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"Wife Swap 03/02"
Another week means another episode! Let's see how this goes down.
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 My pet peeve volsfan 03-02-05 1
 RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-02-05 2
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-02-05 3
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 DCRealityWatcher 03-02-05 4
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Social Democrat 10-30-05 66
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-02-05 5
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 DCRealityWatcher 03-02-05 9
           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-02-05 10
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-02-05 6
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-02-05 8
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-02-05 7
 ! HauteCoutureGirl 03-02-05 11
   RE: ! volsfan 03-03-05 18
 RE: Wife Swap 03/02 krislavonne 03-03-05 12
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 SmEMT 03-03-05 13
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 DCRealityWatcher 03-03-05 23
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 celinedion1 03-03-05 14
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-03-05 15
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 bacon 03-03-05 16
           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-03-05 17
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 annielynne42 03-07-05 40
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Pretty_Kitty 03-03-05 22
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 JustGracie 03-07-05 42
 This episode? northernlights 03-03-05 19
   RE: This episode? volsfan 03-03-05 20
   RE: This episode? weltek 03-03-05 21
 RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Loree 03-03-05 24
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-04-05 25
 RE: Wife Swap 03/02 PatUSA 03-04-05 26
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 bacon 03-04-05 27
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-05-05 28
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 HauteCoutureGirl 03-05-05 29
           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-05-05 30
               RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-06-05 31
                   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 PatUSA 03-06-05 32
                       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-06-05 34
                   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 PatUSA 03-06-05 33
                       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Zayd 03-07-05 35
                           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-07-05 36
                               RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-07-05 39
                                   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Social Democrat 10-30-05 64
                           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 PatUSA 03-07-05 37
                           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-07-05 38
                               RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Zayd 03-07-05 41
                                   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-08-05 43
                                       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Zayd 03-08-05 44
                                           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 JustGracie 03-08-05 45
                                           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-08-05 46
                                               RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Zayd 03-08-05 47
                                                   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-08-05 49
                                                       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 bacon 03-09-05 52
                           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 cannibalkactus 08-03-09 67
 RE: Wife Swap 03/02 messagegal4u 03-08-05 48
   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 volsfan 03-08-05 50
       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 SurvivorBlows 03-08-05 51
           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Zayd 03-09-05 53
               RE: Wife Swap 03/02 bacon 03-09-05 54
                   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Zayd 03-09-05 55
                       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Social Democrat 10-30-05 63
                   RE: Wife Swap 03/02 PatUSA 03-09-05 56
                       RE: Wife Swap 03/02 trudy 03-10-05 57
                           RE: Wife Swap 03/02 PatUSA 03-10-05 58
                               RE: Wife Swap 03/02 bacon 03-10-05 59
   UMMMM volsfan 03-16-05 61
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 RE: Wife Swap 03/02 Social Democrat 10-30-05 65

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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
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03-02-05, 10:05 PM (EST)
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1. "My pet peeve"
It isn't EYEraq!
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03-02-05, 10:11 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
This one could be good! Dan and the new mommie are not gonna be happy!
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3. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Military mom doesn't have to make Danny Boy breakfast because he's so full of righteous indignation! Nothing more annoying than a poodle that bites or a pseudo intellectual wannabe teenager.
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4. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Aaaaaaaaargh! Dan doesn't get it! It's not a part of pacifist beliefs to walk all over people. Quite the opposite. Quakers (I work for a Quaker organization), other religious pacifists like Dr. King and Gandhi, believe that nonviolence is about recognizing God, the Spirit, or the dignity in every one. (Mina is a Quaker.) Dan thinks he is nonviolent, but his words are violent. I'm disturbed by how outright mean he is, and that we are not seeing his father step in.

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66. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I am uncertian if you have read the latter part of the fourm, however Dan claims he is not pacifist. Furthermore, even in the program it is stated he is not a Quaker, he is an atheist (probably a strong atheist). Furthermore, I thought the Neocon mother should of attempt to counter his claim.
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5. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I just realized that there are 2 kids in the "peace activist's" family. Has #2 said a word yet??? He's actually probably the smart one, since it's obvious he's figured out he'll never get a word in edgewise between his mom and his brother. Thinking the dad there is ready to throw in the towel on the whole thing.
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9. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
The email I've seen from Mina said that she knew Dan would get the most air time because he butted heads with the new wife (ugh, just blanked on her name!).

