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"S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Let's keep posts about tonight's episode on this thread only until 11:00 PM eastern. Thanks
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 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... volsfan 09-27-05 1
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 2
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 3
           RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... volsfan 09-27-05 4
           RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... chick 09-29-05 142
               RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... dragonflies 09-29-05 144
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... FFantasyFX 09-27-05 5
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 6
 BWAHAHAHA! volsfan 09-27-05 7
   RE: BWAHAHAHA! FFantasyFX 09-27-05 9
       RE: BWAHAHAHA! volsfan 09-27-05 15
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 8
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... MsShel330 09-27-05 10
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 11
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... kathliam 09-27-05 14
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... FFantasyFX 09-27-05 24
   A couple of these teams moonbaby 09-27-05 60
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 12
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... kathliam 09-27-05 13
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 16
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... MsShel330 09-27-05 17
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 21
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 26
           RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... twinsmomm 09-28-05 140
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... TeamJoisey 09-27-05 22
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Estee 09-27-05 25
       Hooray! moonbaby 09-27-05 55
           RE: Hooray! dragonflies 09-27-05 109
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Estee 09-27-05 23
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... zipperhead 09-27-05 125
 Next Stop: Find a hot dog FFantasyFX 09-27-05 18
   RE: Next Stop: Find a hot dog mandysmom 09-28-05 138
       RE: Next Stop: Find a hot dog FFantasyFX 09-28-05 139
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 19
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... volsfan 09-27-05 20
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... ARnutz 09-27-05 27
       Bite your tounge! alwaysintruble1 09-27-05 29
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 28
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... kathliam 09-27-05 30
 Next Stop: George Washington Crossi... FFantasyFX 09-27-05 31
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 32
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 36
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... zipperhead 09-27-05 128
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 33
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mommy2bree 09-28-05 133
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... volsfan 09-27-05 34
 What I find most shocking so far . ... FFantasyFX 09-27-05 35
   RE: What I find most shocking so fa... ARnutz 09-27-05 38
   RE: What I find most shocking so fa... Snidget 09-27-05 40
   RE: What I find most shocking so fa... Estee 09-27-05 45
 Pennsylvania??? ARnutz 09-27-05 37
   RE: Pennsylvania??? Snidget 09-27-05 39
 Know what I love??? ARnutz 09-27-05 41
   RE: Know what I love??? DayDayne 09-27-05 46
       RE: Know what I love??? ARnutz 09-27-05 48
           RE: Know what I love??? davwav02 09-27-05 49
               RE: Know what I love??? ARnutz 09-27-05 51
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 42
 Delaware River Update FFantasyFX 09-27-05 43
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 44
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 47
 My Neck of the Woods CattyChat 09-27-05 50
   RE: My Neck of the Woods DayDayne 09-27-05 57
 Quick Question davwav02 09-27-05 52
   RE: Quick Question ARnutz 09-27-05 54
       RE: Quick Question davwav02 09-27-05 58
 Updated Standings: FFantasyFX 09-27-05 53
   RE: Updated Standings: alwaysintruble1 09-27-05 59
       Bwahahahaha kathliam 09-27-05 61
       Apropos FFantasyFX 09-27-05 63
       RE: Updated Standings: universityofkentuckyrocks 09-27-05 94
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 56
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 62
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 64
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 65
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Earl Colby Pottinger 09-27-05 66
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... ARnutz 09-27-05 72
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... volsfan 09-27-05 67
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... CattyChat 09-27-05 73
 Elimination casting. Estee 09-27-05 68
   RE: Elimination casting. ARnutz 09-27-05 76
       Potential Big Mistake? FFantasyFX 09-27-05 81
           RE: Potential Big Mistake? ARnutz 09-27-05 84
 Oh My Gosh kathliam 09-27-05 69
   RE: Oh My Gosh davwav02 09-27-05 74
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 70
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 71
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 78
 At the Park: FFantasyFX 09-27-05 75
   RE: At the Park: applejack93 09-27-05 77
       RE: At the Park: FFantasyFX 09-27-05 85
           RE: At the Park: applejack93 09-27-05 90
               No Problem . . . FFantasyFX 09-27-05 96
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... MsShel330 09-27-05 79
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... DayDayne 09-27-05 83
 Ugh! ARnutz 09-27-05 80
   RE: Ugh! Cygnus X1 09-28-05 141
 Attention all Reality TV Show Conte... davwav02 09-27-05 82
   RE: Attention all Reality TV Show C... mysticwolf 09-27-05 92
   RE: Attention all Reality TV Show C... Snidget 09-27-05 93
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 86
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... alwaysintruble1 09-27-05 88
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... FFantasyFX 09-27-05 91
 Ouch CattyChat 09-27-05 87
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 89
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 95
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 97
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 98
 Chortle . . . FFantasyFX 09-27-05 99
   RE: Chortle . . . ARnutz 09-27-05 100
   hmm, The Black Family has two cute ... RBA 09-27-05 102
       RE: hmm, The Black Family has two c... mysticwolf 09-27-05 108
           RE: hmm, The Black Family has two c... RBA 09-27-05 111
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 101
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 103
 Pit Stop: Rohrer Family Farm! FFantasyFX 09-27-05 104
 Pit Stop coming!!! ARnutz 09-27-05 105
   RE: Pit Stop coming!!! batts 09-27-05 114
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 106
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 110
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... alwaysintruble1 09-27-05 112
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 107
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 116
 Rankings FFantasyFX 09-27-05 113
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 115
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... davwav02 09-27-05 117
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... MsShel330 09-27-05 118
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... FFantasyFX 09-27-05 120
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... batts 09-27-05 123
           RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... dragonflies 09-28-05 130
           RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... oasisfan 09-28-05 131
           RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... flipxcyd 09-28-05 136
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... MsShel330 09-27-05 119
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... DayDayne 09-27-05 122
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Snidget 09-27-05 124
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... zipperhead 09-27-05 129
 RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... mysticwolf 09-27-05 121
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... pieeater 09-27-05 126
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... television 09-28-05 135
   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Shine 09-27-05 127
       RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... oasisfan 09-28-05 132
           RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... dabo 09-28-05 134
               RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... flipxcyd 09-28-05 137
                   RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread... Earl Colby Pottinger 09-29-05 143

