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"TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-05 AT 00:13 AM (EST)

Here are frame grabs from the preview shown at the end of Episode 10.
London, here we come! Just don't let Jerome drive the bus...


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The Audio:


Phil: On the next episode of The Amazing Race...

Uchenna helps Meredith and Gretchen with a difficult detour.

Uchenna: Meredith and Gretchen are good people, man. I hate to see them break their backs like this.

Phil: And the Roadblock drives teams crazy.

Rawb: It's haaad! I'm sorry.

Meredith: Arrgh!
Gretchen: Augh!
Ron: Awwwr!

It's like teaching women how to drive.


Joyce: I can't understand what the hell you're sayin'!



These reality show contestants need a reality check!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... PepeLePew13 04-27-05 1
 We be in Hyde Park, London! TARJUNKIE999 04-27-05 2
 Bus Roadblock is near Millenium Dom... TARJUNKIE999 04-27-05 3
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... waldo555 04-27-05 4
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... Neobie 04-27-05 5
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... Gingerman28 04-27-05 6
 Ep. 11 preview is up on CBS web sit... choochoo 04-27-05 7
   RE: Ep. 11 preview is up on CBS web... Voltec 05-03-05 103
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... weecama 04-27-05 8
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... gwrbassin 04-27-05 9
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... incident 04-27-05 10
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... choochoo 04-27-05 12
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... TARJUNKIE999 04-27-05 18
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... weecama 04-28-05 21
               RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... choochoo 04-28-05 25
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... waldo555 04-28-05 29
           London airports gatortod 04-28-05 31
               RE: London airports choochoo 04-28-05 32
                   RE: London airports TARJUNKIE999 04-28-05 33
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... Neobie 04-27-05 16
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... packrat 04-27-05 19
   Glum face gatortod 04-28-05 24
       RE: Glum face Pianomommy 04-29-05 37
           RE: Glum face michel 04-30-05 64
   Beatles challenge in Turkey? choochoo 04-28-05 26
       RE: Beatles challenge in Turkey? Gingerman28 04-28-05 27
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... CwazyWabbit 04-27-05 11
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... JackieKay 04-27-05 13
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... GameOver3 04-27-05 14
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... CwazyWabbit 04-27-05 15
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... JackieKay 04-27-05 17
               RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... acroz 04-28-05 20
                   RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... guyRaven 04-28-05 22
                       RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... gwrbassin 04-28-05 23
                       RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... globespinner 04-28-05 30
                           RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcap... happjack2002 04-28-05 34
 Abbey Road WebCam TARJUNKIE999 04-28-05 28
   RE: Abbey Road WebCam Gingerman28 04-29-05 35
       RE: Abbey Road WebCam canadafan 04-29-05 36
           RE: Abbey Road WebCam ARnutz 04-29-05 39
       RE: Abbey Road WebCam TARJUNKIE999 04-29-05 40
           RE: Abbey Road WebCam RBA 04-29-05 45
           RE: Abbey Road WebCam Gingerman28 04-29-05 53
               RE: Abbey Road WebCam RBA 04-29-05 54
               RE: Abbey Road WebCam weecama 04-29-05 55
                   RE: Abbey Road WebCam choochoo 04-30-05 56
   RE: Abbey Road WebCam choochoo 04-29-05 48
 Bus pictures... HobbsofMI 04-29-05 38
   RE: Bus pictures... ARnutz 04-29-05 46
       RE: Bus pictures... HobbsofMI 04-29-05 49
 Boat Numbers? HobbsofMI 04-29-05 41
   The boats! ARnutz 04-29-05 42
       RE: The boats! RBA 04-29-05 43
           RE: The boats! ARnutz 04-29-05 44
               Das Boot! choochoo 04-29-05 47
                   RE: Das Boot! HobbsofMI 04-29-05 50
                       Time of day The Amazing Racer 04-29-05 51
                           RE: Time of day beau_30 05-03-05 108
       RE: The boats! RBA 04-29-05 52
           RE: The boats! guyRaven 04-30-05 57
               Some NEW observations Gingerman28 04-30-05 58
                   RE: Some NEW observations ARnutz 04-30-05 59
                       RE: Some NEW observations choochoo 04-30-05 60
                       Of course... ARnutz 05-01-05 87
                   RE: Some NEW observations TARJUNKIE999 04-30-05 61
                       RE: Some NEW observations Gingerman28 04-30-05 62
                           RE: Some NEW observations TARJUNKIE999 04-30-05 63
                               Jackets ARnutz 04-30-05 65
                                   RE: Jackets Gingerman28 04-30-05 66
                                   RE: Jackets Gryoda 05-01-05 67
                                       RE: Jackets choochoo 05-01-05 69
                                           RE: Jackets ARnutz 05-01-05 72
                               RE: Some NEW observations choochoo 05-01-05 68
 I live in London...My thoughts... admanmcd 05-01-05 70
   RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... admanmcd 05-01-05 71
       RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... ARnutz 05-01-05 73
           RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... admanmcd 05-01-05 74
               RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... ARnutz 05-01-05 75
                   RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... admanmcd 05-01-05 76
                       RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... ARnutz 05-01-05 77
                           RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... admanmcd 05-01-05 78
                               RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... ARnutz 05-01-05 79
                                   RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... admanmcd 05-01-05 81
                                       RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... ARnutz 05-01-05 82
                               RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... admanmcd 05-01-05 80
                                   RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... Lula 05-01-05 83
                               RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... flipxcyd 05-01-05 89
   RE: I live in London...My thoughts.... weecama 05-01-05 88
 Trains, London Map and MORE (BIG PO... admanmcd 05-01-05 84
   RE: Trains, London Map and MORE (BI... Gingerman28 05-01-05 85
       RE: opening early... admanmcd 05-01-05 86
           RE: opening early... Gingerman28 05-02-05 90
               RE: opening early... admanmcd 05-02-05 91
                   RE: opening early... KObrien_fan 05-02-05 93
                       RE: opening early... admanmcd 05-02-05 96
 My train map to help you guyz out..... admanmcd 05-02-05 92
   RE: My train map to help you guyz o... KObrien_fan 05-02-05 94
       RE: My train map to help you guyz o... admanmcd 05-02-05 95
   Large picture problem... again IceCat 05-02-05 97
       Sig Pic Guidelines... IceCat 05-02-05 98
           RE: Sig Pic Guidelines... guyRaven 05-02-05 99
               RE: Sig Pic Guidelines... beau_30 05-03-05 100
                   Press Release weecama 05-03-05 101
                       RE: Press Release guyRaven 05-03-05 102
                           RE: Press Release beau_30 05-03-05 105
               RE: Sig Pic Guidelines... KObrien_fan 05-03-05 104
                   RE: Sig Pic Guidelines... pmspml5 05-03-05 106
                       RE: Sig Pic Guidelines... KObrien_fan 05-03-05 107
                           Yielded beau_30 05-03-05 109
                               tv guide brfan 05-03-05 110
                               RE: Yielded packrat 05-03-05 111
                                   RE: Yielded michel 05-03-05 112
 "Boat Hoax" uncovered TARJUNKIE999 05-04-05 113

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1. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-05 AT 00:17 AM (EST)

Now there is an original challenge! Great idea for one to drive a traditional London bus -- too bad they couldn't do it through downtown London in the middle of rush hour...

I notice that Gretchen is wearing something that Joyce would wear -- that's probably where she got these clothes from.