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10. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
email? you have info?
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6. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Quote of the night by the announcer guy "Dan is revolting" lol
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8. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
HEHEHE! You think?!
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7. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
LAST EDITED ON 03-02-05 AT 10:47 PM (EST)

And the hits just keep comming - Pacifist non-violence mom has a dress-up and they're all in animal skins!EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW

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Volsfan, you didn't tell me you were into Wife Swap too! Don't think I followed you in here or anything. Just happened to think this particular episode was one of the best I've seen. I might be the outcast here, but I'll go ahead and say it anyway. I was rooting for the liberals the whole way through. The conservative family def had the cuter kids tho, and I can't say the teenager in the other family (I forget his name- is it Dan?) wouldn't have made a stronger argument if, say, he'd actually considered a hair cut before the show was taped, but I think the peace protesting hippy family overall had a much more intelligent and valid standpoint. I guess you can guess which current president I didn't vote for!

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Haute...I am all over this place. You could find me anywheres!
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12. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
First of all I do agree that no one likes war but its silly to think that it is NEVER expected to be a reality. I think the athiest teenager needs to learn some respect to the fallen soldiers in the past to make this country what it is today, also if he hates this country so much then perhaps he should move to a third world country for a few months so he can learn respect and stop taking advantage of the things he has here. There are too many people out there that are fighting in the war now away from their families, do you really think they want to be there? Unfortunately sometimes it is necessary. I think that George Bush is doing the best anyone could do in this position, I mean would you rather have John Kerry lay down and roll over and say "here we are come and get us", I think that, our servicemen and women deserve our respect as well as veterans in the past. I think that until you are in that situation its reall easy to be a rebelious hippie because its much easier to talk about peace than it is to risk your life for the men and women of your own country, especially for these immoral ingrates who do nothing but piss and moan about peace but are willing to do nothing about it but make picket signs and stand on street corners. Do something about it like our great brave serviceman. As far as president bush is concerned, I can't see a man on earth more qualified for the job, he has the fear of God and hes doing whats best for our country, and if anyone disagrees then I suggest you start looking for another country to move to, because you dont deserve to live in the greatest country on earth.
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13. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I agree!
It is obvious that war is an unfortunate necessity and there is loss for all sides involved, but it was Thomas Jefferson who said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". And I applaud George W. Bush for believing and loving this country so much to follow in the footsteps of our forefathers even in the face of adversity.
I think that Dan should fall to his knees before the flag that he seems to despise so much because it allows him to voice his hateful opinions and beliefs. I think that he would change his tune if he were placed in a country where freedom of speech and religion are not a right that he seems to take for granted. His ideas for this society are far-fetched and definately indicative of a CHILD. I think it is time for Dan to open his eyes and get a look at the real world. This country and these freedoms we have were obtained through war. He talks about how bad things are in this country the beautiful thing is that he is more than welcome to LEAVE! No one is forcing him to stay here. I am sure this great country of ours would be better off with him elsewhere!
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23. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Ah, America love it or leave it -- how original.

George W. Bush didn't love this country enough, following your logic, to serve in Vietnam, unlike John Kerry, who put his life on the line for it.

I work for peace, and I take offense at the idea of working for it is childish. I do things like lobby Congress to stop research on a new generation of nuclear weapons. I talk to people in educational forums about what alternatives to war are (stronger emphasis on diplomacy, enforcing international human rights law, curbing arms sales to dictators, et al). I also lobby on spending less on the Pentagon and more on schools and healthcare. And, yes, I sometimes attend demonstrations.

I've learned the most from people like Mina's grandparents, who are in their 70's and 80's (hardly children) and share that same passion for making things better. You can love your country (and there's much I do appreciate) by wanting to help make it better.

