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05-21-04, 02:20 PM (EST)
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"Final Song Themes?"
Has the rumor mill be saying anything about the 'themes' for Tuesday night? Will it be three songs each? Are there any themes? Will the judges pick a song again? Is it all up to the final two contestants?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Final Song Themes? JOSHIDOL 05-21-04 1
   RE: Final Song Themes? geekboy 05-21-04 2
       RE: Final Song Themes? shedevil 05-21-04 5
   Why zombiebaby 05-21-04 3
       RE: Why JOSHIDOL 05-21-04 4
           Cost AyaK 05-21-04 6
               RE: Cost seahorse 05-24-04 7
               RE: Cost rjrabbit 05-24-04 10
                   RE: Cost Horatio 05-25-04 16
 RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reve... FSUGUY 05-24-04 8
   RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reve... okaychatt 05-24-04 9
       RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reve... FSUGUY 05-25-04 13
           RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reve... geekboy 05-25-04 14
           RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reve... seahorse 05-25-04 15

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JOSHIDOL 275 desperate attention whore postings
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05-21-04, 02:55 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Final Song Themes?"
We know they will have to each sing their version of that "I Believe" song written by Tamyra Grey. If it is like anything she sang the other night, it may not be worth watching.
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2. "RE: Final Song Themes?"
'Star' was quite boring, but i do like 'Raindrops Will Fall'. It had an Alicia Keys vibe to it.
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05-21-04, 06:40 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Final Song Themes?"
'Star' was quite boring, but i do like 'Raindrops Will Fall'. It had an Alicia Keys vibe to it.

I agree with you 100 percent.


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3. "Why"
are they using that chick to write a song? I did not watch the first season so I don't know her at all.

But you would think they would use a more established songwriter or team for the winner of this. It does not seam like they would want to take a chance with the first song.

I guess though in thinking about it I don't even remember any of the other's songs except "Bridge Over Troubled Waters". So it will just be adding to the rest of the junk that is out there now.



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05-21-04, 02:32 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Why"
She probably is locked into a contract with them and for some reason they are using her song. I geuess it could be cheaper for them instead of paying some established songwriter.
Its funny because the other day I heard something on the radion about on American Idol they are singing the same songs season after season and it is actually true.
I think they have a limited number of songs that they can actually sing. Some songwriters and artist won't let them sing any of them at all. Gee, wonder why, lol....
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6. "Cost"
I think they have a limited number of songs that they can actually sing. Some songwriters and artist won't let them sing any of them at all. Gee, wonder why, lol....

I can actually answer this question. Licensing songs for use on TV is expensive. Back when radio was in its infancy, the FCC ruled that the promotional value of playing a song on the radio offset the use of the copyright, so over-the-air radio stations don't have to pay anything to play songs (unlike Internet broadcasters, which is another controversy...). But TV stations have always had to pay for use. The rate isn't fixed, either.

Some publishers are willing to cut Idol a price break, although occasionally that's linked to an appearance by the songwriter on the show (Manilow, Sedaka, Robin Gibb ... and hopefully Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan for next year). Other publishers cut Idol a price break in return for some of their songs appearing on Idol CDs (such as this year's "Greatest Soul Classics"). Other publishers want top dollar (for example, Michael Jackson, who is almost broke, won't shave off a penny for use of any Lennon-McCartney songs or other songs that he controls -- he can be almost broke despite controlling these songs because he has his rights to them mortgaged to the hilt).

Idol uses the songs that the producers decide they can afford.

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05-24-04, 01:54 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Cost"
It seems very surprising that with the profits Fox is making from AI that they can not afford to get the songs they singers want to sing.
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05-24-04, 08:25 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Cost"
I was going to say that Justin Guarini sang a Michael Jackson song in Season 1 - P. Y. T. (Pretty Young Thing) but I see that it was written and composed by James Ingram and Quincy Jones.

I would love to hear some Beattles and MJ songs but MJ has probably made that cost-prohibitive.

Ayak,
Does MJ own all the Beattles songs? or just most of them? Do you know? Do they have to pay each time the song is used on air or just once?

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05-25-04, 07:49 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Cost"

>I would love to hear some
>Beattles and MJ songs but
>MJ has probably made that
>cost-prohibitive.
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>Ayak,
>Does MJ own all the Beattles
>songs? or just most of
>them? Do you know? Do
>they have to pay each
>time the song is used
>on air or just once?

MJ owns most if not all of the songs. I think there are very few he does not own. Back when Paul McCartney and him were friends in the 80's Michael talked about thinking of buying them. McCartney thought he was joking around and thought nothing of it. MJ bought the songs before Paul could buy back the rights. It doesn't matter in the end though because if Paul wants to play a Beatles song, he plays it. He wrote the darn things for crying out loud. McCartney has said on numerous occasions, "Why should I have to pay for something I wrote?"


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05-24-04, 07:34 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reveal"
Fox 4 promo at 9pm - and find out what songs they will be singing.....


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9. "RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reveal"
The Swan is on instead. YUCK!

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13. "RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reveal"
ok....
both 'I believe'
Fantasia - 'Summertime'
Diana - 'Don't cry out loud'

that's all they mentioned.....

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14. "RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reveal"
i find it quite hard to believe they're going to repeat songs they've already sung in the competition.

this is their night to shine their brightest and bring out the big guns, as Clay did with 'Bridge...'

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15. "RE: Final Song Themes? -DFW to reveal"
I missed the show where Fantasia sang Summertime. I hope she does sing it, since it was so well received.
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