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OMGIM40 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-26-05, 05:48 PM (EST) "Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I've been having a hard time connecting with any of the SO Housemates this season. It feels...Fake. All I can think of is the infamous Omarosa. She has said that she is either going to or is teaching a class on Reality TV. She calls it "Acting in an Unscripted Drama". Sometimes I get the feeling that is what has happened to Starting Over. They are all acting in an unscripted drama. Feedback Please   Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... GreenSideUp 10-26-05 1    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... dgibson 10-26-05 2  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... cannfran59 10-26-05 3    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... chicola 10-26-05 4  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... chaines 10-26-05 5  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... ktsmom 10-26-05 6    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... OMGIM40 10-26-05 7        RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... Fuschia 10-26-05 8        RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... Sandrasprecious3 10-27-05 12        RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... Phat Girl Slim 10-28-05 17  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... MELLOWGAL 10-26-05 9  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... summerwatcher 10-27-05 10  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... lrlr1 10-27-05 11  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... OMGIM40 10-27-05 13    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... Redbud 10-28-05 19  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... Busybee 10-27-05 14    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... OMGIM40 10-27-05 15  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... erikonline 10-28-05 16    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... Phat Girl Slim 10-28-05 18  RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... ampsmomma 10-28-05 20    RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPRO... OMGIM40 10-28-05 21

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GreenSideUp 274 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-26-05, 05:51 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" LAST EDITED ON 10-26-05 AT 05:51 PM (EST) I don't know about this show, but I keep meaning to watch Laguna Beach because I have read that it's the prime example of the problem you are describing. has anyone else seen Laguna Beach?   Top

dgibson 76 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-26-05, 05:59 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" Not Laguna Beach, but I will tell you this, this show has completely commercialized. The first season was about helping the women. Now I believe it is about the women HELPING THE RATINGS of the show.   Top

cannfran59 56 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-26-05, 06:33 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I'm glad more viewers are finally speaking up. Reality-Based Drama??? Kinda hard to dicipher huh? Maybe if they cussed one another like Hailey did when they brought Cassie 1 back to talk about HER (Haileys) alcohol problem when it was Cassie with the real problem !ie. Or if somebody would just SLAP someone else,(now that's what I call REALITY and DRAMA!!!) I keep hearing the ladies talk about how mad, sad, bad they are (all the while smiling)! When I am mad, a smile is the furthest thing on my mind! The HMs need to stop ACTING and start REACTING... .........ann   Top

chicola 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-26-05, 07:09 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I feel this season is for more show than healing.Last season everyone could identify with several housemates problems. The best part is how they all worked together.   Top

chaines 86 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-26-05, 08:37 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" This has been a very hard season to connect to....I have been a watcher since inception and this season I can't seem to get into it. Maybe I'm just not getting "it"? Commercialism has taken over the show...The women that were in season one had real problems that many could relate to, season two had women with problems that women could relate to.....Season three???? too much specificity of the problems and the women are not easy to connect with, I can understand why TJ is having such trouble..   Top

ktsmom 12 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 10-26-05, 08:46 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I totally agree if they don't get their act together they are going to lose the show without a doubt!!!   Top

OMGIM40 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-26-05, 10:51 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I agree! You know I was thinking...I can honestly say that I really don't know much about any of the Housemates! Even their group sessions are duds. All I recall are the LCs yapping about something and then saying: **What's happening Allison? **What are the tears for Allison? **How are you feeling Jess? And then Allison saying either she's shamed; I get cancer; or I disappear..... Jessica just never knows. Oh...Lisa looking like a deer caught in the headlights. Does anybody else feel like this. I'm sure with the other seasons I knew a lot about them by this time. JMHO   Top

Fuschia 11 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 10-26-05, 11:10 PM (EST) 8. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" >I agree! You know I >was thinking...I can honestly say >that I really don't know >much about any of the >Housemates! Even their group >sessions are duds. All >I recall are the LCs >yapping about something and then >saying: >**What's happening Allison? >**What are the tears for Allison? > >**How are you feeling Jess? >And then Allison saying either she's >shamed; I get cancer; or >I disappear..... >Jessica just never knows. >Oh...Lisa looking like a deer caught >in the headlights. > >Does anybody else feel like this. > I'm sure with the >other seasons I knew a >lot about them by this >time. > >JMHO This is funny...thanks for the laugh   Top