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14. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
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I Agree. I usually don't like one of the wives but this time i really didnt like one of the wives kids. I could not believe how disrespectful Dan was to everyone. He seemed so opinionated and just like he didn't give a care about anything. He really should put peoples feelings into consideraton before speaking. I could not believe how angery he was and how much disrespect he has. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but he could have given his opinion with a little more sensativity instead of just saying it in such a mean and rude way. He needs to get some kind of discipline soon before it is too late before he goes out on his own and says something to the wrong person. I also thnk that he needs to live in someone elses shoes for a year or two to know how good he realy has it.

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15. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
As far as president bush is concerned, I can't see a man on earth more qualified for the job, he has the fear of God and hes doing whats best for our country, and if anyone disagrees then I suggest you start looking for another country to move to, because you dont deserve to live in the greatest country on earth.

WOW! Could YOU be any more judgemental?

There are plenty of people qualified to be President. I am not so sure that W has done what is best for this country. You think he has...I think he hasn't! That doesn't make you right no matter how you say it! Different opinions are what makes us unique.

The mindset that you have to W's approach is what makes me want to throw my hands up and scream. W's ideas and anyone that agrees with him doesn't make it the BEST approach.

To tell someone to leave this country because they disagree with W's approach has to be one of the most childish reactions I have ever heard!

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16. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Ditto to what Vols said. I hate to interrupt the "I Love Bush" fest, but the guy is a boob and I'll stand by that statement(Hey, where the hell are those weapons, people???? Did you forget about that? I didn't!)

But anywho, I do agree that Dan was a total idiot. I don't like W, but this little punk teen made me want to. If there's anything I dislike more than redneck, flag-humping, gun carrying idiots it would have to be flower power, dim-witted, sign-carrying hippies.

But I found the show to be hilarious, as always. It's just a reminder that the Rush Limbaughs AND the Ted Kennedys of the world should be pimp slapped.

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17. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I agree Bacon! I don't like the W lovefest either and I can't stand the peeps like the teen that knows everything. The thing we should remember is that this show puts extremes together...there are some us out there that are somewhere in between!

BTW...I also agree with you that W is a boob (double D if you ask me )

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40. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Volsfan, I have to agree with you, again. Every message board I visit, you are on it & you are right on. I love My Country & our Flag & I believe in God, but I DON'T love or believe in George W. Bush. He's got a lot of people fooled, but not me. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. People think he's, so, religious 'cause he says so, & he goes to church on Sundays. Satan visits church, also. He's there trying to sway peoples minds. I don't believe a thing that comes out of George W. mouth. Dan is a very disrespectful person & military mom is too rigid!
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22. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
all the Bush lovin I just threw up my lunch

Dan is a very intelligent young man he just does not know how to get his point accross in an effective way he also needs to learn some respect but all in all he was much more informed than the Bushies
Question Authority now that's patriotic!

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42. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I agree with every word krislavonne wrote on the 3/2 episode of Wife Swap. I can't imagine any parent being proud of a teenager like the one we viewed. There are no words for the horror I felt hearing how he feels about his country. Maybe he needs to live in another country for awhile.
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19. "This episode?"
Made me think of OT for some reason.

While I don't really side with either family, I can't get over the behavior of Dan. Very sad. You can certainly have your opinions but, at the same time, be respectful and polite to people with opposing views. Obviously his parents failed to teach him that lesson.


Maybe Dan should visit OT and see how it can be done.

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20. "RE: This episode?"
I think the parents realized they had failed with Dan and respecting others. The sad part is...I think it is too late for Dan!
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21. "RE: This episode?"
Made me think of OT for some reason

OMH-you're right!


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24. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Well that was another interesting episode. And Dan was the least liked one on the show rather than one of the parents.

He has every right to hate the leader (Bush). But if you hate your country you should move.

Dan is going to end up in big trouble if he doesn't change. He is going to go out in the world with that attitude? He has no respect for any authority. And I blame the parents. Now the father feels it's too late and he is just waiting for Dan to move out. That isn't exactly successful parenting.

And when the one mom said that women are under the hand of the man because of Eve, etc. Well she lost me then. She really believed she was suppose to be her hubby's servant and he was in charge?

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25. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Dan really creeped me out. Wonder if his hero/mentor is Ira Einhorn? I'm still wondering about the 2nd kid who said nothing.
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26. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I loved the show. It definitely showed the contrast between the two families.

