>People are cast for these
>shows based on their demeanor,
>attitude and their overall ability
>to interact with people (good
>or bad). Certain people
>are picked to do nothing
>but cause controversy.

Oh and I almost forgot to mention that Erika should know this better than anyone because she helps cast for Survivor.

so just ignore it

Just turn off your TV. You would be an emotional mess if you were in that house. Some people take it better than other. Just different personalities. I think it is great TV. All reallity is the same. That is why it is reallity. I don't care how many cameras are around, eventually they catch you at your best. HA

Do I even need to explain.

Stop watching the show and go do back to 3rd grade and get an english lesson.

I can see where you are coming from Hammertimeman. It can be hard to separate feelings and emotions. The excuse of just a game is just that an excuse. The amount of emotional manipulation this season is much more than in season's past.

However, with that said, I think that Danielle's outburst was just that...emotional manipulation. I think she was trying to break Erika down with her "performance". I don't think she was drunk at all. I think she was acting. Doesn't seem to be part of her personality to get that hurt over something like this. If that is her strategy so be it..it's all good. If Erika hadn't have had Will in her ear it would have worked.

Also, I think that some of the manipulation by Will toward Janelle is not necessary and is beyond the scope of the game. I do feel sorry for her if it turns out that Dr. Will is only pretending.

Actually I agree/disagree with both sides of the spectrum.
This is BB7, not BB1. Everyone who signed up knows what they potentially are getting into. And since this is "all-stars" they have all experienced BB before.
But as LIVEURBESTLIFE stated, for a HG to use "playing the game" as an excuse is just that. And a lame excuse no less. Call it a game show if you must, but the "reality" in Reality Show is sooner or later a HGs true colors will come out...and almost all the time it will be when the chips are down. Sure there may be a few intervals during their house stay when they can wear a false mask and be something they're not; but I don't care if you are the world's greatest actor/actress with a closet full of Academy Awards, you're not going to be able to pull it off 24 hours a day for as long as 90 days! It ain't happening.

So you can feel bad that there are nasty, deceitful and manipulative scoundrols that exist in our society, but please don't feel sorry for these particpants who are in the House under their own free will.

PS: Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings...but Danielle was drunk. Not uncontrollably sloppy drunk where she couldn't stand on her own two feet or put two coherent words together. But she was drunk.

Whether she was drunk or not is beside the point. I do think she was acting. She has pretended to be drunk before in the house.
So I know Dani can pretend to be drunk. The HG even commented on how little alcohol BB gave them that night.

But back to the main topic of the post, I actually agree with what you said. People can not hide their true selves for very long. But the negative parts of the HG's personalities are magnified 100 times because of the nature of the game. Plus, we only get to see them interact with other gamers. We don't get a balanced view of who they really are in the real world.

Obviously, they do things in the game that are hurtful, mean-spirited, and just plain wrong, but they all willingly and knowingly signed up for it. So you are right again nobody should feel sorry for them.

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By saying its just a game are people saying its not real? There is nothing staged or fake about this show. Competition for hoh,real,pov,real,backstabbing,real,lying,real,betrayal,real. People are "equally" hurt on this show as they would be if they were not and this stuff still happened. Thus making the "its just a game" statement pointless. And you guys are compairing it to just another game show? That's funny I have never seen any backstabbing, lying, or betraying on wheel of fortune or jeopardy.
You people are so silly.

I don't think that the emotional manipulation on BB All Stars is any different from past seasons. Drew manipulated Diane and rode her coattails all the way to the final 2. Diane was very hurt when she was evicted by the person she trusted the most. That's the price you pay when you trust people in a game where manipulation and backstabbing are winning strategies. Maggie did it as well last year by intimidating all of her sheep into sticking to their alliance or they would lose the jury votes. It worked. There were fleeting instances when it seemed like the Fiendship would turn against itself, but Maggot was very skillful at putting out the fires and isolating her minions from the influence of the Sovereigns. And, that's just two seasons. Manipulation has always been a essential part of BB and someone always gets their feelings hurt. It's the nature of the game.

I just said it was more of it. I didn't say it never existed.

