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"TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Ok, very nice that they came to Canada again. But once again, why, TAR, why? Lumberjacks? REALLY???

So, without futher bitching, a few misconceptions:

1. Log rolling - NOT a Canadian past time. Granted, I'm sure there are lumberjacks out there, but never in my 30 years as a Canadian have I heard of anyone doing it.

2. Curling - Another NOT - this one's a bit different though. People who curl, LOVE to curl. Curling is something that people do acutally do here. But not everyone does it. I did love the Lindz boyz huge curling enthusiasm though, that was great.

3. Air Canada - Air Canada would NEVER take someone into a nice cushy office to help them get a better flight if they didn't have a television camera with them. They are too busy going broke and paying Celine Dion millions of dollars to make music videos with Air Canada planes in the background.


I know there are more. Anyone want to join me?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-14-05 1
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Seana 12-14-05 3
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-14-05 17
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions bullzeye 12-14-05 2
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions quiller 12-16-05 40
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-16-05 41
           RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions quiller 12-17-05 48
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions dms666 12-14-05 4
   I Love O Canada!! tamarama 12-14-05 6
       RE: I Love O Canada!! J Slice 12-14-05 24
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-14-05 12
 I only caught hour #2.... Meemo 12-14-05 5
   La Tour CN Canada Girl 12-14-05 8
       RE: La Tour CN Seana 12-14-05 10
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions ginger 12-14-05 7
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Coconut 12-14-05 9
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Canada Girl 12-14-05 15
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions cracer 12-14-05 18
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Coconut 12-14-05 22
           RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-14-05 26
               RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions bostonrobfan 12-14-05 28
                   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions bystander 12-15-05 34
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Tahj 12-14-05 11
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-14-05 13
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Tahj 12-15-05 36
           RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-15-05 37
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions mrc 12-14-05 14
   You laugh Coconut 12-14-05 23
       RE: You laugh Seana 12-14-05 25
           RE: You laugh mrc 12-15-05 32
       RE: You laugh bostonrobfan 12-14-05 29
           RE: You laugh mrc 12-15-05 31
 Perfect place for the Food Roadbloc... Cygnus X1 12-14-05 16
 Flights question? HobbsofMI 12-14-05 19
 RE: The KukulGod Reappears! foonermints 12-14-05 20
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions strid333 12-14-05 21
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions byoffer 12-14-05 27
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions bullzeye 12-15-05 30
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Bebo 12-15-05 33
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions bystander 12-15-05 35
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-15-05 38
           RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Lisa0116 12-19-05 50
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions bostonrobfan 12-15-05 39
 RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions mikey 12-16-05 42
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Tahj 12-16-05 43
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Cygnus X1 12-16-05 46
           RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions Tahj 12-16-05 47
   RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions memacmur 12-16-05 44
       RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions 1derfool 12-16-05 45
           RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions peacenlove2u 12-18-05 49

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1. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
You mean they DON'T speak Spanish in Montreal? Or Toronto, for that matter?


Actually, I thought most everyone in Montreal spoke only French.

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3. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Oh ugh. That "el fasto" thing was old in Central America. Saying it to a (probably) bilingual driver in Montreal just embarrassed me.

Folks in Montreal are pretty bilingual. The signs will be in French or in French and English, but that's the law (Loi 101).

Hey, at least they didn't play lacrosse.


The challenge in Toronto should have been to find parking for under $10/hour.

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17. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Lcarosse? That'll be their challenge when they come to Baltimore.


Right, Slicey and HD?

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2. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Thank you CG - I just about fell off my chair last night when they introduced "Log Rolling" as a task. While I have never personally curled before, I know plenty of people who have. I do not know a signle person who has ever gone log rolling.

And the Air Canada comments - so true.

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40. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
This also drove me nuts. And I live in an area where logging is one of the major sources of income. I have never even SEEN a log rolled. However, many people in my family have curled, and I do LOVE curling.