Dan was definitely abrasive in his communication, although I don't agree with everything he said, much of what he had to say was intelligent. He does need to mellow out and learn to take the time to listen. Although I would gladly be locked in a stuck elevator with Dan than any of the other characters, at least I would be guarenteed of a lively and intelligent conversation.

I've noticed several posters criticizing the parents of Dan. However, it's my belief the real family that needs some immediate help are the conservative family.

The conservative mother didn't allow for much discussion, she was very similar to Dan in the way she communicated, basically yelling not taking the time to listen. It was her way or the highway. I thought I had accidentally switched the channel to TV Land, when she came out with that backwards totally idiotic comment about being under the heel of the man of the house. Even though in reality, everybody in that particular household was under her heel. Perhaps she has problems with relationships, she had one child from a previous relationship that apparently didn't work out. The military mode seems to be the only way she knows how to operate and cope, even in her own house. However, this style seems to show some serious problems, the husband was pulling away from her and the kids didn't receive the attention they needed. They certainly had nicely lined up shoes and immaculate made beds, but obviously that home was lacking in real interaction between the parents and the children. Even she was scared that he might leave her if she didn't maintain the house and cook and clean at all times. How very sad and insecure.
The person who actually made the most impact was the very liberal mom. I was amazed that in a short time she could take a structured family and get them to lighten up and have fun. The relationship between the father and his children seemed to have come alive.

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27. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I agree that the conservative mom needed to lighten up a bit and that she ran her house like a drill sergeant runs his unit. I mean, it's a home not an army base!

On the other hand, I totally disagree that Dan was intelligent. I thought his mind worked like a spoiled brats would. It's completely moronic to think that a NO War policy makes any sense. I'm all for trying to keep the peace amongst countries and talking out differences. But if there was no military, which it seems that's what Dan and his hippie family wanted, than this country would get taken over in a heartbeat. It's just foolish to think that violence is never a necessity. Believe it or not, violence does solve problems sometimes...like it or not. Plus, I always get annoyed when teens who have no jobs, pay no taxes, and sit on their a$$es all day start talking to adults as if they have all the answers to life's problems. Just makes me want to slap em, to be honest. And I'm a person who voted for Kerry, too.

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28. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I agree with bacon on this one. Dan needs just as much help as the conservative mom...if not more!

Dan isn't remotely intelligent. Dan has no respect for others and thinks no one knows anything but himself. Sad...so very very sad!

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LAST EDITED ON 03-05-05 AT 10:23 PM (EST)

"Dan needs just as much help as the conservative mom"?

And I couldn't disagree with you more. Ok, so maybe Dan's approach was a little on the verge of confrontational, and I'dl be the first to admit that he came on a wee bit too strong, but I couldn't applaud his parents more for raising such a confidant, independent minded, verbally assertive and morally justified son. Come on, give the kid a little bit of credit here.

Since when did questioning authority become a bad thing? Tell me, I'd really like to know. Was Hitler's rise to power and the systematic death of millions not a direct result of the world's indifference (aka, failure to confront an authoritative figure before it was too late)? It's strange to me how so many of us can be so quick to dismiss the argument of an “informed youth” based on the same sort of old fashioned riff-raff that denied women the right to vote and enslaved the black man. I can already tell you that my grandparents would have been outraged by Dan's behavior while I, on the other hand, am saddened by the blind conformity with which the army wife has so dedicatedly surrendered her life.

This is not an issue of whether or not we support the troops; of course any rightfully minded person can have nothing but the deepest gratitude and the untmost respect for any person risking their "everything" for our "something". What we cannot EVER fail to question, however, is the deciding factor in determining whether or not the "something" is worth risking "everything" for.

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30. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I have no problem with questioning authority. Dan has no respect for others! That's a problem. Also, if Dan thinks that we should disarm and have NO military...that is crazy at best!

Those are the two problems I have with Dan!

