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"TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
These frame grabs are from the preview shown at the end of Episode 4.
Ooh, Episode 5 is going to be a two hour humdinger, you betcha.
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Phil: On the next special two-hour Amazing Race ...

Ray and Deana take the high road,


1 2

3 4

Ray: You got it baby. Deana: Whoa... I can't.

5 6

Phil: And Gretchen takes a fall. Meredith: Oh God, Gretchen.

7 8

Phil: Uchenna and Joyce get emotional at an orphanage...

9 10

Joyce (wiping tears): The kids were soo sweet.

11 12

Uchenna: This has been the most special moment for us in the entire race.

13 14

Phil: And Brian and Greg have an accident.

15 16

17 18

A voice yells: BRIAN?!
Another voice driving by (sounds like Kelly): Oh my God Oh My God.

A closer look at the crash victims...

Enhanced version...

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Trying to determine who is on the ground in the final frame. We know that Greg is wearing a tan shirt and dark shorts. I think that's him bending down on the right side of the frame.

We see Brian driving in a dark blue short sleeve shirt and light plaid shorts. That seems to be him on the ground.

Of course, there are two other people there, a cameraman and a sound technician, most likely.

BUT there seems to be something strange about the crash footage. The camera is definitely in the front seat in frames 12 and 13. But in frames 14 through 17 the camera is most definitely in the back seat, and the driver is wearing solid color shorts and a white shirt. The left front passenger is wearing blue jeans and a white shirt. And what is with the bars across the driver's window in frame 16?

Did Brian change clothes? Did the cameraman move to the back seat?

Could this be a re-creation of the crash to enhance the footage?


Didn't I see Gretchen in a rest home community theater version of Carrie?

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 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps bobscure 03-23-05 1
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps TeamJoisey 03-23-05 2
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps bobscure 03-23-05 3
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps zaoli 03-23-05 26
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps banzai 03-23-05 10
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps gatortod 03-23-05 12
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps GottaLoveTAR 03-23-05 4
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps TARJUNKIE999 03-23-05 5
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps weecama 03-23-05 6
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps Flowerpower 03-23-05 9
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps gatortod 03-23-05 11
 Another inconsistency... Risti 03-23-05 7
   RE: Another inconsistency... TeamJoisey 03-23-05 17
       RE: Another inconsistency... brianne0879 03-24-05 41
 Question KObrien_fan 03-23-05 8
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps J Slice 03-23-05 13
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps FarmBoy 03-23-05 14
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps fallingtogether 03-23-05 34
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps pmspml5 03-23-05 15
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps KObrien_fan 03-23-05 16
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps Serendipity 03-23-05 18
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps gatortod 03-23-05 19
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps pmspml5 03-23-05 20
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps lovwigglesworth 03-23-05 21
               RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps LibraRising 03-23-05 22
               RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps CwazyWabbit 03-23-05 27
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps wendyp 03-29-05 68
 Lynn/Alex stop? lovwigglesworth 03-23-05 23
   RE: Lynn/Alex stop? pmspml5 03-23-05 24
       RE: Lynn/Alex stop? fallingtogether 03-23-05 35
   RE: Lynn/Alex stop? Pensha26 03-23-05 25
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps bkw549 03-23-05 28
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps Molaholic 03-23-05 29
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps choochoo 03-23-05 30
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps weecama 03-23-05 32
               RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps Neobie 03-23-05 38
                   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps pmspml5 03-24-05 43
                       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps banzai 03-24-05 44
               RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps dragonflies 03-24-05 42
               RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps weecama 03-24-05 45
           RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps flipxcyd 03-23-05 37
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps banzai 03-23-05 31
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps PokerBear 03-23-05 33
       RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps fallingtogether 03-23-05 36
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps banzai 03-24-05 39
   RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps brianne0879 03-24-05 40
 leg #5 banzai 03-25-05 46
   RE: leg #5 Neobie 03-26-05 47
   leg #6 banzai 03-26-05 48
       RE: leg #6 FFantasyFX 03-26-05 49
   RE: leg #5 banzai 03-26-05 50
       RE: leg #5 The Amazing Racer 03-27-05 51
           RE: leg #5 Flowerpower 03-27-05 52
               RE: leg #5 Gingerman28 03-27-05 53
                   RE: leg #5 banzai 03-27-05 54
 Some thoughts on the challenges.... FreshlySqueezed 03-27-05 55
   RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... banzai 03-27-05 56
       RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... Gingerman28 03-28-05 57
           RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... banzai 03-28-05 58
               RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... globespinner 03-28-05 59
                   RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... fairyprincess 03-28-05 60
                       RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... banzai 03-28-05 61
                       RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... weecama 03-28-05 62
           RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... FreshlySqueezed 03-28-05 63
               RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... VA Slim 03-28-05 64
   RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... Flowerpower 03-29-05 65
       RE: Some thoughts on the challenges... FreshlySqueezed 03-29-05 67
 RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps bed332004 03-29-05 66