Why can't they ever show REAL Canada???


cause this is what I do when I am NOT watching SO or posting on this board.

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41. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Why can't they ever show REAL Canada???

Um, because it would disabuse us Americans of all our preconceived notions?


Although in this thread, I proposed that TAR run a leg through the Maritimes.

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48. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
LAST EDITED ON 12-17-05 AT 00:57 AM (EST)

good point, this way we can all just think that we are so superior! LOL I think it seems strange to us because we see so much US TV and do know more, overall, about the US than you guys know about Canada.

Just one other little note, did that log rolling thing make anyone else (of the Canadians on the board) think of "The Log Driver's Waltz" remember the NFB short that they used to show on CBC all the time? I had flashbacks to when I lived in a small town and only had CBC and CTV for TV channels.


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4. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Should've made them drink a litre of maple syrop!

Or how about something really challenging for Americans...singing "O'Canada"!

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6. "I Love O Canada!!"
A very pretty national anthem!

I feel your pain Canadians -- I think it's a result of not being LA or New York. When you're not LA or NY, you only get 3-4 stereotypes adjectives to describe you. (lumber, ice, etc.)


(We in Wisconsin and Milwaukee get beer, cheese, and Laverne & Shirley. Color me thrilled.)

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24. "RE: I Love O Canada!!"
I don't know...

anything north of the Bronx is "upstate".

There are no cows in my county, dammit!

Pfeh. Upstate indeed.


Warm wishes from Skadi

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12. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
I can sing that!

"O Canada
Our home and native land
Something, something else
Through all the someone's hand!"


I once won a bottle of Canadian maple syrup. So.Good.

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5. "I only caught hour #2...."
... but since when does anyone in English-speaking Canada refer to "La Tour CN"?

And, for anyone wishing to take a ride on the Niagara Jet-Boat tour, they actually depart from Niagara-on-the-Lake, not the village of Queenston.

The racers apparently drove right by my house on their way from Toronto to Queenston. And? At pretty much any day of the week and time, that drive can be nightmarish for traffic.


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8. "La Tour CN"
I thought that part was pretty funny actually. I think they gave it to them in french on purpose to screw them up in Toronto.

A few years ago I stayed in one of the condos in the background in the 'climb the rigging' scene on the Toronto harbour. Million dollors a unit. They were snazzy.

Made me really happy to see at least a bit of my old home town. Wish they'd gone to Ontario Place and gone on the water slides.

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10. "RE: La Tour CN"
Oh yeah, "la Tour CN" had me and my TAR-watching partner in stitches.

I kept looking out the windows of their vehicles to see if I recognised the landscape. But they just kept showing the sign for Queenston/Lewiston.



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7. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
LAST EDITED ON 12-14-05 AT 01:40 PM (EST)

I hear you. If they raced to San Francisco, we'd probably see a lot of surfing-themed challenges, regardless of the fact that only the really suicidally macho even stick their baby toes in the ocean here.

Curling looks like it would be fun to do drunk.



Suspect this may be the appeal for the Lintz boys.

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9. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
I was laughing my butt off when they made them wear helmets on the ice. That was too terrible.

Air Canada would have laughed in their faces if there hadn't been cameras. Plus, did you catch Mama Weaver saying 'Canada? And I'm wearing cutoffs?'


I just thought you might want to know that, being a science geek and all.
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15. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
My DH was losing it over the helmets too. He pointed out that their cab driver Ted looked completely shocked at the helmets on the Weavers.

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18. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
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>I was laughing my butt off
>when they made them wear
>helmets on the ice. That
>was too terrible.


As a Canadian, I laughed big time at the helmets while curling, too. No self-respecting curler would ever be caught dead wearing a helmet. We went curling in high school and even though we were minors, they certainly didn't make us wear helmets! Most (non-competitive) curling is done while drunk and people still don't need helmets!

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22. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Exaaaactly. Those helmets would have gotten them laughed out of any self-respecting curling rink in Canada. Even the dinky little Goodlow curling rink (upon which I curled, once a year, badly, from the age of nine) would have tossed their behinds out the door.