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31. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
So true. Who is going to get your "message of peace" when you are yelling and spitting all over them espousing it? I'm not sure Dan was actually intelligent, he was trying too hard to ACT like he was. He actually reminded me of a more violent, loud, abusive version of the mind control Charles Manson barefoot guy "gobbildy gook, gobbildy gook, great cosmos, gobbildy gook"....Dan "gobbildy gook, gobbildy gook, senseless gov't pigs, gobbildy gook". People will be intimidated by Dan, but probably no one with any real intelligence will be influenced by him.
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32. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
>So true. Who is going
>to get your "message of
>peace" when you are yelling
>and spitting all over them
>espousing it? I'm not
>sure Dan was actually intelligent,
>he was trying too hard
>to ACT like he was.
> He actually reminded me
>of a more violent, loud,
>abusive version of the mind
>control Charles Manson barefoot guy
>"gobbildy gook, gobbildy gook, great
>cosmos, gobbildy gook"....Dan "gobbildy gook,
>gobbildy gook, senseless gov't pigs,
>gobbildy gook". People will be
>intimidated by Dan, but probably
>no one with any real
>intelligence will be influenced by
>him.


If you really listened in between Dan's spitting, he had some valid points. Such as the 15 of the 19 airplane hi-jackers came from Saudia Arabia, so the U.S. ends up invading Iraq. And he stated he felt he had to shout because he didn't think she was listening. Dan was 17 a teenager, Cheri was 30 or 31. She was basically shouting as well atDan and not listening. I think it would have been more productive for Cheri to have used a more constructive dialogue and conversation. For example, when Dan said, "Jesus was just a carpenter who talked a lot. I would have said directly back to Dan, then if Jesus was only a capenter, then why are we talking about him 2,000 years later. I don't know of too many other capenters that make that much impact, unless of course there is something more. I think most people really disliked Dan because of his obnoxiousness behavior and also really because of his personal views. People, especially in discussion groups hated his views about war and his proclaimed hate for the U.S. For me, Cheri lost all of my respect when she said a woman's place was at the heel of a man. Since when should women be compared on the same level to cigarette butts?! That type of thinking (maybe 50 to 60 years ago) got many women battered or killed in bad marriages and relationships. That is by far the stupidist thing said in the show...and it was said by a so-called adult! She by far trumps Dan as far as stupidity!

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34. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
"I think most people really disliked Dan because of his obnoxiousness behavior "

Add the bad personal hygiene that was mentioned and I see that as 2 valid reasons to care less what he had to say. Which was my point. Presentation can go a long way towards getting people to listen to your views and think about your views and possibly start to relate to and utilize your views in their own lives. No one's ideas were ever changed by a bully who smells bad. Trust me.

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33. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
LAST EDITED ON 03-06-05 AT 01:25 PM (EST)

If anyone is interested, the family from MN has a website. There is more explaination about their views and their lives. And there is a section on more of the background of their experience with Wife Swap. It's actually a nice site, and provides a much better glimpse into who these people are. The website is www.leirerwood.com

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35. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
this is dan parkinson, and i was on the leierwood patrick episode. first off, i am NOT a pacifist. i am not anti military. i am not a quaker. second, the show was edited to be more confrontational. for example, the footage of me supposedly playing the drums after the religion argument was actually footage from the day before, i just don't happen to change clothes every day. and lastly, if you think i'm a pseudo-intellectual dumb teenager, then give an example. don't just sit there and say i don't know what i'm talking about, PROVE IT! thank you for your time.
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36. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Sorry, yawn, your 15 minutes are up.
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39. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Don't you have questions for him (if this is truly Dan)? We get on here and bash these peeps. If and when we get them on the board we should ask questions to try and understand them or at least their point of view. Just because we disagree with them doesn't make us right and them wrong!
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64. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
>Don't you have questions for him
>(if this is truly Dan)?
>We get on here and
>bash these peeps. If and
>when we get them on
>the board we should ask
>questions to try and understand
>them or at least their
>point of view. Just because
>we disagree with them doesn't
>make us right and them
>wrong!

I can confirm this is Dan. You see, if you go to the Leierwood website, then Email Dan, he shall reply. And in his reply, he states his last name, Parkinson. So, just email him, ask him if he was on this fourm or what his last name was, then get a response.

Social Democracy!