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1. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 00:10 AM (EST)

Both brothers are on the ground. You can see one with a 2-tone shirt squatting next to the one in blue flat on the ground. Sorry, I know all of the otehr teams but I can never remember which brother is which. I'll upload the pics in a minute and add them to this post.


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2. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
I'll go along with the idea that Greg is squatting next to Brian. That's more likely, since they are brothers and one seems to be injured.

What puzzles me is the identity of the other two, contrasted with the clothes seen in the "crash" footage.



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3. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Mysteery person with long sleeves is standing closest to the truck and is here:

Sleeveless T grabbed the steering wheel but we still have pics of him doing so, so long sleeve is a cameraman:

For all I know, sleeveless is a sound guy.

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26. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
So maybe something happened to the plaid short driving brother, passed out or something? That is why we hear "Brian!" And the camera angle makes it look like sleeveless guy jumps from the back seat to grab the steering wheel. Could explain how they crash on a straight road? Too far fetched?
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10. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 06:58 AM (EST)

Is it S. Africa or Botswana safari?
If it's Botswana, then next episode has to be India. The title for episode 6 is "Houston, We Have An Elephant". So where's London?

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12. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"

>If it's Botswana, then next episode
>has to be India. The
>title for episode 6 is
>"Houston, We Have An Elephant".
>So where's London?

Maybe they are African elephants?

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4. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Orphanage? That leads me to believe their finally changing continents.
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5. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"

Vidcaps #1 thru 4 appear to confirm the Soweto Cooling Towers spoiler from the opening montage. So it's Buenos Aires to Johannesburg, S.A. (Soweto) next.

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6. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
OMH ,Gretchens face ! Horrors ! All joking aside could she be responsable for the title again? " I've always wanted a face lift"
Webteasers~

Tuesday, March 29, on THE AMAZING RACE
During a challenge, one Racer falls down a cave and comes up covered in blood from a gash on the head. Will that Team be able to race to the Pit Stop?

When two Teams race for the first Fast Forward of the Race, both their balance and their fear of heights are tested. Will either of them win the pass?

Teams get emotional after a visit to a local orphanage, which many describe as the best moment of the Race.

An intense drive ends with one Team getting into a horrible car accident. Will they recover and stay in the Race?


~puddin~

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9. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 06:45 AM (EST)

When two Teams race for the first Fast Forward of the Reace, both their balance and their fear of heights are tested. Will either of them win the pass?

Well, perhaps Deana will finally find something that she really can't do.

As far as the truck footage with the brothers, definately something is up....wrong clothing, must be a different time. Maybe they did recreate the accident with stand-ins?

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11. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"

>
>Tuesday, March 29, on THE AMAZING
>RACE
>During a challenge, one Racer falls
>down a cave and comes
>up covered in blood from
>a gash on the head.
>Will that Team be able
>to race to the Pit
>Stop?
>

We know this is Gretchen.

>When two Teams race for the
>first Fast Forward of the
>Race, both their balance and
>their fear of heights are
>tested. Will either of them
>win the pass?
>

The tower walk on the previews is the FF challange.