The boats look like it's one of the detour choices as we don't see Romber or Ron/Kelly there, and the buses are the roadblock as all four teams are seen. Edited as TJ had inserted the audio confirming the detour and roadblock while I was composing my message.



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2. "We be in Hyde Park, London!"
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-05 AT 10:56 AM (EST)

Row boats in vidcaps #1-6 are most likely rental boats at The Serpentine in London's Hyde Park.

...pix of Hyde Park boat on right is similar...

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3. "Bus Roadblock is near Millenium Dome, London"
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-05 AT 02:18 AM (EST)

Structure behind Gretchen in vidcap #16 is the Millenium Dome in London. Bus roadblock is in the parking lot next to dome.

Hers's a map of central London showing Millenium Dome on east side, and Hyde Park (not shown), way to the west, past Houses of Parliament.

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4. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"

It looks like Rob does the Roadblock here. That means, if I'm not mistaken, he has done 6 of them. So Amber has to do the nest two. I think shes up for it, she must be pretty tough if she won survivor, right?
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5. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Add that to the 'greeter' in the Opening Sequence on the bridge in front of the Houses of Parliament, and we basically have the route drawn out for us. Usually, the clips in the Opening Sequence that are not related the race actually happen in real life (Indian cobra, which we saw today). A town-crier in downtown London? Not so much. Although this would be a dead giveaway for spoilers...

I'm led to believe that someone will be Yielded next week. The CBS website screams 'Who will be Yielded?' They've always been very careful with words, replacing 'Who will be eliminated tonight?' with 'Who will be eliminated next?' on non-elimination episodes in the early seasons.

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6. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-05 AT 11:29 AM (EST)

Welcome to Londontown!!

Looks like teams arrived around noontime at pit stop in Istanbul (sun in their faces from the South); which means that teams will be leaving in the early morning again (Hope Ron and Kelly enjoy their suite in the Four Seasons but remember to set their alarms!- or will they be having too much fun to sleep?)

Several flight possibliites from Istanbul to London: KLM LV 5:55AM, AR 10:50AM; LH LV 5:45AM AR 10:15AM; BA LV 8:55AM AR 11:05AM; or Turkish Airlives LV 8:30AM AR 10:30AM

Sunrise in mid-December is at 7:57AM and Sunset is at 3:51PM (We're far north and it is Winter: Av High 46, AV Low 34)

So if the team are arriving in mid-morning they probably are doing the ROADBLOCK at the end of the day since we see the sun setting and stadium lights being turned on. Task seems to be to perform a standard bus driver's licensing test. (Note bobby in yellow jacket behind one bus). Team members: Rob, Kelly, Meredith and Joyce, must drive big, red double-decker bus (on the way out by the way being replaced by other buses) All four seem to have real trouble backing the bus up through the pylons on the parking lot.

It looks from the amount of daylight showing that R/A and R/K are doing the task before U/J and M/G. One of these teams may have been YIELDED. Don't see anyone yielding M/G so it looks like R/A yielded U/J (just a guess at this point in time.)

Rob really looks frustrated and gets up so fast from the driver's seat (Pix 10 and ll) that the poor soundman behind him doesn't have time to duck. (The producers are very careful not to show production types near or behind the teams members, but in this case with all players wired with wireless mikes and the need to have a soundperson nearby to receive signals the soundperson had to be in the bus with Rob)

DETOUR (or at least one part of the Detour) envolves a task of moving a number of blue rowboats from the Serpentine Lake in Hyde Park (central London) up a hill to a parking area. It looks like they have to move at least four boats from the lake. While we only see M/G doing this task, U/J looks like they have completed stacking their four boats (nos: 14, 24, 19, and X) and Uchenna is seen helping M/G move their fourth boat (no. 6) up the hill and then leaves them on their own to stack it onto nos. xx, 8, and 24. (And they seem to be having a lot of trouble moving that boat onto their pile.) R/K and R/A may be off doing the other Detour Task or have not arrived at the Serepentine Lake site yet.

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7. "Ep. 11 preview is up on CBS web site"
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-05 AT 12:52 PM (EST)

Latest CBS preview of Episode 11 is up on CBS web site. Lots of additional stuff. Looks like Gretchen/Meredith (and R/K & U/J) have to ride on the London Eye (ferris wheel) to find (see) their next clue. Note: once on the wheel it takes 30 mintes for one revolution. This could cause bunching.

Uchenna/Joyce don't know a famous Beatles song. Preview shows people crossing Abbey Road (location for famous Beatles album cover, near Abbey Road Studios).

Looks like when the teams arrive at Heathrow, they need to take the express airport train to Paddington Station. Then it's just a quick walk to Hyde Park. Probably faster than by taxi.

Edited to add: Interactive map of London.


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103. "RE: Ep. 11 preview is up on CBS web site"
LAST EDITED ON 05-03-05 AT 05:40 AM (EST)

"Looks like Gretchen/Meredith (and R/K & U/J) have to ride on the London Eye (ferris wheel) to find (see) their next clue. Note: once on the wheel it takes 30 mintes for one revolution. This could cause bunching."

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You are right that it does take 30 minutes for one revolution so they would be on it for 30 minutes... but it would NOT cause bunching. The wheel never stops to load passengers, it continuously rotates at a slow rate and people disembark from the car and then the next group of up to 25 enter the 'car'.

So, if two teams get there within a couple of minutes of each other, they COULD possibly be in the same car (there is typically a line so if there weren't alot of people arriving in the couple of mins, they could be within 25 people of each other... however, if someone arrives 15 minutes before them, that group will be leaving approx 15 minutes before they complete the ride.

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8. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-27-05 AT 05:07 PM (EST)

VO: CBS Tuesday ..Sweethearts Rob And Amber take a big gamble to win the Amazing Race
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Rob Confessional: If we miss the connection we can put ourselves completely out of this race
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VO: In London solving a mystery could lead the teams clueless
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Gretchen : Where could it be ?
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VO: and what does a famous Beatles record have to do with the race ? < Abbey Road>
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Joyce<taxi>: I don't know any Beatles Albums
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VO: Only Two Heart stopping Episodes to go

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Uchenna: Its anybodys game at this point
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VO:Its coming down to the wire on an all new Amazing Race CBs Tuesday

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9. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
All the Rob and Amber qoutes seem to be to much. Sounds like misdirection to me. They want us to think that they are going to be gone next week. We will see but I don't think they are due to these qoutes.
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10. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Ok, those are very very interesting vidcaps..

there's a central london tube map >here

So, from those photos:

#27 is the platform of the Heathrow Express train into London.

#31 is a train on the Northen Line (coloured black on the tube map)

#32 is Tower Bridge, London

#33 and #38-#41 are all taken from within the capsules on the London Eye

#43 and #44 are Abbey Road (nearest tube stop: Angel, on the Northen Line)

Finally, #57 is the inside of a Circle (yellow) line train.

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12. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Vidcap #34 is Sherlock Holmes Museum @ 221b Baker Street, near Regents Park, and not far from Abbey Road and Hyde Park. All are in the same general area.