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09-27-05, 08:49 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Family intros are showing more in depth than normal teams but I am glad because there are more peeps to get used to.
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2. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The widow with kids, Dad killed on speedway by race car while removing debris...eek.
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3. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I wonder when or if we will get an update on the family from New Orleans.
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4. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Well, it wasn't mentioned during their intro. It may be at the end of the show tonight.
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142. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
>I wonder when or if we
>will get an update on
>the family from New Orleans.
>


They were on one of the morning shows here in NJ Tuesday morning. They were staying with the other LA family, and then they rented a home somewhere in LA. The show filmed the step-mom and dad returning to see the damage, which was prety extensive; flooding 1/2 way up the wall, etc. They seemed in pretty good spirits.

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09-29-05, 11:19 AM (EST)
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144. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Here is an article I found.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/27/earlyshow/series/amazingrace/main886435.shtml


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5. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
These extended intros are really cool. The only problem I have right now is that most of these people are so darn likable that I'm going to have trouble rooting against any of them. I've only seen two people I want to slap so far, although I'm sure that number will increase as the series progresses.
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6. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Have to say my first reaction is to root for one of the families racing with a little kid as opposed to all adults. That could change, too, I suppose.
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7. "BWAHAHAHA!"
SOHO is a nice place...I think.

Said by one of the little ones.