(Side remark: The Goodlow curling rink had the Best.Hamburgers.Ever. To this day, frying onions in burger grease makes me think of that place.)

I thought it was a rule that all curling done by adults had to involve beer.


I just thought you might want to know that, being a science geek and all.
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26. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
So curling is an excuse to get drunk?


And drunk is an excuse for your curling?

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28. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Kinda like bowling in the U.S.

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34. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
I've seen some bowlers that should be wearing helmets.


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11. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Hey! Those lumberjacks were HOT! And that's all I care about


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13. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
And when have you ever cared about anything else, hm?


No, I don't have a point. Why do you ask?

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36. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Oh, now that's not quite fair, hm? I care about lots of things that have nothing to do with lumberjacks.


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37. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
LAST EDITED ON 12-15-05 AT 03:40 PM (EST)

You know I keed.

Need a flannel shirt?

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14. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Right on, CG! Any jaunt through Canada without poutine being consumed is completely inaccurate.

*knock on door*

Oh. Hi, Seana. How are you? Why do you, Coco, and Bob have clubs and flaming torches?

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23. "You laugh"
but actually I was wondering why in heaven's name they didn't have the food challenge there. I would have liked to see what they would have made of poutine.

Mmm.. now I want poutine.


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25. "RE: You laugh"
Coco already had my citizenship revoked for my blasphemous views on "our" food. Fries with gravy and cheese curd. Ew ew ew.

I also don't like beer. Though peameal bacon is yummy. Mmm...I'm going to get some for Christmas morning.


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32. "RE: You laugh"
You? are a wise Canadioun. Beer is horrible. I would like to try your national sport of curling, though.

You want me to show the Speedo pic, don'tcha? Can't do it today--it's too freakin' cold! Shrinkage and all that. My hair, I mean.

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29. "RE: You laugh"
I bet the Linzes would LOVE poutine!

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31. "RE: You laugh"
Pooting, yes. Poutine, maybe.

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16. "Perfect place for the Food Roadblock, eh?"
Why didn't they have the Disgusting Food Roadblock in Canada?

They could have made the Racers wear five golden toques, eat four pounds of back bacon and three French toasts, put on two turtlenecks, and get a beer out of a tree!


Okay, maybe not Rolly for that last part.

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19. "Flights question?"
LAST EDITED ON 12-14-05 AT 04:37 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 12-14-05 AT 04:34 PM (EST)

Ok...how does a Northwest direct flight, which seemed to take off at the same time as the Air Canada flight (might just ans. my question here - editing), not beat two flights with a layover?

Any one know what NW flight # the Bransens flew?

Edit: found it (not after second look)...3404 but that MESABA AVIATION JET so that's not it....Edit2: that would be a on a British Aerospace RJ7 Jet so much slower then any Airbus or Boeing Jet.


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20. "RE: The KukulGod Reappears!"
Is the horror really over? Good! Now for the real TAR, but I digress..

I thought all Canadians were curling, log rolling lumberjacks. They even have an airline? Air Canada?
::boggle::

I don't go North very much, but I get Eskimo Pies sometimes.

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21. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
I thought that when they said 2 popular (or semi-popular) Canadian sports it would be hockey, curling, LaCross, three down football or basketball - not log rolling.

If they came to Saskatchewan, curling is a guarantee. I was disappointed that Jan Betker couldn't get to the Olympics again. My hometown has curling and hockey and both are equally popular.


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27. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Well, for my part I thought they depicted Canada quite fairly. Then again...
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.

MOUNTIES:
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.

MOUNTIES:
He cuts down trees. He eats his lunch.
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea.

He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.

MOUNTIES:
He cuts down trees. He skips and jumps.
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around in bars?!

He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Papa.

MOUNTIES:
He cuts down trees. He wears high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra?!

{talking}
What's this? Wants to be a girlie?! Oh, My!
And I thought you were so rugged! Poofter!...

{singing}
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

He's a lumberjack, and he's okaaaaay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.


