good someone may be in 5 years...we're voting on how good someone is right now. You can learn skills, you can't learn talent. Carrie has a good voice - a good "instrument."
She also has vocal skill - she's been taught to use that instrument well.
However, she doesn't really have that X Factor - that "Za!" - that Fire!...that talent.
I think that element is even more important than the voice and the skill. (eta - oops, didn't mean to dup Geekboy's thoughts - I take too long to write!)
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39. "RE: No one asked for a resume...just talent" |
Thanks for the welcome. It's the first time I've ever logged onto one of these messsage boards. Everyone has thier opinions and I know I'm not going to sway anyone with mine. I think she does have it and alot of people apparently agree with the votes she keeps getting.... I agree Bo is something different for American Idol and very likeable and if he wins great for him. I'll still be rooting for Carrie. One last thing please don't let the next American Idol be Scott!
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45. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
Yes, she did do a better job last night.
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40. "RE: Random thoughts on this week's shows" |
This season isn't as fun to watch because you already know Carrie's gonna win. She's never been in the bottom three despite having subpar performances. I don't understand how she's skating through so easy. She can sing, but it's not like she's leaps and bounds above Bo and Vonzell, both of whom have tasted the bottom three.
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