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37. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
>this is dan parkinson, and i
>was on the leierwood patrick
>episode. first off, i am
>NOT a pacifist. i am
>not anti military. i am
>not a quaker. second, the
>show was edited to be
>more confrontational. for example, the
>footage of me supposedly playing
>the drums after the religion
>argument was actually footage from
>the day before, i just
>don't happen to change clothes
>every day. and lastly, if
>you think i'm a pseudo-intellectual
>dumb teenager, then give an
>example. don't just sit there
>and say i don't know
>what i'm talking about, PROVE
>IT! thank you for your
>time.

Dan, you are absolutely right, the show was edited to be controversial. It's basically a manipulation of the participants and viewers by showing the extremes. You have a right to your opinions and you should know, that it's very easy for people to take pot shots at you with negative comments while they are sitting safely on their butts behind their computers. Especially if they don't agree with your politics. If a producer and show staff were filming my life and others on this discussion board, we could all look pretty bad, including I imagine, Ms. Trudy. Or it could be far worse, boring entertainment. Good luck with your life!


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38. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-05 AT 08:31 AM (EST)

Welcome Zayd! As you can see above some people have already stated some things that we find suspect. You stated that America shouldn't have a military. Do you believe this? If not, why did you say it on the show and/or how did they get the footage if you didn't mean it?

Also, you were very disrespectful during the show. Why the rage?

As someone mentioned earlier...if you think Jesus was just a carpenter that talked a lot, why are we still talking about him 2000 years later?

Again WELCOME!

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41. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
this is dan again. a few things. one, i'm not looking for 15 minutes of fame. if i had a choice i never would've done the show, simply because it helped make ABC more money. second, i don't believe th U.S. should have no military, i think it shouldn't exist. amoung many things, i think the U.S. should've lost the "revolutionary" war (although i had no love for the british pig dogs). second, the reason we still talk about the old carpenter is because some realised they could profit by tricking the masses. it's also the topic of the day because it's so ingrained in the mainstream culture. HOWEVER, i DO NOT believe in the illegalization of the church. i don't wish to destroy all religion. it is something you can't just get people to give up, so i instead try to keep it from dictating everyones lies. if you have christian principles that don't involve killing someone over adultery, great. but if you use those principles to control others, that i have a problem with.
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43. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
i don't believe th U.S. should have no military, i think it shouldn't exist.

This statement confuses me but I think you are saying we shouldn't have a military. If that is the case, how the world do you think the United States would defend themselves from the idiots around the world that want to see the downfall of this country? After 9/11, I think it is obvious that there are people all around the world that don't like us.

so i instead try to keep it from dictating everyones lies.

Just because you think it is lies doesn't make it so nor does it make the people that believe any more wrong. This is the problem I have with the approach many people take. Many Christians have the idea that they are completely right and that their way is the only way. You too have the same mindset. In order to make any headway and understanding you have to be willing to listen and try to understand the other way of thinking.

if you have christian principles that don't involve killing someone over adultery, great.

I don't think many Christian beliefs today involve killing someone over adultery...at least not the churches I have attended.

One thing I wish you would address is your non-respect of the Christian woman. Have you not been taught to respect others and their beliefs?

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44. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
first, it's dictating LIVES, not lies. i can't type worth crap. second, i believe the U.S. shouldn't exist. it needs to be dismantled and broken up. it's proven time and time again that we can't have an egalitarian society in a large country. you want to talk about respect? i like sheri, i still talk to her. but she gives me less respect than i give her. when you cast aside every point of view or argument a person does as teenage rebellion, thats verbal sabotage. now i'm used to that, but that is by far more disrespectful than any dissecting of political views or outright partisan arguement. i respect sheri immensly, she works herself to death, however unfair it is. it isn't disrespecting a person when you disrespect there political/religous beliefs.
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45. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Dan you stated "second, i believe the U.S. shouldn't exist. it needs to be dismantled and broken up"

Well Dan, maybe you should move to another country if you hate this one so much. If the U.S. didn't exist, where exactly would people like you live?

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46. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I don't think religion dictates lives. I think religion can give guidelines for people to live by. It is the people in religion that take that approach not the religion itself (in my humble opinion).

Up above you stated that the U.S. shouldn't have won the revolutionary war. Well, the U.S. did win and we have to move on.

I understand your point about respect...thanks!