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18. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-05 AT 01:12 AM (EST)

Hmm...vidcap #57 has really got me thinking. Why would only Romber be shown on the "yellow" Circle Line? Could it be the big "risk" that they are heard talking about? Why be on the Circle Line at all, if not to get from Victoria Station to the first clue box (Hyde Park, Abbey Road, etc.). Maybe they risk it all and try and find a earlier flight that gets them into Gatwick. Then they would take the Gatwick Express train to Victoria Station (instead of Paddington, like the other racers). Then take the Circle Line to the first clue. Hmm...I wonder... Might explain a lot of things. Might also mean that they have a big lead on the others, as they do their bus roadblock in daylight, while the geezers struggle at twilight.

Edited to add: Yep, it's the Circle Line train, as this picture shows of "C" Stock train interiors used on this line. Good catch!



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21. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-05 AT 02:04 AM (EST)

TARJunkie ,incident , nice match!


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25. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-05 AT 11:24 AM (EST)

Cool! Good spoiling, guys.

FYI, London Subway (Tube) Map
http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/tubemap/default.asp

Looks like once they get the detours out of the way up north, they can take the Jubilee Line to London Eye and then straight on to Canary Wharf (Millenium Dome). No need for any taxis.

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29. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"

Ooooh good work TARJUNKIE. I bet that is what happened. After their airport screwup last week Romber is going to whatever it takes to get to the front of the pack.
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31. "London airports"
A little clarification please.

London has 2 airports? Heathrow and Gatwick.

Thanks.

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32. "RE: London airports"

London has 2 airports? Heathrow and Gatwick.

Only 2? I heard there were at least 4 airports in close proximity to London. Maybe only these two take international flights. I'm sure someone here knows the answer.


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33. "RE: London airports"

Very close, choochoo. The BAA says there are 5.

http://www.londonnet.co.uk/ln/guide/resources/airports.html

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16. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-05 AT 09:56 AM (EST)

Nothing to report on the airport signs in the Rob/Amber pictures. Heathrow and Gatwick share the same design for airport signage. The Heathrow signs do appear yellow in some other photos. However, I was wondering, if Gatwick has a 'Customs' sign, would it have an almost synonymous 'Arrivals' sign as seen in the Romber photos? Perhaps Mr. "I'm in London" can help out...

Sherlock Holmes? The Beatles? Cool!

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19. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Pic #23 kinda looks like Rob bailed another roadblock. I don't think he would, but the pic makes it look that way. Surely he wouldn't do something this drastic at this point in the race, would he?
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24. "Glum face"
I am struck with Amber's glum facial expression in vidcap 30. I wonder if this is a post-leg confessional and they were just eliminated?!
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37. "RE: Glum face"
I had been feeling the same way. This is the first time that I have seen Amber so "glum" at a confessional. Normally she and Rob seem so full of themselves and this time they dont' seem that way. We can only hope they are emliminated this week.
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64. "RE: Glum face"
I think picture 30 has them worried about the risk of taking a different flight from the others. If you look at #35 which would be later since they are in London, they look like they're having fun. They've just arrived at the clue at the Sherlock Holmes' museum and must know how many clues were left in the box. If this is their choice for detour then we know why they weren't seen with the boats.
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26. "Beatles challenge in Turkey?"

I find something odd about this vidcap. The preview has Joyce saying that she doesn't know any Beatles albums. But she says it while sitting in a car with left-hand drive (cameraman is in right hand side seat). Do the racers have to do a Beatles challenge in Turkey before going to London? Or do they have to figure out their destination from the clue. Cool!


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27. "RE: Beatles challenge in Turkey?"
ChooChoo, I think the answer is that this shot of them at night or very early in the morning is U/J in the taxi leaving the pit stop in Istanbul on the way to the airport. Their first clue at the pitstop clue box is that they are to fly to London and find a location associated with a famous Beatles Album. That's why Joyce is saying: "I don't know any Beatles albums" and Uchenna is searching is memory. They may talk to the other racers, like Meredity and Gretchen who probably are more aware of Beatlemania that the others, and get the answer Abbey Road. But once the solve the mystery, they will still be clueless of what they are supposed to do when they arrive in London.

If the first stop is Abbey Road, they may then travel to the London Eye, from where they will have to spot some flag marker (as they did in an early series from the Eiffel Tour) but it may be something specific like Cleopatra's Needle in one direction or the Globe Theatre in the other direction. It is hard to say how far they can see from the top of the Eye which is located on the Themes at Bankside. I don't know if Big Ben or Westminster Brige (where the Town Cryer is) can be seen from the Eye.

Wherever, this may be the clue for the DETOUR: either move a bunch of boats from the Serpentine in Hyde Park (a physical task but taking a short time if your are strong) or hunt for clues to a puzzle you will get at the Sherlock Holmes Museum on Baker Street.(a less demanding task but may take much longer to complete.)

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11. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
I noticed something...is Uchenna wearing the same yellow shirt he is shown wearing in the PR pictures? You can't see what Joyce is wearing under her coat and the shirt she has on in the PR picture seems like something she might have gotten later.

What do you all think? Could this be proof of another non-elim?

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13. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
It looks like it is Uchenna's same yellow shirt, but in the PR picture his pants look grey, whereas in the preview to me they look black. Joyce appears to be wearing grey pants in both, but you can't tell with her shirt, because in the London pics she has a coat on, and in the PR pics she is wearing a sleeveless white shirt, which she easily could have on under her coat in London.
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14. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Uchenna definitely looks like he is wearing the yellow shirt/greenish brown pants that he has on in the picture from RaceyGirl.

Joyce was simply wearing a white shirt with no sleeves in the RaceyGirl picture. It doesn't look like she has a white shirt on at all under her jacket/sweater/other shirts.

Also, in regards to the picture of Gretchen in the dark. According to a poster at another board I visit, that is a result of the cameraman using something on his camera to dim out the bright lights behind them, causing the light in the sky to darken out.

Also, you can see Meredith is there during the same time as everyone else in the picture of him driving the bus, so its apparent they are all together at this point.

Due to what Uchenna/Joyce are wearing, its confusing as to if this is a non elimination leg or not, because we have Uchenna in the yellow shirt, but you can't see if Joyce is wearing the white shirt in the later photo from RaceyGirl.

Just because I don't think Uchenna will wear the same yellow shirt again later unless they get their clothes stripped from them, I'm thinking this next leg will be non elimination and Uchenna/Joyce take the final non elimination of the race, leading into a final episode with 4 teams at the start, but 3 teams racing for the cash in the 2nd hour and the final leg, fufilling the preview for the episode, but also being misleading.

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15. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
I am thinking the same thing. The fact that Joyce's pants look the same in the PR picture confirms it more for me than the shirt, because I seriously doubt she was wearing a sleeveless shirt in London or Turkey, so my guess is she got it later in Jamica, or Puerto Rico during the next leg.
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17. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
To me, Uchenna's pants are clearly different in the pics. The London pics he has very dark, black or almost black pants. The PR pants are much lighter. If this is the case though, that doesn't mean that you are not right about everything else ... he could have borrowed some from someone (perhaps got a pair back that he had loaned to Meredith?) or he could have layered up.
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20. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Multiple pictures show Uchenna without a backpack. Since there's no NEL between where they are now and London, this is more evidence that U&J ditched their bags for the rest of the race. Any thoughts?
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22. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Welcome to the boards.

On what u said, um not so sure abt that bro. Most of the pics of Uchenna and Joyce are during the detour (which means they wont carry along their backs during that time), roadblock (Joyce wont be carrying any since she is doing it while Uchenna is just standing there waiting, so he must have put down the backpack), in the taxi (put the bag..in the back!!! loL).

