Didn't someone say there was a fake fly in the backyard ..uh ....Sanitary closet (Boogers Loooove shack)? That that was another clue?

I alos read on another site that there was a bell on the table.

Can anyone with feeds confirm this?

>I alos read on another site
>that there was a bell
>on the table.
>
>Can anyone with feeds confirm this?
>

sheep with a pink ribbon maybe a female sheep-ewe

fly maybe as in flying on an airplane

bell I think is for ringing to alert BB you know the abwswer...one must ring it

Ewe (You) are flying under the radar

or

Ewe (You) have flown under the radar

My guesses for now

I have questions about the coup d'etat. I thought Julie Chen said that this power would be up for grabs for the next three evictions. But also said that only the winner would know what the power was.

So can it be won 3 weeks straight? If so, wouldn't all the hamsters know what the power was after the first week? (Assuming any of them guess correctly this week). Or can it be won anytime between now and the next three weeks? And if so, are there different phrases for each week?

I am really thinking way too much about this! Somebody help me!

~vintage tribephyl~

I understood that the clues would all appear this week before Thursday...

The winner would find out 1) that they won & 2) WHAT they won on Thursday...

That this power could be used immediately before the live vote for 1 of the next 3 evictions.

(of course, it was Julie explaining things, so...)

I can't imagine Danielle is even close with her presumed DNA pick. The connection to the sheep/lamb/ewe is just so remote and off the wall. I don't know what the right answer is, but I do know that is not it. She might be trying to throw others off by having them think in what has to be a completely wrong direction.

The pink bow on the sheep strongly suggests "you (ewe)" is one of the words; probably the first word.

LAST EDITED ON 08-11-06 AT 05:42 PM (EST)

according to clubhouse Dani thinks she's won but doesn't know what she won. Her comment was (paraphrased) "I hope whatever I won helps me".

edited to add that what Julie said was something to the effect that the winner would be told they won and what they won on
Thursday. So it seems Dani is doing what her supposed guess says she should not do: DNA

doesn't know what she won

But we know (courtesy of CBS) that the winner is told what he/she won. So Dani is either lying about this or lying about winning.

I agree with the "ewe"...popped into my mind immediately.

But I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE making a guess after the first clue!!

Why on earth did Danielle do that?

Did she really think it was DNA, or was she saying that to try to throw the others off of "ewe"?

I hope she's lying about having guessed already...otherwise my opinion of her just went into the toilet.

>I agree with the "ewe"...popped into
>my mind immediately.
>
>But I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE making
>a guess after the first
>clue!!
>
>Why on earth did Danielle do
>that?
>
>Did she really think it was
>DNA, or was she saying
>that to try to throw
>the others off of "ewe"?
>
>
>I hope she's lying about having
>guessed already...otherwise my opinion of
>her just went into the
>toilet.

DNA was the name of season five:

DNA Season Five

Where like Nak she fins out Cowboy is actually her half brother
There were other relatives in the house also

>>DNA was the name of season five<<

I understand that -- but that is not a phrase common to Big Brother -- it was the tagline of one season.

Plus, past BB puzzles like this have had clues more like crossword puzzle things -- Big Apple...female sheep.

Not something that was a 'current event' years ago. (Dolly the cloned sheep.)

I think all of them that decided to guess after only one clue are morons.

>I can't imagine Danielle is even
>close with her presumed DNA
>pick. The connection to
>the sheep/lamb/ewe is just so
>remote and off the wall.
> I don't know what
>the right answer is, but
>I do know that is
>not it. She might
>be trying to throw others
>off by having them think
>in what has to be
>a completely wrong direction.
>
>The pink bow on the sheep
>strongly suggests "you (ewe)" is
>one of the words; probably
>the first word.

Dani uses the sheep for cloning

Fly for the movie in which DNA was used to exhange the fly and person to different spots only to ahve it end up with the body of the human and the ehad of the fly and vice versa.

The first thing that came to my mind was "A wolf in sheep's clothing"

But then all I heard was that it was a familar phrase. I missed the part about it being directly related to the game.

I think Danielle is onto something. Wasn't the first cloned animal a sheep? If so, Project DNA would be an excellent guess.

BTW, this is my first post so take it easy on me...LOL!

Dolly was the cloned sheep's name that made headlines.

Why I couldn't remember that five minutes ago when I posted the other message I'll never know!

I have no idea what it is, but I know what it should be..

Bend over, you're about to get #####.

Worst.Twist.Ever.

As always...truer words were never spoken. Thanks true.

Joining the "Worst.Twist.Ever." bandwagon.

According to the CBS website, the C d'E is as follows:

"Julie then announces a new twist that puts the game on a whole new level: the Coup d’Etat. Whoever wins this power will have the ability to overthrow the HoH and replace their nominations on the spot at any of the next three evictions. The Coup d’Etat has an added twist, though, as only the winning HouseGuest will know what they have won, and the power will remain secret until it is used. "

So, If Dani guessed right, she would have been told that she won, and what she won.

Last night Danielle and some others were questioning Janelle
about where she had been I couldn't hear but they said
they all heard her screaming, could she have won! I don't
know what room she had been in but Danielle was worried.