>Teams get emotional after a visit
>to a local orphanage, which
>many describe as the best
>moment of the Race.
>
>An intense drive ends with one
>Team getting into a horrible
>car accident. Will they recover
>and stay in the Race?
>

The brothers crash. How did they manage to crash on what looks like realtively flat terrain? Swerving to miss an animal?

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7. "Another inconsistency..."

-grey bucket seats

Blue bench seats.

I missed watching the actual preview, but is it possible that the initial two shots of blue-shirt!brother(I still can't tell them apart) driving are from a different sequence than the actual accident?

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17. "RE: Another inconsistency..."
If you look closely, you can see the two-cup cupholder in that second photo, so I don't think it is a bench seat.

It is certainly possible that the first shots of them driving were from a different sequence. But we don't see racers change clothes in the middle of a leg very often. And if they did change clothes, then we can't use the first frames to identify the people in the final frame.

Another thought... perhaps the third and fourth person at the crash site are Lynn and Alex who stopped to see if the brothers were OK.

Damn fuzzy picture!


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41. "RE: Another inconsistency..."
I think that the difference in clothes is from 2 different instances. I don't think that they would recreate an accident since the cameras are already there why would they need to? I just think that the editing of the preview makes it look like the same time but it isn't.
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8. "Question"
Since racers are allowed a new vehicle if it breaks down through no fault of their own, how will it be handled having an accident that is the teams fault? (Driving too fast in unsafe conditions for example)

Do they get a new vehicle but a penalty too? Has anybody ever had an accident on TAR?


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13. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
In a perfect world, that cooling tower would still have uranium in it. And Ray would fall in.


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14. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Good catch on the crash footage!

I thought it sounded like Lynn or Alex responding to the crash. maybe they stopped to help?



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34. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
LAST EDITED ON 03-23-05 AT 11:00 PM (EST)

On the preview last night it was Lynn saying, "On my God, Oh my God."

On the web preview at CBS.com it is Kelly saying something about them flipping their vehicle.

Edited to say: I just watched the CBS.com clip again and it's Kelly saying, "They flipped their Jeep."

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15. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"

I really think this is Ron in the background. Notice that the workers hats are a darker yellow. I think he has finished and is waiting for Kelly. I would put my money right now on R/K finishing first which makes R/D have to go all the way back to start over.

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16. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
There must have been some serious bunching at the beginning of the next episode for Ray and Deana to even think they have a chace at the FF with all those teams ahead of them and by as much as they were.


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18. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Not necessarily. They have to travel to at least one other continent/country. Airline scheduling could have evened out the time difference between teams.
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19. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Good pick up of a potential team member inthe background. That is what makes this thread so much fun!
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20. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
In the Web preview - you clearly hear Ray saying they made a huge mistake

Also, I think Gretchens fall is bad as you can hear Meredith panic much worse then they showed and it looks they are even with U/J and at least one other team because they all hear Meredith yell for help. I hope to GOD someone helps them and doesnt say - to bad we're in a race.

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21. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
I believe we see Kelly and Uchenna in the cave (during the same time as Gretchen?) in the web preview. This might meen that Ron/Kelly had to give up on the fast forward and are now in the pack with the other teams. Or might not if the fast forward is the first hour with a non-elim. and than this part is in the second hour. But it does seem to indicate, at least, that there are other teams there to help Gretchen out, and I think they would at least stop and make sure she was alright.
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22. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
if the fast forward is the first hour with a non-elim

Augh! I hope not. That would be such poor planning. One of my least favorite TAR moments was when Saint Brandon and Nicole weren't eliminated after one of the seven deadly sins -- vanity -- made them balk at taking the fast forward and put them in last.

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27. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
I watched the preview again and that is Kelly in the cave, so I'm thinking that it might not be Ron in the photo with Ray. The other team that R/D are with could be Rob and Amber and that R/A get the fast forward. It would solve the mystery for me as to why they are not featured in any of the previews so far after all the hype this past week.

I also think the voice over during the brothers accident is very much a girls voice...either Deana's or Kelly's (most likely the last).