The only picture u can dispute on is at the train station... but Meredith is blocking the view of Joyce carrying her backpack. And Joyce is blocking the view of Uchenna carrying his backpack..

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23. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Also if you look real close at pic 55 of them in the train station you can see the strap to uchennas bag right over Merediths left shoulder. You can see the strap going Uchennas shoulder. it is hard to see because it is black and so is Merediths coat but if you zoom in on that area you can see the strap so the still have there bags in the train station.
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30. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
Something confusing in the vid caps; maybe someone can clear this up:
The double decker bus shots clearly look like a roadblock--each picture has one of the team members driving. It's clear that Rob is doing the driving, but why is he standing outside (like going, "Awww..") in number 12? Could it be that he and Amber were yeilded and he has to wait until he starts the task? Why else would he be standing there?
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34. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 11 Preview vidcaps"
>Something confusing in the vid caps;
>maybe someone can clear this
>up:
>The double decker bus shots clearly
>look like a roadblock--each picture
>has one of the team
>members driving. It's clear that
>Rob is doing the driving,
>but why is he standing
>outside (like going, "Awww..") in
>number 12? Could it be
>that he and Amber were
>yeilded and he has to
>wait until he starts the
>task? Why else would he
>be standing there?


I have a feeling Rob is outside the bus waiting for the judge or whoever to add up his time and penalties for the course and the ahhh is when he finds out that he has to do it again. I would think the Roadblock would be get threw the course in a certain time but if you hit a cone you get time added on.

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28. "Abbey Road WebCam"
LAST EDITED ON 04-28-05 AT 02:34 PM (EST)

Look what I just googled, the Abbey Road Webcam

Live view of famous crossing (as viewed from studio). Wonder if they could have recorded this last December so we could have seen the racers arrive to get their clues. Oh well.

Edited to add: London Eye / Parliament / Central London WebCam


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35. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
To keep everyone up to date with what we have been finding out so far about Ep11:

The airport which we see Rob and Amber arriving at is STANSTED. We have a match with the carpet they are walking on. We also find out that a low-cost airline, GERMANWINGS, lands at this airport and not at the larger Heathrow and Gatwick airports. Germanwings also flies from Istanbul to Cologne, Germany and has flights from Cologne, Germany to Stansted - London. Rob and Amber may find out that there is a flight leaving at 3:55AM from the smaller SABIHA AIRPORT (SAW) in Istanbul (the International Airport is Ataturk (IST). The flight arrives in Cologne at 6:00AM and there is another flight from Cologne to Stansted at 7:10AM arriving at 7:25AM (note one hour time change) But since this is not an "authorized" connecting flight, seats on this flight could not be confirmed in Istanbul. So Amber and Rob take the chance of getting on the flight to London and leave three hours ahead of the other teams at 3:55AM. The other teams most likely will be booking on the Turkish Airlines direct non-stop, flight leaving at 08:30 and arriving at 10:30AM, or on the Lufthansa flight leaving at 5:45AM connecting in Frankfurt and arriving in London at 10:15AM.

The first clue will take the teams to Abbey Road. But which one? There are 23 streets named Abbey Road. The one used on the Beatle's Album "Abbey Road" is in front of their studios in Ealing about 17 miles north of central London. BUT the sign on the Vidcap says: ABBEY ROAD, NW8, WESTMINSTER which is near the central London area where the clue box will be located.

This may lead them to the London Eye where they have to spot a flag or landmark such as Cleaoptra's Needle where the clue box will lead them to the DETOUR: either a Physical Task which won't take much time if you are strong enough to move four row boats from SERPENTINE LAKE in Hyde Park, or a Less-physical task acting as psueuo Sherlock Holmes to find clues, etec. starting at 221B Baker Street, the Sherlock Holmes Museum.

Eventually they get a clue taking them to the Millenium Dome where they run into the YIELD which I think Rob and Amber will put on Uchenna and Joyce. Ron and Kelly seem to be at the bus test about the same time as Rob and Amber. So they are not yielded, and Meredith and Gretchen still don't seem like a threat, so it falls on Uchenna and Joyce.

CBess has tried to make us believe that Rob is taking the big gamble of not completing the task with the hope that night will fall and it will be suspended. No, the gamble he took was flying to Cologne with Germanwings without confirmed seats on a continuing flight to London. He knows the game too well to take such a huge risk so late in the race. Even with only a four hour penalty, he would end up in last place and he is pretty sure that this leg is the eighth and final elimination leg.

This is an ELIMINATION leg and it looks like time will finally catch up with the determined mature travellers and they will depart.

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36. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/41a4f96a236809ae.html

Good thinking, except don't be so sure it's and elimination leg. CBS previews say that there's a yield. In TAR 5 & 6, the first 2 yields were on elimination legs but the third and final one was on non-elimination leg. Remember Colin/Christie, leg 10 in the Philippines and Adam/Rebecca also were yielded with the third one and were not eliminated. If CBS follows the same pattern, next week there's a yield on a non-elimination leg. Probably U/J because they were seen in Jamaica without their backpaks.

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39. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
In TAR 5 every leg had a yield (it was the first season for it), but only 1 was ever used. It was when Chip/Kim used it on Colin/Christie and it just happened to be a non-elim.

We really can't bank on having a "pattern" here because it is too new to compare the seasons.



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40. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
LAST EDITED ON 04-29-05 AT 04:26 PM (EST)

Stansted!!! Interesting....any pix to confirm this spoiler?

Assuming a Stansted arrival, they will most likely take the Stansted Express from the airport to the Tottenham Hale Tube station on the Victoria Line. In order to get to Abbey Road / Baker Street they could transfer to the Circle Line (as seen in the CBS previews). Hmm...quite a bit of work just to get the lead.

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45. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
And there is more than one flight from Koln to London(Stansted, Gatwick, Heathrow). So they can still miss the first flight out of Koln and still catch a later flight that gets to London before the other teams.
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53. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
our friend puddin' has matched the carpet at Stansted with the carpet on which Rob and Amber are walking. Thus they have arrived in Stansted not Heathrow or Gatwick. Not too many flights from Cologne to Stansted, but it looks like they have made the Germanwings connecting flight and are arriving in London at 7:25AM in time to catch the 8:00 or 8:15 express to Liverpool Station. Here they can catch the Yellow Circle line to Baker Street and either walk to Abbey Road, 8NW, or change to Jubalee Line and ride one stop to St. James Wood. If all goes according to plan, Rob and Amber should be at the first clue box at the Abbey Road corner about three hours ahead of the other teams.
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54. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
Excellent! Rob and Amber are going to win!!!!

The picture of Amber in the confessional is not a "glum" expression, it's confidence!!!

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55. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"
Now known as the carpet picture , lol


Stansted airport

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56. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"

LOL How easy was that! All you have to do is to Google the phrase "Stansted Airport carpet" and the first result to pop up is this picture. LOL


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48. "RE: Abbey Road WebCam"

hee hee. This webcam is totally addictive. Can't stop watching traffic on a British street. Guess this is what happens to TAR fanatics while waiting for the next episode Damn you tarjunkie999. (just kidding, I love anything to do with TAR).


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38. "Bus pictures..."
Looking at all the bus pictures it seem like M/G and U/J are doing it at dusk while R/A, and R/K seem to doing it at dawn? I'm looking at all the lights on in 16 and 22 vs. 7 and 17. Then M/G and U/J used their two hour jump from the planes last week to get to London the night befoe R/A and R/K. Rob's connection gamble does not pay off since he is racing Kelly in the bus.