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9. "RE: BWAHAHAHA!"
I chuckled too when he said that. I'm mildly amused watching these teams try to navigate New York, probably the most challenging task this episode.
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15. "RE: BWAHAHAHA!"
I also LOLed with the southern lady saying she didn't know if she had an ear left after doing an ear plant into the ground after running across the lawn.
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8. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Off to Soho.
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10. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Some of the little kids scare me. They're so competitive. Spying on the other teams. yikes, lol.
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11. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Three backseat drivers in each car...my ears are aleady bleeding and head aching.
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14. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I can't imagine trying to drive in NYC being unfamiliar with the roads!

Ahhh, three times the backseat drivers. Bwahahaha!

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24. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I hate driving. I'm getting an aneurysm just watching these teams drive around these crowded, confusing streets. And three people in the backseat yelling out directions? Sorry, someone else would have to be in the front seat for this.
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60. "A couple of these teams"
are way too screechy!
*passes the motrin*

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12. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Someone's driving on the wrong side of the road. In NYC. And calling out apologies...
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13. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
OK, I think this will be more fun than I thought. More inter-personal dynamics.
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16. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
NYC. "Isn't it pretty? *head toss*" - in SOHO. Hmmmm...
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17. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
After EMS they have to drive 90 blocks to find a hot dog stand run by the FESTERS?! for their next clue.
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21. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Oh, I'm sure that will be relatively easy. I mean... how many hot dog stands can there be?
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26. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
In New York, man can't be more than 3 or 4 total
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140. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Never ever met a hot dog vender with such a crisp clean apron on before. Usually lucky to get a dirty water dog server with clean hands!!!
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22. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Kevin and Drew?
The season is already a success.
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25. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Only if their wives/siblings/etc pop out of the hot dog cart, yell 'TWIST!' in chorus with the Festers, hop in a nearby car, and get on the course with the other teams.

And now I'm stuck imagining Fester wives. Weird pictures.

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55. "Hooray!"
Yet it appears only one person recognized the Festers! I laughed out loud when I saw them-what a great cameo!

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109. "RE: Hooray!"
Yeah! The Festers. I was sitting there thinking they looked familiar, and DD recognized them from an earlier race

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23. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The eyes have it: it's an official Fester sighting.

D'you think this is going to happen all over the course? As we hit various Racer hometowns, the old teams will come out to take a bow? I'm dreading Texas.

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125. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-05 AT 11:18 PM (EST)

I'm absolutley sure they will have previous Racers all over the Race. Can't imagine that they would have just one cameo in the first episode.

It's a hook that works for me, that's for sure. Bad news for the summary writers, who now have to explain the relevance of former teams.

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18. "Next Stop: Find a hot dog"
The Linz (Team media whore) and Gahgan families (team with the two smaller kids) found the sporting goods store and are off to the next stop. Several other teams trailing behind.

Schroeder family - 3rd (New Orleans family)
Godelewski sisters - 4th

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138. "RE: Next Stop: Find a hot dog"
First time poster, love lurking in the background, but am dying to know why I've seen several referals to the Cincinnati family (Linz brothers and sister) as "team media whore"? I especially like their hometown Tshirts, "whodey" (cincinnati Bengals, and the St.X shirt) I suppose I'm showing my Cincinnati affiliation.
Personal observation: The Geghan family is truly obnoxious. Everyone seems to think the little girl is cute, but with 25 years in child care, I'd think I'd have to sit that child in a serious time out. Snot nose little brat! Thinks she can eavesdrop on the other families! Duh! Like someone won't catch on to her lurking around! Can't wait until next week when they have to carry the stretchers at the Civil War battlefield reenactment. Wont' do much good when those 2 little rugrats sit back watching their parents, while the other families having 4 able bodies. All the 5K marathons won't help them there.
And arent' they the same family that the mother made the snooty ##### comment "don't imagine that any of these other families have any travel experience outside the U.S., we're world travelers! Gag me while I'll burn my passport!
Basically, I'm waiting for them to getting eliminated, so the challenges can't truly get "challenging".
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139. "RE: Next Stop: Find a hot dog"
Welcome to the boards, mandysmom! Pick up a chair, grab a drink, and get comfortable; these boards can become very addictive as you spend time on them.