Sig by me. Wish the rider was me!

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30. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Curious - is the girl in the photo Connie Booth? Booth collaberated and starred in Fawlty Towers with Cleese. I think they may have been married as well.
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33. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Yes, that's Connie Booth, and yes, she was married to John Cleese.

And I'm glad Cygnus already made reference to one of my favorite Christmas carols earlier. I thought it would have been quite appropriate for Bob and Doug McKensie to be at the finish mat. Or maybe it would be more appropriate for them to be at the start of one of the tasks, telling them to "take off, eh".

Let's see, what other ridiculous stereotypes can I perpetuate now?

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35. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
You're such a Hoser!


Seasonally appropriate greetings by Bob!

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38. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Aw, get out!

Let's play The Beer Hunter, hoser!


BTW: NEVER tell your mother to "get out." I learned the hard way.

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50. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
LAST EDITED ON 12-19-05 AT 04:25 PM (EST)

I love the MacKenzie brothers (and Python), but their Canadian task should have been something duct tape related-in honor of Red Green!!!

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39. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
I am proud to say that The Lumberjack Song is my cellphone ringtone.
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42. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
I was confused on the final puzzle challenge. Why was Canada broken up into several pieces? Isn't it just the 51st state?

And shouldn't they have had a Dudley Do-Right challenge? Tying a female member of the team to a railroad track and trying to save her before the train comes?

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43. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
LMAO! Wait, Canada is it's own country? When did it secede?

And shouldn't they have had a Dudley Do-Right challenge?

Let's hear it for the Mounties!!! (Guess your right, Cygnus, I really don't care about anything else!


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46. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Never said it was a BAD thing, Tahj! I just enjoy pointing it out when you point it out!


And no, that's not code for anything. Why do you ask?

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47. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
LAST EDITED ON 12-16-05 AT 01:01 PM (EST)

Point taken.


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Code? Could be. (How you doin'?)

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44. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Ahh yes. My dear, sweet wife saw the log-rolling listed as a popular Canadian past-time, and just about threw something at the TV.

Now granted, the sports networks up here like to air lumberjack challenges, but I don't know of any local log-rolling places to go hang out at! Hockey? Beer? Skiing (alright, weather was wrong for that)? Making fun of Weavers certain Americans? Lacrosse? Watching American produced TV? All much more Canadian to me then rolling logs.

Mind you, the other day on the way to work, 3 moose and 2 polar bears did drag all those trees onto the road whilst fighting each other over some Tim Hortons timbits that someone had dropped. I had to put on my touque and get out my log-rollers so that I could get my dogsled through. Luckily some hockey players and Inuit were hunting baby seals nearby, so they were able to help me! Aha! They should have had them go club baby seals! That would make an awesome PETA-be-darned challenge.

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45. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
Don't forget our national emblem - the Maple. It's a well known fact that every Canadian has at least one maple tree in the yard to make our own maple syrup. That would have been a great detour to do in Quebec -- make 1 gallon of maple syrup, then chop the tree and roll the logs for added fun. Maybe they can time an episode for that someday.

I was rather disappointed they didn't have to walk on the glass floor while they were at the CN Tower. Since they had to change elevators to get from the observation pod to ground level, they were only steps away from the glass. Requiring them to walk over it before getting on the next elevator would have been fun to watch. The Evil Weavils would have had no problem - just unfold their angelic wings to keep from falling 110 floors to the street below.

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49. "RE: TAR Canadian Misconceptions"
OK - did they not take a little flight from Montreal to a "surprise destination"?? Hmmmm .... let's see - what's a short flight from Montreal and has the CN Tower in the skyline? Did every team not say "I wonder where we are?" AFTER the plane landed? ... and was the father not the only one that said "I think Toronto" (or "Toranto"). Come on my American friends - if you were in England and took a short flight to a surprise destination with the Eiffel Tower would you be saying "I wonder where we are."? (I might be off - I was too busy thanking God it was warn weather and they didn't bring them to Toronto in the snow and have them build and igloo or something).
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