And think, if I am right about R/A, my fellow Romber-dislikers and I will only have to endure 1/2 an hour of their gloating about being so much smarter than everyone else and then we will have 1.5 hours of Romber free TAR!...And they won't have the FF to use later when they need it!

As I always say, I am probably wrong. After 4 seasons of being a faithful watcher, I am still new to this speculating thing!

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68. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
One thing to think about is last season J/V could not try the underwater FF until after A/R tried. Was this a rule one at a time or just that stunt?

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23. "Lynn/Alex stop?"
Plus, I do think Lynn/Alex must stop when they see the brothers accident. My reason is that it has to be their cameraman that captures these far images we have clips of. The brothers cameraman is most likely in the image, wouldn't be that far away if he wasn't, and probably broke or turned off his camera.
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24. "RE: Lynn/Alex stop?"
It sounded like Kelly to me that says - the brother flipped their jeep - Kelly or Gretchen - not sure


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35. "RE: Lynn/Alex stop?"
It is Kelly in the web preview but I could have sworn that on last night's preview it was different and Lynn was saying, "On my God." So we have two different clips of two teams passing the crash site.
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25. "RE: Lynn/Alex stop?"
I have to agree with you on this one. The 4 people in the frame has to be the brothers, the cameraman, and the sound person.

I am not sure if anyone stops. If they did, i would be to see if they are OK and then continue on.

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28. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
We would know if a team was killed in this episode, right? I'm only saying this because my dad said he heard something on the radio saying that one of the teams was killed in this episode (which might explain the random two-hour episode in the middle of the season?) while he was driving to work this morning. While I doubt it's true, I do remember watching Jeopardy 3 or 4 months ago and seeing a commercial for the news saying something along the line of "It was bound to happen eventually, someone has finally been killed in the making of a reality TV show. This and more at 11." I didn't remember to watch that night, but I figured the people on this board would know if it was the Amazing Race. Can anyone make my entire family feel a lot better by confirming this rumor as false? Thanks a lot.
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29. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
We finally get out of South America. Notice brother driving is on the right-hand side. This, along with the towers and orphanage footage make a very strong case for South Africa.

The reality show fatality was not TAR, I think it was the Richard Bransen Millionaire p.o.c. that was on a little while back. (I could be wrong, but I sure it wasn't TAR) The accident happened in Washington State.




Yet another Syren gem © MMV
Starting the countdown all over again!

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30. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
I heard it was one of the boxers on "The Contender" who died. There was a news story of one of the fighters committing suicide before the first episode ever aired. I think I saw in the previews for an upcoming episode that they were going to vote an eliminated boxer back in. Probably to cover the unexpected suicide.


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VO: the Amazing Race takes off for South Africa
Male Urcheena? " thats what I'm talking about!
Lion: ROAR
VO: will a fear of heights
Deana: Ray I can't do this
VO: lead to the fall of the dating couple?
Ray : we made a big mistake
Jeeps , Male WooHoo
VO: a race through the bush may mean disaster for the brothers
Female/ not sure who ? : they flipped their jeep
VO: and a cave challenge
Gretchen: Meredith..?
Meredith: come this was please
VO: could be the most dangerous risk ever
Meridith?: are you alright?
Meridith : HELP US WE FELL !
VO: a new Amazing Race CBS tuesday ..
HELP USS....


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38. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Are we sure that's a second team behind the Ray shots? Beacause there's only one Jacob's Ladder across the cooling stack.
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43. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
I think somewhere there are 2 silos. The other team is pretty far back so each could be crossing their own silo. The previews clearly say that 2 teams go for it.

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44. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
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thanks to sachi66

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42. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Is #48 & #49 Amber?

