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"Variations on a theme?"
bookwomanblue 205 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 12:14 PM (EST)
 
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"Variations on a theme?" |
After listening to Kelly's story today, it struck me that almost all of the women in the house this year have got the same basic story. Parental abandonment, addiction of one form or another, abuse, etc etc......I feel as if I'm listening to the same basic story with different embellishments. One of the things that first attracted me to this show was the diversity of the housemates. Now it seems that they try their best to find women that have the same issues. IMO it makes the show much more boring. Anyone else think so?
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Baxtera 923 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 12:39 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
I'm just wondering if we'll ever get any guests that are there with problems that SO is really capable and qualified to deal with and not canidates for serious therapy which by definiton Rhonda and IV both admit they are not certified or educated to provide.When this last guest was introduced I started to question my own purpose in watching. The topics this show is taking on are becoming more Jerry Springer like every day and sadly the integrity with which these guests real issues are dealt with is only slightly higher than Springer's zoo pack. Rhonda locking people in cages, boxes, etc. hardly seems like it's much above Jerry these days. I was hoping the new guest would be someone who would bring some balance to the show by having a more achievable goal. Instead we have another canidate in need of real serious therapy handed over to two women neither who has the training or background to give her what she needs. I'm saddened by her story but I'm truly asking myself how I can watch these women obviously brought on because their stories are sensational and with the reality that neither IV or Rhonda are qualified to deal with their issues. Foolish me but I am starting to realize that SO must have hired some of Springer's cast offs to produce and write the show. I foolishly thought this was a show designed to help women with a specific achievable goal to change their lives do so. I didn't realize this was supposed to be a chance to teach pych students every where what not to do with their future patients.
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EMTBGRL 2514 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 05:28 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
or Sinae learning to become independant, which I could relate to as I watched my friend Scott going through the same thing. I can't imagine what going blind would be like...and although I didn't like Sinae all the time, her issues seemed to be something concrete that could be dealt with in the SOH and supported by other women, LC's and professionals TRAINED to help the blind become independant. I rooted for Sinae. Yeah! You got back to the SOH by bus! You did it! You did it! Concrete. She's in college now. Good for her. The new ones? What's to root for? Tupperware party successes and crappy art pictures? nothing of "substance." Seriously lacking in Season 3 imho
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MizJazmine 532 desperate attention whore postings
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02-11-06, 00:18 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
Baxtera...wow...I hear ya. SO is on my chopping block. I don't think I will be watching another season. For me it's just not healthy and I don't like the way I "feel" watching this show and my participation. It doesn't feel good. Like I've said before, I've always thought the concept was beautiful but the reality is so far from that. Too bad, IMO they could have had one powerful show. It's sad because I think women deserve better, and in watching then reflecting on it - I deserve better.
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toyota73 28 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 12:39 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
Yes, I agree. I haven't heard new Kelly's show yet as it hasn't aired here yet...but the themes do seem to be the same. They should put a lesbian on the show and mix it up a bit and watch the sparks fly and the back stabbing begin all over again! They're all too nice right now...
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crazygroupiegirl 46 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 12:58 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
I think the only story that has been different was Jessica's because her mom never chose to abandon her. She died in a plane crash by terrorists.
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JessicaRN 1112 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 01:37 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
Remember the first season of women. Their goals were measurable and attainable. For instance: Hannah wanted to become an auctioneer, Karen a costume designer, Brenda - a new career path after divorce, Rain - to get off welfare, Susan - to find her father, Kimberlyn - to get her driver's license. They were not always all successful, but it was easy to see how there was a definite plan that built towards achieving their goals. I'm not sure how anyone can measure when a person has achieved their goal of "being authentic", "fully connecting", or "being a woman of honor." How do you know when you are "done"?