Anyone know?

Have they gotten the second clue yet?

LAST EDITED ON 08-11-06 AT 08:15 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 08-11-06 AT 08:15 PM (EST)

According to the CBS website, the C d'E is as follows:
"Julie then announces a new twist that puts the game on a whole new level: the Coup d’Etat. Whoever wins this power will have the ability to overthrow the HoH and replace their nominations on the spot at any of the next three evictions. The Coup d’Etat has an added twist, though, as only the winning HouseGuest will know what they have won, and the power will remain secret until it is used. "

So, If Dani guessed right, she would have been told that she won, and what she won.

So if the power is to remain secret, I don't understand how you think the HG will know "what she won". CBS has only said the HG would know that they had one, but what it is remains a secret until it is used.

LAST EDITED ON 08-11-06 AT 08:37 PM (EST)

>next three evictions. The Coup d’Etat has an added twist,
>though, as only the winning HouseGuest will know what they
>have won, and the power will remain secret until it
>is used. "
>
>So, If Dani guessed right, she would have been told that
>she won, and what she won.
>
>So if the power is to remain secret, I don't understand
>how you think the HG will know "what she won".
>CBS has only said the HG would know that they
>had one, but what it is remains a secret until
>it is used.

Did you read the piece that you bolded before you posted?

"as only the winning HouseGuest will know what they have won"

It does not say as only the winning HouseGuest will know that they have won. It says that the winning HouseGuest will know what they have won.

But no one else knows until it is used.

RIF: Reading Is Fundamental.

CBS even said the HG who wins WILL NOT know what it is until Thursday night. The HG who wins will only know that they won.

"Reading is Fundamental", but so are the facts.

LAST EDITED ON 08-11-06 AT 09:38 PM (EST)

Edited to remove what was essentially a repeat of Ayak's message. I'm not in a piling-on mood tonite. (smiley face)

Dont you think that Dani would want her people to THINk that she had won it so that they will stop trying to guess leaving the window open for her to figure it out w/o her minions trying to win it over her. If someone thinks that their alliance member has it they might not try to guess it.

What are the clues other than the sheep?

Supposedly a fly that they've named Josh, and place in the bathroom as they think Howie and Janie will not see it there.

Did they really hide the clue from Janie and Howie?

Who actually did the hiding?

I guess that answers any questions we might have about playing with integrity and honesty, huh?


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Dani certainly would (or should) try and bluff winning if her guess isn't right.

But, they all get one and only one guess, and even if Dani (or any of the others) is/are bluffing, the others will surely still take their swings. It would take terrific acting to persuade the others to just to quit without futher effort. Not with the C d'E being as big a deal as it is. It's enough to save anyone from certain banishment, usable at anyone of the nest three evicitions.

It would take terrific acting to persuade the others to just to quit without futher effort.

Or a houseful of morons.

Which we have.

Not with the C d'E being as big a deal as it is. It's enough to save anyone from certain banishment, usable at anyone of the nest three evicitions.

But they don't know any of that.


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Hi, I think Dani got it right with the DNA "Do Not Assume". It had to be fairly tough or everyone would get it. Dolly was first cloned sheep, dealing with DNA, and "Do Not Assume" was the official description of one of the seasons. Also, the fly clue: "The Fly" was a movie starring Jeff Goldblum: he was a scientist and dealt with DNA and ended up making a superfly or he turned into a fly or something, anyway: it also deals with DNA.

Hi, I think Dani got it right with the DNA "Do Not Assume". It had to be fairly tough or everyone would get it.

Ummm... So Danielle obviously got it wrong, as if it were to be tough, she would need ALL the clues before a guess is made?!?!?!

Nah, not necessarily.

I don't think that she got it, though.


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So I wonder....if Dani has indeed won Cd'E and overthrows Janelle, can she:

1. Put Janelle up
2. If she can't put Janelle up but does overthrow her can Janelle then play in the next HOH? Leaving Dani vunerable again if Janelle were to win and Janie safe once more.

Will just said he was told in the DR that the Fly was NOT a clue...that doesn't do much for Dani's guess IF Will is telling the truth (BIG if).

Does anyone know how the winner of the coup is supposed to keep this a secrect for 3 weeks if they don't use it right away? What are the odds on that? What happens if they tell someone and are caught?

I don't think the fly is a clue either. The sheep was so obvious there was no way they could miss it and it was presented to all of the houseguests. I think all the clues will be presented this way so it is obvious to everyone that it is a clue and it can't be hidden.

LAST EDITED ON 08-11-06 AT 10:19 PM (EST)

Good questions, Ahtum..

Hmmmmm.... ramifications to consider.....

According to CBS, the winner of the C d'E

"...will have the ability to overthrow the HoH and replace their nominations on the spot at any of the next three evictions."

I would assume that the eviction vote would be held immediately thereafter.

I like this because the strategies, deals, and manipulations that led to the initial noms. would be rendered ineffective, secret alliances might be exposed in the so doing (possibly), and another layer of fustration would be added to an already tense situation. There should be some real stomping and raging in response.