Or some how R/A and R/K get a jump somewhere and they are in the lead again.


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46. "RE: Bus pictures..."
I don't know, I don't see much of a difference in the lighting. It's really difficult to see a difference from dusk to dawn, especially with the London fog.

In the first bus pic #7, we only see busses going at the same time and can't see any people. There is a street light lit in the right side of the pic in the trees. At least 2 of the busses are being driven at the same time (the 3rd one in the background, it may be parked or it could be running as well).

This task looks like there will be bunching.

The people are shown all mixed up, it goes from Rob to Kelly, then back to Rob & Amber, then Meredith & Gretchen, then Ron & Kelly, and finally Joyce & Uchenna.



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49. "RE: Bus pictures..."
From the map the dome is to the north so they are driving west to east so looking at the photo's of Rob and Kelly vs. J and M there is a shadow in Rob and Kelly's photo straight in, i.e. from the east thus dawn, while J and M have no shadow but the lights are on so i.e. dusk.


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41. "Boat Numbers?"
How come when U is pushing M/G's boat it's No. 6 but all the other photos are of boat No. 24? Did something happen to their boat when they were moving it on their own?


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42. "The boats!"
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LAST EDITED ON 04-29-05 AT 05:09 PM (EST)

The teams are taking the boats from near the water and stacking them by some benches.


#1 shows a completed stack of 4 boats.

#2 & 3 shows Uchenna helping M/G with boat 6. ETA: In #2, there is one of those rolling carts sitting in front of that green felt looking stuff - look to the right of Uchenna's shoulder! It is a cart that hasn't been used yet, I bet.

#4, 5 & 6 show M/G putting a boat 24 onto a second stack, this is their 3rd boat because 6 (behind Gretchen) is already on the 2nd stack of boats.

NOTICE! There are no other completed stacks of 4 boats in the pictures. The first stack is most likely U/J's.

It's entirely possible that these 2 teams get to this task first.

ETAA: This could be the detour. These 2 teams do the boats and Romber goes to the Sherlock Homes museum as the other task. Ron/Kelly are not shown doing either of these things. I don't know though, the two different tasks are usually related somehow.



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43. "RE: The boats!"
Um,

In vidcap #6, I already see two boat stacks. And M/G making a third one.

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44. "RE: The boats!"
LAST EDITED ON 04-29-05 AT 05:26 PM (EST)

That is the stack that M/G are working on (it has boat 6 on it). Notice that stack has only 2 boats. Boat 24 is the third boat that they are adding to the stack.

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47. "Das Boot!"

"How come when U is pushing M/G's boat it's No. 6 but all the other photos are of boat No. 24?"

I believe if you read the blurb about this episode on the CBS site, it says something about Uchenna not wanting the old folks to break their backs on the boats, so he breaks down later and helps them. I'm afraid the "minutia" of "das boot" numbering escapes me at this time. I guess I'm a "big picture" person.


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50. "RE: Das Boot!"
Ok..makes sense...move and stack 4 boats J/U done and help M/G.


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51. "Time of day"
It looks significantly darker when M/G are at the bus roadblock than the other teams. Does that mean they're behind? I hope not...
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108. "RE: Time of day"
It could be that Gretchen and Meredith along with Uchenna and Joyce get to the road block earlier, It could also be late at night when they do the road block while the othere two teams are behind. Giving them a almost 24 hour lead.
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52. "RE: The boats!"
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>ETAA: This could be the detour.
>These 2 teams do the
>boats and Romber goes to
>the Sherlock Homes museum as
>the other task. Ron/Kelly are
>not shown doing either of
>these things. I don't know
>though, the two different tasks
>are usually related somehow.


Sleuth or Stack?


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57. "RE: The boats!"
haha sleuth or stack?? how cute. Thats possible though.

The teams have a choice to do either I suppose. Since we can assume they would be there during the day.

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58. "Some NEW observations"
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Had a chance to see the ep 11 promo in action and have observed the following (you can catch a lot more when the scenes are in motion rather than just still vidcaps (as good as they are.)"

Pix 23 - Rob is standing by the bus, and the bus is BACKING UP. Is it being driven by another racer or is an official backing it up so Rob can try again?

Between Pix 30 and 31 - There is a missing pix of Rob and Amber running on the street, Amber is holding a Blue Route Info envelope. To their right (screen left) there is a particular stone fence with stubby square posts and a park behind. Now compare this with:

Pix 44 - Sign saying ABBEY ROAD, 8NW, The City of Westminster. The sign is on the same wall that we see Rob and Amber running by. Therefore, Rob and Amber have reached the first clue box at Abbey Road.

Pix 45 - Pair running by same park, and across zebra crossing (used in the cover of the Beatles' Album) BUT although one person who looks female has a red jacket on with white armpits, she is wearing blue jeans. The person running with her has a midlength brown suede jacket on and blue jeans. None of the team racers is wearing blue jeans or has a midlength brown suede jacket. (Joyce has a red jacket but she has no hair!, which the person in pix 45 has! Amber has a red and white jacket but is wearing dark blue sweats with white stripes. Neither Kelly nor Gretchen has a red jacket) Conclusion: this is setup by production people to introduce scene which is so often the case. Shot has no meaning except to establish location so disregard.

Pix 29 - Upon further review, this is not a shot of Rob and Amber either entering a subway car or a airplane. Rather it is a shot of them at some kind of ticket counter. Amber is holding a ticket stub (boarding pass part of a ticket??) which Rob snatches out of her hand as she turns back to the counter. Behind the counter are two people with blue uniform smocks on, one is shuffling through a stack of papers which she holds in her hand. Must have something to do perhaps in Cologne about getting on a connecting flight or in Istanbul when they are booking space. There is a Red and Yellow stripe to Rob's right which are the colors of Germanwings Airlines.

Pix 42 - This may be high angle shot from the London Eye. Camera seems to zoom in on a red, double-decker bus standing on a corner. Maybe there is a TAR marking on it (can't see shot too well) but this could be what they are looking for from the London Eye (find a distinctive London landmark with our flag, etc. This is typical when a task is being introduced by Phil) The location seems to be behind the wheel, not across the Themes river where they are looking. Could be parked along the Bankside. Here they may find clue telling them to go to the Millenium Dome and find the next clue. The Roadblock Bus Driver's test.

Pix 51 and 55. Behind Meredith and Gretchen are Uchenna and Joyce standing on the underground station platform. They all seem to be looking to their right as a train leaves. So at least we know that M/G and U/J arrived together. Did they just miss the train in Heathrow and know that they will have another delay getting into the city? Joyce is reading some kind of instructions.

So it looks like we have on this rainy Saturday morning the following:

Rob and Amber pulling a chancey move to get ahead of the others by taking an early flight on Germanwings through Cologne to London.

Rob and Amber make it to the Abbey Road 8NW location to find the first clue.

Detour: Go to Baker Street Sherlock Holmes Museum and SLEUTH for clues to solve a mystery (of where to go next?)Rob and Amber become Sherlock Holmes for the task.

OR, go to the Serpentine and STACK. Move four rental rowboats up from the Serpentine and stack them along a path in Hyde Park. Uchenna and Joyce and Meredith and Gretchen are the stackers.