I'd like to flit but usually zoom
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45. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
I lightened the Video and slowed it down
#55A ( Which male has a white shirt and Khaki pants? )
#55 Their are four people or two teams in this picture
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#57 Brian or Gregg"Watch Out beepbeepbeep " I think they swerve to miss the Ostrich
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#61 There are 5 people in this shot far right looks like Brian to me ,second from the right could be Gregg? Then we have one person laying down , someone kneeling next to that person and to the left someone walking towards the wreck .This is as a team passes by , its a view from their jeep most likely .Female/ Kelly? :"They flipped their Jeep" Male Lynn? : OMG are you OK?
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37. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
I know this isn't the Contender thread, but Najhy (sp?) is the one who committed suicide before the season started to air. The last episode was dedicated in his memory. Najhy already lost before he committed suicide. A boxer does come back after another boxer was diagnosed with chicken pox. The doctor wouldn't allow him to compete since he had a contagious disease, so he was forced to quit. To replace him, the remaining boxers had to vote for one of three boxers that had already lost. I believe they all voted for the tall boxer. I really don't know which guy it was, since I missed the first couple of episodes. The show is getting interesting however. I've got this Tivo'd now.
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The brothers are fine. They just had a party with Jonathan.
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33. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
Does that mean they didn't win the race? Usually the winners are a bit more low key, aren't they?
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36. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
We already know who wins the race and it's not the brothers?
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39. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
What's that around his waist? a back supporter? back injury?
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40. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
It looks like his backpack.
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46. "leg #5"
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I just realize that all the tasks in the preview come from a single leg. When the editor edited for leg #5, he didn't know that CBS will combine two episodes and make a two-hour special. The preview at the end of each leg is usually for the next leg. What the editor should do is go to the end of leg #5 and cut out the preview of leg #6 and show us. By the time he realizes it, it's too late now.

Take a look at the map below.

After they land in Johannesburg International airport, they'll go to a route marker and grab the Fast Forward (FF).
The FF is the cooling tower in Soweto.
If the teams can't do a FF, then they have to do the cave Detour which is in the Gold Reef City. There're hundreds of gold mines in the area. The Detour can't be far from the FF. They have to do the Detour & the Roadblock in one day so they can't travel far like 100 miles or 12 hours.
In South Africa, there are many game reserves too. The close one is the Krugersdorp Game Reserve.
It's not safe at night in South Africa so the pitstop should be back in Johannesburg.
Can they beg in South Africa?

So what's leg #6? I don't know.

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47. "RE: leg #5"
There's a possibility that it's all from Leg 6 though. Leg 5 is most likely a non-elimination (therefore the bunching), and London will seem very out of place if the teams head out to Botswana and then to India right after that according to the Romber Flight Spoiler. (Opening Sequence Spoilers have never failed us before.)

Let's see if we get any previews that tell us the other location.

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48. "leg #6"
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leg #6
VO: In Africa, the teams face to face with some hungry lions.
man deep voice: I'm not making eye contact with anybody.

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202. Kelly
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204. Ron, Greg, Ray/Deana are in this truck
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206. Kelly?
207. feeding time
208. Uchenna
209. Romber's jacket behind Uchenna
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49. "RE: leg #6"
Well, now I'm confused. You need to give us some additional information, banzai. How do you know that that particular footage is from Leg #6? Does that mean that all previous footage in this thread is indeed from Leg #5?

I'm having a hard time coming to terms with the structure of the double episode. Based on the TV guide listings, this is two episodes packed into one - a nonelimination followed by an elimination episode most probably. The rumored locations are what is giving me a true headache. The opening credits seem to hint that the teams will spend some time in England (and perhaps Turkey?). However, another spoiler out there unequivocally states that the teams are headed to a location in the Himalayas immediately after South Africa/Botswana. I might be able to buy backtracking to the Turkey (although even that would be tough to swallow), but if the latter spoiler is true, Leg #5 should take place in England. The itinerary simply isn't making sense right now. Can someone pass an aspirin please?

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50. "RE: leg #5"

Aardvark at Gweta, Botswana
thanks to Dreamer vidcap & krazidali

So I was wrong that the preview is only for S. Africa. Oh well ! Sorry, everyone.

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51. "RE: leg #5"
Gretchen's head wound looks bad, but according to the newest rumor (which I believe myself due to all the evidence I found to back it up)they should be in the Final 3! Surprised? I was...
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52. "RE: leg #5"
but according to the newest rumor (which I believe myself due to all the evidence I found to back it up) they should be in the Final 3! Surprised? I was.....