Sandrasprecious3 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-27-05, 10:20 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" >I agree! You know I >was thinking...I can honestly say >that I really don't know >much about any of the >Housemates! Even their group >sessions are duds. All >I recall are the LCs >yapping about something and then >saying: >**What's happening Allison? >**What are the tears for Allison? > >**How are you feeling Jess? >And then Allison saying either she's >shamed; I get cancer; or >I disappear..... >Jessica just never knows. >Oh...Lisa looking like a deer caught >in the headlights. > >Does anybody else feel like this. > I'm sure with the >other seasons I knew a >lot about them by this >time. > >JMHO This is funny...LOL! And I couldn't agree with you more. This season seems to be really missing something. Also, the women might be consulting with friends outside the house and it is just not being shown like it was the previous two seasons. I know last season they only showed the conversations that were pot stirring convos. When one housemate had something not so nice to say about someone else or something. I do believe this season needs to get more substance or I can see this show ending up magically dissappearing. I mean not only are the HG being made to look silly. But the LC's with all of the dramaticals are looking like big jokes as well. I get that some people believe the LC's exercises are "good tools". But I'm not open to humiliation and I would shut down and lose focus of what the exercise purpose was, if humiliation was used to help me "get it". Sandra   Top

Phat Girl Slim 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-28-05, 12:27 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I agree with you. None of the women seem to want to connect with one another. They get close one episode and by the next one, they've moved on and connected with a different house mate, leaving the previous one... it seems as if they're all enjoying a two week (or how ever long) vacation & their roommates are inciedntal. I think this is the last season & it should be, before the show gets REALLY bad. I doubt I'll watch next seasons SO house. As it is now, I'm really just curious about Jill and I honestly could just wait & read about her progress later on. I must admit to a guilty pleasure: I like watching all the different ways that DUMB A$$ Lisa will put her designer show in her mouth! I believe she is on drugs (seriously).   Top

MELLOWGAL 2 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 10-26-05, 11:34 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I am so disappointed with the SO show this season. It seems that all the drama queens were casted for this season. I was so hooked on season one and two, wouldnt miss it for the world...This season not so thrilled. It seems that that Iy, is always looking to see if the camera is on her, and I find it very distracting. Lets get back to the real reason the show was created, to show woman and men also, that goals can be acheived without silly exercises. It almost reminds me of truth or consequences.   Top

summerwatcher 14 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 10-27-05, 00:15 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" >I've been having a hard time >connecting with any of the >SO Housemates this season. >It feels...Fake. > >All I can think of is >the infamous Omarosa. She >has said that she is >either going to or is >teaching a class on Reality >TV. She calls it >"Acting in an Unscripted Drama". > Sometimes I get the >feeling that is what has >happened to Starting Over. They >are all acting in an >unscripted drama. > >Feedback Please I think you are on to something, OMGIM40. (That's a cute screen name, by the way.) They seem to be acting in a "scripted drama." I have noticed several times that they seem to be reading from either a prompter or cue cards.   Top

lrlr1 512 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 10-27-05, 01:52 AM (EST) 11. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I wish I could agree cause Lord knows I wish these women WERE acting! But I think they're for real. The 'problem' that most people are having with SO this season, and some have pointed it out, is what IV said at the last BOR: "There is no WARMTH in this house." Warmth meaning simple woman to woman bonding, friendships, cooperation. That is the common problem for all the women. They cannot connect with other women! How many telephone calls have any of the HGs made to girlFRIENDS? I cannot recall any of them speaking of any girlfriends on the outside, so why would they be expected to make friends in the house? They all have crazy issues that would drive most people, not just women, away from them. TJ with her diarrhea of the mouth would not just drive me away, she'd drive me nuts. Each woman has something off that keeps them isolated, closed off and unable to form friendships. That, along with all the women being followers - not a leader among them - is what makes this season seem so dry. Plus they have wierd problems (Lisa dressing up and ACTING like a baby was grossly off-putting to me).   Top

OMGIM40 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-27-05, 03:11 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" Help! I've Fallen and I Can't Get Up! Thank you ladies for all of the great input. We need a little laugh here and there!! You know what I was thinking? Starting Over needs to get back to the basics! 1)No Makeup 2)No messing with the hair. Pulled in a pony. 3)Everyone wears the same color scrubs 4)No mirrors 5)No Mansion/Luxury Home. I think a simple farm house with enough bedrooms. Have it at a working farm. Chickens and other animals to take care of. Gardening work to do. Just get back to basics of life, so there is NO SHOWBOATING! P.S. I don't think Allison would have wanted to come back! Just a thought...Feedback Please!   Top