As far as Team Media Whore is concerned, I gave them that label because I remember reading earlier that they had been "recruited" for the show by producers rather than going through the normal application channels. I'm sure they probably weren't the only ones, but it's rather pathetic that producers hand-pick what they think will be ratings-increasing teams that aren't necessarily interested in the show when so many other people pine to be on it. Plus, they quite frankly look like they just came out of central casting. Besides the dubious way they got on the show, I don't have anything else against them per se (although it was rather funny how they made numerous blunders in the first episode - they kind of remind me of Reichen and Chip, overcome numerous idiotic mistakes through brute force).

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19. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Family from the Bronx totally lost in Manhattan.
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20. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I was not on the bandwagon for the family edition but I have to admit this may be fun to watch. I have already been entertained more than I thought I would.
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27. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I'm loving it!!!

It is TAR after all, it could never be all bad. Even if there were 10 teams of 4 Jonathans!

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29. "Bite your tounge!"
Those sort of thoughts should be banned! *shudders*
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28. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Little girl is cute. ARe they allowed to use spray paint? They discourage it honey?
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30. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The Pink Girls are a riot.

And the father with his three sons-in-law (son-in-laws), this could be interesting.

Much better, based on the first 30 minutes, then I anticipated.

Too many teams right now for me to keep track of.

Is that really the Festers at the hot dog stand?

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31. "Next Stop: George Washington Crossing"
Linz family first to find the Festers with the hot dogs. Gaghan family not far behind. Schroeber's still in 3rd place.

The family with the Italian immigrant father is cute as hell, but they're fighting too much. I think they're our first eliminee.

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32. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
There going to Washington's crossing in Pennsylvania. (yay, my home state, not anywhere near my home though)
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36. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-05 AT 09:22 PM (EST)

Weaver mom: The clue is in Pennsylvania, do they mean the state of Pennsylvania?

later...
I think Pennsylvania might be a state.

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128. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I know we're supposed to feel sympathy for them, but it gets harder every time one of them opens their mouth.
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33. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Does anyone else flinch every time they show "The Black Family" when that family just happens to be the only Black family in the race? I know it's their name (although it took me a minute when they first showed it), but I can't help the flinch.
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133. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
YES!!! Oh my god, I had such a bad blonde moment when I noticed that it said "Black Family" and I thought, "Uh oh, CBS is going to be in big trouble over THAT. Oh, wait...that's their NAME!"
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34. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Look at 'em...they are hangin out like monkeys.
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35. "What I find most shocking so far . . ."
No one has recognized the Festers?

Current Standings:

1st - Linz
2nd - Gaghan
3rd - Schroeber (New Orleans)
4th - Godelowski (Sisters)
5th - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)
6th - Weaver

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38. "RE: What I find most shocking so far . . ."
I know!!! Dood! I'd be standing there chatting with them for at least 10 minutes!!!
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40. "RE: What I find most shocking so far . . ."
One guy finally did and told them they were the best which they thought was very nice.
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45. "RE: What I find most shocking so far . . ."
Doesn't anyone respect their DAW forefathers anymore?
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37. "Pennsylvania???"
Is that like the state of Pennsylvania???
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39. "RE: Pennsylvania???"
Pennsylvania may be a state??

Education in America is dead.

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41. "Know what I love???"
I have literally been to every spot they have been so far and where they are going in this episode!

I love the fact that they will be visiting mostly very familiar places.

I? would've kicked butt this leg! What with being from the tri-state area and all.

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46. "RE: Know what I love???"
Me too! I'm so excited I've been everyplace they have so far.

Also, man....maybe next season it should be The Amazing Race America. There's tons of interesting places here that people can get lost going to. LOL 50 States that some of the contestants have never heard of.

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48. "RE: Know what I love???"
*snort*

Is Pennsylvania one of those 50 states???

Welcome!

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49. "RE: Know what I love???"
Philadelphia....is that a state too?
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51. "RE: Know what I love???"
*giggle*

I love it! They have to camp in Fairmount Park and get a departure time form an Eagle Scout after they've set up their tent correctly!

