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tvhead 230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-04-04, 11:21 AM (EST) "nanny 911" i think i saw the world's worst mother on nanny 911 and then she's trying to argue with the expert who came to undo her damage   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: nanny 911 Nikamo 11-04-04 1    RE: nanny 911 tvhead 11-05-04 3  RE: nanny 911 Nanook 11-04-04 2    Co-sleeping sablebunny 11-16-04 6        RE: Co-sleeping tvhead 11-18-04 7            RE: Co-sleeping sablebunny 11-19-04 10  i actually *like* this show cqvenus 11-13-04 4    RE: i actually *like* this show tvhead 11-15-04 5  Darn, I missed it! Swami 11-18-04 8    RE: Darn, I missed it! tvhead 11-19-04 9        RE: Darn, I missed it! MissMyth 11-23-04 11            I finally saw one! Swami 12-02-04 12                RE: I finally saw one! Spidey 12-02-04 13                    RE: I finally saw one! HistoryDetective 12-02-04 14  RE: nanny 911 love2smile 12-16-04 15    RE: nanny 911 PagongRatEater 12-16-04 16  Nanny 911 vs. Super Nanny ShyViolet 12-16-04 17  RE: nanny 911 Molaholic 12-27-04 18    RE: nanny 911 PagongRatEater 12-29-04 19        RE: nanny 911 realitychick 12-30-04 20        RE: nanny 911 Swami 12-31-04 22            RE: nanny 911 blueahh 01-01-05 23            RE: nanny 911 dramamama 01-18-05 26  RE: nanny 911 Draco Malfoy 12-31-04 21    RE: nanny 911 ginger 01-13-05 24        RE: nanny 911 FlamingCactusIT 01-16-05 25        RE: nanny 911 dramamama 01-18-05 27

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Nikamo 36 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 11-04-04, 03:53 PM (EST) 1. "RE: nanny 911" I really enjoyed the show. Maybe because I am pregnant but I thought it was quiet entertaining. You are right, that mom was clueless. She did not understand that kids need boundaries as well as "hugs". I have a girlfriend who is in the same situation with her kids, and she does not understand why her kids are so bad. She just wants to be there for them all the time and never use the word no. She has created a terrible situation for herself and her kids are out of control. I can't even talk to her on phone. That poor dad. He did not even get to do anything except get bossed around by his wife. I was really glad to see him start being a part of the family and his kids life. And what was up with her sleeping with her son for the last four years? I could not believe it. Anyway, I was sucked in and I am looking forward to the next episode.   Top

tvhead 230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-05-04, 11:27 AM (EST) 3. "RE: nanny 911" yes nikamo,so am i . how about when they showed her with the son at 1 a m still encouraging him. he was really angry because he had no structure.   Top

Nanook 189 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-04-04, 06:43 PM (EST) 2. "RE: nanny 911" That mom was getting on my nerves. It seemed she wasn't doing anything the nanny said. What's up with sleeping with her son every night since he was born? I've never heard of such a thing.   Top

sablebunny 156 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-16-04, 03:06 PM (EST) 6. "Co-sleeping" Didn't watch the show, but I was intrigued by the thread and felt compelled to share my own experiences with this very topic...mostly because it's not one I see discussed very often.. The concept of the "family bed" is not at all unusual. Co-sleeping fosters interdependence and a feeling of security which can really help small children transition through all the huge changes of their first few years. It's one part of what's called "attachment parenting" (other elements of which include nursing (for at least a year or two); gentle discipline (rather than spanking); and child-wearing (which is carrying a baby in a sling, etc. rather than always setting him in a stroller). Like anything else, this parenting paradigm can be taken to an extreme where rather than lovingly teaching a child boundaries, the parent ends up totally giving in to everything. I have well-meaning friends who coddled their children in the name of attachment parenting and are now reaping the rewards of backtalk and rampant narcisscism. Not a pretty picture. My own experience has been that, used correctly, attachment parenting leads to well-adjusted, interdependent children with minimal diciplinary issues. For any prospective parents out there, Dr. Sears is one of the big mainstream proponents of the atachment parenting model. So I guess my main point is that co-sleeping in and of itself is not a bad or evil thing. It is one aspect of one parenting style that has to work for the whole family if it's going to work at all.   Top

tvhead 230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-18-04, 11:18 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Co-sleeping" sable b.-- that sounds interesting,for sure. but this kid was manipulating the mother every step of the way. and he was still awake at 1 a. m.   Top