That's my whole point. I don't think it's more this season than any of the others. It's the same amount, just portrayed differently.

thanks, danielle is very hurt

Hurt? Doubt it. Upset that she's getting played right out the door? Yes.

It's a game!

Hurt

The woman was responsible for creating "The Legion of Doom". Was that to spread goodwill in the house? She plotted against and hurt people herself. Now she's hurt simply because she didn't inflict the last pain. I say she deserved it and the way it was done was mischievous brilliance!

The problem with players is that they forget they have to play against even their friends. Then they get hurt because their friends knew how to play a better game. The problem with viewers is they love some and hate others. I liked Danielle because she was an active, determined player. She had a gameplan that was nice to watch. It was even better to see that someone else had a superior gameplan to beat hers.

It isn't real life and the best players do not try to hide who they are 24/7. They simply follow a gameplan that fits the rules of engagement.

I really don't see Dani's departure as her getting played. Erika is being manipulated by CT and doesn't even have the sense God gave her to know it. Erika thinks she is doing what is necessary when in actuality she isn't doing what's good for her she is doing what is good for Will. Erika is being played. Dani's eviction is a byproduct of that.

I think Dani would have behaved differently if CT or Janie had nominated her. She knows she can't trust them. But Erika looked her in her face and said you are safe. True people lie in the game but you have to trust someone at sometime. Erika could have easily put up CT. She had other choices for the block and strategically now is not the time to kick out your friends.

Erika is playing a very bad game. She doesn't even realize that if she were to go to F2 she wouldn't win against Janie, Will and probably not even against CG. And it would be a close vote between her and Boogie. She hasn't done jack in this game. I give CG more respect as a player than her because at least he has won a couple of comps and made some decisions on his own. She threw a comp to Dani so she wouldn't have to take the heat for noms.

I can't wait til she gets her comeupance. She is going to chit a brick when she finds out about the LOD, that CT is working with Jani and that CG is about to get his CT membership card for F3.

I agree with you that Erika is getting played by CT, but so did Danielle. CT have done absolutelly nothing to give Danielle a sense of security. CT threw two veto ceremonies to help out Janelle and Danielle still believe that Legion of Dumb was a done deal. Danielle got played because she trusted CT in targetting Janelle when in reality they were targetting James and lying to her about it.

CT also threw a couple of vetos Danielle's way -- remember the one with past hamsters? And I think there was something else, though my memory is failing me.

I know they did, but none of CT's actions in favor of Danielle (or any other houseguest) were a display of loyalty. It was always for their own benefit. My point is that CT has been playing everyone in that house, Danielle is no exception. Has she been suspcious of them? Absolutelly. But, she aligned with them anyway. Why would you put your gameplay in the hands of people that you know are liars and manipulators?

Danielle didn't trust CT. She knew the LOD was nonexistent. Sure she got played but she only got played because of Erika's stupidity not thru her own choices. Will knew that she was gunning for him. So he got rid of her before she could get rid of him.

I didn't say Danielle got played by Will but that she was Outplayed! The difference may be subtle but it is there. Danielle wanted to do the dirty work and eliminate all her threats, Will got someone else to do his. That the designated hitter happened to be Danielle's best friend shows the genius of the move.

Honestly, I don't think anyone really leaves this game feeling truly deeply hurt, at least they don't act it. I'm sure it may have hurt Danielle's feelings a little bit that Erika went against her but she got over it quick. I think it's more of a feeling of disappointment, which who can really blame? I agree Michel, Danielle was no saint herself, so she's in no better of a position to talk about betrayel.

You may wanna give Danielle more credit than that. As much as I believe that she played stupidly the past couple of weeks, I think Dani is smarter and more savvy than allowing herself to be hurt over a game. She might be a sore loser, but I don't think she's emotionally hurt by any of this. Being a player herself, I'm sure Dani understand the collateral damage in a game like Big Brother.

Yep. I'm with ya, Breezy. She got played like a fiddle. Like or hate the game, it's just that, a game.

Fembots by Tribe: L.O.J. One for all and all for Janelle