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"Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread"
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tannl 93 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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02-28-05, 09:18 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
She has chemistry with Jerry but there is no substance to it.
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ilovezoe 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 09:20 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
It's been reported on abc.com that she indeed picks Jerry. A taping of the show, or her personal abc.com diary, got leaked out early and she described how sad she was about having to walk jp out and watch him walk away! I kept trying to read forum posts about this and/or try and find the supposed "leak" I never could find it, however, the forums did post that abc themselves keep deleting any spoiler posts about it. I'll keep looking and let you guys know!
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ilovezoe 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:08 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
JP LOST!!!!!!! OH well, Jen and Jerry can go off and have spoiled, self centered babies for all I care. At least JP still has a chance to snag up a decent, honest woman! UGH! Jen makes me sick!
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kathliam 3669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-28-05, 10:14 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Actually, we don't know for certain she chose Jerry. She hasn't given him her answer yet.
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ilovezoe 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:18 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Why not get the woman you love a big diamond? If you've got it, you might as well spend it. I say if you can provide for your wife, why not do it? I happen to have a white picket fence, and it's very nice. I also have a big diamond! (and I love it!)
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kathliam 3669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-28-05, 10:37 PM (EST)
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16. "Jerry's Proposal" |
Jen says she doesn't have any doubts, except she wants to think about it for a couple of months.If I was Jerry I'd show her to the curb. And she turns him down. They should never, never, never again have a former contestant be on the show.
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kathliam 3669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-28-05, 10:39 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
If I saw her on the street I would make a point to cross against traffic and slap her into next month.
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ilovezoe 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:41 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
I agree what a skank!!! I guess all those rumors were true about her and Billy Dec!!!!!
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redheaded_sweetheart 276 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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03-01-05, 00:12 AM (EST)
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35. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
I have to disagree. I don't think he was shocked at all. I think he was playing to the camera and the live audience. He is and always will be a DAW. As for Jen, who knows. I'm just glad now that she didn't pick JP!
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Mimi_1919 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:45 PM (EST)
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22. "Sheftt gives the Shaft" |
Can't believe her decision . . . dumps John Paul for the Player. Then dumps the Player. Of course, if Andrew Firestone was not good enough for her - no man will ever be. I can't see how any person can date 25 men and pick one based on the little time they spend together - unless they have other 'dates' that we don't see on TV? She will wake up and realize she has missed several great men - Andrew and John Paul.
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kristian52 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:50 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Sheftt gives the Shaft" |
that woman in the audience, REALLY HIT the nail on the head, w/her question to jenn...is ANY man good enough for her?!?
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Mimi_1919 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:51 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Sheftt gives the Shaft" |
yep - just heard her comment and I feel the same . . . I would ask the same question of her.
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kristian52 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:53 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Sheftt gives the Shaft" |
me too!!! what a total shock! i can't believe..that after ALL she put these men through! and then..keeps on..acting...i thought she was the greatest when she was on the bachelor!! and was ecstatic when andrew picked her..she is a princess, i thought...but, now, after this?????????????? i somehow doubt it...especially after seeing her mansion......
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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02-28-05, 10:53 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Well, we're going to hear whether or not those rumours are true --- after the break!
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kristian52 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:55 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
yuppers...BUT, all through the show..theyve been talking about rumors and what shes bee nthrough...i hadnt' heard of any rumors during the season
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imlay imagery 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 10:58 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
really disappointing finale - not so much over the outcome, but because there was no real answer given as to why she didn't accept either of the proposals.
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sitoo2 3 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-01-05, 02:08 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
WHAT A FARCE! JEN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT SHE WANTS REALLY - I PERSONALLY THINK SHE IS VERY INSECURE WITH HERSELF - WHO NEEDS TO GET HER FRIENDS TO HELP HER CHOOSE AND SPY ON THESE GUYS - GET REAL!!! SHE LOVES PUBLICITY - A WANNA BEE - SHE IS SO SELF CENTERED AND IS QUITE AN ACTRESS - SHE CAN BREAK HEARTS - PRETEND--- WHAT THE HELL DOES SHE WANT - PERSONALLY - I THINK SHE WANTS TO BE AN ACTRESS - AND GUESS WHAT - MAYBE THAT'S WHAT SHE NEEDS - BECAUSE....... SHE PRETENDS TO WANT TO FIND IT ALL - WELL HONEY - DON'T WE ALL? SHE IS THE PLAYER - THESE GUYS WENT ALL OUT FOR HER - KIND OF COLD HEARTED, I THINK - SO IN ALL - IT IS TOO BAD FOR HER SAKE, I THINK SHE IS NIOT A HAPPY CMPER - HER FAME WILL FADE AND SO WHEN SHE CHOOSES "HER MAN" GOOD LUCK TO HER 0- SHE HAS TARNISHED HER IMAGE FOR SURE - MHO
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Mimi_1919 7 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 11:03 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Should have asked her if she was 'screwing' her boss . . . . not dating him.
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kathliam 3669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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02-28-05, 10:59 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Bear with me while I vent.She never shut her mouth long enough to listen to what Jerry was saying. Chris asked about him planning to move to Chicago, and Jerry starts talking about how the transfer was already in the works, Willard is offering him somewhere to stay, the whole bit. And she's saying 'no we never talked about that'. Well, obviously JERRY thought about it. He proposed to you, for crying out loud, you talked and met while the show was airing, he is uprooting his entire life to be with you. And you turn to him and say 'I thought we were friends'. Give me a break. That's so not what a guy (or girl) wants to hear right after you break up with them, especially if they proposed. You keep saying you've been through this, then why in heaven's name do you not have more empathy? The one woman in the audience asked why Jerry didn't seem angry or upset. I think he's in shock. He looks very uncomfortable up there. Jerry, however, is funny. Chris asks if Jen is dating Andrew again, and Jerry 'fesses up and says he's dating Andrew, sorry Fabrice. This is after he proposed to Willard since Willard was willing to give him a home in Chicago. The Bachelorette has officially 'jumped the shark', through no fault of the producers. Boy, is there going to be a lot of pressure on Charlie O'Connell to actually marry one of those women.