I am not one to flame Amazing Racer, but how can you post a statement like the one above omiting "all of the evidence to back it up". If you have stumbled onto information that leads you to believe that Team AARP makes the final three, then let's hear it??? You most certainly cannot expect everyone to blindly follow without any facts, just because you believe it.

When you make statements like that in the spoiler thread, you need to be forthcoming with the info.....so, let's hear it.

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53. "RE: leg #5"
The first thing we need to determine does the 29 March episode include one or two legs? Leg 5 from Buenos Aires to Johannesburg, South Africa and Leg 6 From Johannesburg to Botswana? Or is this only a double length leg 5 as was the double length (to be continued) leg in Eger and Budapest, Hungary?

If we have two legs does that mean two Detours and Two Roadblocks, two pit stops, and a Fast Forward? The Fast Forward seems to be the walk over the cooling towers in Soweto. We also have the cave crawl, feeding the lions in Lion Park, all of which could be in South Africa around Johannesburg. First pit stop and NEL could end up in Johannesburg which would be a little safer at night for the teams and crew.

The teams seem to travel through the Lion Park in trucks with more than one team in them.

The next leg could be in Botswana at one of the game reserves around Gweta where we have spotted the large stone statue of the Aardvark. Which brings up another curious thing which no one seems to have focused on. What is the role of the yellow biplane which buzzes over at least two teams running on the road and then continues over the Aardvark? Just atmosphere (recreating one of Alfred Hitchcocks most famous scenes) or does the plane involve some other task?

One task in Botswana looks like one we had in Norway with the viking weapons. Here we have Brian throwing a spear at a moving sand bag. Greg is watching so maybe this is a Roadblock.

Most of the previews have been focusing on the wreck of the Land Rover with the brothers Brian and Greg on board. But there has been a lot of juggling of the editing in this sequence. We first see Brian with a dark blue shirt with sleves coming down to his bicepts driving (note bead bracelet on left wrist) But at the time of the wreck he is wearing a sleveless white shirt (again note bead bracelet on his left wrist)! So it looks like the teams have been spending at least one night in a safari campsite. In the fuzzy picture of the wreck it is hard to spot a person with a white sleveless shirt. And there appears to be a fifth person walking toward the group from the left. So at least one other vehicle has stopped. And we have another going by. So it looks like many cars were running together across the grassland.

After the accident in the cave (first day?) we no longer see Meredith or Gretchen. Do they want us to believe that they have been eliminated at the end of leg 5?

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54. "RE: leg #5"
TAR6 Aaron @ TWop said that the first leg of Budapest was supposed to be a NEL and has a pit stop. The production found out that it was illegal to beg in Hungary so that was why it was a to be continued. It was a one-time anomaly and we'll never see again.
I don't think TV Guide spells wrong because they just copy & paste the press release. Episode 5 should have leg 5 and leg 6. Each leg is complete with pit stop, Detour, Roadblock, and a 12-hour rest period.

In TAR5, if there's a NEL, there's a FF. Since we see a FF in Soweto, S. Africa, that leg should be a NEL.
So there are two Detours, Two Roadblocks, two pit stops, and a Fast Forward.
The safari should be in Botswana.

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55. "Some thoughts on the challenges...."
Whether this is one longass leg or two separate legs, we're still talking 2 detours, 2 roadblocks and 1 fast forward along with a myriad of pit stops and small novelty challenges like sliding the glass on the ice bar or riding a rail car etc.

here's what i see so far in challenges

Cave Climbing - probable Detour as it looks like both Meredith and Gretchen are participating Image #46
Shown: M/G, R/D, R/K, U/J

Lion Feeding - probable Detour Image #209
Shown: Uchenna, Rob, Ray, Deena (or Amber), Greg, Ron & mystery person in long sleeved blue shirt (possibly kelly).
ETA: process of elim would make this a Detour see explanation below.