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47. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
im not talking about the north american continent not existing. and just because a government collapses, doesn't mean people suddenly have to move away. secondly, why would i leave? this country is on it's way to controlling the world. we've got most of central and south america enslaved, and we're getting more and more of asia under our control. running away from the problem is cowardly and accomplishes nothing. if one hates the american government, they shouldn't just leave, they need to fight to change it, or get rid of it. as far as the religion, i can't stop people from using it as guidlines, and i don't care too. but when 80% of the worlds controlling powers are based off religion, it tends to dictate your life.
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49. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
I wasn't the one that told you to leave this country.
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52. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Vols, you're kissing way too much butt here. And no, it isn't easy to sit here in front of this computer screen and make up these great, witty, intelligent posts of mine. I think it's easier to get on a reality show and make a boob of yourself, personally.

That said, I still believe Dan is full of bologna.

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67. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
dan i love you..
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48. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
http://www.#####.com/board/
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50. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Very informative post! THANKS!
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51. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
LOL, spammers never learn. Go away.
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53. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
bacon, your somewhat right. i didn't have to lift a finger to get on the show. but i didn't make a boob of myself, the producers did. either way, you still can't seem to get past the "i'm better than you" argument. i'm full of bologna? why exactly am i full of bologna? and my sympathies to your excrutiating job of message boarding.
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54. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Did you not read my previous posts? You're living under mommy and daddy, not paying any taxes, you don't have a job and you wallow in the freedoms that this country provides. Then you complain constantly about all of it.

But let me back up. I don't believe that you are actually the guy from the show. So complaining to you about what this Dan guy said or did makes little sense to me. That said, if you are by some chance the guy who was on the show I don't feel the least bit sorry for you getting taken out of context. If you felt that strongly about not being on television I'm sure there was a way you could have gotten out of it. Instead, you decided to be on the show and made yourself look bad by being obnoxious to the conservative wife that moved in.

And yes, I probably am better. I have a job that I go to, I pay for my own stuff, and mommy and daddy don't hand me everything. But even when they did take care of me I didn't call them by their first name and constantly complain about everything.

Now aren't you late for a peace rally?

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55. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
ah bacon, i already told you, i'm not i peacenik quaker, i don't go to peace rallies. and if you notice, in the section of the show where they have the "6 week later check up", there's not one shot of me with mina and greg. i do not live with mina and greg. and second of course i don't pay taxes. would you give your money to support a government that you want to see collapse. now if you don't belive it's me, ok. disregard everything.
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63. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Firstly, howcome you're second name is Parkinson. Secondly, what do you do all day, if you don't even work (you would have to pay taxes if you did work).
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56. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Have we gotten off the subject...I mean that when you are talking about "having a job, paying for your own stuff and mommy and daddy don't hand me everything" are you talking about Dan or George Bush? It took him a while to grow up and he became Prez of the U.S.A. Cut Dan some slack, if a Texan can goof off in college, have an alcoholic and drug problem and still become Prez then maybe Dan or others like him can to. You have a job...very very impressive...NOT!
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57. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
Hi Mina ;)
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58. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
>Hi Mina ;)

Hello Ms. Paranoid and Not Very Clever. It's actually just another poster that thinks your 15 minutes of fame, even if it is only on a discussion board, are up. Yawn!!!


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59. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
*Yawn* This conversation has become about as interesting as your theories on America. And Trudy is right, you do seem strangely protective of "dan". Myself, I'm done with this particular thread cause I find it silly to defend myself to a bunch of people who pimped themselves out to a television show. Whatever criticism you get on here you deserve whether you think it's fair or not. Stay off the reality shows if you don't like it.
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What kind of barriers you trying to break down here?
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65. "RE: Wife Swap 03/02"
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I just want to make a general comment. The part of the episode where Mrs. Patrick said "Drop and give me 20!" was hilarious! And Dan's reaction "You are going to have to drag me off this couch for me to give you push ups" was interesting. Personally, though, I wounder why the amerocentrist, militant, authoritarian (neoconservative, to shortern the term up) did not drag him off the couch. I guess shy just depends on pre-existent obediance, rather than affirmitativiness, to get what she wants.

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