sablebunny 156 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-19-04, 08:24 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Co-sleeping" Yes. I gathered that from the other posts. I just wanted to say that the co-sleeping in and of itself is not an evil. Bad parenting? Is.   Top

cqvenus 9765 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-13-04, 09:45 AM (EST) 4. "i actually *like* this show" i approve of this show. i think every clueless moronic parent who thinks it's society's job to raise *their* kids (via censoring tv and radio and imposing other stupid rules on the rest of us) should be required to watch this show. common frickin' sense, people. you can't let your kids do whatever the hell they want! oooh! big shocker there! ~ cq at least the people actually *do* seem to make progress   Top

tvhead 230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-15-04, 11:29 AM (EST) 5. "RE: i actually *like* this show" i agree with you, though i have a hard time watching other people's kids act like brats, especially on t v .   Top

Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-18-04, 11:55 AM (EST) 8. "Darn, I missed it!" I meant to watch this show! Somebody remind me of when it's on? When I was a child my best friend was raised by a nanny (because her mother had passed away & dad could afford one). She was English and the best. nanny. ever! I swear that woman never made a mistake in her dealings with us kids. My friend had the best kid parties ever and that nanny could control a whole room full of squirrely kids flawlessly, without ever raising her voice! And we all had fun! I loved that woman.   Top

tvhead 230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 11-19-04, 11:03 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Darn, I missed it!" LAST EDITED ON 11-19-04 AT 11:04 AM (EST) after lost,at e s t you can catch nanny 911 on fox of course ! sorry it's 9:00 e s t   Top

MissMyth 352 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 11-23-04, 12:47 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Darn, I missed it!" I am loving this show! I think my favorite part is how every one of the parents is so excited that the nanny is coming "to straighten out those kids". And then the nanny patiently explains that the kids can only learn what the parents are modeling. Have you seen the one where mom and dad both were screaming at their kids and then moaning about how the kids didn't listen?   Top

Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-04, 09:09 AM (EST) 12. "I finally saw one!" I finally remembered to catch this show last night. The show was about an Italian-American family with 5 kids including one set of quads. And the dad was a screamer. It was very fun to watch the Nanny lay out a few basic rules and put up a behavior mod reinforcement chart. Dad was the hardest nut to crack because it took him a loooong time to see that he was a huge part of the problem. At the end of the show, the "Nanny" gave the family a second floor addition to their house. Is this a typical reward? Does the Nanny decide the reward or does the family have it negotiated in advance? Swami   Top

Spidey 6259 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-04, 01:52 PM (EST) 13. "RE: I finally saw one!" I am so stealing Nanny's trashbag idea. My kids have way too much crap as it is. I might just thow some of their more annoying toys on the floor myself, just so I can throw them away.   Top

HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-02-04, 05:39 PM (EST) 14. "RE: I finally saw one!" I *love* that style of parenting! a sig by syren Maybe I should throw some of DBF's less desirable stuff on the floor...   Top

love2smile 194 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 12-16-04, 12:36 PM (EST) 15. "RE: nanny 911" Did anybody watch the show last night? I wanted to climb through the TV and smack the mom in the beginning! Grrrrrrrrr....   Top

PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-16-04, 01:54 PM (EST) 16. "RE: nanny 911" I don't get it when parents don't understand that being a parent is SUPPOSED to be hard. You can't just give in to your children all the time and expect stuff to work out. Dad seemed to get it, but was afraid to step into mom's territory. And to think that Stella would have gone Donald Trump on Angela! hee hee.   Top

ShyViolet 8 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 12-16-04, 04:23 PM (EST) 17. "Nanny 911 vs. Super Nanny" Last night when I was watching Wife Swap, a commercial for a new ABC reality show called Super Nanny came on. It's the same premise as Nanny 911. Does anyone know if FOX has once again stole an idea from ABC and rushed to put it on the air, or is this ABC's revenge on FOX for stealing their wife swap idea?   Top

Molaholic 9015 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-27-04, 04:33 PM (EST) 18. "RE: nanny 911" It never ceases to amaze me how Nanny can come into a totally out-of-control family and in one short week turn things 180° around. Kids that were running amok, shouting parents, toys strewn all over the place -- bingo-bongo, polite children, serene parents, immaculate floors all in time for the final scene. How about a follow-up show once in a while, fellas? Go back to the house and see if things are still pristine, perfect Mary Poppins-land or if the inmates have once again taken over the asylum. TAR5 Casino Game "Foundation" Player sigpic a GeorgiaBelle creation MMIV   Top

PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-29-04, 10:56 AM (EST) 19. "RE: nanny 911" I'm with you. I think that there are some real changes, but the miracle's that are shown to us are a lot more about editing than they are about a total transformation in 7 days. Often there a little things that these parent's either don't see or are unwilling to do (take away pacifiers, get dad to pitch in , put rules/discipline in place) and these things can have an immediate impact. But anyone who is human knows that behavioral patterns don't change overnight. For cost and editing purposes this show is a week long, but in real reality it should be about a month that the Nanny stays - THEN you would see some real and lasting change.   Top

realitychick 200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 12-30-04, 04:22 PM (EST) 20. "RE: nanny 911" When that so called "mother" said she didn't want to tell her kids "no"? Time or Newsweek had a study about kids raised just like this. They are never told no nor given structure. When they get to college, they can't handle it. Working...they can't handle it or they're fired. I swear, this article had kids and their material possessions. The cars the kids drove were nicer than the parents! All without the little word..."no". Amazing!   Top

Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-31-04, 08:07 AM (EST) 22. "RE: nanny 911" I read somewhere (and I forget where--sorry) that someone had done follow-up visits on several of these families a couple of months after their Nanny Week. The article said the families were still feeling positive about the experience and thought that it had made a huge diference in their lives. I was quite surprised, but then it also makes sense in a way. So many people raise their kids in comparative social isolation. There is no extended family to clue these parents in when they take off on some weird tangent. The nanny can do that very efficiently it seems. And once the parents are clued in, well, it only makes sense to stick with a program that works. Missing from this show, however, are failures. Times when the Nanny just couldn't engineer the family dynamic change she sought. I really doubt a 100% success rate and wish they would show some failures!   Top

blueahh 54 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 01-01-05, 01:03 PM (EST) 23. "RE: nanny 911" They haven't taped any follow up episodes but did arrange for the Rock family and the Priore family (along with the nannys) to be on Montel. It was taped earlier in December and is supposed to air Jan 6.   Top

dramamama 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 01-18-05, 07:57 PM (EST) 26. "RE: nanny 911" So many >people raise their kids in >comparative social isolation. There >is no extended family to >clue these parents in when >they take off on some >weird tangent. The nanny >can do that very efficiently >it seems. And once >the parents are clued in, >well, it only makes sense >to stick with a program >that works. Wow: that's really a smart and compassionate observation: and spot on. I think we are seeing in this show the effects of parents who are increasingly raising their children in isolation or near-isolation (a pregnant friend of mine is approaching people with strollers on the streets of her urban neighborhood to ask them which daycare center they use: they look at her as if she's a child abductor--and then tell her). The fact we are a nation of migrant workers of a sort (does anyone live in their home town anymore?) is combined with our adoration of the expert. Even if our families were around, we don't so much follow family traditions or family advice any more; we have more faith in therapists, scholars, and tv shows and the expertise they pretend to have.   Top

Draco Malfoy 10525 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-31-04, 06:28 AM (EST) 21. "RE: nanny 911" This show is the greatest argument for birth control EVER. Some people should NOT reproduce.   Top

ginger 22512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-13-05, 06:16 PM (EST) 24. "RE: nanny 911" Watched most of an episode last night. The Nanny was very good at what she was doing, and correctly identified MOM as being the root of all family ills. While intriguing (and, of course, it's great to sit there and congratulate myself on being a MUCH better parent than the ones on the show), I worry that it will always come down to It's All Mom's Fault. Because last night, I kind of wondered, why isn't DAD to blame, as well? Sure, he's at work all day, but if Mom's making the kids miserable, he needs to participate, and help alter the behaviour, or he's passively guilty, too.   Top

FlamingCactusIT 452 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 01-16-05, 04:18 PM (EST) 25. "RE: nanny 911" A great show, and with the new Supernanny on ABC, I think that this Major Network show should have a shared Forum with Supernanny.   Top

dramamama 263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 01-18-05, 11:10 PM (EST) 27. "RE: nanny 911" I agree. But given the way the family is structured, it is always going to be the mom's fault for the mom does nearly *all* of the work of raising and caring for children. That never changes. We are going on four historic cycles of feminism and what never changes is women's responsibility for child care, and therefore women being blamed for the way children act. Truly until men take on more than the mommy's little helper role, they will never be responsible for how children turn out. It would be no more fair to blame them than to blame your eldest child or your house pet: well ok I'm being a *little* provocative here, but not as much as one might like to think   Top

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