Orphanage - No idea whether this is a RB or simply a novelty task. Uchenna is shown holding bags (blue and brown) so we know there's a challenge involved, just not what. Image # 7
Shown:Uchenna/Joyce

Silo Walk - Definately Fast Forward Images #1-4

Target Practice - Probably Roadblock as we only see one of the brothers throwing the spear at the target. Images #24-28 (#25 is a broken link but if you c/p it and remove the #25, you'll be able to view it. shows him mid throw so it helps put the picture together)
Shown: Brian & Greg

Airplane - No idea what this is, but most likely it's a roadblock since there's already 2 detours (feeding lions and cave climbing) and 1 roadblock (spear throwing)

Since the shot of Greg feeding the lions (image #204) and the shot of Brian tossing the spear (Image #24) have Greg wearing the same shirt, we know it's the same day. Problem is, both the lions and the spear tossing appear to be Roadblocks!! Since one of these 2 challenges HAS to be a Detour, I would hesitate to guess then, that the feeding of the lions is NOT a roadblock afterall. Here's why. In Image #204, Greg is holding his feeding bucket and wearing rubber gloves. IF this was a Roadblock, wouldn't only ONE member of each team be participating? Why then, are both Ray AND Deana in the vehicle together? (Side note: to me that looks like Amber and not Deana, but since Rob is shown feeding the lions next to Uchenna, either way, that puts R/A doing the task or R/D doing the task, thus Detour)

Also the supposed shots of the car accident have Greg wearing the same shirt as the lion feeding and the spear tossing so this must happen after they've done both tasks or it's not as serious as they make it seem. Also Ray/Deana (shown in the van with Greg & Ron)look to be wearing the same clothes as they are in the FF. So this puts the following all in one episode: FF, Lion feeding(Detour), Spear throwing (RB)& car accident.

That leaves only 3 challenges unaccounted for. The cave climbing , the orphanage and the airplane.

We know that the plane flies over the giant aardvark in botswana so that has to be Episode 6. Could it be possible that the cave climbing is done at the start of this episode prior to them flying to Botswana?? The reason i pose this question, is because we already have a Detour & RB all on Episode 5. *Something* has to happen on Episode 6!

The only thing so far that i'm questioning is Ray/Deena outfits in the truck (image #204) as being the same ones as in the FF (images #1-4). It looks like it could be Ron in the bknd at the FF, in which case, that shirt doesn't match up to Ron's shirt in image #204. In which case, the FF could easily be at the start of Episode #6. The whole R/D vs R/K doesn't fly though for either day. We see both of them in the Feeding lions task AND both of them in the cave climbing task (which are different days) so whichever day the FF falls on, if it is indeed a matchup between those 2 teams for the FF, why do we then see both teams in other challenges???

We know Orphanage is different day than Lion feeding and Spear tossing as Uchenna has on a gold striped shirt in one and a lemon yellow solid t-shirt in another.

So at this point:

Episode 5: Lion Feeding (Detour), Spear Tossing (Roadblock) & Truck accident (all 3 supported by Greg wearing same shirt in all 3 places)

Episode 6: Orphanage (RB? novelty challenge?), Cave Climbing (Detour) & Plane/Aardvark in Botswana (RB? novelty challenge?)

So who gets the FF? Last year the FF's were prior to both Detour and RB challenges. The year before, 1 FF was prior to the challenges and 1 FF was after the Detour and before RB. So because there is no hard and fast rule, it could be anyone. If they have the FF prior to all challenges (like they did 3 of the last 4 FFs), then possible FF winners would be:


If FF is Episode 5: Possibles are M/G, L/A as all others are shown feeding the lions and/or spear throwing.

If FF is Episode 6: Possibles are L/A, R/A, B/G as all others are shown doing the Cave Climbing and/or orphanage

If Episode 5 is an elimination, it would have to be L/A or B/G as they're missing from Eppy 6 (R/A surviving cause of spoilers)

ok, my brain hurts now.

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56. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
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Here are some more.
210. 211. Lynn
212. Joyce
213. Joyce is feeding the lion too
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57. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
>Also the supposed shots of the
>car accident have Greg wearing
>the same shirt as the
>lion feeding and the spear
>tossing so this must happen
>after they've done both tasks
>or it's not as serious
>as they make it seem.