Where oh where have Ron and Kelly gone? But they must have done one of these tasks to get to the London Eye.

Clue perhaps tells them to go to the London Eye to spot their next clue.Up on the Eye, Gretchen and Meredith; Uchenna and Joyce; and Ron and Kelly all have seperate, private gondolas to ride up and around (est. time 30 minutes the producers must have reserved space or are using it at a time when it is normally closed as was the case with the water slide in Dubai) and must spot a red, London double-decker bus with the TAR flag to get the next clue.

Where oh where are Rob and Amber? But they must have been to the London Eye to get the next clue.

Clue sends them to the vacinity of the MILLENIUM DOME to do the ROADBLOCK. Here they first find the YIELD. Rob and Amber are in the lead and they chose to Yield, Uchenna and Joyce.

Doing the Roadblock is difficult: driving and backing huge London double-decker buses along the same course used to test professional London bus drivers. Rob, Kelly, Joyce, and Meredith all are having trouble.

Question does Rob quit or is this just him waiting to try, try again to back the bus without hitting one of those pesky, little red and white cones.

Then off the the pit stop and the Eighth and Final elimination.
Who goes home disappointed tonight? What could be more appropriate at this time in the race but to go to the Tower (which is across the Themes from the Millenium Dome) a place well known in British History as a place for Executions!

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59. "RE: Some NEW observations"
You are so good at putting all of the little clues together!

Something I've been thinking about alot is the yield. We know it will be used in this leg, but I'm not so sure of

1. Romber using it and 2. U/J being the victims of it.

This is what I've been tossing around in my head (assuming this is an elimination):


  • We know that U/J & R/K were seen in Puerto Rico, so they are in the final leg.

  • We haven't yet figured out who the 3rd team is, highly likely it is Romber.

  • If Romber make the connecting flight and arrive 2 to 3 hours ahead of everyone else, why would they use the yield? It just doesn't make sense because they will feel they don't need to.

  • The other teams will not be able to yield Romber if this is true.

  • U/J will not yield M/G, why would they? They are seen helping them and know they are much slower.

  • Bunching will occur at some point, perhaps at the busses. This could be the task where the yield appears near.

  • Last time there was a yield, Rob suggested to R/K not using it. R/K probably will think more strategically this time (on their own without Rob's suggestions). They have probably been thinking about that yield ever since.

  • I think Ron & Kelly will use the yield on Meredith & Gretchen (and proclaim, "the devil made me do it") so they won't come in last again and M/G will be Philiminated.


If we assume an non-elimination (less likely scenario, IMO because of the finale press release):

  • U/J will be yielded and lose all of their belongings.


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60. "RE: Some NEW observations"

Yahoo! TV description of 2 hour May 10th episode of TAR7 (no title given)

"The final three teams race to the finish line."

Cool!


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87. "Of course..."
If Romber do not make that connection, they risk falling behind or not getting a lead on the other teams.

If any team gets on front of them, I don't think they would hesitate to yield them.

Perhaps Romber is the team eliminated. It's either M/G or Romber.



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61. "RE: Some NEW observations"
LAST EDITED ON 04-30-05 AT 03:38 PM (EST)

Some additional vidcaps taken during CBS golf coverage today, not previously posted on this thread.

Note: Rob wearing red/while jacket, not shown in any other vidcaps for this episode. Appear to be running by some sort of park setting.

Could be Joyce(?) jumping out after finishing her roadblock

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62. "RE: Some NEW observations"
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TJ: that is the shot I listed as being between pix 30 and 31; it shows Rob and Amber running along low wall with square posts that is identical to the one in pix 44 with the ABBEY ROAD NW8 sign. Therefore, it shows Rob and Amber at the Abbey Road spot to find first clue giving directions to Detour tasks I believe. They choose SLEUTH and not the more physical STACK task.

Believe that may be Kelly jumping out of bus. Joyce is wearing a much tighter head clutching knit cap and also there is shot of her in bus with red jacket on.I will have to go back and check on the pants though.

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63. "RE: Some NEW observations"
LAST EDITED ON 04-30-05 AT 06:17 PM (EST)

They may in fact be near Abbey Road / Baker St., but it still doesn't explain why Rob is seen at the airport in his blue/gray light jacket, then in his red/white jacket (over the grey/blue jacket), then back to the greay/blue jacket doing the sleuthing. The red/white jacket is never seen again. Curious, don't you think?

ETA: just caught a better vidcap of the wall you mentioned.

Think the walls match?

ETA: Romber may be running down Grove End Road from St John's Wood (Tube) Station (blue arrow). The Abbey Road NW8 (graffiti) sign may be at the curve in the wall (red "X").

This view (looking south) from the Abbey Road Studio WebCam may be from the spot on map designated by green "X".

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65. "Jackets"
It's simple, he takes his jacket off, puts it back on later, then takes it back off again.

The blue/gray is just a button down shirt he wears over his red t-shirt. He's dressed in layers.

Rob is wearing his red jacket in the above pic. Underneath it you can see the blue/gray button down shirt.



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66. "RE: Jackets"
Good work TJ, that pretty much nails down at least one part of EP11. That Abbey Road location sure matches the webcam pix. They just have to find a clue box somewhere near the zebra crossing. Now question is this the first place they have to go to, or do they have to go to the London Eye first? London Eye normally opens at 9:30AM, but producers have probably arranged for it to be open just for TAR earlier, say around 8AM. But that would mean that the other three teams also got to London before the regularly scheduled flights at 10:15 or 10:30. But since Joyce is talking about the Beatles' album in the Istanbul taxi, I feel that the first place they have to get to is the Abbey Road location.
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67. "RE: Jackets"
After India and Turkey, they arrive in England in December "Brrrr" (relative to where they were) put on heavy jackets, then while running around, the jackets are too hot, so they take them off.
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69. "RE: Jackets"
I like this theory. And if we extrapolate it one step further, ergo, "quid pro quo", since Amber never takes off her red jacket, she never works up a sweat, thus proving that "she is dead weight". Case closed. Chalk up another one for the "reality show justice league".


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72. "RE: Jackets"
LOL! Yep, no sweat & dead weight! FYI: with Rob doing the bus roadblock, he will have done 6 and the lazy-azz-Ambuh will have to start pulling her weight!

Another thing... that look on her face in the vidcaps is not disappointment, it's just her actually trying to use her brain and make a decision!



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68. "RE: Some NEW observations"
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That's cool, tarjunkie999.
Not to beat a dead horse, but here's a birds' eye view of the famous Abbey Road zebra crossing.



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70. "I live in London...My thoughts..."
Thought id start my post the same way i did my hoax thread...!
I was right M/G did make it to london!!! I had a feeling they would (hence my hoax)
Anyway i just wanted to clarify a few points

All London airports have the same carpets...as they are all run by the BAA, and all look incredibly alike - so dont be all conclusive about which airport they arrive at BECAUSE OF THE CARPET COLOUR.

London City airport is right in the heart of London - and right by the Thames - this would give any teams a huge advantage if they could get there - however im not so sure they do international flights - never used it myself.

There are literally hundreds of possibilites from Turkey - London. Flights from Gatwick/Heathrow/Stanstead/Luton fly all over Europe and so a connection could be made anywhere - however Gatwick is along way away from Central London as is Stanstead - Heathrow is the closest and is a 30 minute tube to central london - even quicker with the heathrow express. Luton is the farthest of them all - i wouldnt expect them to go to Luton.