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snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 02:33 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
I agree...the show has moved far away from women working towards concrete ACHIEVABLE goals that LC's are equipped to handle. Now it's trying to be psychotherapy. It makes me miss the days of goals such as "Get off of welfare", "Learn to drive", "Find a job", "Find my father", etc.I don't know if the change is due to the death of the producer or if it has to do with Iyanla replacing Rana, with a more "mystical" sense of life coaching, or some combination of the two. I am also sick of how they keep adding "goals" for the women along the way. By the time a woman is ready to get pushed out of the SO House, her typical "goal list" looks like this: "I need to: ---lose weight ---diagnose & treat all my medical conditions ---find a job/career change/start a business ---find a husband/boyfriend (or alternately, if she already has one, to get rid of him) ---find my Daddy ---have a "fierce conversation" with my mother ---handle my finances ---learn to flirt ---reconnect with my sister ---learn how to have friends ---get rid of all addictions ---make plans to relocate ---learn to love myself ---be happy la la la Isn't any one of these goals enough to handle over a couple of months' time?? There are way too many goals going on at once now, and these women are graduating without making any significant progress.
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JessicaRN 1112 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 03:17 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
That is a really good point Snowflake that I hadn't quite put together before. Jill, for instance, came in to loose weight and is now on Iyanla's favorite mission of finding a long-lost father. I understand that issues are often related, but it's beginning to seem like one day, out of the blue, it is announced that they will graduate and the only thing that has happened after all of these months is that more issues are now opened and unresolved then when they arrived.
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OklaBlue 1244 desperate attention whore postings
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02-10-06, 06:12 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
A new series: "SURVIVOR - Starting Over House"
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snowflake2 1499 desperate attention whore postings
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02-12-06, 11:00 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
LAST EDITED ON 02-12-06 AT 11:53 AM (EST)OklaBlue wrote: <<Not sure when they start up, probably August. But the show viewing season is Oct-May.>>
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The new season started very early in September. (Sept. 9th, I think.) They would have to start up way before August, since they like to be about three months ahead of viewing. And considering that the show started in the beginning of September, it's ridiculous IMO that there's STILL an original HG in the house, and that Lisa only left last week. They've let some of the original women stay WAY too long. Then by the end of the season, they'll probably be rushing women out of there, like last year. 
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MLP4evr 8 desperate attention whore postings
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02-11-06, 00:29 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
Yep, my felings exactly. I only started watching last season, so I don't really know what it was like, but it seems like the show, as much as I truly love it, is tackling increasingly nebulous, widespread, general life issues. It seems like all I hear on the show is "trust yourself", "be honest", "fight for your life", etc. over and over and over again, no matter what the situation. Maybe the producers would benefit from restructuring the way the women start out in the house: each woman could come in with ONE narrow, specific task or challenge that is standing in between her and her future. If deeper life issues present themselves in relation to acheiving this task/challenge, then those issues become their steps. Also, does anyone else feel like many (or perhaps all) of the women on the show are coming from relatively bourgois, middle class lifestyles? I suppose Christina was an exception, and maybe Jill.
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SOFANinGA 13 desperate attention whore postings
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02-12-06, 11:22 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Variations on a theme?" |
I feel like the Woman on the show are from the bourgeois middle class lifestyles. But I think that's when most (not all)lower to middle age woman say they are looking within themselves. Whether it be the kids are out of the house, work isn't where they had hoped to be at this stage of the game, or some woman have stayed in unfulfilling relationships. I think most woman have asked themselves the question, "is that all their is" once or twice in their lives..... it takes guts not to be ambivilant in any situation.
But in the earlier SO house the casting were more different in that the woman were not only representing different age groups, they had very different hangable goals. I liked the earlier years too..........maybe it is time the show ran it's course?
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Yes it seems the house has taken an unethical turn. These HG's are dealing with very serious problems that will need much more than a couple months of crackerjack counceling. The SOH was more respectable when they tackled issues that they could handle. Now that they're dealing with such fragile women we have even higher expectations of them..and they're failing miserably. AND..at the same time they've increased their dramatics significantly..and the whole supposed purpose of the house seems lost in the rubble.