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kristian52 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 11:05 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Easy to bear w/you while u vent! and you worded it very well.. about exactly how i felt about the whole show and how it went! and how jenn was AND acted!! me me me...she is i think~~thank you! for ur words!
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tanda 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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02-28-05, 11:17 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
What a great way to put it. I was sitting here in shock!!! I mean she totally contradicted everything that she said to him when she told him he was the one she had picked. She told him that she had no doubts. Honestly I think she set it up. She didnt want to be with either one of them and Jerry didnt want to be with her. So they concocked this plan to "just be friends" this puts a whole new light on this show for me. I will be hard pressed to ever watch this show again.
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N305AS 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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03-01-05, 00:30 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
For my money, the single worst thing about Jenn tonight was how she attempted to get Jerry to go agree with her point of view."Well, I think we BOTH knew we're better as friends...we BOTH decided we're probably better off as friends..." etc. If I were Jerry, I wouldn't have been able to resist saying something to the effect of, "Um, pardon me....we BOTH wanted to just be friends? Did I hear you correctly? Perhaps I'm just spectacularly uninformed about my own feelings, but what part of my being here with a ring and PROPOSING confused you into believing I thought we were better off just as friends?
Congratulations, Jenn. You managed to self-implode on national TV, erasing all your good karma from "The Bachelor" and just made Jerry a household name.
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iwannabearealitystar 592 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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03-01-05, 01:18 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
She makes Trista seem introspective.
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kahanasunset 466 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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03-01-05, 11:22 AM (EST)
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46. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-01-05 AT 11:29 AM (EST)I applaud Jen Schefft for making the decision she did. ABC can't complain. It gave them some much-needed publicity for this so-over show. Jen realized months ago leading up to the finale that she, the guys and the whole thing were doomed. That's why she melted down. She wasn't into any of the guys. She freaked out because she'd gone through all the motions. She did the obvious and went for "Mr. Nice Guy" and "Mr. ooooo I Have Chemistry With You Guy". Understandably, she was stressed out because realized neither one of them was right for her. She wasn't right for them either. There was something so weird about Jerry. He has very little personality and resorted to sarcastic humor at the end which at least relieved a little bit of the tension. When are women going to realize that only about 10% of pretty boys have character and personality? (When their hormones stop flowing, that's when.) Chris whatever his name is just sat there looking bored and obligated to listen (esp. during John Paul's part). Get another host ABC ! That is, if you keep this stinker on.
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Dulcineia 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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03-01-05, 02:56 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
It's horrible of Jen to break up with Jerry on LIVE t.v. He did not deserve to be treated like that. I loved Chris Harrison's comments towards her. Could this girl be any more selfish and self-centered? Shame on you Jen! At this rate you will be 90 years old before you can pick a man for yourself.......
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-05, 11:04 AM (EST)
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44. "RE: Bachelor Finale - East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Why Why Why did they have to drag this finale out so long? It was absolutely the worst Bach finale. And they couldn't even put it to rest at the end of the 2 hours. JP and Jerry along with all the other Bachelors had to have been living under a rock in the middle of nowhere to have not known the gossip about her and her boss. I think it was the reason for the first time the star of the show did not show up live to the Men Tell All taping. She didn't dare... She left a little message to the guys so they couldn't ask her questions. And JP even asked her if she had gone on the show for the right reasons in the first place. Gossip is that she was already dating (sleeping with?) Billy Dec when she started this show. Imagine how all the guys felt when they heard that? Jerry had to know the gossip going around and realize he was going to be dumped. But contractually he had to show up with the ring. I noticed he looked at his watch several times during the live show. He just wanted to leave. And Chris was asked by the press several times about Jen and her boss and he always responded it wasn't true along with denying that he knew Charlie O'Connell is the next Bachelor. I thought it was pretty low of Chris to make Jerry sit there and watch while they played his song and showed a love movie of Jen and Jerry - knowing that it was fake. Chris knew Jen wasn't going to accept Jerry's proposal and yet he acted all surprised. This show was all about lying this time. Chris is lying that he didn't know. Jen was lying thru the entire show. Fabrice was lying about not being gay. Jen was lying about not dating her boss. If ABC had been smart they would have wound this one up in 1 hour instead of 3. Jen did succeed in one thing. She got more publicity and while she was once loved by the public. Now everyone has a completely different view of her. And it isn't nice.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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03-01-05, 12:56 PM (EST)
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47. "Wendell speaks..." |
Wendell called into a radio show in Milwaukee this morning. Nothing he said was a big shocker but it does confirm a few things.1 - He is super close with both Jerry and JP and apparently JP has been adament that he did not propose. Wendell said that he'd be giving JP a pretty hard time about that later on today when JP flies into Chicago and they meet up. 2 - Jerry and Jen have not talked in quite some time. 3 - Jerry knew what was coming last night. They had essentially already broken up. But Wendell said that Jerry was kind of hoping that maybe Jen would want to work at it and give it some time. 4 - Jerry called Wendell last night right before he went on to stage and was asking Wendell how he should act and what he should say. Wendell told him to just play it nice and do basically what he did. 5 - Jerry told Wendell that when he went into the final rose ceremony, he was not going to propose. But that he was pressured to do so right before he walked in. 6 - He said that if Jen was to come crawling back to JP (which he said she wouldn't do) that JP would never ever take her back.
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