The London Eye is full of American Tourists with cameras - Im shocked that they chose to have a task here - surely one of them could have had the decency to take a picture for us - how popular is the show in the States - would alot of Americans recognise the flags etc?

Another thing - someone mentioned bunching on the London Eye - This wouldnt occur - as the wheel takes half an hour - but loads every two minutes or so no bunching could occur.

Also - i feel that U/J and M/G are either:
1 - are in first/second place - why would U/J help M/G if they knew they were battling for 3rd place - they arent stupid
OR
2 - Think they had a better flight than R/K and R/A and feel they are still in first but arent (hence U/J losing backpacks in raceygirls pic)
OR
3 - R/K come in last and they are the victims of a mugging - as Rons raceygirl pic has a much smaller backpack (However this is much less likely as they would have had no money to start the next leg - how likely are they to waste any money they can beg for on a backpack?)

So many possibilities - hope to hear anyone elses comments...

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71. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
>3 - R/K come in last
>and they are the victims
>of a mugging - as
>Rons raceygirl pic has a
>much smaller backpack (However this
>is much less likely as
>they would have had no
>money to start the next
>leg - how likely are
>they to waste any money
>they can beg for on
>a backpack?)

What an idiot - i realise that R/K have already been mugged - not as if it was too long ago to remember!

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73. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
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*snort*

Don't worry, it happens to the best of us! Too many details to remember every one.

... about the London eye, if it loads every 2 minutes and there were all 4 teams on it at the same time, wouldn't you consider that bunching? I would.

ETA: yeah, it's amazing nobody spotted them there.


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74. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
QUOTE : "... about the London eye, if it loads every 2 minutes and there were all 4 teams on it at the same time, wouldn't you consider that bunching? I would."

No, because it takes 30 minutes to go round once they get on, so say for example -
U/J get on at 9:50 - they would leave it at 10:20
M/G get on at 10:00 - They would get off at 10:30

There is no time lost - they would all leave the capsules (as thats what they are called) at 30 minutes after they get on)

They would all be on different parts of it.

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75. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
How many people can fit in a capsule? Could more than one team go in a capsule and share or is it just for 2 people?

Does it load like a ferris wheel does?

What if a team enters at 9:50, another at 9:52 & a third at 9:54? That would be bunching to me, two minutes is not a substantial lead, IMO.


Anyway, I'm not really saying there is bunching at the London Eye, you've just got me all curious now! I think the bunching is more likely to occur at the double-decker bus task.



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76. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
"What if a team enters at 9:50, another at 9:52 & a third at 9:54? That would be bunching to me, two minutes is not a substantial lead, IMO."

I agree - but its not bunching if they are arriving that close together - i am saying if one team arrives 10 minutes before the other - they dont have to wait to get on and the lead will remain. If they arrive at the same time however - then more than 1 team can get in the same capsule - as they can fit upto i think 16 pople -however as you may gather the wheel wont stop when its open - so it doesnt wait for 16 people to gwt on before it sets off.

Yes it loads like a ferris wheel.

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77. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
Cool! Thanks for the info!

I agree, no team will be able to jump ahead of another team at the London Eye.

I can't wait to see it in action on the show this week! It'll be all the more interesting now that I know how it works!


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78. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
LAST EDITED ON 05-01-05 AT 03:35 PM (EST)

"It is hard to say how far they can see from the top of the Eye which is located on the Themes at Bankside. I don't know if Big Ben or Westminster Brige (where the Town Cryer is) can be seen from the Eye."

In reply to this person...
The london eye can see EVERYTHING within around 8 or 9 miles - depending on how clear the day is,

A SHOT FROM INSIDE THE LONDON EYE

go to the London Eye site for more info : www.londoneye.com

I would strongly recommend if you come to london to go on the london eye - it is truly a great experience (Not for those afraid of heights! or those who have bladder problems !

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79. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
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Those are some great pics! It's beautiful!

I was just thinking, last season the teams had to go to some lookout spot to find the flag which directed them to the location of their next pitstop. I wonder if this will be similar.


You know, admanmcd, after the episode airs you will have to come around and tell us all about the sights that we will have seen during the episode!

It'll be great to have someone who knows the city telling us what we've seen. Does the show air in London on roughly the same schedule as it does here in the states? ...or are you behind schedule like Australia is?



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81. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
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TAR1 aired in the UK on the most popular cable channel Sky One - after 6 episodes it was scrapped and was rescheduled to 3:05am on a Saturday morning ....i stayed up to watch it every time! and it has never graced british screens since. British viewers to be honest dislike american reality shows. I ve watched series 4, 5, 6 and now seven via downloading it off the internet...so i get to watch it hours after you guys accross the pond.

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82. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
Interesting, I didn't know that. Thankfully you get to see it via the internet. Still, even if you watch it several hours later, we talk about these episodes all week long, so whenever you've had a chance to watch you should come on over to chat!



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80. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
And also .... each capsule can hold 25 people (not 16) as i said previously.
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83. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
I love it when somebody who actually lives at the location fills us in with the details.
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89. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
(sniff) Geez, I miss London. I rode that London Eye too. We had a spectacular view, although it was partly cloudy. There were about 20 others in our pod.
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88. "RE: I live in London...My thoughts..."
>All London airports have the same
>carpets...as they are all run
>by the BAA, and all
>look incredibly alike - so
>dont be all conclusive about
>which airport they arrive at
>BECAUSE OF THE CARPET COLOUR.

I've never been to London admanmcd , the carpet and location was speculation. So maybe you can tell us more about the airport carpets and the glass doors . Are all airports designed with the blue dots on the glass doors that we see in the Stansted Airport ? Thank in advance .

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Looking at this cap of the train station

and Meredith and Gretchen on the same platform -

Shows me they are definately taking the Heathrow express train to paddington - here is the station in heathrow -

ALSO - R/A Train Cap :

This train is a District Line train as is shown here :

however - the trains are shared amongst the lines - i know that the Green Line (District) and the Yellow Line (Circle) share trains - and if you look at the map in the background of the R.A picture you can see the Green and Yellow blocks which show this.

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85. "RE: Trains, London Map and MORE (BIG POST)..."
I believe that the normal opening hour of the London Eye is 9:30AM, and each capsule carries up to 25 people. But in all the shots we have seen, one team is in a capsule all by their lonesomes! If the wheel were open for the general public this is almost an impossiblity. So I believe that the producers have made arrangements to open the wheel just for TAR say at 8:00 or 8:30AM. This is what they did with the WaterWorld slide in Dubai and at other sites which opened just for TAR early before the normal rush of tourists arrive.

Also, please note that Joyce and Uchenna are standing behind M/G on the platform, therefore they must have arrived together at Heathrow Airport.

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86. "RE: opening early..."
I dont feel that works - because say ROMBER arrive at 10 (hypathetically) - What do they do - do they wait for the eye to close? no instead they could have hired out capsules (the execs) this can be arranged - and as such when a team arrives they hop on to the next available capsule - this is very possible.
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90. "RE: opening early..."
I was just speculating on how they could get at least four empty capsules during normal operating hours, but your explanation makes sense and explains why each TAR team (and their production people) would be alone in the capsule. But what about those poor people waiting in line? But back once again by those pushy, ugly Americans!
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91. "RE: opening early..."
I wouldnt expect it mattered too much to the public - people hire out capsules all the time be it for weddings, aniversaries, dates, and people who just want 15 people together in a capsule - theyve wprobably been waiting long enough to get on .