I love Philly!

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42. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
"You gotta rememba. They're families... they got kids, too. They gotta go to da bathroom."

"Oh... That's a good idea. Does anyone..." "NOOOOOOOOO!"

Classic.

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43. "Delaware River Update"
Team Media Whore (Linz) makes a crucial mistake. They see that the information office is closed and think they must wait. They are either in the wrong place or haven't discovered the boats yet.

Shake up in the standings:

1st - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)
2nd - Bransen family

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44. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Shroeder's are following Godlewskis who are lost.
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47. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I liked "we are following the pink ladies they seem to know where they are going"

Cut to Pink Ladies car "They are following us and we have no idea where we are going".

Priceless

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50. "My Neck of the Woods"
I can't believe they camped in Fairmount Park, Philly -- TAR must have had lots of security on watch for that camping trip.
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57. "RE: My Neck of the Woods"
So true! Nice and dark for all kinds of naughty things to do.
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52. "Quick Question"
Do we already know ther are traveling the world, or is it possible this entire race is through the US. Maybe it's a stupid question, just wasn't sure if anyone knew.
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54. "RE: Quick Question"
Possible locations are in a separate thread for those who want to know.

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1191.shtml

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58. "RE: Quick Question"
Thanks, I think it's so neat they're going through my home state. (ok, I really am a DAW)
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53. "Updated Standings:"
Done with Delaware River crossing:

1st - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)
2nd - Bransen (Father & Grown Daughters)
3rd - Rogers (Completely ordinary?)
4th - Weaver (Widow & kids)
5th - Gaghan (Team with two cute small kids)
6th - Schroeber (New Orleans family)

Missing in Action:

Godlewski (Sisters)
Black
Linz (Team Media Whore)
Paolo (Italian immigrant father)

Whoa, the Linz family has really squandered their huge lead.

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59. "RE: Updated Standings:"
Whoa, the Linz family has really squandered their huge lead

They're from Cincinnati, must be Reds fans.

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61. "Bwahahahaha"
Reds fans! Bwahahaha!!!
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63. "Apropos"
*SNORT*
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94. "RE: Updated Standings:"
I hope they win b/c they're closest to my area.
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56. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Now how did they manage to find any good roads in Pennsylvania to drive on. I didn't think there were any that weren't loaded with 50 potholes per square mile.
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62. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Ummm... They stayed off of the turnpike where, I think, there's more than 50 potoles/mile? I love the state (I really do), but the turnpike is just terrible. Now, MI roads are worse, IMO, but that's not sayin' much.
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64. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Welcome to bunching point #1 of ???
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65. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Did I just hear "The swamp water has done something to my brain."? Said by someone totally lost.
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66. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Ok, I missed the first 45 minutes of the show. I arrive home, turn on the TV to heard a team suggest that maybe they should get a map.

45 minutes, I don't know how much time that represents - but now they think of getting a map?

Also I was rooting for the Black team but they are looking bad with the water crossing.

Love the tent test, I would rock doing that and the paddling.

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72. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
45 minutes, I don't know how much time that represents - but now they think of getting a map?

It means pretty much a whole day!


Love the tent test, I would rock doing that and the paddling.

Me too! ...and hrmph! someone said women aren't supposed to pitch tents! PULEESE!!!

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67. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Momma loses the clue! That poor family just can't get anything right.
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73. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Being half Italiana myself, I knew this family was going to be a mess. Very, very sterotypical Italian family.
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68. "Elimination casting."
Does anyone else think the Paolos were put on the show just to be the first team out?
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76. "RE: Elimination casting."
OMG! It is so obvious they are a total comedy of errors!

...and they just keep arguing!

Now they said, "we don't need the clue"!

Doesn't Phil collect them at the Pit Stop???

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81. "Potential Big Mistake?"
"Doesn't Phil collect them at the Pit Stop??"

That's what I was wondering! I wonder if that might come back and mess them up in the end.