Redbud 573 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 10-28-05, 02:06 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" >Help! I've Fallen and I Can't >Get Up! >5)No Mansion/Luxury Home. I think >a simple farm house with >enough bedrooms. Have it >at a working farm. >Chickens and other animals to >take care of. Gardening >work to do. Just get >back to basics of life, >so there is NO SHOWBOATING! > >P.S. I don't think Allison would >have wanted to come back! > > >Just a thought...Feedback Please! Oh my gosh!! Lisa on a FARM - that would be priceless!!   Top

Busybee 53 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square" 10-27-05, 07:36 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" Oh my gosh, I was just writing about this in the other forum. Here's some of it...I've almost been tempted to believe that Lisa is just an actor, not really someone who needs help. Maybe she was hired onto the show to pick on the HG's and bring the "fight" out in them. Have you EVER know anyone like her? I've never known a 40 year old woman to never have kept a job...does she have friends? It all just doesn't seem real. When she cries there are no tears, it looks fake. And the previews for tomorrow show her talking about being a hooker, once again! Maybe they are using her to make Christina angry. Do you think it's possible she's just an actress hired to bring drama into the house? I know I was writing about Lisa, but this could be about all of them. If they can bring in fake ppl (like the man who said he knew Christina) then I think they could bring in a fake HG's just to liven up the season. I have not seen the other season's cuz I just resigned from my job and never knew this show existed...but it seems that from what the rest of you say, this time around lacks warmth and feeling in the show.   Top

OMGIM40 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-27-05, 09:50 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" Hey Busy! I'm not willing to take it that far, but I do think that there are so many people wanting to get on these reality shows that they are becoming very sophisticated and knowing just how to "Create" drama. You hear about people who have been to audition after audition. Sooner or later, they will eventually end up on a show like S.O. and basically, contaminate the true intention/integrity of the show. Thanks for the input!   Top

erikonline 20 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 10-28-05, 09:47 AM (EST) 16. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I don't know about the housemates being compromised...but I do know that I am starting to hate Iyanla and Rhonda...they have compromised their principles and are being very mean to the housemates.   Top

Phat Girl Slim 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 10-28-05, 01:59 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I think that there are just so many Reality shows on now, everyone goes on the show with a preconcieved notion about how s/he should act. They all know how they'd like to be percieved and they know that EVERYTHING is being filmed, so they behave accordingly. If any of you watched the very first Survivor you'll recall how REAL that was... no beautiful, perfect bodies, b/c no one knew that they'd be on so many TV sets. After that, the show, and all other "Reality" shows that followed went Hollywood, because contestants knew they'd be seen by so many people... They're ALL hamming it up. How can you be real with a freakin camera crew following you around.   Top

ampsmomma 12 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 10-28-05, 03:45 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" I think that towards the end of last season they really started to step up the the drama for ratings. The whole thing with Tess and Meg and whats-her-face crazy alcoholic lady. It was all too much. I'm really dissapointed with the LC's this season, especially with the couples. I think the couples helped themselves more than the coaches did anything. Rhonda is laying it on so thick right now it's impossible to imagine her acting like a normal person. She's always been over the top but it seems this season she's taken a few acting lessons and its almost like she taking direction from someone on the other side of the camera. I think whoever takes this show to heart and literally is in serious denial about the world of Reality TV. The more they step up the drama, the more ratings, the more money in their pocket. We see on the show what they want us to see. For all we know TJ may not be that bad and Lisa not that stupid and Jessica not that weepy and Allison not that depressed. It's called EDITING people... Its sad where this show has gone. The first season seemed real to me. The first half of last season too, but it's just gone down hill from there. I'm done with my 2 cents   Top

OMGIM40 228 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 10-28-05, 06:09 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Who thinks S.O. has been COMPROMISED??" Hey Ladies! I couldn't agree more. Thanks for the great feedback. Who knows, maybe somebody from the show will read these comments and take it to heart. It is really a shame when a show, with such wonderful intentions, goes commercial. They end up not helping anybody...Not even us! I guess we'll have to fix ourselves...This is OUR Starting Over House (eh hem...Message Board) lol. Have a great day!   Top

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