But if you look closely at how this sequence is edited you will be able to see that the shots used in the sequence have been filmed at different times. We have a close up of Brian driving and then a close shot of his hands on the wheeel. In these shots he is wearing a blue short sleeved shirt. He has a bead bracelet on his left wrist. Through the window you can see what looks like a deep green woods with trees dissimilar from those seen in the long shots of the Land Rover (by the way at least one shot of the LR has been reversed so that the snorkle is on the right side of the windshield and not the left and that the steering wheel seen through the window is also on the left!). In the actual crash sequence after the run-in with the Ostrich, Brian is wearing a sleeeless white shirt, still not that he has the bead bracelet on his left wrist. After the crash it looks like from the left we have a cameraperson, Brian knelling on the ground (whitish shirt) and what very well may be the Ostrich and not a person who has been hite; then it looks like Greg bending over (brownish shirt, dark shorts) and another person walking up to them (Lynn or Alex?)

Anoher thing, if Ray and Deana complete the fast forward in South Africa (walking across the cooling towers) why do we think we see them on the Lion feed and or the cave walk? I think in the Land Rover that is headed for the lions we have Rod (and kelly) Greg (and Brian) and then Uchenna and Joyce in the third and last seat.

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58. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
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209.
The only thing I don't understand is how come Joyce doesn't sit next to her husband? Ray & Deana are sitting on the same bench.
And what kind of task is this? If one team finishes first, then they have to wait for the other teams to finish too.

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59. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
I posted this in another thread--I'm putting it here, too only because I haven't seen it mentioned. As far as Gretchen's injury: Her profile says she's a retired nurse, so it pretty likely that she'll take care of her own wound (maybe even stitch it herself!) and they'll be on their way.
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60. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
sorry to bother all but could someone please tell me who it is in picture #52 above. Thanks.
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61. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
that's Kelly in #52.
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62. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
#52 I beleive it's Kelly> >

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63. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
So if Brian is wearing dark blue short sleeved shirt along with Greg wearing the beige shirt we see him in doing Episode 5 activities, then peut etre the car accident is in Episode 6 then if they're in different clothes.

Also regarding Ray, we only know that they try for the FF. Do we know they actually succeed? that could explain why you see them both in the lion feeding and the cave climbing tasks.

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64. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
Agree that maybe the reason we are having so much confusion with the FF is that neither R/D or the couple in the background complete it. The bridge will be a very challenging task because there is bound to be a pretty good draft in that tower. Even if the plant is not in use the difference in temps between the interior of that tower and the outside air will be enough to start a circulation. That bridge is pretty "flimsy" and it may not be possible for both teams to complete the walk across it. Once one team leaves after making a "big mistake" the other may also leave because they just can't get both members across and don't want to fall too far behind the others.
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65. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
If FF is Episode 5: Possibles are M/G, L/A as all others are shown feeding the lions and/or spear throwing.

But, what about L/A being heard to say "Oh my God, oh my God" in reaction to the car accident as they drive by the brothers.
If the car accident follows the detour and the roadblock, then L/A could not have won the FF.


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67. "RE: Some thoughts on the challenges...."
that's very true./..but the difference in the clothing of Brian/Greg hints that the accident is in Episode 6..so L/A could very easily do the FF if it's in Eppy 5
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66. "RE: TAR 7 Episode 5 Preview vidcaps"
found this detail on an ET link. it speculates all teams do the caves before the FF. Also that the orphanage visit may be the cause for the rollover?????

"this week the race takes the teams to South Africa for a cave climbing challenge, one of the most dangerous events to date. And one of the contestants pays the price, taking a tumble. It looks like it might be GRETCHEN, who comes up covered in blood.

Then two teams race for the first Fast Forward of game seven in a competition that measures both their balance and their fear of heights.

Also, the racers visit a local orphanage in an emotional journey that may be the cause for one team getting into a serious Jeep accident. Will it keep the racers from reaching the Pit Stop?

For a sneak peek at Tuesday's two-hour "Amazing Race 7," tune in to tonight's ET".

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