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84. "RE: Potential Big Mistake?"
...and therefore they will be the ones eliminated???
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69. "Oh My Gosh"
Mama Paoli (sp?) dropped her clue at the river crossing. At least she noticed it while they were on the road, before they reached the campsite.

Are they in last place, or are the Pink Ladies behind them? I've lost track.

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74. "RE: Oh My Gosh"
They showed a 10th place caption below them after they left the river, so I'm gonna go with yes, and now that they will go back...
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70. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The Paolo family lost their clue and are gonna go back. They are already in last. It's not looking good, but they already seem a bit too tense for this game, so I'll admit, I won't miss them.
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71. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Oops... Keeping your clue is usually helpful. And now Mom has to hear about it from her son. Hope these families are strong.
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78. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Awwwww.... the other teams helped pitch the tents for the last few teams.
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75. "At the Park:"
10:00 AM Departure Time

1st - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)*
2nd - Weaver (Widow & kids)*
3rd - Gaghan (Team with two cute small kids)

10:30 AM Departure Time
4th - Bransen (Father & Grown Daughters)
5th - Rogers (Completely ordinary?)
6th - Schroeber (New Orleans family)

On their way:

Black
Godlewski (Sisters)
Linz (Team Media Whore)
Paolo (Italian immigrant father)

The Paolo family forgot their clue back at the Delaware Crossing. They are understandly upset, but it really won't cost them much in my estimation. They were going to get the latest start time anyway. Still, I don't think they're long for this game, although it would be a nice surprise if they somehow skated by this episode.

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77. "RE: At the Park:"
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-05 AT 09:56 PM (EST)

Why the asterix next to the first two teams? Just to highlight them?

ETA: to remove my sigpic

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85. "RE: At the Park:"
Those asteriks are there because I forgot to delete them before I posted. It's all part of my overly complicated note taking procedure. No special significance though, I was just using it to differentiate them from other teams at a certain point in the race.
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90. "RE: At the Park:"
of course, sorry to ask, I just thought I had missed some sort of extensive encoding that everyone else understood. eeek.
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96. "No Problem . . ."
I would be confused too if random asteriks appeared out of nowhere.
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09-27-05, 09:56 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
It's nice that they're all helping each other at this stage. No use in ticking anybody off.

The little girl is AWESOME!

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83. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The little girl is totally cute. I hope she doesn't turn bratty as the race goes on. I guess that's when she will turn sneaky.
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80. "Ugh!"
Breaking camp in the pouring rain. Yuck!

OMG! Mount Joy Pa!!! Joe Amato lives there! (not that a lot of you know who he is).

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141. "RE: Ugh!"
I do, Madame Cha-Cha.
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09-27-05, 09:57 PM (EST)
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82. "Attention all Reality TV Show Contestants and future DAWs"
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-05 AT 10:05 PM (EST)

to Maggot, Yellvette, The Weavers, and whoever else it may concern

Message from God: Stop bringing me into reality TV

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92. "RE: Attention all Reality TV Show Contestants and future DAWs"
LOL! (He might, maybe, take an interest in a runaway carriage that someone can't find the brakes on, though. But, I'm not too sure about that.)
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93. "RE: Attention all Reality TV Show Contestants and future DAWs"
Amen
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86. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Buggy challange families with kids may have advantage as they are not so hard to pull (although they can't trade out).

Gack buggy accident, gotta rewind the DVR, I was typing.

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88. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Was that the family that lost their dad in an accident that just ran over their mom with the buggy?
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91. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Yeah, I thought the Gaghan family would have an advantage with the two small kids, but I think they might have been the ones who got into the accident with the run-away buggy. Or was it the Weaver family? Not sure . . .
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87. "Ouch"
OMG, Weavers ran over mom. Too much screaming from this team & not enough thinking -- BRAKES
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89. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The Weavers' buggy started going down hill out of control, they started screaming and right before commercial, we see one come out under the back of the buggy, possibly having been run over by the buggy.
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95. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
On.edge.of.seat.how.many.freaking.commercials.
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97. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Mom is OK, buggy is not. They go over to do the build it thing.
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98. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I think build would have been easier (and I SO think I would have wanted to slap the two little kids singing "She'll be Comin' Round the Mountain" and backseat driving).
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99. "Chortle . . ."
The Gaghan kids singing "They'll be Coming Around the Mountain" as they pass the Aiello family on the racetrack. Hilarious.