I woild have insisted there was enough space for me in one of their capsules and then talked one of the teams into letting me be there guide for the day - imagine how fun that would be...

anyone like my first sig?

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93. "RE: opening early..."
anyone like my first sig?

You mean the sig that is wayyyy oversized and doesn't come close to fitting within board guidelines of max 60px high x 500px wide?


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96. "RE: opening early..."
god what is your problem...argumentative to say the least...dont reply to my info iv been providing (which i dont need to0 dont comment on anything good iv done and instead critisise? Go away mate...

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92. "My train map to help you guyz out..."
After my thread on this got locked (unfairly) i have reposted it here...

This allows you to see where everything is

London Map

Click above - i have listed where everything is and i have showed you where i live ! (as if any of you care)

Also here is a map of the south east of england - showing you where each of the 5 airports are:

as you can see heathrow is by far the closest international airport so even if ROMBER do get this early flight into another airport - (stanstead/gatwick) they are disadvantaged in the fact they are further away from London.

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94. "RE: My train map to help you guyz out..."
After my thread on this got locked (unfairly) i have reposted it here...

Did you actually take the time to read what the board administrator said to you when he locked your thread? He resized and loaded your map to a different page to HELP YOU, and guided you to the thread that the topic was already being discussed. He even complemented you on your good work for putting the map together.

Have you read the board guidelines yet? They are posted on the top of every thread page, maybe you should take a minute or two to do so.


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95. "RE: My train map to help you guyz out..."
I was only being sarcastic...perhaps its more british joking, i'll remember my audience next time...


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97. "Large picture problem... again"
LAST EDITED ON 05-02-05 AT 05:39 PM (EST)

I locked the other thread because the picture you posted was screwing up the page formatting. Please reduce the width of the last picture in your post.

Also the locking of the other thread was clearly explained and I take issue with your characterization that there was anything unfair about it.

Edited to Add:

I just saw you post stating that you were joking about your early statement about your thread being locked 'unfairly'. I no longer take issue with the statement.

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98. "Sig Pic Guidelines..."


This optional single line of text is either regular size, or size "1", but NO LARGER...
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99. "RE: Sig Pic Guidelines..."
um.. ok off topic argument.. so lets pull ourselves back..

Here's the summary from the CBS website.

Next on THE AMAZING RACE

Tuesday, May 3, 9PM ET/PT

Some take a chance on airline tickets without confirmed seats, while others get seats on a later flight. Will the gamble pay off?

Forced to beg for money, one Racer shares a stranger's lipstick.

One Team is Yielded. Will this affect their standing?

Teams have trouble with double-decker buses, which they have to drive.


Sentence 1 = Romber

Sentence 2 = Ronkel

Sentence 3 = Romber/Uchenna and Joyce?

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100. "RE: Sig Pic Guidelines..."
Some could mean more than one person.


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101. "Press Release"
It really does sound like more than one team .. hmmmm
Press Release thanks to RealityTV Magazine


May 03, 2005
Racers Gamble on Plane Tickets on The Amazing Race 7
"The Devil Made Me Do It" -- Some Teams reserve seats on flights while others take a risk with unconfirmed tickets for an earlier connection, on THE AMAZING RACE 7, Tuesday, May 3 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host of the series.


Nearing the last legs of the Race, some Teams take a chance by purchasing airline tickets without confirmed seats on a connection, while other Teams have seats on a direct flight which arrives later. Forced to beg for money and personal provisions, one Racer shares a stranger's tube of lipstick. One Team uses the Yield to hold back another Team. Will this delay affect their standing in the Race? The remaining participants in the race are Uchenna/Joyce, Ron/Kelly, Rob/Amber, and Meredith/Gretchen.

~puddin~

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102. "RE: Press Release"
point taken.. but why in the preview video in the CBS website only mentioned Romber taking the risky connection? Am I mistaken?

P.S Only Romber has been discussed at the earlier posts of taking the risky early connection flight. Presumably, if more than one team, it would be Ron and Kelly. Since the idea of Romber helping out the other alliance is absurd.

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105. "RE: Press Release"
It could be a penalty as well, and hes hoping for a non-elimination leg.
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104. "RE: Sig Pic Guidelines..."
Right, so if it is Rob/Amber AND Ron/Kelly that take the huge risk and then Rob/Amber also get yielded since they will be farther behind when the risk doesn't pay off, it only makes sense that the combination of the two events would lead to their demise. But then according to Rob, Meredith/Gretchen and Uchenna/Joyce all share one brain and would never hatch such a plan.


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106. "RE: Sig Pic Guidelines..."
I still am the only person alive who think that M/G will be the ones to yield R/A. Doesnt the devil comment sound just like her - almost all of the cute quotes have come from her so why not this one. They are the only team that might feel badly about doing it. I think that if R/A did it he would take full credit for great game playing - not pass it off on the devil. Who knows - I'm wrong a lot.

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107. "RE: Sig Pic Guidelines..."
I for one agree with you PMS, R/A get yielded by team Zombie in fullfillment of the editing and foreshadowing to date.


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109. "Yielded"
I hope so, Romber should of been gone already, I mean POWWOW couldn't yeild them while they were in India, so Zombie yields them now. I wouldn't of listen to Romber in the first place, they should of yielded them. Plus only your allowed to use the yield once. Which means Rob and Amber could of bee yielded twice. I remeber last season when Adam and Rebecca Yielded Freddy and Kendra instaed of Jonthan and Victoria. But yet Jonthan and Victoria still lost. And Freddy and Kendra just yielded Adam and Rebecca for revenge, which I thought was the stupidest Idea. If I was them game playing wise I would of yielded Kris and Jon. I like them, but for game wise, It would of been them two.

So in the first round Happy Boys should of yielded Romber. They wouldn't of lost. The second time Powwow should of yielded Romber. So romber got away twice from the yielded, I like romber, but there just a strong team and it would of worked that way.

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110. "tv guide"
tv guide online says teams must drive double decker busses AND solve a mystery....so we now know that these BOTH must be done.....any thoughts?
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111. "RE: Yielded"
The 'Happy Boys' couldn't have yielded Rob and Amber since R/A were ahead of them. If you'll remember, Rob and Amber were first to the bridge and the yield mat. L/A caught up, and passed them on the raft. That was the 1st yield in this race, and there are only a total of 3 in this race.
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112. "RE: Yielded"
During the second yield, POWWOW were in first place and they knew they were due for a Non-elim. It would have been stupid to use it then and it wouldn't have gotten rid of Romber anyway. You use a yield when you're close to the last position and you yield the last place team (mom and son should've yielded the roommates and made the finish less stressing). The exception would be the last yield of the race like tonight. Then you use it any way you like and using it against a strong team has proven useful (remember Chip and Kim). In this case I can also see a first place team use it to prevent someone else being saved by it.
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113. ""Boat Hoax" uncovered"
Leave it to CBS to throw us spoilers a curve ball. Just when we thought the blue row boats were from Hyde Park (which they were), the racers go to Battersea Park. As the picture below shows, the row boats in Battersea Park are NOT blue.

So why use the (numbered) blue boats? Because they look better on TV. Those sneaks took the Hyde Park boats to Battersea Park. Oooohhh...CBS is truly evil!

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