If this is how it goes, then this round of noms/eviction will be made with only a few moments available for deals or manipulations.

What would Will be able to pull off under those circumstances? Will he prepare for this eventuality?

I'd like to see that happen once in a while, just for fun and to shake things up.

>So I wonder....if Dani has indeed
>won Cd'E and overthrows Janelle,
>can she:
>
>1. Put Janelle up
>2. If she can't put
>Janelle up but does overthrow
>her can Janelle then play
>in the next HOH?
>Leaving Dani vunerable again if
>Janelle were to win and
>Janie safe once more.

Yes, she can put up Jani since Jani would not be the HOH, Danielle would be.

The winner gets to overthrow the hoh (replace her) and replace the nominations she made.

We don't really know that the HOH can be put up in replacement of one of the noms.
They only said that the HOH noms can be overthrown and the holder of the Coup can replace the noms.

It wasn't made clear if the HOH can be one of those replacements.
I'm not sayng it can't be that way, just that it wasn't clear.
Winning HOH gives immunity from nomination as well as power to nominate. That the noms can be overthrown, doesn't mean the HOH can be nominated. That part hasn't been made clear.
In fact , alot hasn't been made clear about this "power".

I agree with those that say the power holder shouldn't use it unless they are on the block. The way I understand the Coup, the holder can use it for the next 3 evcitions. I'd hang on to it, unless I was nominated.

Buggy- I agree, not enough info.

Whether I used it or not would probably depend on the numbers. If I could get it to where my alliance had the greater numbers by using it I probably would, hoping to ensure more than just one week of safety. But, then that would probably come back to bite me on the butt.

If the fly is not a clue how and why did it get into the house? I dont understand how a fly can just appear conviniently on a week where clues to a phrase are supposed to be given to the housguests. Also why would they only tell Will the fly is not a clue?

I haven't seen a screen cap of the fly are we talking a giant fake fly or a real actual insect type fly?

How would a real fly get in? They open the door to go to the backyard which appears to be the real outside, not a enclosed sound studio (they use sunscreen and see airplanes with banners so it IMO is really outside), so a fly would get in that house the same way it gets in every other house in america. A giant fake fly would have been stuck in the house by the producers.

With Will it is hard to know if what he is saying they told him is real or not, but if the producers actually WANT the twist to occur they may tell one of the hamsters that happens to be in the DR when that it's a clue thing gets going in the house that they are going in the wrong direction because they do want at least one of the hamsters to get it right.

If it's a small plastic fly, it may be leftover set dressing from the graveyard or junkyard sets.

Clues in the past have been oversized & obvious (the big apple), so I doubt a small, fake fly would be a clue.

>We don't really know that the
>HOH can be put up
>in replacement of one of
>the noms.
>They only said that the HOH
>noms can be overthrown and
>the holder of the Coup
>can replace the noms.
>
>It wasn't made clear if the
>HOH can be one of
>those replacements.
>I'm not sayng it can't be
>that way, just that it
>wasn't clear.
>Winning HOH gives immunity from nomination
>as well as power to
>nominate. That the noms can
>be overthrown, doesn't mean the
>HOH can be nominated. That
>part hasn't been made clear.
>
>In fact , alot hasn't been
>made clear about this "power".
>
>
>I agree with those that say
>the power holder shouldn't use
>it unless they are on
>the block. The way I
>understand the Coup, the holder
>can use it for the
>next 3 evcitions. I'd hang
>on to it, unless I
>was nominated.

Definitions of overthrow on the Web:

An Overthrow or Coup is a term referring to a change in government, whereby a leader or party is forced from power, often through the use of force. Famous overthrows have included the coup in the Soviet Union in the early 1990's, or of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow

Since Julie said the following:

"...will have the ability to overthrow the HoH and replace their nominations on the spot at any of the next three evictions."

I will stand by what I said that the winner will be able to overthrow (replace the HOH.

And it makes sense because that is what a coup is: overtaking the leaders of said government.

In this case the government is the house and the leader is, for now, Jani.

Buggy has explained really well how ambiguous the rules of this twist are for now.

Veto winner can already negate one nom, but can't choose the new noms. If CDE winner can negate both noms and choose the new ones, that alone is huge, even without becoming HOH.

Overthrow coes sound like replacing HOH and becoming HOH, but as Buggy says that is simply not clarified. If you think about it, it is in most cases BETTER to have the power to replace noms and not become HOH.

Why? Because then right after the eviction the CDE player would be an outgoing HOH and not eligible to play the next week. Talk about rebound possibilities, whoever played would need the support of the house to make it any further.

Better to overthrow the noms and still have the right to play for a full week of HOH -- unless the only target you're interested in happens to be HOH the week you need to play the CDE.

As I said on last night's ECST, I think the secret phrase is "you (ewe) are safe". They could put a big "R" in the house followed by a safe. "you are the new head of household" or "you are evicted" would be tough to come up with clues for.

LAST EDITED ON 08-12-06 AT 10:03 AM (EST)

But what about this fly clue that's being discussed? Could it be "ewe are a fly on the wall"? or "Ewe are flying under the radar"?