Current Standings:

1st - Weaver (Widow & kids)
2nd - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)
3rd - Gaghan (Team with two cute small kids)
4th - Linz (Team Media Whore)
5th - Godlewski (Sisters)
6th - Bransen (Father & Grown Daughters)
7th - Black
8th - Schroeber (New Orleans family)
9th -
Rogers (Completely ordinary?)
10th - Paolo (Italian immigrant father)

Aiello, Gaghan, and Linz are pulling the buggy. Other teams are building.

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100. "RE: Chortle . . ."
Yep, hilarious!!!
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102. "hmm, The Black Family has two cute kids too"
This is the year 2005?
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108. "RE: hmm, The Black Family has two cute kids too"
Yes, they do. As I said earlier (^points up^) the on-screen reference as "The Black Family" is somewhat unsettling, but that's their name - descriptive enough, I suppose, for us to differentiate the teams. The other teams are more difficult to differentiate on the first episode, and their cute kids seem to be younger than the cute kids in the Black family. I'm sure no disrespect was, or is, intended.
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111. "RE: hmm, The Black Family has two cute kids too"
I'm sure you are probably right.
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101. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Buggy it may be tougher than they thought. They have to go out, turnaround and comeback. Linz team is exhausted. Gaghan kids are starting to get annoying (I hope they don't get first place). Could be editing, but it looks like build it may be quicker. I hope it is.
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103. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Weaver family finishes Build it and must drive to pit stop in Lancaster, PA.
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104. "Pit Stop: Rohrer Family Farm!"
Weaver family on their way. Building it apparently is quicker.
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105. "Pit Stop coming!!!"
a menonite farm in Lancaster, Pa.

The last family to check in WILL be eliminated!

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114. "RE: Pit Stop coming!!!"
brings back memories of 'Amish in the City' (Jonas, Mose, Randy, Ariel, Whitney.....)
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106. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Godlewski family is team #1, wins $20,000.
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110. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Gaghan family and Weaver family footrace to mat. Gaghans take 2nd place, Weavers get 3rd.
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112. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I know they are marathon runners, but wouldn't you be just a little embarased to be outrun in a sprint by those two little kids?

I know that I would have been.

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107. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I need a brief word with the Almighty (appologies to The Daily Show).

What part of "strike reality show contestants that pray for you to help them in a freaking game dead with bolts of lightening " DO YOU NOT GET!!!

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116. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Bwahahahaha... I <3 you, Snidget.
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113. "Rankings"
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-05 AT 10:42 PM (EST)

To be edited as other teams come in . . .

Pit Stop:

1st - Godlewski (Sisters)
2nd - Gaghan (Team with two cute small kids)
3rd - Weaver (Widow & kids)
4th - Rogers (Completely ordinary?)
5th - Schroeber (New Orleans family)
6th - Paolo (Italian immigrant father)
7th - Bransen (Father & Grown Daughters)
8th - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)
9th - Linz (Team Media Whore)
10th - Black

Leaving Detour:

1st - Weaver (Widow & kids)
2nd - Godlewski (Sisters)
3rd - Gaghan (Team with two cute small kids)
4th - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)
5th - Bransen (Father & Grown Daughters)
6th - Rogers (Completely ordinary?)
7th - Schroeber (New Orleans family)
8th - Paolo (Italian immigrant father)
9th - Black
10th - Linz (Team Media Whore)

Arriving at Detour:

1st - Aiello (Father & Son-in-laws)
2nd - Weaver (Widow & kids)
3rd - Gaghan (Team with two cute small kids)
4th - Linz (Team Media Whore)
5th - Godlewski (Sisters)
6th - Bransen (Father & Grown Daughters)
7th - Black
8th - Schroeber (New Orleans family)
9th - Rogers (Completely ordinary?)
10th - Paolo (Italian immigrant father)

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115. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Black and Linz likely in race for 9th and last place. Linz still moving buggy and Black still building.
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117. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-05 AT 10:44 PM (EST)

Arrival at Pit Stop

#1 Godlewski (blondes)
#2 Gaghan (rugrats)
#3 Weaver (mom & kids)
#4 Rodgers (normal)
#5 Schroeder (new orleans)
#6 Paolo (italian dad)
#7 Bransen (dad & daughters)
#8 Aiello (dad & in laws)
#9 Linz (media whores)
#10 Black (eliminated)

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118. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The Paolo family is getting on my nerves.
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120. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I like the father well enough, but if I have to listen to the mother and two sons go back and forth for a couple of weeks, I'm going to go nuts.
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123. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
That is one mean MOTHER! I would like the family if not for her. Did you see how she shoved her son like that? What a witch.
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130. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Didn't you see all the disrespecting the sons were giving to her? Yeah, she is mouthy too, but sheesh.
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131. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
And have you listened to how her sons have talked to her the entire episode? What a bunch of spoiled little brats. The whole family should have been on Dr. Phil not TAR.
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136. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Ugh. It's the first thing I wanted to say about the Paolo family. I was disgusted with the mother when she told those guys folding the flag to hurry it up. How disrespectful! Also the fact that one of her sons got so impatient with people crossing the crosswalk in NYC. Oh forbid the people legally crossing the street! When I saw that the mother dropped the clue, oh man, I was hoping they'd get philiminated. BUT...it didn't happen. Instead, the Black family got philiminated.
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119. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The Black team is philiminated. Oh well I liked them.
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122. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I wasn't sure if I would like families on the race but I loved it. The family dynamics are great and I like the challenges so far.

Sad to see the Black family go because they seemed really nice and supportive of each other.

See you all next week.

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124. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
When it was getting down to the final teams I was hoping they could pull it out. I liked them a lot better than the other teams in the bottom of the pack.

Phil seems to be pretty good at putting a nice spin on it for the kids.

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129. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
The mom of the Black family was pretty cute IMO. Sorry to see them go so soon.
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121. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Darn! I really wanted to see how the Black family kids would react, seeing the rest of the country or world. Maybe TAR will do another season where they stipulate that some team members must be under-age. I do hope the other teams with under-agers will fare well. At least long enough for the kids to see and experience something outside their normal sphere. The adult-only teams? Right now I don't care so much about how they do.
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126. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I know that the Linz's probably win, but I REALLY don't want to see it happen. Not that I don't like them, it's just that they already look like they'll win. Noi excitment.
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135. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Why would you say it looks like they will win? They came in second last, and showed that they can make huge mistakes regularly.
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127. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Im sad to see the Black family eliminated, they seems pretty cool family and they work hard as a team. i dont like the Godlewski "screamer" sister. they are pretty annoying and the paolo family but the paolo father is very patient and i feel bad for him., so far i like the Gaghan family the little girl is so cute. lol
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132. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"

I have made up my mind on a few families. The Gaghan family is a little stuck up for me, even the kids. I like the Weaver family and the Black family (sorry they're out already). The Paolo family are ANNOYING and whiney, i want them gone. And the family with the father 2 kids and step mom need to go too. The dad there was creepy and evil.
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134. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
This season brought to you by the words "jump" and "shark." Teams of two were perfect for the show, teams of four are too many for me. Agree with whoever pointed out that if minors are to be allowed to play, all teams should be required to have minors on board.
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137. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
I'm getting a headache just keeping track of teams of 4, let alone 40 people. =)
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143. "RE: S8-EP1 East Coast Update Thread"
Don't worry, it is already down to 36 people. It will get easyier with time
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